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2012-04-15 11:43:14 PM
There are coffee beans all over the place, four year olds are more tidy than he is.

I don't buy coffee that costs more than a buck and a half, and even that is fifty cents more than I like to spend.
 
2012-04-16 12:15:55 AM
My brother and his wife both used to work for starbucks corporate, so I'm gonna posit an educated guess that he is brewing starbucks brand beans.
 
2012-04-16 12:27:44 AM
It's better than that. There are whole beans everywhere in the first two pictures. Then once he pushes down the plunger on the french press, the beans are gone. Did he put them in his cup? Did he eat them whole? Where did they go?

I think it's asinine that Starbucks charges $12-20 for a pound of coffee and the CEO tells people the bag goes bad a week after opening. What normal household can go through a pound of coffee every week?
 
2012-04-16 12:37:37 AM

Mr Tumnus: It's better than that. There are whole beans everywhere in the first two pictures. Then once he pushes down the plunger on the french press, the beans are gone. Did he put them in his cup? Did he eat them whole? Where did they go?

I think it's asinine that Starbucks charges $12-20 for a pound of coffee and the CEO tells people the bag goes bad a week after opening. What normal household can go through a pound of coffee every week?


Dave Grohl's (new window)

cbswpbz.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-04-16 06:01:07 AM

Mr Tumnus: It's better than that. There are whole beans everywhere in the first two pictures. Then once he pushes down the plunger on the french press, the beans are gone. Did he put them in his cup? Did he eat them whole? Where did they go?

I think it's asinine that Starbucks charges $12-20 for a pound of coffee and the CEO tells people the bag goes bad a week after opening. What normal household can go through a pound of coffee every week?


Um, we do but I don't buy Starbucks. I get an organic French Roast that is 11 per lb. French press is the only way to make a decent cup of coffee.
 
2012-04-16 06:05:02 AM
I have family send me 3lbs of Stumptown Roasters "Hair Bender" blend every month.

I haven't had Starbucks in about a year, I reckon.
 
2012-04-16 06:08:32 AM
Let your filtered water reach a rolling boil before you pour it in.

No, if you do that you over extract and the brew becomes bitter and nasty. 190F is what you should shoot for.
 
2012-04-16 06:09:08 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: I have family send me 3lbs of Stumptown Roasters "Hair Bender" blend every month.

I haven't had Starbucks in about a year, I reckon.


Is good coffee available over there?
 
2012-04-16 06:13:53 AM

AbbeySomeone: AverageAmericanGuy: I have family send me 3lbs of Stumptown Roasters "Hair Bender" blend every month.

I haven't had Starbucks in about a year, I reckon.

Is good coffee available over there?


There are some small roasters here and there, but they either go way overboard (like Starbucks) or they stick with a light cinnamon roast which Japanese people seem to have a taste for. I haven't found a happy medium at all.

There's Tully's and Starbucks here. I've seen Seattle's Best, but that was years ago. Not that they are any good, despite the name.

In general, there aren't very many good coffee roasters in Japan. None at a national level, for sure.
 
2012-04-16 06:16:25 AM
I'm sorry, but Americans make terrible coffee.

I can make better coffee at home using one of these bad boys, and this is just an average coffee by Melbourne standards.

static.productreview.com.au

/getting a kick
//some farkers
 
2012-04-16 06:16:53 AM
I'm guessing he would be unimpressed by me using those huge cans of pre-ground Folgers or Maxwell house in my Mr. Coffee. Probably takes at least 2 weeks to a month to use a can from opening - oh and I use artificial sweetener and Coffeemate French Vanilla in their as well. Then again I don't give a rats ass what anyone else thinks about how I take my morning caffeine delivery device.
 
Skr
2012-04-16 06:17:33 AM

Beerguy:

Dave Grohl's (new window)

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FRESH POTS!
 
