fringedmyotis: rynthetyn: It's not the wrong side of history, it's standing up for truth and morality and protecting the traditional family values that made this country great.

So bigotry and ignorance are what made this country great? I did not know that...

Well, I'm proud to be an American,
where at least I know you're twee.

Walker: "I'm allowed to choke you. I'm a cop. And there's not a GOT DAMN thing you can do about it"
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He's wearing an Evangelion t-shirt. He deserved it.
/anime nerd

The Why Not Guy: halfof33: Yeah, not so much.

So you're saying he didn't spearhead the effort to make homosexuality punishable by death in Uganda? Wow, you're determined to defend this guy.

He's pretty clearly saying "HEY EVERYONE LOOK OVER HERE".

jpo2269: The Why Not Guy Smartest
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jpo2269: Is there a recording? Until said time, I am calling bull sh1at

Your defense of the Tea Party is duly noted.

Your embrace of McCarthyism is also duly noted..

I don't get it. Are you suggesting that the Why Not Guy is a rabid anti-communist crusader because he suggested you are with the Tea Party? Or have I missed something? Because that would not make any sense at all.

Three Crooked Squirrels: BKITU: violentsalvation: By calling gay folks "f*ggots" you have ensured that I will not listen to what you have to say. So yes, person by person, one pair of ears at a time, you are silencing yourself.

Mark Knopfler inconsolable.

Just heard that song yesterday. Was going to make this joke.

/:(

What's that?
Hawaiian noises?
Bangin' on the bongos like a chimpanzee.

//apparently calling people porch monkeys

Fnck the GOP.

culebra: [farm3.static.flickr.com image 500x375]

Non-story. Overzealous gourmand.

I got written up at work once for making jokes about British cuisine when our London office was visiting. The best part was all I did was name off a few of the better named ones. Yes, spotted dick was on that list. This one is now on the list. It's a miracle I still have a job because I never seem to learn my lesson.

kg2095: jpo2269: The Why Not Guy Smartest
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2012-04-16 11:46:35 PM


jpo2269: Is there a recording? Until said time, I am calling bull sh1at

Your defense of the Tea Party is duly noted.

Your embrace of McCarthyism is also duly noted..

I don't get it. Are you suggesting that the Why Not Guy is a rabid anti-communist crusader because he suggested you are with the Tea Party? Or have I missed something? Because that would not make any sense at all.

It's the old "your intolerance of my intolerance is the real offense" ploy.

jpo2269: The Why Not Guy Smartest
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jpo2269: Is there a recording? Until said time, I am calling bull sh1at

Your defense of the Tea Party is duly noted.

Your embrace of McCarthyism is also duly noted..



/While you're at it, do my shirt, you silly biatch.

>Chimperror2: firefly212: Chimperror2: The Why Not Guy: halfof33: Or just gonna keep posting straw men, which would be appropriate for this thread.

It's not a straw man. He really did spearhead the effort to make homosexuality a capital crime in Uganda. That's the guy you're defending.

Ummm no. He didn't. That's a slur. Learn what he advocated and you will see that the Ugandans added the death penalty without him. They are kinda dickish that way. Lively opposes all legislation that calls for the death penalty for being gay.

See, that's the thing... he didn't stop advocating it after they added the death penalty... he says "gosh, I wouldn't advocate the death penalty, I just wanted them to rot in jails" but he didn't stop championing the legislation as it was pending, even after the death penalty was added. He was so opposed to it that he continued to push for it.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=121605529

NPR interview while legislation was pending says differently. You can rewrite history but it doesn't make it so.

/BTW, read all the way to bottom where he calls you a racist.

The problem with your link was that I clicked it. The interview doesn't say differently, Lively says differently... the problem with what Lively says is that it is not consistent with the facts. Your "evidence" of Lively's uninvolvement is an interview in which he claims so. The problem is, Lively wasn't just there for the conference and "disappointed that the legislation was so harsh" (his words, not mine), he returned not once, not twice, not even three times, but four times in the following two months to advocate for the bill. The bigger problem for his description of how the conference was a total side-swipe and he was there to talk about helping gay people be straight is that some idiot recorded the seminars. (new window) Now I know, your next line is going to be about how he didn't really mean all that hateful crap he was spewing, he was just playing to the audience... I don't give a shiat, he gave his time, and his money, to further the passage of a bill calling for the murder of homosexuals. You can juggle all you f$#king want, but the guy goes around the country spewing his venomous and vitriolic evil in the name of Christ, so I'm just going to have to take him at his word that he believes "gays are an abomination and an affront to the Lord and Leviticus tells us how to deal with them." You can read that into bunnies and sunshine for all I care, but the TEA party could just as easily substitute a klansman for all I care... this idiot, and those who honor him, all want tyranny and death over those they hate, in the name of Jesus (peace be upon him).

