I RTFA.

The thing I really took away from it - and yes, it's old news - is that Adam Yauch* has a form of cancer.


*MCA from the Beastie Boys.

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I'm thrilled that Kennedy performed with the rest of the band. He's not a half bad replacement, the guys got to play together, and the fans got to see something they'll never see again. Axl Rose is a self centered asshole.

/Cue the scene from Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back where they go from person to person kicking their ass for criticizing them on the internet. But hey, at least Rose will be late.

No mention of Izzy Stradlin? Was he there?

Your Average Witty Fark User: I'm thrilled that Kennedy performed with the rest of the band. He's not a half bad replacement, the guys got to play together, and the fans got to see something they'll never see again. Axl Rose is a self centered asshole.

Yeah some f*cking kid from Nowhere, Indiana, who rocked the motherf*cking world by storm, who had no illusions about 'it' lasting forever yet guaranteed his own survival. For the rest of his life.

/mad props, Axl
//buncha f*cking whiners you all are

urban.derelict: Your Average Witty Fark User: I'm thrilled that Kennedy performed with the rest of the band. He's not a half bad replacement, the guys got to play together, and the fans got to see something they'll never see again. Axl Rose is a self centered asshole.

Yeah some f*cking kid from Nowhere, Indiana, who rocked the motherf*cking world by storm, who had no illusions about 'it' lasting forever yet guaranteed his own survival. For the rest of his life.

/mad props, Axl
//buncha f*cking whiners you all are

Didn't realize you were a Farker, Mr. Rose.

contrapunctus: urban.derelict: Your Average Witty Fark User: I'm thrilled that Kennedy performed with the rest of the band. He's not a half bad replacement, the guys got to play together, and the fans got to see something they'll never see again. Axl Rose is a self centered asshole.

Yeah some f*cking kid from Nowhere, Indiana, who rocked the motherf*cking world by storm, who had no illusions about 'it' lasting forever yet guaranteed his own survival. For the rest of his life.

/mad props, Axl
//buncha f*cking whiners you all are

Didn't realize you were a Farker, Mr. Rose.

He's not Axl he's just the poor man's version, Kid Rock.

Axl Rose got booed at the R&R HOF induction ceremony? Gosh, it's just like he was there.

Axl cannot sing. At least not anymore. Recent live clips are horrible.

Axl did not attend specifically because he would have been required to take the stage at a specific time.

Taking the stage on time is something Mr. Rose simply will not tolerate.

No Izzy but they invite Gilby Clarke?

schpanky: No mention of Izzy Stradlin? Was he there?

No. He also wrote a letter saying he wasn't going. Duff published it on his blog. It was a bit shorter than Axl's and basically said he was waiting to see what happened, didn't like what he saw, and wasn't going.

Izzy would only go if Axl showed, plain and simple. It was their band, despite revisionist history (Slash replaced Traci Guns, after failing his audition for Poison). Izzy and Rose were the main songwriters also.

Dizzy Reed didn't go either. His wife tweeted that it wasn't worth spending 20,000$ to attend a dinner "in your honour" when half your bandmates aren't going.

It was funny seeing Gilby Clarke show up when he wasn't inducted yet Izzy, Dizzy, and Axl (who together make awesome Scrabble scores) no-showed.

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I still think the caption should say: "We got fudge and cake".

_{better flow.}

Slu: Axl cannot sing. At least not anymore. Recent live clips are horrible.

Recent live clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXAyPvAV4sM&feature=youtube_gdata_play e r

Just sayin when you make those comments links are nice.

Can't blame a guy for not wanting to go to Cleveland.

urban.derelict: Your Average Witty Fark User: I'm thrilled that Kennedy performed with the rest of the band. He's not a half bad replacement, the guys got to play together, and the fans got to see something they'll never see again. Axl Rose is a self centered asshole.

Yeah some f*cking kid from Nowhere, Indiana, who rocked the motherf*cking world by storm, who had no illusions about 'it' lasting forever yet guaranteed his own survival. For the rest of his life.

Wow, he's a regular modern day Judy Garland! Bless his heart.

I'm honestly surprised that anyone was offended by Axl Rose deciding not to join. Who cares? He basically told them, "No thanks" and people are ENRAGED. I don't get it.

FriarReb98: urban.derelict: Your Average Witty Fark User: I'm thrilled that Kennedy performed with the rest of the band. He's not a half bad replacement, the guys got to play together, and the fans got to see something they'll never see again. Axl Rose is a self centered asshole.

Yeah some f*cking kid from Nowhere, Indiana, who rocked the motherf*cking world by storm, who had no illusions about 'it' lasting forever yet guaranteed his own survival. For the rest of his life.

/mad props, Axl
//buncha f*cking whiners you all are

I hate that whole sham of a hall as much as the next guy out there, but if you're asked to go to a farking hall of fame induction as an inductee, you stop being a selfish, self-centered dick who seemingly can't deal with his ex-bandmates being popular too and show the fark up, end of story.

That's such a load of bs. Most farkers do nothing but whine about the HOF because Rush isn't in it. If it was anyone but Axl most would be loving this, but Axl brings out the haters because they blame him for breaking up the original band, despite there being many, many reasons beyond his control issues (drug use, fame, Slash trying to force him to sing specific lyrics/locking him out of the songwriting process, Izzy leaving the band early on, Duff nearly dying, Etc.).

Paul McCartney no-showed the HOF when he was fueding with the other ex-Beetles members. You didn't see the hatefest then.

"Achmed?" "Axwell?"... here to see you.

Don't be stupid.

Wayne 985: I'm honestly surprised that anyone was offended by Axl Rose deciding not to join. Who cares? He basically told them, "No thanks" and people are ENRAGED. I don't get it.

This. Not only that he did it politely.

The Sex Pistols referred to the HOF people as shiat-stains on the other hand.

I watched some youtube clips of Miles Kennedy singing some GnR songs and he's pretty good. He did really well on Rocket Queen.

Even though it's Axl Rose on tour with his version of GnR I wouldn't want to pay to see them. It's just a high ticket price cover band, and Axl seems even more temperamental than ever. I wish Axl would just reveal exactly what Slash did to him. So Slash wasn't an original member. He helped make the band what it was. Tracii Guns couldn't even be bothered to show up at rehearsals which is why Slash replaced him to begin with.

Flagg99: despite revisionist history (Slash replaced Traci Guns, after failing his audition for Poison).

Have you ever sat back and wondered what event, had it happened in your life, would have caused you to actually commit suicide? For me, that would be it. Slash, I applaud your bravery.

Flagg99: Dizzy Reed didn't go either. His wife tweeted that it wasn't worth spending 20,000$ to attend a dinner "in your honour" when half your bandmates aren't going

You'd have to be an idiot to spend $20K on a trip to Cleveland for anything.

