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(Yahoo)   "Lock up your Obamas, lock up your Bushes, everybody putting bounties on everybody up in here"   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 73
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2012-04-16 12:02:28 AM  
That guy besides being a Peer is a colossal scumbag who killed an innocent man while texting and driving on Christmas day.
 
2012-04-16 12:08:08 AM  
I'm pretty sure the Queen can take that title away, though I can't remember the official term for the action.
 
2012-04-16 12:16:39 AM  
Yah, that is not going to end well. And knowing the British it will likely involve being pants and spanked in front of Big Ben or some such.
 
2012-04-16 12:37:13 AM  
t2.gstatic.comwww.dailyhaha.com
 
2012-04-16 12:37:45 AM  
International politics in two words: "Oh, YEAH?!"
 
2012-04-16 12:40:29 AM  
onfinite.com
 
2012-04-16 01:02:38 AM  
Um...it looks like he was mocking the bounty Obama put on Saeed. it doesn't look like he was offering a bounty. Subby managed to troll a few people though,
 
2012-04-16 01:06:06 AM  
Well I know if a member of the Australian Parliament did this, it would be a swift booting.

What's the British punishment for disorderly behavior? Being put in a burlap sack and dunked in the Thames?
 
2012-04-16 01:06:58 AM  

feckingmorons: That guy besides being a Peer is a colossal scumbag


besides?
 
2012-04-16 01:09:06 AM  
"If the U.S. can announce a reward of $10 million for the captor of Hafiz Saeed, I can announce a bounty of 10 million pounds on President Obama and his predecessor George Bush," Nazir reportedly said.

Well, yeah but nobody is gonna take you seriously except maybe for folks back in the UK tired of your shiat and ready to turf you over this lunacy.

So there's that.
 
2012-04-16 01:18:42 AM  

Bennie Crabtree: Um...it looks like he was mocking the bounty Obama put on Saeed. it doesn't look like he was offering a bounty.


Whether he was being sarcastic or serious, he's still a complete moron.
 
2012-04-16 01:22:43 AM  

Mrbogey: Well I know if a member of the Australian Parliament did this, it would be a swift booting.


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/I see you've played knifey-spoony before
 
2012-04-16 01:28:05 AM  
 
2012-04-16 01:33:50 AM  
Taking collections to pay the first person who can hit Nazir Ahmed with a pie.

Because if you're going to be this silly, you might as well take it to 11.
 
2012-04-16 01:42:06 AM  

randomjsa: Taking collections to pay the first person who can hit Nazir Ahmed with a pie.


Make it a cow pie for extra lulz and I'd even chip in.
 
2012-04-16 01:44:16 AM  
I wonder if news of this nonsense will cause any of his crew of supporters still left to *ahem* mutiny.

/What? That's a perfectly legit question.
 
2012-04-16 01:50:23 AM  
i can respect the sentiment but his reasoning seems sloppy.
 
2012-04-16 01:56:50 AM  
There are certainly immigration problems over here, but we Americans really do have it lucky. Our brown people have great food and do our labor at third world prices.
But Europe... damn. You guys are farked.

Anyway, followed the source and it says the Labour Party has suspended the guy already:

Link (new window)
 
2012-04-16 02:24:14 AM  

Bennie Crabtree: Um...it looks like he was mocking the bounty Obama put on Saeed. it doesn't look like he was offering a bounty. Subby managed to troll a few people though,


FTFA:

"According to The Express Tribune, Nazir said the bounty on Saeed was a grave insult to all Muslims and that he would sell his house if necessary to obtain the funds necessary to pay the bounty he placed on Obama and Bush."


I guess it depends on his tone at the time, and how much his house is actually worth, but that really doesn't sound like he's mocking anything there. That sounds like he's pretty serious to me. What a genius.
 
2012-04-16 02:26:09 AM  

God-is-a-Taco: There are certainly immigration problems over here, but we Americans really do have it lucky. Our brown people have great food and do our labor at third world prices.
But Europe... damn. You guys are farked.

Anyway, followed the source and it says the Labour Party has suspended the guy already:

Link (new window)


You must not like curry. If we (the US) had as many curry and kebab places as we do taco places I would be in heaven.
 
2012-04-16 02:28:36 AM  
fark this guy.

