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(Slate)   First they did away with Saturday mail delivery, and I said nothing. Then they came for Friday delivery, and I sent a strongly worded email   (slate.com) divider line 266
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2012-04-16 01:26:27 PM

generallyso: Don't worry! Congress will keep introducing ridiculous hoops for the USPS to jump through until it's outright disbanded and mail delivery is wholly privatized. In a few decades or so the US government will officially be a corporate entity.


Don't sweat it. The government is far too wasteful to be a corporate entity.
 
2012-04-16 01:26:33 PM

forteblast: I realize this is oversimplifying the situation, but why can't they just:

1. Determine what the price of postage should be in order to break even.
2. Increase the postage fees to that amount.

Sending a letter is ridiculously cheap. I don't think people are going to gripe too much about paying 75 cents instead of 45 to send their greeting cards if it means the mail system doesn't go belly up.


The problem is that Congress won't let the USPS charge 75 cents.
 
2012-04-16 01:27:12 PM

generallyso: Don't worry! Congress will keep introducing ridiculous hoops for the USPS to jump through until it's outright disbanded and mail delivery is wholly privatized. In a few decades or so the US government will officially be a corporate entity.


God Bless The United States of America, Inc.
 
2012-04-16 01:27:21 PM
What about shifting the PO hours to 2-10pm? You'd increase accessibility for customers and reduce air conditioning costs in the summer.

M-F 9-5 is the stupidest hours for any customer service group.
 
2012-04-16 01:27:25 PM
ITT: People attributing the USPS's shiattyness to recent government meddling, not to the fact that the USPS is shiatty and has been shiatty for some time.

Every post office near me is full of the laziest, least competent employees of any organization I could imagine. The ones near me make the DMV seem like a well-oiled machine. If my firm wants to make sure somebody gets something important, the Post Office falls somewhere between "carrier pigeon" and "osmosis".
 
2012-04-16 01:27:28 PM
In my opinion, they should cut back residential delivery to three days a week. Odd zip codes get delivered on M-W-F; even zip codes on Tu-Th-Sa. There, I just cut the delivery staff budget in half. You're welcome.

Businesses of course still get everyday. Overnight mail gets delivered next day, no matter what. And if you're a residential customer who needs everyday delivery, get a PO Box.
 
2012-04-16 01:27:38 PM

12349876: Devo: As a city dweller, Saturday is the only day I have a chance to receive anything that won't fit into the mail slot.

If you can, get your big shiat mailed to your work.


Heh. I once ordered a front clip for a Ford Ranger from a junkyard in AZ. Fenders, bumper, core support...all of it. Apparently they just sent a guy out with a cutoff saw and sliced the whole thing off at the firewall.

Had it sent to work, where I assumed they would drop it off in the lobby. But no, they actually loaded it into the elevator and delivered it to the executive secretary. She wasn't happy with me at all.
 
2012-04-16 01:28:06 PM
I thought residential delivery is a relatively new thing. I thought before the 20th century you had to go to the post office to pick up your mail, especially in rural areas.

I would be okay if it went back to this.
 
2012-04-16 01:28:20 PM
Cut it down to 4 days a week (Mon, Tue, Thur, Fri) and give the carriers routes that will fill a 10 hour day. Problem solved.
 
2012-04-16 01:28:51 PM
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Netflix says 'ha ha' to no no mail on Saturday.
 
2012-04-16 01:29:10 PM

forteblast: I realize this is oversimplifying the situation, but why can't they just:

1. Determine what the price of postage should be in order to break even.
2. Increase the postage fees to that amount.


Because they need congressional approval, and they won't get it. The GOP wants to kill the post office, which is why it is in this mess in the first place
 
2012-04-16 01:29:22 PM

TyrantII: People always say they'd welcome it, but I'm not sure they realize just how much mom and pop store commerce is shipped via USPS now. It's cheap and reliable and the lifeline of A LOT of the small business that doesn't have the money or ability to send private inflated prices and reduced schedules.


Because unions. Socialism.
 
2012-04-16 01:30:07 PM
knowing a fellow farker is a postal employee who freaks out in these threads, i'll limit my commentary to nothing. this dog doesn't need to be bitten twice.
 
2012-04-16 01:30:30 PM

Girion47: M-F 9-5 is the stupidest hours for any customer service group.


I'd welcome 9-5. My local branch is 10-2,3-5.
 
2012-04-16 01:30:58 PM

KrispyKritter: knowing a fellow farker is a postal employee who freaks out in these threads, i'll limit my commentary to nothing. this dog doesn't need to be bitten twice.


So he has a history of ... going postal?
 
2012-04-16 01:31:32 PM
Quit reading at
"members of Congress are scrambling against a May 15 deadline to reassure constituents that no, they won't stop receiving their Lane Bryant catalogs and carpet cleaning circulars over the weekend. "

FU, without USPS I could not run my small business. People use it for more important stuff than spam.
 
2012-04-16 01:32:04 PM
Since so many of these dumbass Congresspeople are so against the existence of the USPS maybe we should just revoke their franking privileges and see how they like paying for their own freaking campaign materi excuse me, constituent communications.
 
