I was watching the John Wayne version of "The Alamo" this weekend and there is a line in the movie about keeping stuff in the basement fo the Alamo.

John Wayne's teeth.
Are they plastic or are they steel?

"Hangin's too good for him...Burnin's too good for him! He should be torn into itsy-bitsy pieces and buried alive!"

snocone: Rastapopulous: It's extremely disrespectful to urinate on any building, but especially the Alamo. Part of it is still a church not to mention that the entire site is a massive graveyard where the bodies of not only 185 Texians but also almost 600 Mexicans were burned or buried.

It's more a Texas memorial than a U.S. one since they were fighting for Texan independence. The entire place is a shrine to Texas liberty and is a military memorial. People that urinate on the Alamo are no different than if someone were to urinate on a memorial gravesite at Arlington National Cemetery.

And we wonder why the Jews and Arabs can't get over that wall thing.
It's a farking building, nothing more. Use your imagination, but it is still just a pile of mud.

Go take a dump on the Gettysberg battleground and see what happens next. It's just a field after all, right?

/your house is just some sticks and bricks, can I pee all over it?

Read the headline. Knew Ozzy was going to be in this thread approving. Was disappointed it took four posts to get it.

CSB: I took a shiat on the eiffel tower. But it was in a toilet.

the alamo basement dot com (new window) better than zombo.

vudukungfu: I was watching the John Wayne version of "The Alamo" this weekend

Check out the more modern version (w/ billy bob thornton). Good movie and historically correct.

I had wondered why the events in the ~month following the surrender of the Alamo weren't touched on (they were quite dramatic too, if not moreso that the alamo siege itself) but then I read that the filmmakers chose not to include those events because they feared it'd spark violence against modern day mexicans.....

/Fark you Fannin!

Dude, it's Texas. Who gives a crap?

rufus-t-firefly: Rastapopulous: It's extremely disrespectful to urinate on any building, but especially the Alamo. Part of it is still a church

No, it isn't.

Yes, it is. Try and walk in there with a hat on and see what they tell you. Even though it's not used as a place of worship, it has never ceased being what it was originally consecrated as, a church.


No, they weren't. If you can find remains on the grounds, please tell someone.

The bodies of all the Texian defenders were burned in a heap in the courtyard right in front of the chapel. Both sides had people die all over the grounds.


Hell, most of the original site is covered by streets and other buildings. The chapel isn't the entire compound.
Which is why I said 'part of it is still a church'.

illicit: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Didn't we lose at the Alamo?

Well we lost Pearl Harbor, but it's still kind of a big deal.

And in both cases the "winner" merely created a rallying cry for the eventual winner of the war. At least the Japanese best admiral recognized that fact ("I fear all we have done today is to awaken a great, sleeping giant.") and the Japenese took decisively fewer causalities at Pearl Harbor than did the Mexicans at the Alamo.

socodog: Jackierabbit, you really want to look at your history again. Texas seceded from Mexico and fought a war of independance. It was its own country for a period of time. Texas then joined the United States voluntarily.

Hate on, though. We're all total monsters here.

Sure. I just did. The Republic of Texas was the object of a border dispute between Mexico and the US throughout its existence. This was because the American settlers who entered Texas did not honor the Adams-Onís Treaty of 1819 with Spain. The US was implicit in its support of the formation of the Republic, though it initially distanced itself from it for political reasons. Mexico claimed that the settlers who formed the republic were encroaching on Mexican territory (and they were). It was always a de facto part of the US, though claimed to be a sovereign state. The formal US annexation of Texas in 1845 was the cause of the Mexican-American War. You are correct, though; the annexation of Texas was their idea and was voluntary -- voluntary by the Americans who settled there. It was first proposed in 1835, on year before the battle of the Alamo, the US government declined a proposal to annex Texas, as it understood that this would lead to war. Of course the claims and demands of the Apache, Comanche, Kiowa and other tribes in texas were pretty much ignored. They were just filthy savages, after all.

This has nothing to do with hate and everything about being honest in our history. The history is that the US has always taken what it wants and kills anyone who get in its way. That's the ugly truth.

Rastapopulous: It's extremely disrespectful to urinate on any building, but especially the Alamo.