This is why people in the west are getting sick of immigrants from the Middle East and North Africa who keep one foot in their home country while seeking all the rights and benefits afforded to citizens of the country they moved to. This dude is obviously doing well if he could buy his way into the House of Lords but it's pretty obvious that his major concerns are politics back in Pakistan. If you move to a country and become involved in the politics there while still being actively involved in the politics of your homeland then you are a traitor and don't deserve the rights and benefits you enjoy in your new "home". As a member of the house of lords this guy should be acting for the benefit of the UK and the British people. Instead he's issuing bounties on the leaders of one of the UK's closest allies. I hope he gets farking burned.
 
2012-04-16 02:32:19 AM  

harm dealer: This is why people in the west are getting sick of immigrants from the Middle East and North Africa who keep one foot in their home country while seeking all the rights and benefits afforded to citizens of the country they moved to.


Replace "west" with "US" and "Middle East and North Africa" with "Mexico" and you'd have a typical Minuteman. Not that what this guy did wasn't dickish, but you know.

/racist talk is pretty similar everywhere.
 
2012-04-16 02:53:20 AM  

God-is-a-Taco: There are certainly immigration problems over here, but we Americans really do have it lucky. Our brown people have great food and do our labor at third world prices.
But Europe... damn. You guys are farked.

Anyway, followed the source and it says the Labour Party has suspended the guy already:

Link (new window)


ftla: "I did not offer a bounty. I said that there have been war crimes committed in Iraq and Afghanistan and those people who have got strong allegations against them - George W Bush and Tony Blair have been involved in illegal wars and should be brought to justice," he said from Pakistan.

We live in an information age. Someone taped that speech, I hope.
 
2012-04-16 03:21:15 AM  

themindiswatching: harm dealer: This is why people in the west are getting sick of immigrants from the Middle East and North Africa who keep one foot in their home country while seeking all the rights and benefits afforded to citizens of the country they moved to.

Replace "west" with "US" and "Middle East and North Africa" with "Mexico" and you'd have a typical Minuteman. Not that what this guy did wasn't dickish, but you know.

/racist talk is pretty similar everywhere.


Hmmm. Seems like he was focused on a conflict of interest problem not a race issue. I don't know, maybe you were picking up on a subtext that I didn't. I guess I could see that limiting it to a particular set of immigrants, like focusing on North Africans and Pakistanis, is racist ... maybe. Too small of a sample for me to tell at this point.
 
2012-04-16 03:44:40 AM  
I'm pretty sure putting a bounty on the head of state of an ally to the UK is against the law there.
 
2012-04-16 03:46:19 AM  
Since they don't have guns in the UK, someone should stab this guy in the face. Just for shiats and giggles.

See if he thinks that is an insult to all muslims, or if he learns to keep his piehole shut.

/maybe a Louisville Slugger to the face would have a certain poignant American flavor to it. Are those legal in the UK?
 
2012-04-16 03:58:40 AM  

MeinRS6: /maybe a Louisville Slugger to the face would have a certain poignant American flavor to it. Are those legal in the UK?


Probably not. After all, you could get a splinter.
 
2012-04-16 04:05:44 AM  

kmmontandon: I'm pretty sure the Queen can take that title away, though I can't remember the official term for the action.


Royal biatchslap?
 
2012-04-16 04:10:13 AM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: kmmontandon: I'm pretty sure the Queen can take that title away, though I can't remember the official term for the action.

Royal biatchslap?


If not, it should be.
 
2012-04-16 04:11:41 AM  
FTA: "I did not offer a bounty. I said that there have been war crimes committed in Iraq and Afghanistan and those people who have got strong allegations against them - George W Bush and Tony Blair have been involved in illegal wars and should be brought to justice,"

So he didn't offer a bounty, he just said that he would pay $10 million to see them "brought to justice"... Well, that's completely different, then. Certainly not THE EXACT DEFINITION OF A BOUNTY, at all.

What's the procedure for firing a lord? Does he have to take the Black and guard Hadrian's Wall from the Scottish?
 
2012-04-16 05:13:43 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org

Has had experience firing one Lord.
 
2012-04-16 05:32:20 AM  

feckingmorons: That guy besides being a Peer is a colossal scumbag who killed an innocent man while texting and driving on Christmas day.


How droll.
 