Wayne 985: I'm honestly surprised that anyone was offended by Axl Rose deciding not to join. Who cares? He basically told them, "No thanks" and people are ENRAGED. I don't get it.

I actually would like to give him mad respect for that. The Hall is a sham anyway, just the way stars on the Hollywood Walk of Fame are. You get a nom, somebody pays for your exhibit, big deal.

The only thing I'm disappointed about in this thread is that nobody's made a Tony Wonder reference yet.



He's going for "Use Your Allusion, Too".

//hot like bread that guy baked himself into

skinink: Even though it's Axl Rose on tour with his version of GnR I wouldn't want to pay to see them. It's just a high ticket price cover band,

I've seen GnR, Slash and Velvet Revolver on tour in the last 5-6 years.

They're all cover bands.

GnR does all the old hits but at least it's Axl singing them. Slash pulls out all the old hits, but has Miles Kennedy singing them. He does a good job but it's not Axl. Velvet Revolver did the same, but because Scott Weiland was the lead singer, it sounded like Stone Temple Pilots were doing the cover. Now, STP doing GNR covers isn't half bad, but it would be 200% cooler if it sounded like GNR doing STP covers.

Six_By_Nine: Wayne 985: I'm honestly surprised that anyone was offended by Axl Rose deciding not to join. Who cares? He basically told them, "No thanks" and people are ENRAGED. I don't get it.

I actually would like to give him mad respect for that. The Hall is a sham anyway, just the way stars on the Hollywood Walk of Fame are. You get a nom, somebody pays for your exhibit, big deal.

The only thing I'm disappointed about in this thread is that nobody's made a Tony Wonder reference yet.

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He's going for "Use Your Allusion, Too".

//hot like bread that guy baked himself into

I clicked on the comments JUST to make sure this was covered. Came for Tony Wonder, leaving satisfied.

/like dating your brother's widow.

Flagg99: Paul McCartney no-showed the HOF when he was fueding with the other ex-Beetles members. You didn't see the hatefest then.

Yes, but Paul McCartney isn't a douchebag egomaniac who manipulated his bandmates into signing over total control of the band to him. Big difference.

Flagg99: Wayne 985: I'm honestly surprised that anyone was offended by Axl Rose deciding not to join. Who cares? He basically told them, "No thanks" and people are ENRAGED. I don't get it.

This. Not only that he did it politely.

The Sex Pistols referred to the HOF people as shiat-stains on the other hand.

I love that the Sex Pistols' response to the HOF (new window) is on display in the HOF.

She comes in colors everywhere: Flagg99: Wayne 985: I'm honestly surprised that anyone was offended by Axl Rose deciding not to join. Who cares? He basically told them, "No thanks" and people are ENRAGED. I don't get it.

This. Not only that he did it politely.

The Sex Pistols referred to the HOF people as shiat-stains on the other hand.

I love that the Sex Pistols' response to the HOF (new window) is on display in the HOF.

Ok, they broke the linky themselves. Jerks. Go to features and there's a list of stuff on the right.

Axl = Noel/Liam Gallagher (whomever is the dickier one)

Wayne 985: I'm honestly surprised that anyone was offended by Axl Rose deciding not to join. Who cares? He basically told them, "No thanks" and people are ENRAGED. I don't get it.

According to Axl, he'll be "dealing with the fallout for years." Sure. I honestly forget there's even a rock and roll hall of fame until they announce the new inductees once a year...even then all you hear is internet outrage over Rush not getting in. Sorry, but Axl Rose isn't relevant enough to anyone in the music industry for this controversy to even register with most people.

Wayne 985: I'm honestly surprised that anyone was offended by Axl Rose deciding not to join. Who cares? He basically told them, "No thanks" and people are ENRAGED. I don't get it.

I think it would be one thing if he was, as a solo artist, being inducted. But it's the band being inducted, and instead of being cool for one night, he's being a douche. Personally, I'm not enraged about it, as it sounds like pretty standard behavior for him.

Flagg99: Slu: Axl cannot sing. At least not anymore. Recent live clips are horrible.

Recent live clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXAyPvAV4sM&feature=youtube_gdata_play e r

Just sayin when you make those comments links are nice.

I watched this clip and then another (recent "Welcome to the Jungle" live clip). Axl's sounded better, but he still sounds pretty damn good.
As for his appearance, the guy is 50 years old. Most of the musicians (and fans, for that matter) from 25-30 years ago have probably put on some weight.

What happened to GNR after the early 90s sucks, but I would still rank Axl as one of the most talented frontmen of all time.

yes the rock and/or roll hall of fame is a joke,
but then so are GNR.

Buddy of mine was a big gnr fan and bought their music video collection dvd. As we watched them in order it was damn funny to see Axl's desperate transformation into Kurt Cobain.

The thing that really surprises me about all this, is the fact that Axl didn't pitch a fit about the other band members appearing under the name Guns 'n' Roses. I seriously thought he was going to sue them and the HoF for copyright infringement.

Spaced Lion: The thing that really surprises me about all this, is the fact that Axl didn't pitch a fit about the other band members appearing under the name Guns 'n' Roses. I seriously thought he was going to sue them and the HoF for copyright infringement.

Stop using logic, the Fark Axl Rose Hate Thread is on!

velvet_fog: Wayne 985: I'm honestly surprised that anyone was offended by Axl Rose deciding not to join. Who cares? He basically told them, "No thanks" and people are ENRAGED. I don't get it.

According to Axl, he'll be "dealing with the fallout for years." Sure. I honestly forget there's even a rock and roll hall of fame until they announce the new inductees once a year...even then all you hear is internet outrage over Rush not getting in. Sorry, but Axl Rose isn't relevant enough to anyone in the music industry for this controversy to even register with most people.

Which is why every major media outlet spent days on the story and this is the 2nd fark thread on it. And of course you took the time to comment on said irrelevant story.

Axl isn't wrong - the media will die down but some GN'R diehards are downright scary about the reunion thing. Lets face it - Pantera was never as big as GN'R and Dimebag still wound up dead at the hands of a crazed fan who blamed him for the band breaking up.

So when I see some of the frothing at the mouth trolls crying about Axl... Yeah. Years of fallout at best.

M-G: Wayne 985: I'm honestly surprised that anyone was offended by Axl Rose deciding not to join. Who cares? He basically told them, "No thanks" and people are ENRAGED. I don't get it.

I think it would be one thing if he was, as a solo artist, being inducted. But it's the band being inducted, and instead of being cool for one night, he's being a douche. Personally, I'm not enraged about it, as it sounds like pretty standard behavior for him.

Can you explain how he's being a douche? It's not like he said don't induct the other guys in fact he said he'd never take away their moment. He just didn't want to show up and wind up stuck in a situation where he'd have to reunite with certain people he no longer wants to work with.

That's fair. If my old employer calls me back and says "hey we've got an award for you but the deal is you have to do one last job with that old co-worker you hated" then I'm probably not going.