CVB time:

As a teenager I was on my home from a date and stopped at a grocery store parking lot where I saw some of my friends. Five minutes after pulling in, we were approached by a couple of plain clothes cop and a patrol car. We were being taken in for public urination for peeing on the side wall of the grocery store. I explained that I'd just arrived and hadn't done anything of the sort but was told 'we've been watching you the whole time' which obviously wasn't true because I was being truthful. Anyway, it's small town alabama and an extremely old building - the only toilet was in the usually unoccupied holding cell which has currently housing a rare thing in small town alabama in the 70's - an actual murder suspect. So, when it came time to take a leak, me and my three friends were escorted outside. There, the detective who arrested us for public urination joined us in peeing on the side of the jail. I do not believe he recognized the irony of the situation.

tl;dr version - I once peed on the side of a police station WITH the detective who earlier that evening had arrested me for public urination.

/american werewolf in london was on the tv, which was cool

JohnBigBootay: CVB time:

meant CSB - sorry

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Didn't we lose at the Alamo?

The south likes to revel in their failures. Just look at all the confederate flags they fly.

So, it's like a 19th century Waco compound?

coeyagi: Stephen_Falken: Dude, it's Texas. Who gives a crap?

THIS.

Everything's bigger in Texas - except employment rates, education rates, insured rates, IQs, etc etc.

Texas can suck it's own great big dick.


Right backatcha, bud.

Mugato: "When Ozzy pissed on the Alamo, he did his time, came back and rocked the place."

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A better movie about music has not been made

/I know you guys think I'm a dick.. cheeseburger.. or something.

santadog: Cormee: "The Alamo is one of the most instantly recognizable buildings in the world,"

Like fark it is. I doubt anyone outside the USA could tell you what it looks like.

It's true. Texas is a big icon of the USA in other countries. I would bet that more Aussies, Euros, and Japanese would recognize the Alamo than Americans.

In the Alamo's defense. The first news accounts of the Alamo stated that it was the first military event in history that compared with the battle of thermopylae.

/ the greeks lost at thermopylae too

brantgoose: I assume the Alamo is made at least partly of adobe.

Urine + adobe = collapse.



Limestone. Still pretty susceptible to uric acid tho, it's soft rock.

Cormee: "The Alamo is one of the most instantly recognizable buildings in the world,"

Like fark it is. I doubt anyone outside the USA could tell you what it looks like.

Came here to say this.

I have heard of the Alamo but have no idea what it is all about or what it looks like or anything at all about it. very much doubt that any of my friends have better idea.

/British

santadog:

So it wouldn't bother you at all if someone came along once in awhile and pissed on the wall or door of your home? Maybe you live in NYC, and this does happen often.

You seem to be confusing Death Wish NYC with modern NYC.

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Didn't we lose at the Alamo?

Like my Mexican friends say "No, you lost at the Alamo."

Pert: I have heard of the Alamo but have no idea what it is all about or what it looks like or anything at all about it. very much doubt that any of my friends have better idea.

It's really small.

I live in San Antonio, although I am not originally from Texas. I like it here, the weather's warm, and there's a lot to do. Oh, and I like the food.

I appreciate the Alamo for what it is- a vehicle to bring tourists to the city who will then spend their money and keep my taxes lower. When this story broke, though, the locals lost it. The news went full retard, with a story on how the Alamo was DESECRATED. People were flat-out irate.

Having said all that, I've been to a lot of historic sites. I've even visited some while under the influence. I've never had the urge to whiz on one.

JackieRabbit: This was because the American settlers who entered Texas did not honor the Adams-Onís Treaty of 1819 with Spain.

On 8/24/1821, that treaty became worthless when Spain granted independence to Mexico.

I don't think you can find many countries that don't have some kind of blood on their hands.

coeyagi: Everything's bigger in Texas - except employment rates, education rates, insured rates, IQs, etc etc.

Texas can suck it's own great big dick.

I assume you're not a Texan and thus, have a higher IQ than Texans? I can assume from your comment then, that some people with high IQ's are want to deal in sweeping generalizations. I would've said ALL people with high IQ's, but, as I'm living in Texas, I'm not able to make such intelligent generalizations.