2012-04-16 06:18:33 AM

Fizpez: I'm guessing he would be unimpressed by me using those huge cans of pre-ground Folgers or Maxwell house in my Mr. Coffee. Probably takes at least 2 weeks to a month to use a can from opening - oh and I use artificial sweetener and Coffeemate French Vanilla in their as well. Then again I don't give a rats ass what anyone else thinks about how I take my morning caffeine delivery device.


You sound poor and bitter.
 
2012-04-16 06:19:22 AM

Mr Tumnus:
I think it's asinine that Starbucks charges $12-20 for a pound of coffee and the CEO tells people the bag goes bad a week after opening. What normal household can go through a pound of coffee every week?



I go through about a pound and a half a week and that's with only making a pot a day...
 
2012-04-16 06:20:03 AM

AbbeySomeone: Fizpez: I'm guessing he would be unimpressed by me using those huge cans of pre-ground Folgers or Maxwell house in my Mr. Coffee. Probably takes at least 2 weeks to a month to use a can from opening - oh and I use artificial sweetener and Coffeemate French Vanilla in their as well. Then again I don't give a rats ass what anyone else thinks about how I take my morning caffeine delivery device.

You sound poor and bitter.


Folgers costs more than Kirkland brand coffee at Costco.

/but it tastes so much worse
 
2012-04-16 06:23:24 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: AbbeySomeone: Fizpez: I'm guessing he would be unimpressed by me using those huge cans of pre-ground Folgers or Maxwell house in my Mr. Coffee. Probably takes at least 2 weeks to a month to use a can from opening - oh and I use artificial sweetener and Coffeemate French Vanilla in their as well. Then again I don't give a rats ass what anyone else thinks about how I take my morning caffeine delivery device.

You sound poor and bitter.

Folgers costs more than Kirkland brand coffee at Costco.

/but it tastes so much worse


What is the likelihood of Folgers drinkers that think white zinfandel in a box is wine?
 
2012-04-16 06:24:12 AM

Fizpez: I'm guessing he would be unimpressed by me using those huge cans of pre-ground Folgers or Maxwell house in my Mr. Coffee. Probably takes at least 2 weeks to a month to use a can from opening - oh and I use artificial sweetener and Coffeemate French Vanilla in their as well. Then again I don't give a rats ass what anyone else thinks about how I take my morning caffeine delivery device.


You sound old.

Actually, you're fine. Just as long as you don't serve it to me.
 
2012-04-16 06:28:11 AM
I use a cafetiere and Cafédirect Kilimanjaro - an 8oz. bag is about £3.60 (approx. $5.70). it's just 100% arabica, nothing fancy. I don't bother about grinding fresh beans or anything more labour intensive than pouring hot water into a glass jug. If I just want coffee, I don't want to have to go through a whole palaver of grinding fresh beans and whatnot, I just want a hot drink within a reasonable time frame.
 
2012-04-16 06:30:45 AM

AbbeySomeone: Mr Tumnus: It's better than that. There are whole beans everywhere in the first two pictures. Then once he pushes down the plunger on the french press, the beans are gone. Did he put them in his cup? Did he eat them whole? Where did they go?

I think it's asinine that Starbucks charges $12-20 for a pound of coffee and the CEO tells people the bag goes bad a week after opening. What normal household can go through a pound of coffee every week?

Um, we do but I don't buy Starbucks. I get an organic French Roast that is 11 per lb. French press is the only way to make a decent cup of coffee.


This. Though I prefer a lighter roast.
 
2012-04-16 06:30:53 AM
I get up at 4:30 every morning to walk my three dogs and work out. Around 5:45 a.m. I make coffee for myself and my wife

he sounds pussy and pet whipped.
 
2012-04-16 06:31:00 AM

EvilEgg: Let your filtered water reach a rolling boil before you pour it in.

No, if you do that you over extract and the brew becomes bitter and nasty. 190F is what you should shoot for.


He's also letting it brew before stirring, so the grounds are not getting evenly brewed. No wonder Starbucks coffee tastes like shiat - the CEO has no idea what good coffee tastes like.
 