rewind2846: Walker: "I'm allowed to choke you. I'm a cop. And there's not a GOT DAMN thing you can do about it"
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He's wearing an Evangelion t-shirt. He deserved it.
/anime nerd

They carry "don't tread on me" flags while advocating for theocratic murder... they should be violently sodomized with those things, if only for the irony.

RanDomino: How is the real story here not that there's another picture of a cop assaulting someone?

Because the one thing the TEA party rallies and OWS things taught us was that the cops will always try to physically bully people they think are weaker than them. More pink pistols need to show up at these things while open carrying... that "dont tread on me" crap works just as well for us as anyone.

RanDomino: How is the real story here not that there's another picture of a cop assaulting someone?

Because horrible police brutality isn't newsworthy anymore.

MaudlinMutantMollusk: AverageAmericanGuy: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 360x360]

An abomination.

Too bassoon?

Tuba soon?

LazarusLong42: AverageAmericanGuy: [bassoon jpg]

An abomination.

That's almost certainly more obscure than it ought to be. Very well done!

Guessing at the average intelligence and social class of the people who post on Fark, I'd say the percentage of people who recognize it is in the single digits.

rynthetyn: firefly212: RanDomino: How is the real story here not that there's another picture of a cop assaulting someone?

Because the one thing the TEA party rallies and OWS things taught us was that the cops will always try to physically bully people they think are weaker than them. More pink pistols need to show up at these things while open carrying... that "dont tread on me" crap works just as well for us as anyone.

I kind of like that idea. Don't let the hard right wingnuts be the only ones taking advantage of the Second Amendment.

I'm sad that trollolols left... I was sure looking forward to posting http://www.defendthefamily.com/pfrc/archives.php?id=2345952 Lively bragging about the passage of the Uganda murder bill as "our campaign was like a nuclear bomb against the "gay" agenda in Uganda. I pray that this, and the predictions, are true." I get the sense though that their heart really wasn't in trolling today, I mean defending him is like saying "but what about all the good things Hitler did?"

No, what he meant was 'surveyor's marks'

That Tea Party, they sure are misunderstood. And by misunderstood, I mean clearly understood as jackasses.

AverageAmericanGuy: LazarusLong42: AverageAmericanGuy: [bassoon jpg]

An abomination.

That's almost certainly more obscure than it ought to be. Very well done!

Guessing at the average intelligence and social class of the people who post on Fark, I'd say the percentage of people who recognize it is in the single digits.

Yes, but those that think they should be silenced are classic. al.

dahmers love zombie: Honestly, I thought the Tea Party was seriously into bundles of burning sticks. Oh, wait...they just like the bundles of sticks that aren't burning.

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rynthetyn: firefly212: rynthetyn: firefly212: RanDomino: How is the real story here not that there's another picture of a cop assaulting someone?

Because the one thing the TEA party rallies and OWS things taught us was that the cops will always try to physically bully people they think are weaker than them. More pink pistols need to show up at these things while open carrying... that "dont tread on me" crap works just as well for us as anyone.

I kind of like that idea. Don't let the hard right wingnuts be the only ones taking advantage of the Second Amendment.

I'm sad that trollolols left... I was sure looking forward to posting http://www.defendthefamily.com/pfrc/archives.php?id=2345952 Lively bragging about the passage of the Uganda murder bill as "our campaign was like a nuclear bomb against the "gay" agenda in Uganda. I pray that this, and the predictions, are true." I get the sense though that their heart really wasn't in trolling today, I mean defending him is like saying "but what about all the good things Hitler did?"

As indefensible as Scott Lively is, I have vague recollections of a bunch of the adults in the AFA circles I was around as a teenager passing around his Pink Swastika book as "proof" of how horrible the "gay agenda" really is. In retrospect, those people were incredibly batshiat, but it's crazy, at the time it didn't seem so strange because I just saw them as parents of friends and adults who my family knew from church.