Just because he's a public figure doesn't mean he owes the world everything they wanted. His divorce comment was spot on - it's life. Things end. The scary part is how badly a lot of people react over a farkin rock n' roll band.

Flagg99: FriarReb98: urban.derelict: Your Average Witty Fark User: I'm thrilled that Kennedy performed with the rest of the band. He's not a half bad replacement, the guys got to play together, and the fans got to see something they'll never see again. Axl Rose is a self centered asshole.

Yeah some f*cking kid from Nowhere, Indiana, who rocked the motherf*cking world by storm, who had no illusions about 'it' lasting forever yet guaranteed his own survival. For the rest of his life.

/mad props, Axl
//buncha f*cking whiners you all are

I hate that whole sham of a hall as much as the next guy out there, but if you're asked to go to a farking hall of fame induction as an inductee, you stop being a selfish, self-centered dick who seemingly can't deal with his ex-bandmates being popular too and show the fark up, end of story.

That's such a load of bs. Most farkers do nothing but whine about the HOF because Rush isn't in it. If it was anyone but Axl most would be loving this, but Axl brings out the haters because they blame him for breaking up the original band, despite there being many, many reasons beyond his control issues (drug use, fame, Slash trying to force him to sing specific lyrics/locking him out of the songwriting process, Izzy leaving the band early on, Duff nearly dying, Etc.).

Paul McCartney no-showed the HOF when he was fueding with the other ex-Beetles members. You didn't see the hatefest then.

I suppose it's more about who is less likable.

I think it's
Axl -> RRHOF -> IBS -> pond scum -> Rush -> Any Living Beatle.

FuryOfFirestorm: Flagg99: Paul McCartney no-showed the HOF when he was fueding with the other ex-Beetles members. You didn't see the hatefest then.

Yes, but Paul McCartney isn't a douchebag egomaniac who manipulated his bandmates into signing over total control of the band to him. Big difference.

To be fair the rest of his bandmates were still on the junk and circling the drain - it's not like the rest of them were even able to function. I don't blame him for wanting control.

And if he's such a douchbag egomaniac why'd both Izzy and Duff tour with him in recent years? Why has Tommy Stinson - a guy who was already a rock legend - stuck in there for 14 years when a mats reunion could score him easier money (plus the Soul Asylum gig)?

The bottom line is there's one guy Axl won't play with. The same guy has blown through 3 of the best rock singers around in Axl,Weiland, and Corey Taylor. Who many guys get shots with even -one- guy of that calibre? I hope Myles works out for him because I think this is his last chance.

I'm sure Axl is a dick - he's said it himself. He's perpetually late to everything, a control freak/perfectionist, and downright difficult. And I just described every farking rock singer ever. Why people are shocked is beyond me.

FuryOfFirestorm: Flagg99: Paul McCartney no-showed the HOF when he was fueding with the other ex-Beetles members. You didn't see the hatefest then.

Yes, but Paul McCartney isn't a douchebag egomaniac who manipulated his bandmates into signing over total control of the band to him. Big difference.

I can't believe I'm going to defend William Bailey on anything, but...

The facts are that Slash had already died once, Duff was drinking so much that his pancreas effin' exploded, Adler was already out of the band...I mean, I can totally see William's POV that the whole band was on the verge of collapse & needed to secure as much control over the situation as possible.

That said, Axl is still a POS.

The outrage was admitting Gun and Roses WITHOUT Axl Rose.

Petulant, vindictive, fat. Whatever you want to call him, Axl Rose wrote the songs that made GnR, and his vocals (however you felt about them) defined the sound of GnR.

Motörhead without Lemmy. Queen without Freddy. The Spiders from Mars without Ziggy. That's what GnR is without Axl.

/any R&RHOF without YES, Deep Purple, Rush, The Moody Blues and Heart is a joke by any measure.

Ironic t-shirt wearing from 1993.

No Axl? No Izzy?! It'd be like inducting the Beatles without Paul... Oh wait.

Flagg99: FriarReb98: urban.derelict: Your Average Witty Fark User:

Paul McCartney no-showed the HOF when he was fueding feuding with the other ex-Beetles Beatles members. You didn't see the hatefest then.

Yes, but Paul McCartney isn't a douchebag egomaniac who manipulated his bandmates into signing over total control of the band to him. Big difference.


HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHH cough cough.

epic derp fail on both counts there.

McCartney sure tried to get the Beatles business under one umbrella and had Lennon not blown most of it's equity on clothing stores,Apple Corps and a lot of garbage, he mighta.
But is McCartney a douchebag egomaniac?

HE IS SIR PAUL MCCARTNEY OF THE FARKING BEATLES FFS.

but this is about what a fat talent less pig Axhole Rose is. What's his real name?
Sunshine Puffpants or something?
Marion Mufflerting? Marvin Milchnick?

Mascara Metal Sucks.

FuryOfFirestorm: Flagg99: Paul McCartney no-showed the HOF when he was fueding with the other ex-Beetles members. You didn't see the hatefest then.

Yes, but Paul McCartney isn't a douchebag egomaniac who manipulated his bandmates into signing over total control of the band to him. Big difference.

WHich, frankly, makes his move more assholish.

The Rock and Roll Hall of fame?


She's in.


They're not.

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame truly is, as the Sex Pistols said, a piss stain.

Add me to the list of those who think Guns 'n' Roses doesn't belong in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I think they were a great band, but I don't think they were an important band. Donovan doesn't belong, either. At this point, Wenner is just trolling Rush, Yes, and KISS by letting a bunch of good but unimportant artists in. FFS, the Jam isn't even in!

Izzy was the most important member of Guns and Roses.

Discuss.

Robert1966: Add me to the list of those who think Guns 'n' Roses doesn't belong in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I think they were a great band, but I don't think they were an important band. Donovan doesn't belong, either. At this point, Wenner is just trolling Rush, Yes, and KISS by letting a bunch of good but unimportant artists in. FFS, the Jam isn't even in!

Kiss it the most overrated band in history.

I was made for loving you baby?

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Ironic t-shirt wearing from 1993.

Is the chick on the right from Hanson?

Robert1966: Add me to the list of those who think Guns 'n' Roses doesn't belong in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I think they were a great band, but I don't think they were an important band.

They practically single-handedly ended the "hair metal" music genre. That by itself is grounds for enshrinement.

Broktun: Izzy was the most important member of Guns and Roses.

Discuss.

Yes. Yes he is.

Who is (was) more important, (to their band) Izzy, or David Knopfler?

I heard Rush hasn't been inducted yet.

Funbags: The outrage was admitting Gun and Roses WITHOUT Axl Rose.

Petulant, vindictive, fat. Whatever you want to call him, Axl Rose wrote the songs that made GnR, and his vocals (however you felt about them) defined the sound of GnR.

