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2012-04-16 09:44:36 AM  
Instagreen!

/not mine.
 
2012-04-16 09:44:44 AM  
accused the Obama administration of curtailing Americans' personal, religious and economic freedoms.

I just saw one of Romney's balls chasing Indiana Jones.
 
2012-04-16 09:45:04 AM  
You're the real misogynist for pointing that out, subby.
 
2012-04-16 09:46:16 AM  
Now that's just awful. I don't know how many times I've told those Republicans, never call chicks broads.
 
2012-04-16 09:46:20 AM  
FTA: "I think anybody is better than Obama when it comes to gun issues," her husband interjected.

Obama? The guy that has rubber-stamped anything the NRA has sent through the past four years?

What are you guys looking for? Do you want them to require ownership?

But I guess when you're the NRA if you don't have outrage to sell you've really got nothing to do.
 
2012-04-16 09:48:02 AM  
FTA:
Romney largely avoided wading into thorny issues of gun control and the Second Amendment, issues which have dogged his past campaigns, and stuck to broader criticism of the president before this largely conservative audience.


"President Obama is moving us away from our founders vision," Romney told several thousand members of the NRA gathered here today. "Instead of limited government he is leading us toward limited freedom and limited opportunity."


Because today's "conservatives" can not deal with thorny things like issues, but research has shown that they will engage in violent mutual masturbation when generic talking points about founders and freedoms are brought up.... especially in regards to the scary black man taking away their freedoms and not being like the founders.
 
2012-04-16 09:48:35 AM  
Obama is the NRA's dream candidate.

They get all the support and fervor that comes from the fear of a nationwide gun ban, while having the White House occupied by a political opportunist, who would never burn the political capital required to enact even the most toothless gun control bill.
 
2012-04-16 09:49:28 AM  
Here's a fun game... every time Mitt Rmoney says "Freedom," substitute it with "fiefdom." That will provide a better picture of what the GOP hopes to establish.
 
2012-04-16 09:49:47 AM  
Way to appeal to fear and scare tactics, Romney. I keep asking people I know who are gun nutty, and dislike Obama (I am only gun nutty) "What has changed in the past three years that has restricted your ability to have firearms, ammo, or transport them, that was different under Bush?" and "What restrictions did Bush remove from the table allowing you more access to firearms, ammo and transporting them that had been restricted before?" The answer to both is not much of anything. This is the fear pandering portion of politics that are so annoying to me.
 
2012-04-16 09:51:05 AM  

rudemix: Way to appeal to fear and scare tactics, Romney. I keep asking people I know who are gun nutty, and dislike Obama (I am only gun nutty) "What has changed in the past three years that has restricted your ability to have firearms, ammo, or transport them, that was different under Bush?" and "What restrictions did Bush remove from the table allowing you more access to firearms, ammo and transporting them that had been restricted before?" The answer to both is not much of anything. This is the fear pandering portion of politics that are so annoying to me.


"He's taking your guns and your jobs while forcing your daughters to get gay-married while on the pill! Also, gas prices!"
 
2012-04-16 09:51:36 AM  
oh and this
FTA
We need a President who will stand up for the rights of hunters, sportsmen, and those seeking to protect their homes and their families. President Obama has not; I will," he said.

Can we get an EXACT list of things Obama has done to curtail the rights of hunters?
Maybe he needs to have Biden shoot someone in the face with a shotgun while hunting.

It is this generic talking point BS that pissing me off about today's GOP.
 
2012-04-16 09:51:49 AM  

Skarekrough: FTA: "I think anybody is better than Obama when it comes to gun issues," her husband interjected.

Obama? The guy that has rubber-stamped anything the NRA has sent through the past four years?

What are you guys looking for? Do you want them to require ownership?

But I guess when you're the NRA if you don't have outrage to sell you've really got nothing to do.


I think the NRA has painted themselves into a corner. They need new members like any other group, but I think the gunowner market is largely saturated. At the moment, it's the same people buying up all the guns and ammo. The NRA is bringing the derp and getting involved in other issues to try and convince non-owners to start buying memberships.
 
2012-04-16 09:52:17 AM  
*IF* Romney manages to get the NRA base out to vote, it won't be because they are voting for him. It'll be because they are voting against Obama. They know the margins on the Heller and McDonald decisions were a single vote.

It certainly won't be because Romney is a long-time friend of gun owners, because he isn't.
 
