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2012-04-14 09:50:19 PM
Legislative intent -- 1986 c 93: "It is the intent of the legislature, in this 1985 [1986] amendment of RCW 46.61.100, that the left-hand lane on any state highway with two or more lanes in the same direction be used primarily as a passing lane." [1986 c 93 § 1.]
 
2012-04-14 09:50:44 PM

Silly Jesus: JPINFV: Scruffinator: Pepe Roni: Slower traffic to the right isn't the law. It's my understanding that it's a "rule of the road" (an understood courtesy). Also, it's common sense. If the speed limit is 55 and someone wishes to go faster just move over. Acting like everyone else should be subjected to your control (held up behind your slow ass) is pretty telling.

It varies from state to state. Some states have "stay right except to pass" in law. Other states describe it as you did. At any rate it's the polite thing to do. Does somebody else doing 15MPH over the limit slow you down? No? Get the fark over.

/that last part not directed at you, just, you know, in general

Why should I care about the wants of someone who is trying the break the law?

/Traffic infractions are criminal cases in California.
//The more you know.

Their breaking of the law doesn't negatively impact you (hold you up etc.). Your breaking of the law does. They win.


That law does not work that way.

"Because look what he did" is not a valid defense for breaking the law.
 
2012-04-14 09:52:51 PM

JosephFinn: I drive in the left lane at the speed limit. That's proper driving. If you want to drive slower, get to the left. If you want to drive faster than the speed limit, than you're not worth considering.


So you're the asshole who's always driving 65 in the number one lane? You're the reason there are accidents in L.A. you dumb moron. 65 is for the OUTSIDE lane. Anyone who gets rear-ended doing 65 in the fast lane deserves a horrible lingering death.

Seriously, people who run slow in the fast lanes on the freeway probably cause more accidents than they prevent, because of people swerving around them, plus blocking access to the carpool lanes.
 
2012-04-14 09:53:05 PM

Silly Jesus: Hogging the passing lane should be a capital offense.

 
2012-04-14 09:57:41 PM

JosephFinn: I drive in the left lane at the speed limit. That's proper driving. If you want to drive slower, get to the left. If you want to drive faster than the speed limit, than you're not worth considering.


THANK GOD I CAN FINALLY TELL YOU TO fark THE fark OFF YOU MOTHERfarkING farkFACED farkTARD! I farkING HATE YOU AND THANKS FOR TAKING YEARS OFF MY LIFE. GTFO OF THE farkING WAY YOU farkING ASSFACED BAG OF BALL MUNCHERS.
 
2012-04-14 10:01:35 PM
If I'm stuck behind somebody driving super slow in the left hand lane just to be a jerk I do the following three things

1) I write down their license plate number, then pass them using any means possible.
2) Slow down to a speed that is unbearable even for them and do not allow them to pass
3) Report them as an aggressive driver at the DOT website.
 
2012-04-14 10:03:08 PM

JosephFinn: OgreMagi: JosephFinn: I drive in the left lane at the speed limit. That's proper driving. If you want to drive slower, get to the left. If you want to drive faster than the speed limit, than you're not worth considering.

You are breaking the law. The law is "slower traffic use right lanes". It says nothing about the speed you are going. If you are slower, you MUST MOVE YOUR STUPID ASS TO THE RIGHT.

Show me where in the Rules of the Road it says that I need to speed to pass people in the left lane: http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/publications/pdf_publications/dsd_a1 12.pdf If I am slower, it is because people are speeding so that's their own damn fault.


Your question is worded strangely, so I'm not sure if this is what you are asking or not, but in Illinois you have to stay to the right unless you are actively passing another vehicle. Regardless of your or their speed.

Link (new window)
 
2012-04-14 10:07:07 PM

Warlordtrooper: Silly Jesus: JPINFV: Scruffinator: Pepe Roni: Slower traffic to the right isn't the law. It's my understanding that it's a "rule of the road" (an understood courtesy). Also, it's common sense. If the speed limit is 55 and someone wishes to go faster just move over. Acting like everyone else should be subjected to your control (held up behind your slow ass) is pretty telling.