2012-04-16 01:32:56 PM

Devo: (until congress dips into the retirement plan savings they have accumulated)


You should do standup. Do you think there's a box in which all that cash is sitting? It's buying up government debt so that Bush's legacy of "low deficits" can have the whiff of truth to it.
 
2012-04-16 01:33:07 PM

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Scrolled to this pic just as the boss creeped up behind me. Fantastic e_e
 
2012-04-16 01:33:08 PM

Treygreen13: Every post office near me is full of the laziest, least competent employees of any organization I could imagine. The ones near me make the DMV seem like a well-oiled machine. If my firm wants to make sure somebody gets something important, the Post Office falls somewhere between "carrier pigeon" and "osmosis".


The plural of anecdote is not data.
 
2012-04-16 01:33:34 PM
they allege the existence of a $75 billion pension overpayment to the Treasury by the Postal Service

I will note that this claim is not actually argued against in TFA. Since it's the USPS workers' main argument, it's pretty farking dishonest to just walk right past it.
 
2012-04-16 01:33:50 PM

darghon: FU, without USPS I could not run my small business.


Wrong. Without the burden of government-imposed postal services you'd have the freedom to profit.
 
2012-04-16 01:34:14 PM

Lando Lincoln: As a father of a child who is in boot camp...the US mail service has never been so important to me. And to him.

But yeah, I think it would be okay to get rid of Saturdays.


I agree, the USPS was important while my daughter was in boot camp last summer. But it was not the be all end all of our communication. She got mail once, and maybe twice, a week. She was free to send any thing she wanted at any time. And she called every single week at least once.
 
2012-04-16 01:34:48 PM

serial_crusher: Oh no. I'll have to go all weekend without any extended car warranty scams, grocery store ads, or letter begging for donations to charities that I don't care about? This is tragic.


ValuPack!!!!! Oh what will i do without you until Monday..
 
2012-04-16 01:34:59 PM
When did they get rid of Saturday mail? We still get mail on Saturdays.
 
2012-04-16 01:35:08 PM

Sybarite: ballooning pension costs and the incursion of email have pushed the USPS into what looks like a death spiral

It's an entirely manufactured crisis. The Bush Administration pushed through a postal "reform" law that required the USPS to pre-fund 75 years' worth of future retiree health benefits within just 10 years. No other federal agency or private business is forced to pre-fund benefits on this kind of schedule, and it accounts for the entirety of the loses that have occurred in the intervening years.


That was Congress, not the President.
 
2012-04-16 01:35:44 PM
It's Monday DELIVERY they need to stop. Nothing good comes in the Monday mail.

But keep the Monday pickups, that's when when all the weekend orders get processed and makes a bump for most internet oriented businesses.
 
2012-04-16 01:35:48 PM

RanDomino: Since it's the USPS workers' main argument, it's pretty farking dishonest to just walk right past it.


It's OK because all postal employees are Newman.
 
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2012-04-16 01:36:00 PM
I've got a few relatives that work for U.S.P.S. and they feel losing Saturday would be a very bad thing. I wouldn't mind it. Though I know it would just come on Monday, every Saturday I get mail addressed to a daycare that doesn't exist at my address.

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2012-04-16 01:36:08 PM

12349876: forteblast: I realize this is oversimplifying the situation, but why can't they just:

1. Determine what the price of postage should be in order to break even.
2. Increase the postage fees to that amount.

Sending a letter is ridiculously cheap. I don't think people are going to gripe too much about paying 75 cents instead of 45 to send their greeting cards if it means the mail system doesn't go belly up.

The problem is that Congress won't let the USPS charge 75 cents.


But Congress will require USPS to plan for 75 years of retiree benefits. It's an amazingly simple plan but since it is spread out over many years and steps, the public will never be able to follow.

Step 1) Require USPS to make enough money in 10 years to support 75 years of retiree benefits.
Step 2) USPS realizes it has to raise mail rates outrageous amounts.
Step 3) Congress denies outrageous rate increase.
Step 4) Profit. No, seriously, profit. Normally this step is snark but private businesses actually wil; significantly profit while our mail service goes to shiat and costs a farkload more.
 
2012-04-16 01:36:09 PM
Thanks GOP! what else can you fark up? I hope you die under a pile of money and get left there to rot.
 
2012-04-16 01:36:57 PM
Congress: "Let's cut essential funding to the USPS."
(Time goes by)
Congress: "Why is everyone so upset about losing mail service? Can't they just have a carrier boy bike it across town on Saturday like I do?"
 
2012-04-16 01:38:53 PM
I don't know if it's been mentioned already, but I've always thought USPS should get rid of international delivery.
With UPS, FedEx and DHL, international delivery is taken care of . USPS should focus on US deliveries only. It would save money in jet fuel, pilot wages, plane maintenance etc. Keep a couple of planes for deliveries to Guam and other US territories, but get rid of other international deliveries.
 