Motörhead without Lemmy. Queen without Freddy. The Spiders from Mars without Ziggy. That's what GnR is without Axl.

/any R&RHOF without YES, Deep Purple, Rush, The Moody Blues and Heart is a joke by any measure.

GNR without Slash is just another hair metal band. I don't see anyone beating down the Hall's doors to put Cinderella or Warrant in the RRHOF.

Funbags: Robert1966: Add me to the list of those who think Guns 'n' Roses doesn't belong in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I think they were a great band, but I don't think they were an important band.

They practically single-handedly ended the "hair metal" music genre. That by itself is grounds for enshrinement.

Hrmm... no. It's pretty much agreed grunge killed hair metal, and that was led by Nirvana. Hate all you want, it's true.

Fatty McGee & Five Guys Who Aren't Slash are an abomination. It's even worse that he extorted the real band members out of the rights to the name.

Myles Kennedy is a MUCH better singer than Axl, and most importantly, is a cool guy, very professional, happy to be there, and arrives on time. And he doesn't look like RIchie Cunningham with Predator dreds bolted onto his head.

Axl wasn't taking a principled stand like Ozzy. He was throwing a biatch fit because he didn't have absolute control.

Steven Adler wearing an Eddie Trunk tee shirt to his R&RHoF induction is a MUCH bigger, more rebellious middle finger than Axl's latest tantrum.

Your Average Witty Fark User: Funbags: The outrage was admitting Gun and Roses WITHOUT Axl Rose.

Petulant, vindictive, fat. Whatever you want to call him, Axl Rose wrote the songs that made GnR, and his vocals (however you felt about them) defined the sound of GnR.

Motörhead without Lemmy. Queen without Freddy. The Spiders from Mars without Ziggy. That's what GnR is without Axl.

/any R&RHOF without YES, Deep Purple, Rush, The Moody Blues and Heart is a joke by any measure.

GNR without Slash is just another hair metal band. I don't see anyone beating down the Hall's doors to put Cinderella or Warrant in the RRHOF.

I voted your post "Funny" because its funny that you don't seem to know what hair metal is/was. GnR was never hair metal. They were its antithesis.

Slash is a solid rock guitarist, but honestly, I saw them live in concert when Buckethead had taken over, and he had 10x Slash's musicianship, and he was merely Slash's first replacement.

Your Average Witty Fark User: Funbags: Robert1966: Add me to the list of those who think Guns 'n' Roses doesn't belong in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I think they were a great band, but I don't think they were an important band.

They practically single-handedly ended the "hair metal" music genre. That by itself is grounds for enshrinement.

Hrmm... no. It's pretty much agreed grunge killed hair metal, and that was led by Nirvana. Hate all you want, it's true.

I would say that GNR's role in killing hair metal is pretty under-stated. That said, i don't think GNR's too different from Motley Crue in terms of style, but I do think they made their peers cut out some of the stupider bullshiat of the genre.


I think Nirvana was the final blow for the genre, but there other bands that helped tear down hair metal. I would also add Jane's Addiction and Metallica as bands that don't quite get the credit they deserve for killing hair metal.

STRYPERSWINE: Fatty McGee & Five Guys Who Aren't Slash are an abomination. It's even worse that he extorted the real band members out of the rights to the name.

Myles Kennedy is a MUCH better singer than Axl, and most importantly, is a cool guy, very professional, happy to be there, and arrives on time. And he doesn't look like RIchie Cunningham with Predator dreds bolted onto his head.

Axl wasn't taking a principled stand like Ozzy. He was throwing a biatch fit because he didn't have absolute control.

Steven Adler wearing an Eddie Trunk tee shirt to his R&RHoF induction is a MUCH bigger, more rebellious middle finger than Axl's latest tantrum.

who are these mascara queens you are ranting about?

these guys are into other guys and all that right? thats why they dress like that right?
and the people who like this here stuff yer ranting about, listen to that music because the guys they like listen to it and wear spandex and manscara right? and these guys like other guys right?

so..this is like sports for guys who act straight but are actually mascara queens right?

you seem like a big expert so i just wanna know ...right?

Your Average Witty Fark User: Funbags: Robert1966: Add me to the list of those who think Guns 'n' Roses doesn't belong in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I think they were a great band, but I don't think they were an important band.

They practically single-handedly ended the "hair metal" music genre. That by itself is grounds for enshrinement.

Hrmm... no. It's pretty much agreed grunge killed hair metal, and that was led by Nirvana. Hate all you want, it's true.

Grunge was the next "thing" after hair bands, that's why its often attributed to killing it, but there was a lengthy gap when hair bands weren't selling anymore. The genre was well played out before Mother Love Bone (the progenitor of Grunge) caught fire.

Broktun: Izzy was the most important member of Guns and Roses SUCK.

Discuss.

Discussed

Funbags: Your Average Witty Fark User: Funbags: Robert1966: Add me to the list of those who think Guns 'n' Roses doesn't belong in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I think they were a great band, but I don't think they were an important band.

They practically single-handedly ended the "hair metal" music genre. That by itself is grounds for enshrinement.

Hrmm... no. It's pretty much agreed grunge killed hair metal, and that was led by Nirvana. Hate all you want, it's true.

Grunge was the next "thing" after hair bands, that's why its often attributed to killing it, but there was a lengthy gap when hair bands weren't selling anymore. The genre was well played out before Mother Love Bone (the progenitor of Grunge) caught fire.

this.

hair metal became a parody of the parody it was.

mascara musak was killed by Spinal Tap more than it was killed by Grunge.

besides, once all the strippers/hookers/pornstars in LA stopped paying for their boyfriends spandex addictions and started hiding their makeup, they were a lost cause.

also, when your subculture is a bunch of unemployed transvestites listing to awful music whose sole reason for living is to find a hairdresser and move into her house, it ain't gonna last long.

you can't blame a genre for killing a genre.
mustard does not trump ketchup.

blame transvestites with bad taste in musak.


LOL

"When the Children Cry" killed hair metal.

FuryOfFirestorm: Flagg99: Paul McCartney no-showed the HOF when he was fueding with the other ex-Beetles members. You didn't see the hatefest then.

Yes, but Paul McCartney isn't a douchebag egomaniac who manipulated his bandmates into signing over total control of the band to him. Big difference.

...talk about your revisionist history...

/If the 'net were as popular back then as it is now, Paul would've gotten the same reaction.

IlGreven: FuryOfFirestorm: Flagg99: Paul McCartney no-showed the HOF when he was fueding with the other ex-Beetles members. You didn't see the hatefest then.

Yes, but Paul McCartney isn't a douchebag egomaniac who manipulated his bandmates into signing over total control of the band to him. Big difference.

...talk about your revisionist history...

/If the 'net were as popular back then as it is now, Paul would've gotten the same reaction.