It varies from state to state. Some states have "stay right except to pass" in law. Other states describe it as you did. At any rate it's the polite thing to do. Does somebody else doing 15MPH over the limit slow you down? No? Get the fark over.

/that last part not directed at you, just, you know, in general

Why should I care about the wants of someone who is trying the break the law?

/Traffic infractions are criminal cases in California.
//The more you know.

Their breaking of the law doesn't negatively impact you (hold you up etc.). Your breaking of the law does. They win.

That law does not work that way.

"Because look what he did" is not a valid defense for breaking the law.


I'm not using this as a legal argument, ding dong. It was mostly facetious, but I think that it is a valid test of who is the bigger a-hole if both are breaking the law, and of who in society should "win."

I'd argue that the person justifying their illegal act by holding up someone else who is committing an illegal act is the bigger a-hole than the guy who may be speeding but just wants to be on his way.

Speeding = Illegal
Blocking the left lane = Illegal + holding everyone up

The lane blocker is the douchebag.
 
2012-04-14 10:09:28 PM

Pfactor: I'm fascinated by the number of people who actively WANT to be shot in a road rage incident. Related question: if a lane-blocking, brake-checking douchebag gets shot, does she leak water?


Does it have to be a she? And if it had been a he, would a gun had come out? And what's wrong with lane blocking the merge butt-heads that want to jump the line by 20 cars in mostly stopped traffic? Break checking is stupid though. Just take foot off of gas and drop to actual speed limit, and set cruise. Lean back in the seat and enjoy the mirror show of frustration of the tailgater (lip read, sign-language, etc.). But most of all? Be a nice driver by staying right unless passing when traffic thickens.
 
2012-04-14 10:11:11 PM

Spazmojack: JosephFinn: I drive in the left lane at the speed limit. That's proper driving. If you want to drive slower, get to the left. If you want to drive faster than the speed limit, than you're not worth considering.

THANK GOD I CAN FINALLY TELL YOU TO fark THE fark OFF YOU MOTHERfarkING farkFACED farkTARD! I farkING HATE YOU AND THANKS FOR TAKING YEARS OFF MY LIFE. GTFO OF THE farkING WAY YOU farkING ASSFACED BAG OF BALL MUNCHERS.


You realize that Viagra and a hooker will relieve the tension that you are going through, right?
 
2012-04-14 10:12:37 PM

bim1154: krafty420: If you can't tailgate then how else are you supposed to intimidate slow drivers into pulling over

You won't intimidate me, I'll do all possible to piss you off and there isn't a farking thing you can do about it.


Pull in front of you and break check you so hard you almost go off the road.
 
2012-04-14 10:22:11 PM

bim1154: krafty420: If you can't tailgate then how else are you supposed to intimidate slow drivers into pulling over

You won't intimidate me, I'll do all possible to piss you off and there isn't a farking thing you can do about it.


See, and people like you are the reason I don't tailgate or even care if people are driving slow in the left lane. I get in the right lane and speed past them. I don't flash high beams, tailgate, or even hesitate because I know it doesn't matter a damned bit. Yeah, you're creating a hazardous situation driving slow in the left lane, by why should I give a fark about you?

Seriously_seriously:
Pull in front of you and break check you so hard you almost go off the road.

I've wanted to do that to people before... and while I'm sure it would feel super satisfying, two wrongs don't make a right... it's not like they'll ever stop being douchebag drivers. They get a satisfying kick out of knowing they are pissing off everyone around them and creating a hazardous situation... imo the safest bet is to get as far from them as possible.
 