2012-04-16 09:52:28 AM  

JusticeandIndependence: Instagreen!

/not mine.


Obviously not, it was clever.
 
2012-04-16 09:52:39 AM  

rudemix: Way to appeal to fear and scare tactics, Romney. I keep asking people I know who are gun nutty, and dislike Obama (I am only gun nutty) "What has changed in the past three years that has restricted your ability to have firearms, ammo, or transport them, that was different under Bush?" and "What restrictions did Bush remove from the table allowing you more access to firearms, ammo and transporting them that had been restricted before?" The answer to both is not much of anything. This is the fear pandering portion of politics that are so annoying to me.


Didn't Obama loosen some gun control measures, and allow some old bans to expire? That monster!
 
2012-04-16 09:54:35 AM  

Skarekrough: FTA: "I think anybody is better than Obama when it comes to gun issues," her retard husband interjected.


Fixed for accuracy.
 
2012-04-16 09:54:44 AM  

blastoh: We need a President who will stand up for the rights of hunters, sportsmen, and those seeking to protect their homes and their families. President Obama has not; I will," he said.


What the chunkfark is he even talking about? In the 90's gun control fears from Democrats were valid if vastly overblown, but Obama has done neither fark nor all to limit the availability of guns or prevent people from owning them.
 
2012-04-16 09:54:49 AM  

blastoh: oh and this
FTA
We need a President who will stand up for the rights of hunters, sportsmen, and those seeking to protect their homes and their families. President Obama has not; I will," he said.

Can we get an EXACT list of things Obama has done to curtail the rights of hunters?
Maybe he needs to have Biden shoot someone in the face with a shotgun while hunting.

It is this generic talking point BS that pissing me off about today's GOP.


I like the way he phrased it. "Hunters and sportsmen. Oh, and protection too, I guess."
 
2012-04-16 09:55:13 AM  

rudemix: Way to appeal to fear and scare tactics, Romney. I keep asking people I know who are gun nutty, and dislike Obama (I am only gun nutty) "What has changed in the past three years that has restricted your ability to have firearms, ammo, or transport them, that was different under Bush?" and "What restrictions did Bush remove from the table allowing you more access to firearms, ammo and transporting them that had been restricted before?" The answer to both is not much of anything. This is the fear pandering portion of politics that are so annoying to me.



I am in the same boat. A bunch of my NRA buddies foam at the mouth over Obama. Despite that gun laws have relaxed (if anything) during his term.

But the NRA has them all convinced that this is a cunning plan to lull them in to a false sense of security so that in his SECOND term he can help the United Nations kick in our doors and take our guns regardless of the 2nd amendment. (or some such nonsense).

When I ask "So his entire since day 1 was based on his assumption that he would HAVE a second term?!?!?!" Blank stares.

I swear, the NRA newsletters can make otherwise sane people retarded.

/Never go full NRA
//Member anyway. Some threats are real.
 
2012-04-16 09:56:12 AM  

Mentat: Skarekrough: FTA: "I think anybody is better than Obama when it comes to gun issues," her husband interjected.

Obama? The guy that has rubber-stamped anything the NRA has sent through the past four years?

What are you guys looking for? Do you want them to require ownership?

But I guess when you're the NRA if you don't have outrage to sell you've really got nothing to do.

I think the NRA has painted themselves into a corner. They need new members like any other group, but I think the gunowner market is largely saturated. At the moment, it's the same people buying up all the guns and ammo. The NRA is bringing the derp and getting involved in other issues to try and convince non-owners to start buying memberships.


If you listen carefully to their coded language, I think it comes down to this:

Black people are no longer just content robbing liquor stores and selling crack. They've infiltrated the white house. The race war is just around the corner, better stock up now before Obama bans guns for everyone except black gang bangers. Because the real racist is in the whitehouse.
 
2012-04-16 09:58:09 AM  

blastoh: oh and this
FTA
We need a President who will stand up for the rights of hunters, sportsmen, and those seeking to protect their homes and their families. President Obama has not; I will," he said.

Can we get an EXACT list of things Obama has done to curtail the rights of hunters?
Maybe he needs to have Biden shoot someone in the face with a shotgun while hunting.

It is this generic talking point BS that pissing me off about today's GOP.


Don't you remember when he outlawed fishing? Land animals are next on his lib agenda.
 
2012-04-16 09:59:11 AM  

blastoh: Can we get an EXACT list of things Obama has done to curtail the rights of hunters?