Doubt it. It was the middle of yet another Beatle lawsuit. At that point Paul was touring again and had well recovered from the crap Yoko threw at him in the 80s, done to ensure John wasn't forgotten. As if she needed to do that for John Farking Lennon. Christ I hate Yoko.

limboslam: The Rock and Roll Hall of fame?


She's in.


They're not.

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame truly is, as the Sex Pistols said, a piss stain.

Rush is a band if like if it weren't for Geddy's voice and Rush fans.

They insist upon themselves

I'd like if it weren't for... Etc

FTFM

Snapper Carr: BumpInTheNight: [24.media.tumblr.com image 397x484]

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Grrrr....EVERY Axl Rose thread has that picture, and it's driving me nuts!* Can't we come up with some new material besides "Axl is fat hurrr hurrr"? And the thing is, I can't STAND Axl Rose. I can never listen to any Guns 'n Roses song because of his farking banshee voice. So I hate the guy as much as anyone, but we can do better than posting the same stupid picture over and over, can't we?

/I must be cranky today
//* So a pirate walks into a bar with a steering wheel sticking out his pants...

shower_in_my_socks: FeedTheCollapse: I think Nirvana was the final blow for the genre, but there other bands that helped tear down hair metal. I would also add Jane's Addiction and Metallica as bands that don't quite get the credit they deserve for killing hair metal.


I believe it was Warrant who said it was Nirvana that killed them, and I'm sure the other hair bands would agree.

The poster saying GNR destroyed hair bands is crazy. GNR was just a slightly harder, slightly less ridiculous looking 80's rock band. That doesn't make them the anti-hair band - not by a freaking mile. The grunge explosion, led by Nirvana, is what made the hair bands look like the fake, dated, idiotic-looking groups that they had grown into. That music was radically different than what GNR and pretty much every big band before them was doing. We can't say GNR killed the hair bands and not Nirvana when GNR's own demise also occured as soon as Nirvana, Pearl Jam, etc blew up. Where was GNR after 1992? They made The Spaghetti Incident and then went on "hiatus." I know there were other factors, but that's a pretty big coincidence.

Nirvana and grunge were certainly the final blow, but there was plenty of other acts that helped do away with Hair metal before Nevermind was released, one of which was GNR. You also seem to forget the Use Your Illusion albums were pretty damn popular and even came out the same year as Nevermind. I'm not denying that GNR wasn't too different from other hair metal bands, I just think they toned down some of the more annoying aspects. Much like anything related to music of that era, I think Nirvana gets way more credit then they really deserve as there were other bands who helped destroy the hair metal genre (again, see also: the emerging popularity of Jane's Addiction, Metallica, and even Soundgarden.)


tl; dr: Grunge killed hair metal, but its death was in the works for at least a few years prior to 1991.

shower_in_my_socks: FeedTheCollapse: I think Nirvana was the final blow for the genre, but there other bands that helped tear down hair metal. I would also add Jane's Addiction and Metallica as bands that don't quite get the credit they deserve for killing hair metal.


I believe it was Warrant who said it was Nirvana that killed them, and I'm sure the other hair bands would agree.

The poster saying GNR destroyed hair bands is crazy. GNR was just a slightly harder, slightly less ridiculous looking 80's rock band. That doesn't make them the anti-hair band - not by a freaking mile. The grunge explosion, led by Nirvana, is what made the hair bands look like the fake, dated, idiotic-looking groups that they had grown into. That music was radically different than what GNR and pretty much every big band before them was doing. We can't say GNR killed the hair bands and not Nirvana when GNR's own demise also occured as soon as Nirvana, Pearl Jam, etc blew up. Where was GNR after 1992? They made The Spaghetti Incident and then went on "hiatus." I know there were other factors, but that's a pretty big coincidence.

Yeah, that was me.

Look, I acknowledge that there were other metal/rock artists besides GnR whose success didn't hinge on how much hair spray and make-up they applied. Hell, Metallica's best output was in the mid-80's, and they were as far from the "glam rock" image as anyone. But, for whatever reason, they didn't have the commercial appeal of GnR when Appetite dropped.

Whatever you think about their "style", to call them "slightly harder, slightly less ridiculous looking" is a massive understatement.

If anything, GnR's deconstructed sound and de-emphasis on theatrics and showmanship and increased emphasis on stark, hard riffs and instrumentation was not unlike what grunge offered to the receptive masses. They definitely lost their way by the time Use Your Illusion dropped, but how does that make them any different that the many rock performers undone by the drugs and the success?

FeedTheCollapse: I'm not denying that GNR wasn't too different from other hair metal bands

I get that you are essentially agree with me, but how anyone listen to Appetite and not find vast, wholesale stylistic differences from bands like Winger, or White Lion, or Nelson? When I listen to "Rocket Queen" or "Mr Brownstone", and I don't hear even a tinge of the cartoonish cheese-pop-metal present in "Dr Feelgood", or "Wait".

Must be the crazy pills...

So he didn't want to show up. It's not like it's the first time he was a no-show for a gig. Kind of seems appropriate.

Rush sucks, by the way.

Funbags: FeedTheCollapse: I'm not denying that GNR wasn't too different from other hair metal bands

I get that you are essentially agree with me, but how anyone listen to Appetite and not find vast, wholesale stylistic differences from bands like Winger, or White Lion, or Nelson? When I listen to "Rocket Queen" or "Mr Brownstone", and I don't hear even a tinge of the cartoonish cheese-pop-metal present in "Dr Feelgood", or "Wait".

Must be the crazy pills...



to me, it's all in the delivery: GNR was less fluff, but not too sonically dissimilar from their contemporaries. Their music was certainly better, though.

Broktun: Izzy was the most important member of Guns and Roses.

Discuss.

Izzy released 9 albums in the time it took Axl to make Chinese Democracy, and two more since. I think that right there shows where the songwriting prowess lies.

urban.derelict: Your Average Witty Fark User: I'm thrilled that Kennedy performed with the rest of the band. He's not a half bad replacement, the guys got to play together, and the fans got to see something they'll never see again. Axl Rose is a self centered asshole.

Yeah some f*cking kid from Nowhere, Indiana, who rocked the motherf*cking world by storm, who had no illusions about 'it' lasting forever yet guaranteed his own survival. For the rest of his life.

/mad props, Axl
//buncha f*cking whiners you all are

From your Fark profile:

"Morons will not be tolerated, under any condition."

Dude, stop being so hard on yourself...

James Scameron: McCartney sure tried to get the Beatles business under one umbrella and had Lennon not blown most of it's equity on clothing stores,Apple Corps and a lot of garbage, he mighta.
But is McCartney a douchebag egomaniac?

Consolidating the Beatles under the Apple Corp isn't the same as throwing a hissy-fit and threatening to bail on the band if they didn't sign over the name and rights to you.