2012-04-14 10:35:16 PM

Hyjamon: rtaylor92: I have a lot of respect for the people with the nuts to use their lights to get people to move over. I've been like 10th in line to pass a truck and a guy will come up behind me and start working his lights at me. I proceed to move over even though I'm thinking, good luck with all that, but sure enough, he just keeps doing it to each car, and each one moves over and he moves right up the line. By the time he finally got up to the lead car who was slowing us all down, that car had cleared the truck but still....that takes some serious balls and I have a lot of respect for that.

Don't get me wrong, I've done the light flashing thing to remind people to move over but never when you're coming up on a long line and the car directly in front of you isn't the one causing the problem.

but your behavior shows that his/her technique works, so why should he not use it anymore?


I think you're misunderstanding my post, I was saying I respect his doing it, think it's effective and wish I had the balls to do the same.
 
2012-04-14 10:36:11 PM
This concept of a "passing lane" does not exist in the state of California. What we have is the "I'm doing 5 mph below the speed limit, thus I deserve to drive solely in the far left lane for the entire duration of my drive" lane. Unless you're TRYING to be a jerk, there's no reason to cruise in the left lane when others obviously want to pass.

Unless you're trying to be a jerk, at least. I did have a few sessions of "Make the Beamer Driver Pull Out His Hair" which involves doing everything in your power to keep a BMW from passing you. Usually, when there's two lanes, you just ride nder the speed limit in the left lane until he goes to pass you, then speed up so he gets stuck behind a slower car and pulls back behind you. Rinse and repeat until he either manages to get around you, pulls off the freeway, or rams your pos car (in my case, an old Ford Escort).

My record was 45 minutes (14 fwy between Santa Clarita and Palmdale). It was pointless, mean, and I really should feel bad for doing it... But I just couldn't stop laughing.
 
2012-04-14 10:37:18 PM
There's no such thing as a "passing lane".

The speed limit is the same for all the lanes, and I simply prefer to drive 2-3 mph below the posted limit, in the far left lane. Problem?
 
2012-04-14 10:40:40 PM

cautionflag: Pet Peeve: I drive in the right lane with my cruise control on. When I catch a car and pull into the left lane to pass, I have to stomp the gas to pass the car I caught up with because they sped up when I changed lanes. Even worse, the ones are the ones that speed up and pull away as I'm pulling out to pass. I drive a lot of interstate miles and this happens in every state. But the one thing I have noticed is that if there is a car driving in the left lane at the speed limit (or less), it always seems to have a NC plate :(

//lives in NC


Part of that, albeit only a part, and just something for you to consider, is the fact that you may be leaving their draft and bumping into the same air that they are. I drive a lot of interstate and highway miles in rental cars, and two vehicles with similar hardware or software, that have the cruise set to within a few mph of each other, will have you in the front-of-the-line dance that becomes apparent over time.

/maybe
 
2012-04-14 10:54:45 PM
Facts:

Driving laws exist primarily to keep everyone safe and alive (and to generate revenue, but I digress.)

Lower highway speed limits do not correlate strongly with lower injury rates.

Everyone adhering to conventional behavior on the road-- no matter how much it twists your little balls around-- means more consistency and fewer surprises on the highway. This in turn actually does lead to safer driving conditions for everyone involved.

tl;dr: The righteous man respects lane conventions without regard for the law. Please see Weeners for a helpful flowchart of said conventions.
 
2012-04-14 10:56:00 PM
Weeners = P-o-st numero uno.

Damn you, ridiculous filter.
 
2012-04-14 10:58:05 PM
It's been a while since I've had a Farker swear, in all deadly seriousness, to come and murder me and my children in my sleep but not before forcing me to watch as he rapes my mother (or, if she's passed, the recently disinterred corpse of my mother), so I'll admit that I occasionally find myself in the left lane while driving not too terribly much more than the speed limit.

Have at it, boys! Here, I'll get you started. I'm worse than Hitler, I'm a giant festering vagina, what if Jesus had come back to earth but cut himself and was bleeding to death and needed to get to the hospital...
 