2012-04-16 06:31:53 AM
I'm sitting in a Starbucks right now, so I'm getting a kick out of this thread

//Iced Vanilla Double shot is my drink of choice. 5 shots of espresso, half-and-half and a few pumps of vanilla, shaken, over ice
 
2012-04-16 06:34:46 AM

starlost: I get up at 4:30 every morning to walk my three dogs and work out. Around 5:45 a.m. I make coffee for myself and my wife

he sounds pussy and pet whipped.


Well he's wealthy so there is that.

ZureaL: I'm sitting in a Starbucks right now, so I'm getting a kick out of this thread

//Iced Vanilla Double shot is my drink of choice. 5 shots of espresso, half-and-half and a few pumps of vanilla, shaken, over ice


Please tell me you're taking a crowded public transport and not getting in a car.
 
2012-04-16 06:35:28 AM
I've been a coffee drinker for decades. My favorite by a good margin is called a Peaberry coffee which is a trellace grown bean from HI. Not a blend; it's just a high quality Kona coffee. I use the French press when I have this stuff in the house. It's quite expensive per lb, but worth it if you're not wasteful. Smoothest, yet richest, coffee I've ever had. I suggest every serious coffee fan at least tries a well-brewed 100% Kona.
Second favorite for me, outside of a couple of nice coffee house brews, are the nice K Cup roasts. There are a few , and if you don't mind clearing out the little cups, the plastic is recyclable (at least I have heard it is.) You can also use the reusable filter, but I don't prefer it.
Guests always rave about both the Kona and the Keurig coffee we serve, and that rarely used to happen with any other coffee we'd brew.
 
2012-04-16 06:37:47 AM
I have my own civet.
 
2012-04-16 06:38:07 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: AbbeySomeone: Fizpez: I'm guessing he would be unimpressed by me using those huge cans of pre-ground Folgers or Maxwell house in my Mr. Coffee. Probably takes at least 2 weeks to a month to use a can from opening - oh and I use artificial sweetener and Coffeemate French Vanilla in their as well. Then again I don't give a rats ass what anyone else thinks about how I take my morning caffeine delivery device.

You sound poor and bitter.

Folgers costs more than Kirkland brand coffee at Costco.

/but it tastes so much worse


Kirkland is actually quite good for bulk coffee The Newman's Own is very nice as well.
 
2012-04-16 06:40:19 AM
My coffee comes from a gas station that's well known in South Florida for their fried chicken. It sucks, and lacks cute hipster baristas like starbucks. It is only a dollar and change though, if they charge me at all.
 
2012-04-16 06:41:21 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: There are some small roasters here and there, but they either go way overboard (like Starbucks) or they stick with a light cinnamon roast which Japanese people seem to have a taste for. I haven't found a happy medium at all.

There's Tully's and Starbucks here. I've seen Seattle's Best, but that was years ago. Not that they are any good, despite the name.

In general, there aren't very many good coffee roasters in Japan. None at a national level, for sure.


True that. However, Honey Coffee (new window) are good, and they sell some coffee up in Tokyo, but I wouldn't call them national. They sell through a few cafe outlets only (like a new shop in Nakameguro that they are advertising on their homepage right now). Worth a try if you can find them. But, yeah, like you said, no good ones on a national level. though I rate Tully's way above Starbucks.
 
2012-04-16 06:47:28 AM
Yet another thread about how awful Starbucks is, consisting of the six guys who have been to the six Starbucks that serve scorched coffee (if there are that many), and who think they are Real 'Merkin for saying "large" or "small" to the "cashier." Go to the gas station and eat a churro in the bathroom, you potatoheads.
 
2012-04-16 06:52:00 AM

AbbeySomeone: Please tell me you're taking a crowded public transport and not getting in a car.


I don't touch the coffee until I get into the office. I start the morning with a large iced water that I drink at the Starbucks while I get through the morning ritual of email, twitter and Google Reader.
 