In addition, Paul didn't make a big deal out of being a no-show at the RRHOF. He didn't attend because he was locking horns with Yoko over song writing credits. Paul already had enough shiat going on with Michael Jackson buying out the Beatles catalog from under him.

The fact that Izzy didn't show up proves Axl had the right idea.

FuryOfFirestorm: James Scameron: McCartney sure tried to get the Beatles business under one umbrella and had Lennon not blown most of it's equity on clothing stores,Apple Corps and a lot of garbage, he mighta.
But is McCartney a douchebag egomaniac?

Consolidating the Beatles under the Apple Corp isn't the same as throwing a hissy-fit and threatening to bail on the band if they didn't sign over the name and rights to you.

In addition, Paul didn't make a big deal out of being a no-show at the RRHOF. He didn't attend because he was locking horns with Yoko over song writing credits. Paul already had enough shiat going on with Michael Jackson buying out the Beatles catalog from under him.

yes. this is true.
"stealing outright" might be more apt of the Michael Jacko Wacko Beatles Catalogue strategy.

/semantics
//different from general semantics
///GNR/AXL ROSE/GIRLY METAL FOR TRANNIES SUCKS

Flagg99: Slu: Axl cannot sing. At least not anymore. Recent live clips are horrible.

Recent live clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXAyPvAV4sM&feature=youtube_gdata_play e r

Just sayin when you make those comments links are nice.

When did Osama Bin Laden join up with Axel?

BumpInTheNight: He's not Axl he's just the poor man's version, Kid Rock.

I'm not axl rose but you can all f*ck off if you don't like it, he doesn't owe anybody anything. He's a smalltown kid from nowhere who went to the west coast to dislodge the whole hair band arena which had gotten to be downright pitiful.

And 25 years later, who's still touring, nonstop? Guns n' Roses. Where's ...uh, motley crue, mr big, slaughter, tesla, def lepperd, they're all washed up, including I saw a pic of Steven Adler, put his face in the dictionary next to 'HEROIN JUNKIE'

(compare him to axl rose; despite the clowns trying to abuse axl for gaining weight, he's lost it again; lets see how you tip the scales, 50 years old getting more and hotter woman than any of you)

Slash has hundreds of guitars. Axl Rose has 1 voice. Why can't people realize that Axl had no allusions to becoming some old rocker with the same old band, and (read duff's book) none of them wanted to fall into the trap that left one of their collective idols, Aerosmith, in the poor house.

Did you people even listen to Illusion 1/2?

/axl said 'this was ours and i'm taking it'
//you people need to get a grip; it's his
/you think Slash wants to be playing the same 12 solos over and over again the rest of his life?

FuryOfFirestorm: James Scameron: McCartney sure tried to get the Beatles business under one umbrella and had Lennon not blown most of it's equity on clothing stores,Apple Corps and a lot of garbage, he mighta.
But is McCartney a douchebag egomaniac?

Consolidating the Beatles under the Apple Corp isn't the same as throwing a hissy-fit and threatening to bail on the band if they didn't sign over the name and rights to you.

In addition, Paul didn't make a big deal out of being a no-show at the RRHOF. He didn't attend because he was locking horns with Yoko over song writing credits. Paul already had enough shiat going on with Michael Jackson buying out the Beatles catalog from under him.

As was pointed out by Axl himself in the online chats a few years ago, the "forcing the band to sign over the name" argument is bs. It's a fairy tale. Lots of people believe it because he makes a good bad guy but the reality is that would be a contract signed under duress and it never would have held up in court. Given how often Slash has dragged him to court (over licensing songs in movies for example) you would expect that to have happened by now.. If that story were true.

The reality is Guns and Roses was named after Axl Rose and Tracii Guns. Tracii didn't last and went back to L.A. Guns and Axl wound up with the most claim to the name. Yes he took control of it legally in the 90s but he also got clean first. Slash was a trainwreck then but we all seem to forget that.

N' Roses. Stupid autocorrect.

urban.derelict: BumpInTheNight: He's not Axl he's just the poor man's version, Kid Rock.

I'm not axl rose but you can all f*ck off if you don't like it, he doesn't owe anybody anything. He's a smalltown kid from nowhere who went to the west coast to dislodge the whole hair band arena which had gotten to be downright pitiful.

And 25 years later, who's still touring, nonstop? Guns n' Roses. Where's ...uh, motley crue, mr big, slaughter, tesla, def lepperd, they're all washed up, including I saw a pic of Steven Adler, put his face in the dictionary next to 'HEROIN JUNKIE'

(compare him to axl rose; despite the clowns trying to abuse axl for gaining weight, he's lost it again; lets see how you tip the scales, 50 years old getting more and hotter woman than any of you)

Slash has hundreds of guitars. Axl Rose has 1 voice. Why can't people realize that Axl had no allusions to becoming some old rocker with the same old band, and (read duff's book) none of them wanted to fall into the trap that left one of their collective idols, Aerosmith, in the poor house.

Did you people even listen to Illusion 1/2?

/axl said 'this was ours and i'm taking it'
//you people need to get a grip; it's his
/you think Slash wants to be playing the same 12 solos over and over again the rest of his life?

Actually, Motley Crue had several very successful arena tours in the past decade and launched their own festival.

As for Adler, he looks the way he does because he had a stroke.

And given that Slash, Duff, and Matt went on to put out 2 platinum albums with Scott Weiland, on top of numerous other projects in the time between when the band broke up and when Chinese Democracy crash landed, I don't think they're complaining.

Also, in what world do you live in where Aerosmith is in the poor house? Every album they put out goes platinum and they still sell out at every venue they play. Their best work obviously ended in the 80s, but they're still a very successful band.

Broktun: Robert1966: Add me to the list of those who think Guns 'n' Roses doesn't belong in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I think they were a great band, but I don't think they were an important band. Donovan doesn't belong, either. At this point, Wenner is just trolling Rush, Yes, and KISS by letting a bunch of good but unimportant artists in. FFS, the Jam isn't even in!

Kiss it the most overrated band in history.

I was made for loving you baby?

Hall of FAME
Not Hall of Good

Flagg99: The reality is Guns and Roses was named after Axl Rose and Tracii Guns. Tracii didn't last and went back to L.A. Guns and Axl wound up with the most claim to the name. Yes he took control of it legally in the 90s but he also got clean first. Slash was a trainwreck then but we all seem to forget that.

The name comes from Axl's former band, Hollywood Rose (look them up on Youtube for some of the originals that made it to LIES) and L.A. Guns which had Tracii Guns who was some well-to-do kid who couldn't hack their first long haul (read duff's book) where the original four had that commitment out of their respective sh*tholes; car broke down, buncha leather clad rockers in 100+ degree heat, etc.

Axl put that sh*t together and Axl took it apart.