2012-04-14 11:01:09 PM

Silly Jesus: JosephFinn: OgreMagi: JosephFinn: I drive in the left lane at the speed limit. That's proper driving. If you want to drive slower, get to the left. If you want to drive faster than the speed limit, than you're not worth considering.

You are breaking the law. The law is "slower traffic use right lanes". It says nothing about the speed you are going. If you are slower, you MUST MOVE YOUR STUPID ASS TO THE RIGHT.

Show me where in the Rules of the Road it says that I need to speed to pass people in the left lane: http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/publications/pdf_publications/dsd_a1 12.pdf If I am slower, it is because people are speeding so that's their own damn fault.

Your question is worded strangely, so I'm not sure if this is what you are asking or not, but in Illinois you have to stay to the right unless you are actively passing another vehicle. Regardless of your or their speed.

Link (new window)


"(d) Upon an Interstate highway or fully access controlled freeway, a vehicle may not be driven in the left lane, except when overtaking and passing another vehicle. "

And since I am driving the speed limit, I am passing people going below the speed limit. One law does not authorize me to break another law by speeding.
 
2012-04-14 11:10:05 PM
I just hold down the car horn until people in the left lane move out of the way. It works like a charm.
 
2012-04-14 11:10:42 PM

JosephFinn: Silly Jesus: JosephFinn: OgreMagi: JosephFinn: I drive in the left lane at the speed limit. That's proper driving. If you want to drive slower, get to the left. If you want to drive faster than the speed limit, than you're not worth considering.

You are breaking the law. The law is "slower traffic use right lanes". It says nothing about the speed you are going. If you are slower, you MUST MOVE YOUR STUPID ASS TO THE RIGHT.

Show me where in the Rules of the Road it says that I need to speed to pass people in the left lane: http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/publications/pdf_publications/dsd_a1 12.pdf If I am slower, it is because people are speeding so that's their own damn fault.

Your question is worded strangely, so I'm not sure if this is what you are asking or not, but in Illinois you have to stay to the right unless you are actively passing another vehicle. Regardless of your or their speed.

Link (new window)

"(d) Upon an Interstate highway or fully access controlled freeway, a vehicle may not be driven in the left lane, except when overtaking and passing another vehicle. "

And since I am driving the speed limit, I am passing people going below the speed limit. One law does not authorize me to break another law by speeding.


How does speeding have anything to do with this?

If there isn't someone to the right of you, or going to be so very soon, then you are in the wrong lane. Speed is not a factor.
 
2012-04-14 11:26:44 PM
Left-lane passing-only conventions work well only in rural areas. Once you're in an urban area, with close interchanges, left exits, and the like, the bandwidth perspective comes into play.

One highway I use for my commute is three lanes wide. There's an on-ramp a quarter-mile before a cloverleaf interchange where the right lane becomes exit-only. So the center lane becomes the right lane, which now contains drivers who want to take the exit immediately over the bridge. They now have to deal with cars entering onto the bridge from the other main route who want to get in that right lane.

I want to continue on over the bridge and remain on my route. Which lane do you think I'm in?

Yes, the left lane. Bandwidth, people.

/And I have a bottleneck merge three miles later. For whatever reason, everyone plays nice there.
 
2012-04-14 11:31:52 PM

Litig8r: I don't get upset at people blocking the left lane anymore.



Me neither. If I did, I'd get upset every day on every drive for the rest of my life and that's the kind of pattern I like to avoid.
 
2012-04-14 11:34:40 PM

grumman94: Silly Jesus: BeatrixK: There is a special place in hell reserved for those dickweeds who, when a lane is closed off and there is a merge lane, speed up and cut off those who have waited their turn. I seriously get stabby when someone does that.

Yes, I am one of those coonts who will drive half in and half outta that lane so your entitled ass can't get passed. I've been known to flash a boob as a 'thank you' to truckers who do that for those of us in the corrent lane.