It's weird looking back because that life seems so foreign to the life I live now that it's almost like I've lived two different lives. It makes telling who's a troll and who's serious difficult though, because that past life had people who were absolutely serious and saying things far more crazy than our little Scott Lively defending troll.

It's weird here, I live in Denver (relatively liberal) about thirty minutes north of the home of Focus on the Family... I've lived in NYC before, and I've lived in rural Oklahoma before. They tell me there's no hate like liberal hate, but from experience, I can't for the life of me remember liberals hanging nooses in front of the homes of conservatives they want to run out of town. I hear the FoF all the time, and I live in this enclave where people dismiss their idiocy out of hand, but I know that down in the Springs, they really do believe that, despite my boring job followed up by playing video games, that I am out to "recruit" their kids, destroy their marriages, and engage in intercourse with their pets... they are legitimately afraid of this thing that they think gays are... they're particularly afraid of bland, monogamous gays... we blend in too easily and they're convinced that one day I'm going to stop playing Civ or Arma just long enough to destroy all of society and force them to stop worshiping at their church. The crux of it is that it doesn't matter that the supposed "agenda" isn't true at all, they believe it with religious zeal, to the point that they dare not listen to the words of gays explaining that it isn't true because that just seems like putting poison in their mind. I mean, these people may even be well intentioned, but they're absolutely delusional... they think taxes are going up (for more than 95% of Americans, they are at historic lows), they think Obama has passed a raft of anti-gun legislation (the only legislation he signed allows people to carry firearms in national parks), they believe that a government so competent as to render the death penalty is too incompetent to help people pay for health insurance, they simultaneously cheer Romney demanding that mothers have the "dignity of work" and scream about a woman who criticized one who did not have that dignity... they are not logical, consistent, rational, or even grounded in reality... they are, by any rational metric, insane... and they vote.

CanisNoir: Put enough twigs and\or cigarettes in his mouth and he sure as shait *would* be silenced. As someone who normally supports the ideals behind the Tea Party, this kind of shait irritates the everloving bejeebus out of me. Not only is it small minded and stupid but it completely tarnishes the entirety of their platform.

You do not represent me stupid shait.

If we are to take them at their word, that it's all about taxes, then why do they advocate so many costly laws for social engineering? Is it somehow better to borrow money from China for imprisoning marijuana users and gays than it would be to use that money to pay for healthcare... I mean, for every time they advocate a cut in spending, they also demand either status quo or increases elsewhere... I understand the desire to maintain a military capable of defending the US, but would we really be in danger if we only accounted for half of global spending on military forces? It seems like every time we talk about cutting HUD or HHS, it gets carried along with a demand to have more government involvement in medical decisionmaking (but only in the way Jesus would want) or coughing up more money to bomb Iran (I'm not totally clear on what problem they think that would fix). The crux of my feelings towards the TEA party isn't just that taxes are at historic lows, but that they don't seem to be actually working to cut spending at all (a necessary component of reducing taxes). The more they cry about what the issues are about and how they aren't just a bigoted hate group, they don't address the issues, but do take the time to honor yet more bigots. If you're a conservative, in the Goldwater sense, or maybe even in the Reagan sense, I could kind of understand where you were coming from... but these people have no noble ideals, they have nothing but a thin veneer of ideals to feebly mask their hate and idiocy.

rynthetyn: We can't have that, can we?

Mods are asleep! Post some sinks!

Altair: This thread is now about Carl Winslow

This thread is now about The Winslow.

He's everywhere. All hail!

serial_crusher: If homosexuality and taxes don't have anything to do with each other

Are you saying if I go gay I don't have to pay taxes?

Could we make that happen? I think the mental dissidence might make teapartiers asplode.

So the Teatards like to pretend they are all about lower taxes, smaller government and fiscal conservatism but in reality they are the same old haters they've always been. Just look at the purity tests they administer. Anti-woman, anti-gay, anti-minority, anti-atheist, anti-Muslim, anti-science first and foremost. Making them sign onto pants-on-head retarded derp like the Norquist Pledge and derping about being "Taxed Enuff Already" is really an afterthought.

"Faggots" won't silence them?

Here's the thing about that. They are dead wrong.

These Teatards *will* eventually be silenced or at least driven back under the rocks they crawled out of by time, shame and moral evolution. Just like their dodo-esque ancestors, the anti-race mixing, anti-civil rights louts of bygone eras.

See also: The anti-suffragettes and the people who thought owning other people was a morally defensible position because it was mentioned in the bible.