Chinese Democracy didn't crash land, it's just not one of the original classics and there's no way it could ever be; it's a lot more intricate than the original 'stomp stomp stomp stomp' type beats and *gasp* i find myself listening to some of the tracks and liking them.

And it got me a free 20oz Dr Pepper.

delathi: Broktun: Robert1966: Add me to the list of those who think Guns 'n' Roses doesn't belong in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I think they were a great band, but I don't think they were an important band. Donovan doesn't belong, either. At this point, Wenner is just trolling Rush, Yes, and KISS by letting a bunch of good but unimportant artists in. FFS, the Jam isn't even in!

Kiss it the most overrated band in history.

I was made for loving you baby?

Hall of FAME
Not Hall of Good

By that logic, Guns deserved to get in purely on the fact that they still have the biggest selling debut album ever.

don't damn me and don't idolize the ink or i've failed in my intentions can you find the missing link
our only validation comes in living our own lives vicarious existence is a farking waste of time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaleVTkQc8s
Don't Damn Me (w/lyrics) -->

Okay, so, this was G'n'R


and this was The Beastie Boys


And some people are arguing that this wasn't a travesty of a mockery of a sham of a mockery of a travesty of two mockeries of a sham?

Can't blame Axl or anyone else for staying the hell away. What. An. Embarrassment.

^^^^
Photoshop contest anyone?

Flagg99: As was pointed out by Axl himself in the online chats a few years ago, the "forcing the band to sign over the name" argument is bs. It's a fairy tale. Lots of people believe it because he makes a good bad guy but the reality is that would be a contract signed under duress and it never would have held up in court. Given how often Slash has dragged him to court (over licensing songs in movies for example) you would expect that to have happened by now.. If that story were true.

I'm not calling Axl a liar, but it's basically been his word vs. that of Slash, Izzy, and Duff, so the story has been tilted against Axl for some time now. And some people sign bad contracts because their band mate says, "Trust me, it's in your best interests!"

iii--EE--ii--EEE--iiiiiii---EEE-iiiii-EEEE--OOO----ohohohoh-I-EEEEE- OOOOOO ----yeaaaaaheeeee yeah EEE OOOO--- OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO> Bud ump bump.

Not to throw water on one particular argument, but the reason the Beastie Boys didn't perform is that Adam Yauch is recovering from cancer, and they didn't want to go on as a 2-man band. So they declined to perform without him and a (very lame) tribute performance was put together.

Not quite the same as the Guns n' Roses (minus half the band) that performed the same night. Hate on Axl all you like, but leave the Beasties out of it. If you examine their entire catalog, from Pollywog Stew to their latest album, they have as much a right to be there as GnR, and far more of a right than farking Madonna.

Axl Rose........Is that the chick that sounded like she was singing at gunpoint after getting kicked in the uterus?

Your Average Witty Fark User: Funbags: Robert1966: Add me to the list of those who think Guns 'n' Roses doesn't belong in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I think they were a great band, but I don't think they were an important band.

They practically single-handedly ended the "hair metal" music genre. That by itself is grounds for enshrinement.

Hrmm... no. It's pretty much agreed grunge killed hair metal, and that was led by Nirvana. Hate all you want, it's true.

Guns n Roses opened the door. Nirvana happened to be standing there.

I wish I could blame fame on the reason Rose is such a douche, but I know it's not (probably hasn't helped matters, granted). The choir teacher at the high school I attended my freshman year used to teach in Laffayette and happened to have him in her class back when. He was a self absorbed, arrogant little douche that refused to take any form of direction. He was regularly disruptive, and just an all around horrible human being, just like he is now.

The man could of had a stellar career (instead of just the great few years before the band unraveled) with his talent, but unfortunately it's almost a waste because of his complete and utter inability to work with anyone.

Who cares about these divas and hacks? Not enough talking about ZZ Top performing Freddie King.

theurge14: [i.imgur.com image 500x358]

Ironic t-shirt wearing from 1993.

/threadjack

Did you know the Urge are starting to do shows in St Louis again?

limboslam: The Rock and Roll Hall of fame?

[i486.photobucket.com image 413x600]
She's in.

[i486.photobucket.com image 400x299]
They're not.

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame truly is, as the Sex Pistols said, a piss stain.

/thread.

Looks like Slash has put on a bit 'o weight as well.

Flagg99: FriarReb98: urban.derelict: Your Average Witty Fark User: I'm thrilled that Kennedy performed with the rest of the band. He's not a half bad replacement, the guys got to play together, and the fans got to see something they'll never see again. Axl Rose is a self centered asshole.

Yeah some f*cking kid from Nowhere, Indiana, who rocked the motherf*cking world by storm, who had no illusions about 'it' lasting forever yet guaranteed his own survival. For the rest of his life.

/mad props, Axl
//buncha f*cking whiners you all are

I hate that whole sham of a hall as much as the next guy out there, but if you're asked to go to a farking hall of fame induction as an inductee, you stop being a selfish, self-centered dick who seemingly can't deal with his ex-bandmates being popular too and show the fark up, end of story.

That's such a load of bs. Most farkers do nothing but whine about the HOF because Rush isn't in it. If it was anyone but Axl most would be loving this, but Axl brings out the haters because they blame him for breaking up the original band, despite there being many, many reasons beyond his control issues (drug use, fame, Slash trying to force him to sing specific lyrics/locking him out of the songwriting process, Izzy leaving the band early on, Duff nearly dying, Etc.).

Paul McCartney no-showed the HOF when he was fueding with the other ex-Beetles members. You didn't see the hatefest then.

Is there a reason Rush isn't in yet?

/Not at all up on HOF induction and selection procedures
/Did not know Slash auditioned for Poison

too_amuzed: Is there a reason Rush isn't in yet?

This guy

Someone mentioned Mötley Crüe and Tesla being washed up. Crüe are one of the biggest summer tours every year. Tesla are on tour right now, will tour with the Scorpions this summer, and thanks to DYI, are making more money today than the did in their 80s heyday. And they're consistently one of the finest live acts you'll ever see.

too_amuzed: Flagg99: FriarReb98: urban.derelict: Your Average Witty Fark User: I'm thrilled that Kennedy performed with the rest of the band. He's not a half bad replacement, the guys got to play together, and the fans got to see something they'll never see again. Axl Rose is a self centered asshole.

Yeah some f*cking kid from Nowhere, Indiana, who rocked the motherf*cking world by storm, who had no illusions about 'it' lasting forever yet guaranteed his own survival. For the rest of his life.

/mad props, Axl
//buncha f*cking whiners you all are

I hate that whole sham of a hall as much as the next guy out there, but if you're asked to go to a farking hall of fame induction as an inductee, you stop being a selfish, self-centered dick who seemingly can't deal with his ex-bandmates being popular too and show the fark up, end of story.