The real problem is with the idiots who let them over. Stop letting them over and let them sit there trying to merge for an hour and they will eventually stop doing that shiat. I always do my part to keep them from getting over.

Agreed. It pisses me off like no other when the guy in front of me lets someone in. I want to get out of the car and tell both of them off.


I once hit the car in front of me to prevent some cutter from merging in ahead of me. Not my proudest moment.
 
2012-04-14 11:37:02 PM

Funbags: There's no such thing as a "passing lane".

The speed limit is the same for all the lanes, and I simply prefer to drive 2-3 mph below the posted limit, in the far left lane. Problem?


Yeah. The problem is you're a piece of shiat. I would wish you ill in your life, but I suspect such a deliberately nasty person already has a terrible life or else you wouldn't be trying to hurt others.
 
2012-04-14 11:37:37 PM

LincolnLogolas: This concept of a "passing lane" does not exist in the state of California. What we have is the "I'm doing 5 mph below the speed limit, thus I deserve to drive solely in the far left lane for the entire duration of my drive" lane. Unless you're TRYING to be a jerk, there's no reason to cruise in the left lane when others obviously want to pass.

Unless you're trying to be a jerk, at least. I did have a few sessions of "Make the Beamer Driver Pull Out His Hair" which involves doing everything in your power to keep a BMW from passing you. Usually, when there's two lanes, you just ride nder the speed limit in the left lane until he goes to pass you, then speed up so he gets stuck behind a slower car and pulls back behind you. Rinse and repeat until he either manages to get around you, pulls off the freeway, or rams your pos car (in my case, an old Ford Escort).

My record was 45 minutes (14 fwy between Santa Clarita and Palmdale). It was pointless, mean, and I really should feel bad for doing it... But I just couldn't stop laughing.


I will admit, I did that once for about ten miles down a three-lane highway. I was in a little Dodge beater with a spiffy V-6, and while the rest of us are doing 70-73mph, this my-daddy-bought-me-this-Eclipse-for-my-17th-birthday d-bag with a sideways hat comes roaring up doing over 95mph and starts veering wildly across lanes to get around very sparse traffic. Seeing his d-baggery in the rearview and within a quarter mile of a truck, I sped up in the left lane and matched with the truck. He was stuck until he screamed down the next exit, and while it was pretty aggressive and petty of me, I knew instinctively that he was a d-bag, and thus outside the rules and civility offered to others.

/Fun fun fun fun! >:D
 
2012-04-14 11:37:46 PM
I feel like I've come home. So many of these complaints, I must say a half dozen times a day commuting.

I am also from the DC area and there really are two types of driver; the slow jerk and the fast jerk. I trend towards the faster of those two (I'd like to think I'm not a jerk, but when everyone else is one, it is pretty much impossible to avoid). The passing lane, zipper, keeping the person who drags his feet from passing you, the person who speeds up when you try to pass, these are all among big pet peeves of mine. I also find that people tend to struggle to maintain a speed, and often hit the brakes as they approach a traffic signal, even if it is green.

But then sometimes, I wonder if the worst part of driving is the other drivers, or rather the engineering that goes into road design. Roads left in conditions like swiss cheese, traffic signals that are in no way synced (Old Town Alexandria is actually the exception, that light patterns there are superb), traffic signals on roads that really should only have off-ramps, and too few lanes on roads that have a lot of traffic. It always seems like every road around here would be perfectly designed, if it had existed ten years before its completion. No foresight whatsoever and even less maintenance. I routinely curse the politicians who took the money out of transportation in northern Virginia.

It's a shame, because even as I learned to drive around here, I actually used to like to drive. But there is nowhere around here that I can find myself enjoying a drive anymore. Now I'm just disappointed. And when I entered this thread, I thought I would enjoy some kvetching about poor drivers. Probably best I end here, or I will never end this comment; there are simply too many bad drivers and poor road designs and not enough space in the entire intertubes to be able to cover it all.
 