/Not a native Texan
//Don't really care about the perception either way
///Don't actually think you have a high IQ

Cormee: Like fark it is. I doubt anyone outside the USA could tell you what it looks like.

Not true... I'm outside the U.S. and I can tell you.



Oh, wait, sorry.. that's the a la mode.

blatz514: MBooda: blatz514: Uhoh, where did I pee then???

Easington Colliery?

/obscure?

Damn, now I feel stupid for asking. Why is it obscure?

/bows head in shame for not knowing

I'm going to hold out a bit before giving the answer. There must be someone on FARK Who knows.

Therion: The Alamo Curator and a preservationist will try to determine how serious the damage from the acids in the urine was to the wall of the Alamo, and to decide how best to remove the visible stain.

What the hell was that guy drinking; and/or has The Alamo Curator never heard of a garden hose?

What use would it be? It's not like they have fresh water.

Maybe if they didn't build the Alamo so close to all the bars on the River Walk less drunk people would stumble over to the Alamo and piss on it.

pute kisses like a man: santadog: Cormee: "The Alamo is one of the most instantly recognizable buildings in the world,"

Like fark it is. I doubt anyone outside the USA could tell you what it looks like.

It's true. Texas is a big icon of the USA in other countries. I would bet that more Aussies, Euros, and Japanese would recognize the Alamo than Americans.

In the Alamo's defense. The first news accounts of the Alamo stated that it was the first military event in history that compared with the battle of thermopylae.

/ the greeks lost at thermopylae too

Perhaps, but at Thermopylae the Spartans in coordination with the armies of the other Greek cities states chose to make a stand and die in place if necessary. The defenders of the Alamo on the other hand stubbornly held out against orders to withdraw. the Spartans asked for no reinforcements, in fact sent other Greek forces away so they could be spared for battle later. The Texans in the Alamo on the other hand wrote letter after letter asking for reinforcements and supplies and received very little--really there was none to be had.

On the other hand, in both cases the stands by both the Texans and the Spartans bought their forces valuable time to get organized and in both cases they died pretty much to the last man. In the case of the Texans, the Alamo was pretty surrounded by open ground on all sides, while Thermopylae was only approachable through a narrow mountain pass and a literal goat path through the mountains and it afforded the Spartans excellent flank protection.

So who had the bigger balls, the Texans or the Spartans? Yes. You never take "die in place" missions without having a massive pair.

Cormee: "The Alamo is one of the most instantly recognizable buildings in the world,"

Like fark it is. I doubt anyone outside the USA could tell you what it looks like.

I'm in the USA and the only reason I know what it looks like is because of Cloak and Dagger

Cormee: "The Alamo is one of the most instantly recognizable buildings in the world,"

Like fark it is. I doubt anyone outside the USA could tell you what it looks like.

Most Americans couldn't, either. It's ridiculously UNimpressive.

IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: I assume you're not a Texan and thus, have a higher IQ than Texans? I can assume from your comment then, that some people with high IQ's are want to deal in sweeping generalizations. I would've said ALL people with high IQ's, but, as I'm living in Texas, I'm not able to make such intelligent generalizations.

I'll point you to the comments section in TFA. Real collection of winners in there, including multiple instances of "Get a rope"/"Public hanging," confusion of Texas as a nation instead of a state, and encouragement of committing federal crimes because of a general disliking of our current President. That should sum up the IQ question for you.

Skr: Shrine of Texas Liberty? They really call the Alamo that?

Ha! Most Texans think they won that battle.

coeyagi: Stephen_Falken: Dude, it's Texas. Who gives a crap?

THIS.

Everything's bigger in Texas - except employment rates, education rates, insured rates, IQs, etc etc.

Texas can suck it's own great big dick.

What's the definition of "midget"? A Texan with all the bullshiat knocked out of him.

Pert: Cormee: "The Alamo is one of the most instantly recognizable buildings in the world,"

Like fark it is. I doubt anyone outside the USA could tell you what it looks like.

Came here to say this.

I have heard of the Alamo but have no idea what it is all about or what it looks like or anything at all about it. very much doubt that any of my friends have better idea.

/British

I could be standing right inside it and not recognise it unless I found the cool bicycle stored in the basement.