That's such a load of bs. Most farkers do nothing but whine about the HOF because Rush isn't in it. If it was anyone but Axl most would be loving this, but Axl brings out the haters because they blame him for breaking up the original band, despite there being many, many reasons beyond his control issues (drug use, fame, Slash trying to force him to sing specific lyrics/locking him out of the songwriting process, Izzy leaving the band early on, Duff nearly dying, Etc.).

Paul McCartney no-showed the HOF when he was fueding with the other ex-Beetles members. You didn't see the hatefest then.

Is there a reason Rush isn't in yet?

/Not at all up on HOF induction and selection procedures
/Did not know Slash auditioned for Poison

No idea. You would think, as a band that inspired an entire genre (prog rock) pretty much, they'd be sho-ins. I'm pretty sure the selection process is private.

In any case, it makes me wonder... a band like Tool (based on album sales/popularity/impact/influence) could be on the ballot in a few more years. I think 2015. There's no way they should be in before Rush so...

2and4: Your Average Witty Fark User: Funbags: Robert1966: Add me to the list of those who think Guns 'n' Roses doesn't belong in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I think they were a great band, but I don't think they were an important band.

They practically single-handedly ended the "hair metal" music genre. That by itself is grounds for enshrinement.

Hrmm... no. It's pretty much agreed grunge killed hair metal, and that was led by Nirvana. Hate all you want, it's true.

Guns n Roses opened the door. Nirvana happened to be standing there.

I think it's so cute how some of you guys want to "school" me on this topic. Omitting the big, obvious bands, I don't need to be told about Mother Love Bone, Green River, Mudhoney, Tad, Gruntruck, The Melvins, Screaming Trees, Skin Yard etc... I'm intimately familiar with the "Seattle Sound", and who was a part of the movement.

Look- Appetite For Destruction has sold approximately 28 million albums worldwide. Nevermind has sold over 30 million albums worldwide. Appetite came out four years prior to Nevermind, and thus has had a four year head start.

I like Appetite too. It's a strong album, even today. And while GnR may have had a hand in killing hair metal, Nirvana was the final, definitive nail in the coffin. And I stand by my assertion that GnR is just hair metal without Slash.

Can't post pics easily from the phone, but he's rocking a full can of aquanet in the welcome to the jungle video. And his Use Your Illusion look was often more Miami Vice than metal.

GNR best band in the world from 1987-1992.

Nirvana didn't kill GNR. The Use Your Illusions albums came in 1991, same as Nevermind.

GNR then went to the longest tour ever in the history of rock. 1991-1993. Which is why they didn't record anything else and by the time the finished the tour, the musical landscape was very different. Heck, Cobain blew his brains off in early 1994, so GNR ended up doing a covers album.

Also, GNR sounded nothing like hair metal. NOTHING.

Hair metal was VERY dependent on synthetizers. GNR had a SOLID blues base. They were sleaze rock + blues. Van Halen's Jump is orders of magnitude more hair metal than anything GNR put out. There's not a SINGLE GNR song that uses synthetizers, EVERYTHING is organic/analog: real drums, real guitars, real bass, real voices. Not a shed of electronics.

Flagg99: No idea. You would think, as a band [Rush] that inspired an entire genre (prog rock) pretty much, they'd be sho-ins. I'm pretty sure the selection process is private.



ಠ_ಠ


that said, it's because they're Prog that they're not in the Hall of Fame.


rocky_howard: Hair metal was VERY dependent on synthetizers. GNR had a SOLID blues base. They were sleaze rock + blues. Van Halen's Jump is orders of magnitude more hair metal than anything GNR put out. There's not a SINGLE GNR song that uses synthetizers, EVERYTHING is organic/analog: real drums, real guitars, real bass, real voices. Not a shed of electronics.


Not sure if serious.


though I've never really associated Hair Metal with synthesizers either.

Your Average Witty Fark User: 2and4: Your Average Witty Fark User: Funbags: Robert1966: Add me to the list of those who think Guns 'n' Roses doesn't belong in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I think they were a great band, but I don't think they were an important band.

They practically single-handedly ended the "hair metal" music genre. That by itself is grounds for enshrinement.

Hrmm... no. It's pretty much agreed grunge killed hair metal, and that was led by Nirvana. Hate all you want, it's true.

Guns n Roses opened the door. Nirvana happened to be standing there.

I think it's so cute how some of you guys want to "school" me on this topic. Omitting the big, obvious bands, I don't need to be told about Mother Love Bone, Green River, Mudhoney, Tad, Gruntruck, The Melvins, Screaming Trees, Skin Yard etc... I'm intimately familiar with the "Seattle Sound", and who was a part of the movement.

Look- Appetite For Destruction has sold approximately 28 million albums worldwide. Nevermind has sold over 30 million albums worldwide. Appetite came out four years prior to Nevermind, and thus has had a four year head start.

I like Appetite too. It's a strong album, even today. And while GnR may have had a hand in killing hair metal, Nirvana was the final, definitive nail in the coffin. And I stand by my assertion that GnR is just hair metal without Slash.

Your assertation is wrong. Stand by it if you like but Izzy Stradlin was never a hair metal guy, he was a straight up rock guy. Guns also showed a punk influence (It's So Easy) helped along by Duff.

Yes Nirvana was the final nail in the coffin but if it wasn't them it would have been Alice in Chains or one of the other big four. Hair metal however lost all legitimacy because of Appetite - an album that was a lot more raw and real than anything Tesla or Bang Tango or Poison was going to do.

I'd suggest looking at the video for Welcome to the Jungle also. That's the one time the band has their hair done up - but notice the Axl "character" doesn't. At the end you see him with just straight long hair. It's almost like that was the moment they said "yeah here's what you're used to but we aren't that."

I love Nirvana but hair metal needed no help dying out. The legit bands from the 80s survived however.

FeedTheCollapse: Not sure if serious.


though I've never really associated Hair Metal with synthesizers either.

That's a piano...

rocky_howard: FeedTheCollapse: Not sure if serious.


though I've never really associated Hair Metal with synthesizers either.

That's a piano...

... yes, and because there is a full orchestra in the video, it is totally a full orchestra used in the actual studio.

rocky_howard: FeedTheCollapse: Not sure if serious.


though I've never really associated Hair Metal with synthesizers either.

That's a piano...

Piano, keyboarded instrument that facilitates keys moving hammers striking strings to make a noise. Legit, takes talent to play.

Synthesizer, keyboarded instrument that facilitates keys activates an electrical waveform to make a noise. Garbage, chimpanzees could play.

urban.derelict: Where's ...uh, motley crue, mr big, slaughter, tesla, def lepperd,

The Crue played Red Rocks a few years ago. Awesome show, awesome venue. Def Leppard is going to headline the Pepsi Center in a few months. Largest indoor venue here in Denver. Tesla and Slaughter have also been through Denver in the last 5 years.

GnR? Well, I love GnR but they played at a 6000 seat former hockey arena out in the burbs.