2012-04-14 11:39:39 PM

semiotix: It's been a while since I've had a Farker swear, in all deadly seriousness, to come and murder me and my children in my sleep but not before forcing me to watch as he rapes my mother (or, if she's passed, the recently disinterred corpse of my mother), so I'll admit that I occasionally find myself in the left lane while driving not too terribly much more than the speed limit.

Have at it, boys! Here, I'll get you started. I'm worse than Hitler, I'm a giant festering vagina, what if Jesus had come back to earth but cut himself and was bleeding to death and needed to get to the hospital...


You're not worse than Hitler. But clearly something bad has happened to you that you enjoy frustrating and inconveniencing strangers for no reason. Only you know what that is, I suspect. Try therapy.
 
2012-04-14 11:40:42 PM

cfffffgagffacfacfacfacfacccccfcaaffff: butt-nuggets: In Houston Texas, no matter where you are or where you are going, or what time it is, there is always some a-hole behind you that wants to go faster

Well I have more important places to be than you do, obviously.


This is why David G. Burnet invented the maneuver of moving the fark over to the right for faster traffic

/or maybe that was Lamar
//been a while since seventh grade
 
2012-04-14 11:44:00 PM
so, just after the freeway onramp on the way home from work, theres a multiple freeway bottleneck that happens because two lanes are broken off specifically to deal with the two additional freeway interchange traffic that would clog up the remaining lanes of the first freeway.

so you have two lanes designated to go to those freeways (as well as a "oh here go back to the first freeway" bit for folks getting on where i do) as well as a passing lane/freeway exit for another street.

i see no reason to use the offramp street exit to get as far ahead of the traffic bottleneck as I can and merge 20ish cars ahead of where I would be if I'd tried to merge as quickly as possible.

So yeah, I speed up and force my way in at the front.

what now, biatches?
 
2012-04-14 11:49:12 PM

semiotix: It's been a while since I've had a Farker swear, in all deadly seriousness, to come and murder me and my children in my sleep but not before forcing me to watch as he rapes my mother (or, if she's passed, the recently disinterred corpse of my mother), so I'll admit that I occasionally find myself in the left lane while driving not too terribly much more than the speed limit.

Have at it, boys! Here, I'll get you started. I'm worse than Hitler, I'm a giant festering vagina, what if Jesus had come back to earth but cut himself and was bleeding to death and needed to get to the hospital...


Same here, but as long as you anticipate and move over when someone wants to pass, then you're not any of those things.
 
2012-04-15 12:32:38 AM

eddiesocket: Yeah. The problem is you're a piece of shiat. I would wish you ill in your life, but I suspect such a deliberately nasty person already has a terrible life or else you wouldn't be trying to hurt others.


What an angry, miserable life you must lead.

Here's some friendly advice: get up 5 minutes earlier than usual. That way, those of us who have "terrible lives" and "hurt others" won't make you break speed limit laws to get to your destination on time.
 
2012-04-15 12:44:16 AM
only 11%? why don't i believe that
 
2012-04-15 12:56:56 AM

Warlordtrooper: etobian: There are some interchanges where I must take the leftmost lane temporarily because d-bags entering or exiting the highway use the MIDDLE lane as an extended on or off ramp.

Also, sometimes you need to take the left lane because of "move over" laws, or because there's a left exit ahead. Around here (Mass.), if you don't take the left lane a mile before the exit, you're not going to be able to take that exit.

I hate the move over laws. Even more so when the asshats in the center lane don't let you merge into them. So you have the choice of breaking the law or getting into a car accident by breaking the law.


The alternative is to slow down to 20 under the speed limit. It's annoying, but not as hard as changing lanes.
 
2012-04-15 12:58:55 AM

eddiesocket: Funbags: There's no such thing as a "passing lane".

The speed limit is the same for all the lanes, and I simply prefer to drive 2-3 mph below the posted limit, in the far left lane. Problem?