Well there was that time that he came to the home (or "compound") of every hunter in America and personally took their firearms and smelted them all to create an enormous steel statue of Lenin. Oh no wait, that's what he's going to do the day after re-election. This term he's said nothing about restricting gun laws at all just to throw everyone off the track.

Why is Romney wasting his time making a speech to the NRA anyway? Talk about preaching to the converted.
 
2012-04-16 10:00:09 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Don't you remember when he outlawed fishing? Land animals are next on his lib agenda.


Next you'll be telling me 0bama won't let me hunt the most dangerous game of all... man.

/Or a bear with sharks for arms.
 
2012-04-16 10:00:17 AM  
If we can get that status of women a bit lower and repeal all these dumb equal pay for equal work laws, we wont need Mexicans anymore.
 
2012-04-16 10:00:35 AM  

Mugato: Why is Romney wasting his time making a speech to the NRA anyway? Talk about preaching to the converted.


He needs to demonstrate proper fealty.
 
2012-04-16 10:01:58 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Mugato: Why is Romney wasting his time making a speech to the NRA anyway? Talk about preaching to the converted.

He needs to demonstrate proper fealty.


Yeah, the last thing Romney needs is for major right-leaning organizations to go "Romney? Eh..."
 
2012-04-16 10:02:22 AM  
The marketing departments for the gun and ammo manufacturers must love this sh*t.
 
2012-04-16 10:04:07 AM  
The thought that Obama is against gun owners has been great for the gun industry. Although Romney would be bad for the industry, they have to pretend to support him so they can act dissapointed and frightened when Obama wins again.
 
2012-04-16 10:04:33 AM  
The NRA doesn't support gun rights. It supports Republicans. If a Republican were to ban all guns tomorrow, the NRA would praise their responsibility. If you support gun rights, don't waste your time and money with the NRA.
 
2012-04-16 10:04:41 AM  
I'm not saying that Satan is a woman; I'm just saying the devil is abroad.
 
2012-04-16 10:06:13 AM  

Mugato: blastoh: Can we get an EXACT list of things Obama has done to curtail the rights of hunters?

Well there was that time that he came to the home (or "compound") of every hunter in America and personally took their firearms and smelted them all to create an enormous steel statue of Lenin. Oh no wait, that's what he's going to do the day after re-election. This term he's said nothing about restricting gun laws at all just to throw everyone off the track.

Why is Romney wasting his time making a speech to the NRA anyway? Talk about preaching to the converted.


Two words: Fund. Raising.
 
2012-04-16 10:09:37 AM  
in GOPease freedom = higher taxes for the poor and middle class.
 
2012-04-16 10:10:20 AM  
Dame that Romney for skirting the real issues like this.

Ugh what have I done
 
2012-04-16 10:11:57 AM  

LarryDan43: The thought that Obama is against gun owners has been great for the gun industry.


It's not just Obama, it's them dang gummed Demmycrats in general.
 
2012-04-16 10:12:52 AM  

Mugato:
Why is Romney wasting his time making a speech to the NRA anyway? Talk about preaching to the converted.


Actually, I dont know about that. This crowd is not very likely to get out for Romney. I mean, they will vote for him if they vote, he he is not likely to drive them to the polls. So, if he can not convince them to get out and vote FOR him, then maybe he can at lease get them to get out and vote AGAINST Obama.
 
2012-04-16 10:13:10 AM  

Skarekrough: FTA: "I think anybody is better than Obama when it comes to gun issues," her husband interjected.

Obama? The guy that has rubber-stamped anything the NRA has sent through the past four years?

What are you guys looking for? Do you want them to require ownership?


Not quite. I'm pretty sure they'd freak out if nig-blah people were required to have guns.
 
2012-04-16 10:13:37 AM  
Romney largely avoided wading into thorny issues of gun control and the Second Amendment

Probably a good idea since Obama has increased gun rights.

Don't tell that to Wayne LaPierre, though. He'll shoot your commie ass.
 
2012-04-16 10:14:13 AM  

LazarusLong42: Mugato: blastoh: Can we get an EXACT list of things Obama has done to curtail the rights of hunters?

Well there was that time that he came to the home (or "compound") of every hunter in America and personally took their firearms and smelted them all to create an enormous steel statue of Lenin. Oh no wait, that's what he's going to do the day after re-election. This term he's said nothing about restricting gun laws at all just to throw everyone off the track.