2012-04-16 06:58:10 AM

ZureaL: I'm sitting in a Starbucks right now, so I'm getting a kick out of this thread

//Iced Vanilla Double shot is my drink of choice. 5 shots of espresso, half-and-half and a few pumps of vanilla, shaken, over ice


.
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Yeah, I can't drink their shiat straight up either.
 
2012-04-16 07:00:42 AM

Fizpez: I'm guessing he would be unimpressed by me using those huge cans of pre-ground Folgers or Maxwell house in my Mr. Coffee. Probably takes at least 2 weeks to a month to use a can from opening - oh and I use artificial sweetener and Coffeemate French Vanilla in their as well. Then again I don't give a rats ass what anyone else thinks about how I take my morning caffeine delivery device.


but if you don't use lots of expensive equipment which requires multiple steps and lots of time, plus pricey beans you can brag about as well as a PITA method you've perfected you lose the entire dooshbag factor. what good is a cup of morning joe without the doosh?
 
2012-04-16 07:01:48 AM
I take a hammer and whack a few coffee beans and then lick the bits right off the counter and pour boiling water in my mouth and swallow. Any other way to have coffee is farking bullshiat and tastes vile. It is acceptable to suck a cow's teat if you really need milk to go with it.

Man On Pink Corner: I have my own civet.


outstanding. Fist bump
 
2012-04-16 07:02:53 AM

sanriosucks: My coffee comes from a gas station that's well known in South Florida for their fried chicken. It sucks, and lacks cute hipster baristas like starbucks. It is only a dollar and change though, if they charge me at all.


I get 5 lbs of green beans shipped for under $40, and they last at least 4 months, and I go through at least 2 cups of coffee every day. Even if you add the electricity for the popcorn maker (roaster), electric kettle, and grinder, I think I'm still coming in at cheaper than $1 a cup, and it tastes a whole lot better.
 
2012-04-16 07:08:25 AM

Man On Pink Corner: I have my own civet.


I had a civet, but realized for that perfect cup of coffee, I couldn't trust it for consistent results. Now I just prepare the beans myself.
 
2012-04-16 07:10:41 AM

Asa Phelps: My brother and his wife both used to work for starbucks corporate, so I'm gonna posit an educated guess that he is brewing starbucks brand beans.


That makes no sense. If he used Starbucks brand, he would announce it. The fact that it's a topic "for another day" means it is non-Starbucks.

I think he is announcing that he is bigger than Starbucks.
 
2012-04-16 07:11:15 AM

david_gaithersburg: Yeah, I can't drink their shiat straight up either


I don't like any coffee black. I don't know if it's the nearly two decades of smoking or just the way coffee reacts to my body, but black coffee just gives me cotton mouth and I don't enjoy it. I can do without the sugar but it's got to at least have half and half, not milk.
 
Skr
2012-04-16 07:11:24 AM

born_yesterday: Man On Pink Corner: I have my own civet.

I had a civet, but realized for that perfect cup of coffee, I couldn't trust it for consistent results. Now I just prepare the beans myself.


You need a bidet for your civet to get consistent results.
 
2012-04-16 07:11:47 AM
How internet Starbucks Haters see their morning commuter coffee session:

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The reality:

foolishgadgets.com
 
2012-04-16 07:12:34 AM

Mr Tumnus: It's better than that. There are whole beans everywhere in the first two pictures. Then once he pushes down the plunger on the french press, the beans are gone. Did he put them in his cup? Did he eat them whole? Where did they go?

I think it's asinine that Starbucks charges $12-20 for a pound of coffee and the CEO tells people the bag goes bad a week after opening. What normal household can go through a pound of coffee every week?


Um, that's why you ask the barista to open a bag for you and measure out 1/2 lb or 1/4 lb. That's what the scale is for.
 
2012-04-16 07:15:04 AM

Man On Pink Corner: I have my own civet.