Yeah. The problem is you're a piece of shiat. I would wish you ill in your life, but I suspect such a deliberately nasty person already has a terrible life or else you wouldn't be trying to hurt others.


He's right about the limit though. The list of reasons for you to be driving 80 in a 70 is pretty short.
 
2012-04-15 01:01:33 AM
INC CSM

Visited some WoW friends this last weekend and I had the displeasure to experience the worst driver I've ever met. I've never had such terrible car sickness. This gal kept swerving the wheel left and right while going straight, would COMPLETELY turn her head backward to check her blind spot to change lanes, and then would abruptly change lanes like it was a life or death decision. And on top of that, on a stretch of road where there were few vehicles and 4-5 lanes, she would speed up behind a person and just follow them really close (as in, I couldn't see the car's license plate in front of us) and not change lanes for miles EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS NO ONE BEHIND US. On one occasion there were 2 ladies in the vehicle in front of us, and they were both looking back at us, wondering WTF was going on and my "friend" kept tailgating them! She had no idea what she was doing!

So TL;DR some biatches are too stupid to know what tailgating *is* nor how to not do it.

I hate bad drivers.
 
2012-04-15 01:04:20 AM
Gotta love the assholes that clog the left lane by going 30mph when driving east while the sun is rising. And the people that cruise in the left lane at 63mph during rush hour.......Wait, actually I hate those idiots. Get the fark out of the way. One day I'm going to catch a road rage case or develop an aneurism.
 
2012-04-15 01:05:40 AM

JosephFinn: I drive in the left lane at the speed limit. That's proper driving. If you want to drive slower, get to the left. If you want to drive faster than the speed limit, than you're not worth considering.


Then you are in the wrong lane. Your job is not to enforce the speed laws, your job is to follow them. and the law says that the left lane is for passing. If you are not passing, you are in the wrong lane. It is really quite simple. Move to the left to pass, return to the right for cruising, when passing isn't necessary.

Your respective state Drivers Handbook will mimic what I just told you. By being inflexible in your lane choice, you have become part of the problem. and you are worth considering, for a charge of "Impeding the flow of traffic"

Have a great day, learn more about driving
 
2012-04-15 01:10:50 AM

Warlordtrooper: I love these threads. They defy common sense logic. People complaining that the people ahead of them are breaking the law because they won't move over and allow them to break the law by exceeding the speed limit.

It doesn't matter what lane you are in if the person ahead of you is going the speed limit, it doesn't matter since you are not supposed to be going any faster than that anyway.


If you really want to control other drivers, become a cop... otherwise you are just a vigilante. Hint: That's against the law too.
This applies to other posters saying similar things.
 
2012-04-15 01:13:17 AM
I am from Europe where most people know how to drive, unlike the USA. I see a number of systemic issues here, which vary by state, but are generally a problem all over:

People driving too far to the left - notably, going well under the speed limit in the middle lane when the slow lane is empty, thus forcing middle lane traffic to the left and holding everyone up. For this single reason, the capacity of US interstates is a lot less than the same number of lanes in Europe. Even 18 wheeler's do it. So do Austin ISD school buses. An entire lane is wasted. I once had a middle aged black woman in San Antonio pull onto 610 in front of me going 40 - I moved into the middle lane to make it easy for her to get on, she comes straight into my lane and I had to stand on the brakes and then duck into the slow lane. W T F ? I sometimes think driving examiners in Texas are afraid to fail minorities who can't even achieve the pathetic standards of the state test, for fear of being called racist.

American drivers have no concept of speed and distance - here in Texas if you are 100ft away, they pull out in front of you, whether you are going 20 or 60.

No-one groks merging. To be fair, this is done less than perfectly even in the UK. It is very simple - merging while moving avoids a jam, stopping completely at the cones creates one. Only place I have driven where people all know how to merge is West Germany.

Lack of due care and attention. Talking on the phone, eating cheeseburgers, makeup, you name it.