Why is Romney wasting his time making a speech to the NRA anyway? Talk about preaching to the converted.

Two words: Fund. Raising.



Yeah like he needs money. No, I know what you're saying. It's just if I were him I'd try harder to suck up to the women voters more. Or minorities. He needs voters who can be swayed to vote against their interests more than he needs campaign contributions.
 
2012-04-16 10:17:18 AM  

blastoh: Actually, I dont know about that. This crowd is not very likely to get out for Romney. I mean, they will vote for him if they vote, he he is not likely to drive them to the polls. So, if he can not convince them to get out and vote FOR him, then maybe he can at lease get them to get out and vote AGAINST Obama.


Yeah I suppose it's important to rile up people who might not normally vote.
 
2012-04-16 10:19:05 AM  
NRA is such a pile of crap for letting him talk there. The new NRA is GOA. They actually stand by their words, unlike the NRA. For those that have guns and actually care about he 2nd amendment, leave NRA and join GOA.
 
2012-04-16 10:21:12 AM  

Mugato: Why is Romney wasting his time making a speech to the NRA anyway? Talk about preaching to the converted.


I suspect that there are more than a few NRA members that aren't really that "converted." Recall that Bush the Elder decided to give up his NRA membership rather than sit there and effectively endorse the crazy. Just because you like guns doesn't make you a right winger.

What I would like to see is Obama do a speech at the NRA, and compare his record to Romney's on a power point. Which politician signed an assault weapons ban?

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I would like to get poll results from NRA members.
 
2012-04-16 10:21:31 AM  
We get it. He's black, therefore History's Greatest Enemy of Gun OwnershipTM.
 
2012-04-16 10:24:10 AM  
Rmoney has no vision for the future because no one has told him what it is yet. He has no other choice but to attack obama.
 
2012-04-16 10:27:02 AM  

Forgot_my_password_again: Rmoney has no vision for the future because no one has told him what it is yet. He has no other choice but to attack obama.


His software is due to be upgraded and will include predictive analytics. He'll be able to take on multiple positions for future events now.
 
2012-04-16 10:27:30 AM  
Funny how some of biggest gun nuts at the nra seem to be the most piss terrified at this imaginary boogey man.

'BOO! Obama will take your guns away ANY second now!'
 
2012-04-16 10:27:51 AM  

AntiNerd: I suspect that there are more than a few NRA members that aren't really that "converted." Recall that Bush the Elder decided to give up his NRA membership rather than sit there and effectively endorse the crazy. Just because you like guns doesn't make you a right winger.

What I would like to see is Obama do a speech at the NRA, and compare his record to Romney's on a power point. Which politician signed an assault weapons ban?


That's actually true. My dad is a Viet Nam vet and a life time member of the NRA and he's a liberal. Although not as much anymore. I don't belong to the NRA but I have a Walther PPK and a Beretta and even though I used to not consider myself liberal I suppose I am about most things. Not all but most.

I don't know if Obama could hold a rally with the NRA. That could get a little dicey.
 
2012-04-16 10:28:07 AM  
2nd Amendment issues are thorny? When tackled in front of an NRA audience?

What the hell? I could expound at great length on 2nd Amendment issues in front of that audience. It's not like Romney is going to say anything that will prevent him from saying the opposite sometime later, anyways.
 
2012-04-16 10:28:45 AM  
If Obama gets a second term, he will use his time machine to make it so guns we're never invented!
 
2012-04-16 10:29:47 AM  

MindStalker: Didn't Obama loosen some gun control measures, and allow some old bans to expire? That monster!


Obama signed a bill that allowed concealed carry in national parks provided that local state law was being followed.

Bush "let" the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban expire. He didn't take much of a position on it, just said he'd sign the re-authorization if Congress gave it to him, but didn't ask for it to get done, and I think everybody knew Congress wasn't going to pass anything.

Obama has said he wants the AWB back, but hasn't put any pressure on Congress (that I know of) to get it done. But every now and again he'll mention it.
 
2012-04-16 10:32:56 AM  

Lost Thought 00: The NRA doesn't support gun rights. It supports Republicans. If a Republican were to ban all guns tomorrow, the NRA would praise their responsibility. If you support gun rights, don't waste your time and money with the NRA.


No, they don't. They have a long history of also supporting pro-gun Democrats. In 2010 alone the NRA endorsed 14 Democratic incumbents over GOP challengers.
 
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