2012-04-16 01:39:31 PM
On a personal level, I wouldn't really miss Saturday delivery, but it would still be helpful if the post office stayed open on Saturday to at least accepting mailings for people who can't get there during the regular week.

I also liked the idea of separating residential from commercial/business mailing. Shoot, you could do residential mailings 3 times a week while maintaining a 5-day business mailing system (and if you really had a personal mail item that had to go out, mail it from your office), and I don't know if people would complain that mu...well, this is fark, so yes, they'll complain. :)
 
2012-04-16 01:39:43 PM

Whatthefark: I don't know if it's been mentioned already, but I've always thought USPS should get rid of international delivery.
With UPS, FedEx and DHL, international delivery is taken care of . USPS should focus on US deliveries only. It would save money in jet fuel, pilot wages, plane maintenance etc. Keep a couple of planes for deliveries to Guam and other US territories, but get rid of other international deliveries.


Yeah, isolationism has worked just terrifically for all the places that have tried it.
 
2012-04-16 01:40:13 PM

Whatthefark: I don't know if it's been mentioned already, but I've always thought USPS should get rid of international delivery.


IANAL, but I think parts of international mail delivery has to be dealt with by sovereign nations. FedEx, UPS and DHL don't make the cut, yet.
 
2012-04-16 01:41:51 PM
Whatever the bulk rate is, double it.
 
2012-04-16 01:42:39 PM
The NSA couldn't be happier.
 
2012-04-16 01:42:55 PM
Here's an idea - charge the actual cost of mail or stop giving bulk rates for mail....
 
2012-04-16 01:43:02 PM

evil saltine: darghon: FU, without USPS I could not run my small business.

Wrong. Without the burden of government-imposed postal services you'd have the freedom to profit.


What?
 
2012-04-16 01:43:11 PM

theorellior: Treygreen13: Every post office near me is full of the laziest, least competent employees of any organization I could imagine. The ones near me make the DMV seem like a well-oiled machine. If my firm wants to make sure somebody gets something important, the Post Office falls somewhere between "carrier pigeon" and "osmosis".

The plural of anecdote is not data.


Oh, well since you've cast doubt upon my own personal experiences, then I've changed my mind. Every trip to the Post Office isn't a soul-crushing trip. In fact, I really like it. Look at how many of these charts show me not wanting to kill myself every time I enter one.
 
2012-04-16 01:43:24 PM
The only mail I get at my apt is for previous tenants and loads of junk that I have no interest in, anything important I have sent to my business address if there isn't a paperless option.. I tried to permanently stop delivery but could only find temporary "vacation" holds that I would have to keep extending...so I just stopped getting my mail. Apparently once your box gets filled up they hold it at the post office for a couple weeks, then return to sender if it hasn't been picked up.

three months now, no mail
/csb
 
2012-04-16 01:44:57 PM
triple...the...cost...of...third...class...mail
 
2012-04-16 01:45:08 PM

shazbotuh: serial_crusher: Oh no. I'll have to go all weekend without any extended car warranty scams, grocery store ads, or letter begging for donations to charities that I don't care about? This is tragic.

ValuPack!!!!! Oh what will i do without you until Monday..


Wait a couple of days before throwing that shiat in the garbage, unopened....
 
2012-04-16 01:46:24 PM

Helios1182: forteblast: I realize this is oversimplifying the situation, but why can't they just:

1. Determine what the price of postage should be in order to break even.
2. Increase the postage fees to that amount.


Because they need congressional approval, and they won't get it. The GOP wants to kill the post office, which is why it is in this mess in the first place


Yeah the GOP really hates anything that promotes the common good. WTF?
 
2012-04-16 01:46:41 PM
This goes to show why government can't run a business. Any businessman would look at this and keep Saturday delivery and maybe even add Sunday, and instead cancel Tuesday and Thursday or some other combination of week days.

Saturday delivery is one of the few advantages USPS has left over competitors, if your going to cut a day of service, why in the hell would you do so on the day you actually hold an advantage?
 
2012-04-16 01:46:45 PM
I thought it was teacher salaries that were wrecking the economy. Now you're telling me it's letter carriers?
 
2012-04-16 01:47:20 PM

serial_crusher: Oh no. I'll have to go all weekend without any extended car warranty scams, grocery store ads, or letter begging for donations to charities that I don't care about? This is tragic.


Don't forget solicitations for car/home/life insurance, attorneys and pre-approved credit cards!
 
2012-04-16 01:48:46 PM

Yuri Futanari: The only mail I get at my apt is for previous tenants and loads of junk that I have no interest in, anything important I have sent to my business address if there isn't a paperless option.. I tried to permanently stop delivery but could only find temporary "vacation" holds that I would have to keep extending...so I just stopped getting my mail. Apparently once your box gets filled up they hold it at the post office for a couple weeks, then return to sender if it hasn't been picked up.

three months now, no mail
/csb


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I'd like to cancel my mail....
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2012-04-16 01:48:57 PM
If this interferes with me getting my Victoria's Secret porno mag flyer, then heads will roll.
 
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