They are the past and their end as a political force in American politics can not come too soon.

10 to 20 years from now you'll be hard pressed to find someone who'll admit to ever liking these guys.

In public anyways.

TsukasaK: rynthetyn: We can't have that, can we?

Mods are asleep! Post some sinks!

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While that's a cool ass sink, I can't help but wonder what it says about me that my first thought upon seeing that was, "Looks like a biatch to clean."

CanisNoir: Put enough twigs and\or cigarettes in his mouth and he sure as shait *would* be silenced. As someone who normally supports the ideals behind the Tea Party, this kind of shait irritates the everloving bejeebus out of me. Not only is it small minded and stupid but it completely tarnishes the entirety of their platform.

You do not represent me stupid shait.

Yes they do, sweetheart. You vote for them.

TsukasaK: rynthetyn: We can't have that, can we?

Mods are asleep! Post some sinks! Ponies!!



/Hot like a fresh muffin.

So, the Tea Party is literally celebrating the career of a man whose advocacy has not just led to legislation that would make homosexuality punishable by death in Uganda, but has resulted in the targeted violence and murder of Ugandan gay activists.

This is far beyond any kind of mainstream conservatism, considering Scott Lively makes the Westboro Baptist Church look charming by comparison. Scott Lively's entire career is based on stirring up hate against gay people, and he frames his activities as a war between "terrorist" gays and Christians, including writing a revisionist history that claimed that gays were responsible for the Holocaust and Hitler was gay (it's popular in Eastern Europe, where Lively is involved with groups stirring up hatred, inciting violence and legislating against gay people. Anti-gay legislation and activism has been on the rise in Eastern Europe, including a recent law in St. Petersburg which bans the promotion of homosexuality. The first two people arrested under that law committed the crime of holding a sign that said "Homosexuality is normal".) This is what the SPLC has to say about Scott Lively's hate group:

"Abiding Truth Ministries serves mainly as a launching pad for an international anti-gay campaign. Its founder, Scott Lively, is also responsible for a book, widely cited by gay-bashers, accusing homosexuals of running the Nazi Party.

Lively first emerged as an anti-gay activist when he became communications director for the Oregon Citizens Alliance, which was backing that state's notorious Measure 9 vote in 1992. The measure, which failed, would have added language to the state constitution listing homosexuality, along with pedophilia and masochism, as "abnormal behavior." Lively later served as California director of the American Family Association, another particularly hard-line anti-gay group (see below).

Lively is best known for co-authoring, with Kevin Abrams, The Pink Swastika: Homosexuality in the Nazi Party. The book makes a series of claims that virtually no serious historian agrees with: that Hitler was gay, that "the Nazi Party was entirely controlled by militaristic homosexuals," and that gays were especially selected for the SS because of their innate brutality. The claims are entirely false; in fact, the Nazis murdered significant numbers of gays and made homosexuality a death penalty offense in 1942. In the foreword, Abrams adds that homosexuality is "primarily a predatory addiction striving to take the weak and unsuspecting down with it. ... They have no idea of how to act in the best interests of their country... . Their intention is to serve none but themselves."

Lively has taken his message abroad to Eastern Europe (see Watchmen on the Walls, below), Africa and Russia. In a 2007 open letter to the Russian people, he asserted that "homosexuality is a personality disorder that involves various, often dangerous sexual addictions and aggressive, anti-social impulses." In 2009, he went to Uganda to speak at a major conference on the evils of homosexuality, saying, among other things: "The gay movement is an evil institution. The goal of the gay movement is to defeat the marriage-based society and replace it with a culture of sexual promiscuity." He also met with Ugandan lawmakers. A month after Lively left the country, a bill was introduced that called for the death penalty for certain homosexual acts and prison for those who fail to disclose gays' identities.

In 2008, Lively started the Redemption Gate Mission Society, a church that seeks to "re-Christianize" the city of Springfield, Mass., where he lives."

But perhaps before the day is out the Tea Partiers can top this by burning a Koran or lynching some effigies of black people. You know, populism!

Mugato: I still don't know what is it about their taxes that they were allegedly protesting.

They are mad because a penny or two of their money will STILL go to "those people" who will then spend it on 55" rims.

"He then said "Don't shove you!?" and then choked me, for a short period of time. My comrades reacted pretty quick, taking those pictures, getting his badge number, etc."

obviously a communist.