That sounds like a wise investment.

i527.photobucket.com

/Kopi Luwak is way overrated.
 
2012-04-16 07:16:27 AM

thamike: How internet Starbucks Haters see their morning commuter coffee session:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 640x424][bmr.me image 640x959]

The reality:

[foolishgadgets.com image 500x476]


Got damn that's a black brother.
 
2012-04-16 07:17:17 AM

starlost: I get up at 4:30 every morning to walk my three dogs and work out. Around 5:45 a.m. I make coffee for myself and my wife

he sounds pussy and pet whipped.


Also, how does he manage to walk the dogs and do a good cardio work out in an hour and 15 minutes? My dachshund gets pissed if we walk for less than an hour.
 
2012-04-16 07:18:13 AM

Mr Tumnus: It's better than that. There are whole beans everywhere in the first two pictures. Then once he pushes down the plunger on the french press, the beans are gone. Did he put them in his cup? Did he eat them whole? Where did they go?

I think it's asinine that Starbucks charges $12-20 for a pound of coffee and the CEO tells people the bag goes bad a week after opening. What normal household can go through a pound of coffee every week?


Photographer thought it would be "interesting" to have some coffee beans in the first few photos - it's about coffee, let's put some beans around to hit that home and liven up the frame...

Don't need them in the last frame, he's got a good 'ol cup of coffee in his hand.
Seriously, this is how photographers think. Probably because they have a moron editor who will yell at them "this doesn't say coffee to me, there's nothing but a french press there..."
 
2012-04-16 07:19:04 AM
Whar instant coffee WHAR
 
2012-04-16 07:20:57 AM

AbbeySomeone: Mr Tumnus: It's better than that. There are whole beans everywhere in the first two pictures. Then once he pushes down the plunger on the french press, the beans are gone. Did he put them in his cup? Did he eat them whole? Where did they go?

I think it's asinine that Starbucks charges $12-20 for a pound of coffee and the CEO tells people the bag goes bad a week after opening. What normal household can go through a pound of coffee every week?

Um, we do but I don't buy Starbucks. I get an organic French Roast that is 11 per lb. French press is the only way to make a decent cup of coffee.


I almost completely agree... I will say this though, try a cup made through one of these... it's every bit as good as a french press:

ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2012-04-16 07:21:06 AM

feckingmorons: There are coffee beans all over the place, four year olds are more tidy than he is.

I don't buy coffee that costs more than a buck and a half, and even that is fifty cents more than I like to spend.


Coffee around here is the same cost no matter where you go.

*bux and DD dominate the area and DD decaf tastes awful.
 
2012-04-16 07:24:21 AM

KrispyKritter: Fizpez: I'm guessing he would be unimpressed by me using those huge cans of pre-ground Folgers or Maxwell house in my Mr. Coffee. Probably takes at least 2 weeks to a month to use a can from opening - oh and I use artificial sweetener and Coffeemate French Vanilla in their as well. Then again I don't give a rats ass what anyone else thinks about how I take my morning caffeine delivery device.

but if you don't use lots of expensive equipment which requires multiple steps and lots of time, plus pricey beans you can brag about as well as a PITA method you've perfected you lose the entire dooshbag factor. what good is a cup of morning joe without the doosh?


A French press is expensive equipment? Dude, it's a glass pot with a strainer. I bet both of mine (one big, one little) cost less that your drip coffee maker. The whopping extra step of grinding my beans takes maybe 30 seconds. It sound to me like you should cut down on the (crappy) coffee and up the thorazine.
 
2012-04-16 07:30:39 AM

CeroX: ....... I will say this though, try a cup made through one of these... it's every bit as good as a french press:

[ecx.images-amazon.com image 300x300]


Agreed. Also, fresh-ground lousy coffee is better than pre-ground good coffee.
 
2012-04-16 07:42:31 AM
my current source of coffee

Link (new window)

/its very rare that I've had coffee in a Parisian restaurant and thought "wow, this is a great cup of coffee"
 
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