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(Centre Daily Times)   Not News: DUI Checkpoint. Holy FARK: The use of specialized flashlights with ethanol sensors to detect the presence of alcohol on a driver's breath   (centredaily.com ) divider line
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2012-04-15 12:03:58 PM  
Evelyn McKee, manager of the area chapter of Mothers Against Drunk Drivers, looked on late Friday as officers made contact with drivers. She said getting even one intoxicated person off the road makes a difference.

MADD are fanatics.
 
2012-04-15 12:12:03 PM  

Weaver95: MADD are fanatics.


More like a cult. And making millions doing it, not unlike the church industry.
 
2012-04-15 12:27:59 PM  
I thought the sensor flashlights had been around for a while now. I remember reading something years ago advising that you only roll your window down far enough to hand out your documents to avoid being scanned.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-04-15 12:52:43 PM  
Those flashlights have been around for at least a decade.
 
2012-04-15 01:00:04 PM  
i23.photobucket.com
 
2012-04-15 01:02:48 PM  
I see what you drank there?
 
2012-04-15 01:04:48 PM  
Now if only they'd bought flashlights that could detect little boy peener on your breath...
 
2012-04-15 01:05:23 PM  

Godscrack: Weaver95: MADD are fanatics.

More like a cult. And making millions doing it, not unlike the church industry.


Exactly, and they've gone so far from their original goal that even their founder has said they are crazy.
 
2012-04-15 01:06:06 PM  
Mugato:

Is that Saul Herschowitzsteinbeger?
 
2012-04-15 01:07:00 PM  
Sobriety checkpoints are illegal in 12 states where you have to have a reason to stop somebody that's better than, "we're going to stop everybody going this way".
 
2012-04-15 01:07:06 PM  

Weaver95: Evelyn McKee, manager of the area chapter of Mothers Against Drunk Drivers, looked on late Friday as officers made contact with drivers. She said getting even one intoxicated person off the road makes a difference.

MADD are fanatics.

 
2012-04-15 01:07:25 PM  
Illegal search. This practice must be abolished (blanket, random stops with no probable cause - i.e. pull over everyone on a road.)
 
2012-04-15 01:07:28 PM  
ZOMG THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED!1!!

Oh, wait...

June 16, 1999 - CNN - "...what you might not realize while youre looking for your wallet is that the flashlight is helping the officer smell as well as see whats inside your car..."
 
2012-04-15 01:08:06 PM  

Weaver95: Evelyn McKee, manager of the area chapter of Mothers Against Drunk Drivers, looked on late Friday as officers made contact with drivers. She said getting even one intoxicated person off the road makes a difference.

MADD are fanatics.


dammit, I found a good .gif of kyles mom but it wouldn't post so here's this
 
2012-04-15 01:09:29 PM  
Maybe if all those assholes stopped drinking and driving, these other assholes wouldn't have even the flimsiest leg to stand on to justify garbage like this.
 
2012-04-15 01:09:39 PM  
Once again I am glad that DUI checkpoints have been ruled unconstitutional in Washington. How they have been ruled legal in other states baffles me.
 
2012-04-15 01:10:22 PM  
Gargle some wiper fluid. Confuses the hell out of those detectors.
 
2012-04-15 01:10:30 PM  

SoCalSurfer: dammit, I found a good .gif of kyles mom but it wouldn't post so here's this


I like it.
 
2012-04-15 01:11:07 PM  
This is why I've installed a series of infrared LEDs in my car on rotating frequencies and duty cycles.
 
2012-04-15 01:13:02 PM  

roblarky: SoCalSurfer: dammit, I found a good .gif of kyles mom but it wouldn't post so here's this

I like it.


i need to stop with the post immediately tabs. Fail. So. Hard
 
2012-04-15 01:13:27 PM  

chaddsfarkprefect: Illegal search.


Not according to the SCOTUS.

Also, I was involved in the testing of those flashlights in about 1987-88. They're not new.
 
2012-04-15 01:14:07 PM  

Nem Wan: Sobriety checkpoints are illegal in 12 states where you have to have a reason to stop somebody that's better than, "we're going to stop everybody going this way".


I don't know how it's legal anywhere.
 
2012-04-15 01:15:34 PM  

BunkoSquad: Maybe if all those assholes stopped drinking and driving, these other assholes wouldn't have even the flimsiest leg to stand on to justify garbage like this.


No one likes a quitter.
 
2012-04-15 01:17:01 PM  

Mugato: Nem Wan: Sobriety checkpoints are illegal in 12 states where you have to have a reason to stop somebody that's better than, "we're going to stop everybody going this way".

I don't know how it's legal anywhere.


www.wpclipart.com
 
2012-04-15 01:17:16 PM  
Are the ethanol detecting flashlights like the TV detecting vans in the UK? A prop in scare tactic?
 
2012-04-15 01:17:59 PM  

CruiserTwelve: chaddsfarkprefect: Illegal search.

Not according to the SCOTUS.

Also, I was involved in the testing of those flashlights in about 1987-88. They're not new.



24 years ago ? That's some fine police work there Cruiser 12
 
2012-04-15 01:18:04 PM  

CruiserTwelve: I was involved in the testing of those flashlights.


Do you know the 5-digit command code prefix to override their shields and weapons?
 
2012-04-15 01:18:16 PM  
Just wait till cars drive themselves. Then the police will have to have "sobriety" check points much more often.
 
2012-04-15 01:19:14 PM  

propasaurus: I thought the sensor flashlights had been around for a while now. I remember reading something years ago advising that you only roll your window down far enough to hand out your documents to avoid being scanned.


I hope you enjoy your beat down.

rocketpants: This is why I've installed a series of infrared LEDs in my car on rotating frequencies and duty cycles.