2012-04-16 05:32:50 AM  
"If the U.S. can announce a reward of $10 million for the captor of Hafiz Saeed, I can announce a bounty of 10 million pounds on President Obama and his predecessor George Bush,"

One of these things is not like the other.
 
2012-04-16 05:39:00 AM  

Gunther: FTA: "I did not offer a bounty. I said that there have been war crimes committed in Iraq and Afghanistan and those people who have got strong allegations against them - George W Bush and Tony Blair have been involved in illegal wars and should be brought to justice,"

So he didn't offer a bounty, he just said that he would pay $10 million to see them "brought to justice"... Well, that's completely different, then. Certainly not THE EXACT DEFINITION OF A BOUNTY, at all.

What's the procedure for firing a lord? Does he have to take the Black and guard Hadrian's Wall from the Scottish?


Anyway, define "justice".
Bush is retired in disgrace to his funky Texas cow-farm, and Obama's going back to the White House this fall - and that's justice in my book.

Where's my 10 Mil. ?
 
2012-04-16 05:43:14 AM  

MeinRS6: /maybe a Louisville Slugger to the face would have a certain poignant American flavor to it. Are those legal in the UK?


I think they are. However, most British folks don't have any need for them.

Back when they had the riots a year ago, amazon.co.uk apparently sold out of all different types of baseball bat in short order.
 
2012-04-16 06:47:29 AM  
His exact words 'If they can then I can' are explicitly NOT an offering, merely a rhetorical statement of opinion about the relative morality of the cases.

He is clearly not a complete idiot. He is probably a farking asshole but not a thick one, his words were carefully enough chosen.
 
2012-04-16 06:55:44 AM  
api.ning.com
 
2012-04-16 07:37:38 AM  

gaspode: His exact words 'If they can then I can' are explicitly NOT an offering, merely a rhetorical statement of opinion about the relative morality of the cases.

He is clearly not a complete idiot. He is probably a farking asshole but not a thick one, his words were carefully enough chosen.


I'm sure that if it were brought before a judge (at least here in the US) that he'd be okay not it would not be an explicit death threat. Politically, however, that was a farking stupid thing to say.

Now I'm going to have to spend half my morning reading up on how the Queen can skullfark this guy, because I have a feeling she's probably going to do it.
 
2012-04-16 07:45:58 AM  
Well, that's just weird.
 
2012-04-16 07:51:34 AM  
That's nice, but also retarded.
 
2012-04-16 08:19:03 AM  

gaspode: He is clearly not a complete idiot. He is probably a farking asshole but not a thick one, his words were carefully enough chosen.


If I was the sitting president, I'd but a bounty of "A cold beer and about $3.50 for the capture of Lord Paki, because that's all he's worth."
 
2012-04-16 08:25:53 AM  

verbal_jizm: themindiswatching: harm dealer: This is why people in the west are getting sick of immigrants from the Middle East and North Africa who keep one foot in their home country while seeking all the rights and benefits afforded to citizens of the country they moved to.

Replace "west" with "US" and "Middle East and North Africa" with "Mexico" and you'd have a typical Minuteman. Not that what this guy did wasn't dickish, but you know.

/racist talk is pretty similar everywhere.

Hmmm. Seems like he was focused on a conflict of interest problem not a race issue. I don't know, maybe you were picking up on a subtext that I didn't. I guess I could see that limiting it to a particular set of immigrants, like focusing on North Africans and Pakistanis, is racist ... maybe. Too small of a sample for me to tell at this point.


I agree with your reading of that statement. It would apply equally to any white dude who moved here from Europe, gained political influence, and then demonstrated that his primary concern was still the politics of his home country AND he tried to use his influence to lobby and advocate for that other country.

For example, imagine if Arnold Schwarzenegger had used his influence as CA governor to make it easier to outsource Californian jobs to Austria or something. That would make him a kind of traitor, no? Just like this scumbag, who is supposed to be British and a member of the UK Government, seems to be more interested in Pakistan than he is in the UK.

Race has nothing to do with it, it's a matter of whether or not an immigrant is treating his adopted homeland as his actual homeland.
 
2012-04-16 08:38:22 AM  

gaspode: His exact words 'If they can then I can' are explicitly NOT an offering, merely a rhetorical statement of opinion about the relative morality of the cases.

He is clearly not a complete idiot. He is probably a farking asshole but not a thick one, his words were carefully enough chosen.


"Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest these meddlesome Americans?"
 
2012-04-16 08:54:30 AM  

Gunther: FTA: "I did not offer a bounty. I said that there have been war crimes committed in Iraq and Afghanistan and those people who have got strong allegations against them - George W Bush and Tony Blair have been involved in illegal wars and should be brought to justice,"

So he didn't offer a bounty, he just said that he would pay $10 million to see them "brought to justice"... Well, that's completely different, then. Certainly not THE EXACT DEFINITION OF A BOUNTY, at all.

What's the procedure for firing a lord? Does he have to take the Black and guard Hadrian's Wall from the Scottish?


It really seems like he was just being a tactless maroon, and not a cloak and dagger king-maker.

Made a point to compare his rhetoric to that of the Obama administration. A point that is lost because Obama and Bush were both elected leaders of sovereign nations and Hafiz Saeed is a leader of a militant organization that we'd tend to call a "terrorist network" on today's news.

It was also tactless to offer a 10 million dollar bounty for the guy. It seems... kind of dumb. But then, sources in Pakistan are suggesting that it will work, for the very same reason that I think it's dumb. We know where he is. So do the Pakistani. One greedy or unloyal patron of Saeed is all it takes. Furthermore, with Saeed saying he's not hiding anything, this move makes him seem less credible. Hiding out near a Pakistani Military base saying "neener neener come and get me" doesn't make me think he's the type to turn himself in.
 
2012-04-16 08:55:46 AM  

Bennie Crabtree: Um...it looks like he was mocking the bounty Obama put on Saeed. it doesn't look like he was offering a bounty. Subby managed to troll a few people though,


According to The Express Tribune, Nazir said the bounty on Saeed was a grave insult to all Muslims and that he would sell his house if necessary to obtain the funds necessary to pay the bounty he placed on Obama and Bush.

I mean, really. It might be gross hyperbole, keyword might, but it's still absolutely absurd.
 
2012-04-16 09:14:57 AM  
Will no one rid me of these turbulent arch-socialists?
 
2012-04-16 09:17:26 AM  

The WindowLicker: MeinRS6: /maybe a Louisville Slugger to the face would have a certain poignant American flavor to it. Are those legal in the UK?

I think they are. However, most British folks don't have any need for them.

Back when they had the riots a year ago, amazon.co.uk apparently sold out of all different types of baseball bat in short order.


I think a cricket bat would do well in a pinch.

/do they call them bats?
 
2012-04-16 09:20:15 AM  
Looks like someone doesn't understand the concept of hegemony.
 
2012-04-16 09:36:04 AM  

beta_plus: The WindowLicker: MeinRS6: /maybe a Louisville Slugger to the face would have a certain poignant American flavor to it. Are those legal in the UK?

I think they are. However, most British folks don't have any need for them.

Back when they had the riots a year ago, amazon.co.uk apparently sold out of all different types of baseball bat in short order.

I think a cricket bat would do well in a pinch.

/do they call them bats?


There was actually a story somewhere (Fark.com?) about the relative unsuitability of cricket bats to riotous looting compared with baseball bats. Cricket bats are heavier and the aerodynamics are different, they're harder to swing around quickly and wildly. Plus only nice people play cricket, except in Pakistan and Australia.
So the British own plenty of baseball bats, but they're only used for smashing things and beating people.

/see how I resisted the urge to post a long description of how batting works in cricket?
 
2012-04-16 09:36:48 AM  

Some Michigander: God-is-a-Taco: There are certainly immigration problems over here, but we Americans really do have it lucky. Our brown people have great food and do our labor at third world prices.
But Europe... damn. You guys are farked.

Anyway, followed the source and it says the Labour Party has suspended the guy already:

Link (new window)

You must not like curry. If we (the US) had as many curry and kebab places as we do taco places I would be in heaven.


You're a Michigander who can't find good curry?? Dude. Ashoka in Troy. (Avoid Priya in Clawson... bland crap.) Or, you know... ANYWHERE in Hamtramck, for super cheap.

Let me know where your journey takes you, friend. ;) And say hi to the D for me!

/ Unless you don't live in Metro Detroit. In which case... hi, my name's Josh! Good to meet you.
 
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