And what does that do?
 
2012-04-15 01:19:46 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org


Problem solved
 
2012-04-15 01:19:47 PM  

CruiserTwelve: chaddsfarkprefect: Illegal search.

Not according to the SCOTUS.

Also, I was involved in the testing of those flashlights in about 1987-88. They're not new.


um...doesn't that violate the 5th amendment...?
 
2012-04-15 01:20:22 PM  
Don't drink and drive.


You could probably tell who does by the complainers in this thread.
 
2012-04-15 01:21:37 PM  

Giltric: Don't drink and drive.


You could probably tell who does by the complainers in this thread.


I know! If you've done nothing wrong you have nothing to fear! Amirite?
 
2012-04-15 01:22:06 PM  
i stick to a strict drink and stagger policy, If I'm going to drink, I walk or take a cab, it's not that hard people and it's cheaper than jail time.
 
2012-04-15 01:22:18 PM  
1. Get a lawyer
2. Subpoena any computer code
3. Reveal the laughable mess
4. $$$
5. Less Cop-derived profits

Seriously, why don't they take the money they spent on their little toys and put it into fund to pay for taxis called for drunk patrons by bar tenders? It would also include a free ride back to the bar to retrieve the car. We have thousands of taxi cabs the average city. Why not support local business and improve public safety?
 
2012-04-15 01:22:29 PM  

CruiserTwelve: chaddsfarkprefect: Illegal search.

Not according to the SCOTUS.

Also, I was involved in the testing of those flashlights in about 1987-88. They're not new.



True, and keep in mind when that ruling occurred, 1990: The height of MADD. In my opinion that was based on something other than the Constitution. Just because something unfortunate occurs does not necessitate legislation, like minimum sentencing.

I think you meant fleshlights.
 
2012-04-15 01:22:45 PM  

ZAZ: Those flashlights have been around for at least a decade.


Not only that, I know that there have been articles on Fark about them in the past.
 
2012-04-15 01:22:46 PM  
Why is MADD allowed to stand around at these checkpoints? I assume if the defense attorney's association wanted to be there too it would be OK?

/What to you mean no?
 
2012-04-15 01:22:51 PM  

CruiserTwelve: chaddsfarkprefect: Illegal search.

Not according to the SCOTUS.

Also, I was involved in the testing of those flashlights in about 1987-88. They're not new.


Yeah, I saw them on the local news during that same time period.
 
2012-04-15 01:22:57 PM  
Reminds me of a local Delaware County PA seat belt trap-- the cops had federal money to spend that if unused had to be returned to the government. Overtime pay for waddling around and flashing a badge.
 
2012-04-15 01:23:04 PM  

Giltric: Don't drink and drive.


You could probably tell who does by the complainers in this thread.


So your telling me that if I go out and have a couple of drinks with dinner I am now drunk driving?? Good to know guess we need to ban alcohol...cause that worked so well the first time around....

/The Flashlight only detects the presence of ethanol doesn't tell you how much
//TMYK
 
2012-04-15 01:23:10 PM  

doyner: Giltric: Don't drink and drive.


You could probably tell who does by the complainers in this thread.

I know! If you've done nothing wrong you have nothing to fear! Amirite?


The only thing we have to fear is asking what you can do for your country.
 
2012-04-15 01:23:40 PM  

Giltric: Don't drink and drive.


You could probably tell who does by the complainers in this thread.


Yeah only drunks care about their Constitutional rights.
 
2012-04-15 01:25:34 PM  

Corporate Self: 1. Get a lawyer
2. Subpoena any computer code
3. Reveal the laughable mess
4. $$$
5. Less Cop-derived profits

Seriously, why don't they take the money they spent on their little toys and put it into fund to pay for taxis called for drunk patrons by bar tenders? It would also include a free ride back to the bar to retrieve the car. We have thousands of taxi cabs the average city. Why not support local business and improve public safety?


They've already tried that for breathylizers. The industry has blocked any attempts to look at the source code, and surprisingly the courts have gone along with it. For all we know, the code could be something like
10 detect breath sample
20 display number > 0.08 to
 
2012-04-15 01:25:36 PM  
We give up a lot of our rights in order to get a driver's license. Most people don't read the fine print.
 
2012-04-15 01:25:44 PM  

Giltric: doyner: Giltric: Don't drink and drive.


You could probably tell who does by the complainers in this thread.

I know! If you've done nothing wrong you have nothing to fear! Amirite?

The only thing we have to fear is asking what you can do for your country.


WTF does that mean?
 
b3x
2012-04-15 01:26:03 PM  

doyner: Now if only they'd bought flashlights that could detect little boy peener on your breath...


Prosecuting pedophiles isn't nearly as lucrative as DUI's
 
2012-04-15 01:27:03 PM  

eas81: Giltric: Don't drink and drive.


You could probably tell who does by the complainers in this thread.

So your telling me that if I go out and have a couple of drinks with dinner I am now drunk driving?? Good to know guess we need to ban alcohol...cause that worked so well the first time around....

/The Flashlight only detects the presence of ethanol doesn't tell you how much
//TMYK


Depends on what your local or state laws consider drunk driving.

The flashlight alerts the officer that the drunk in the car needs to be breathalyzed and do a sobriety test......

/knew about them years ago
 
2012-04-15 01:27:11 PM  

portscanner: rocketpants: This is why I've installed a series of infrared LEDs in my car on rotating frequencies and duty cycles.

And what does that do?


It sends random signals to minivan DVD players as I drive by.

Also the alcohol-detecting flashlight uses an infrared sensor.
 
2012-04-15 01:27:20 PM  
The real problem is that, in this age of technology, we still sell cars that allow an inebriated driver to operate them.
 
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