About the "people speeding up while being passed" issue. This is unconscious - best solution is a quick car; the beater I drive to work has updated brakes, suspension and tyres, will do 0-60 in 5.3s and is worth about $3k. I don't get upset when it gets hit, which happens every 3 years or so - last time was in a car park while stationary lol My weekend car is a lot quicker :)

If I am not in a hurry, and there is no traffic, I will sometimes get in front of a left lane hogger and lift off the gas and gently slow down until they get over - I call it Weeding the Fast Lane or Taking a Deduction on the Idiot Tax. About 5% of them will doggedly stay there down to even 20 mph, or deliberately pop back into the fast lane as soon as they can like little corks of farktardery. Only solution I can think of is for traffic engineers to add a lane on the left and remove one on the right every few miles.

The best advice upthread is not to let it get you wound up - the majority of Americans have no clue how to drive a motor vehicle and never will, and your anger will not help them learn, it just gets you more frustrated, so chill out and put on the radio.
 
2012-04-15 01:16:26 AM

Warlordtrooper: OgreMagi: JosephFinn: I drive in the left lane at the speed limit. That's proper driving. If you want to drive slower, get to the left. If you want to drive faster than the speed limit, than you're not worth considering.

You are breaking the law. The law is "slower traffic use right lanes". It says nothing about the speed you are going. If you are slower, you MUST MOVE YOUR STUPID ASS TO THE RIGHT.

You are complaining because his "breaking the law" is an annoyance and prevents you from breaking the law. Think about how stupid your logic is for one god damn second. You are bashing people for "breaking the law" because you want to break the law.


Your logic has determined that you ARE GOING to break the law, so break the law that causes the most damage. Then analyze what you did to put yourself in the "break the law or break the law" situation.
Take responsibility for yourself, let the cops handle the rest
 
2012-04-15 01:18:54 AM
Bonus: in Mass the lane discipline is so bad that you get what I call Full Lane Inversion ... left lane is the slowest, right lane is empty. Once drove from Boston to Cape Cod with the cruise set at 90 in he slow lane, didn't have to lift more than twice.
 
2012-04-15 01:19:11 AM
Being tailgated does not imply that you're blocking the passing lane. I've often been tailgated in the rightmost lane by someone who couldn't be bothered to use the wide-open lane to the left to pass me.
 
2012-04-15 01:24:47 AM

ParaHandy: I am from Europe where most people know how to drive


This is where I stopped reading. Euros can't even decide the correct side of the road to drive, much less win a war without significant American involvement. I'd sooner take motoring advice from Inuits.
 
2012-04-15 01:26:07 AM

Funbags: eddiesocket: Yeah. The problem is you're a piece of shiat. I would wish you ill in your life, but I suspect such a deliberately nasty person already has a terrible life or else you wouldn't be trying to hurt others.

What an angry, miserable life you must lead.

Here's some friendly advice: get up 5 minutes earlier than usual. That way, those of us who have "terrible lives" and "hurt others" won't make you break speed limit laws to get to your destination on time.


I have some advice, if you want to go the speed limit get your stupid ass into the slow lane. Speed limits are for revenue not safety.
 
2012-04-15 01:26:11 AM
the majority of Americans have no clue how to drive a motor vehicle and never will, and your anger will not help them learn, it just gets you more frustrated, so chill out and put on the radio.

Sad but true. It really boils down to a cultural issue. We let just about anyone who registers a pulse out on the road, with only a very minimal amount of training. Things don't have to be this way, but there doesn't seem to be much hope that it will ever change.
 
2012-04-15 01:32:56 AM

Pepe Roni: Warlordtrooper: I love these threads. They defy common sense logic. People complaining that the people ahead of them are breaking the law because they won't move over and allow them to break the law by exceeding the speed limit.

It doesn't matter what lane you are in if the person ahead of you is going the speed limit, it doesn't matter since you are not supposed to be going any faster than that anyway.

Slower traffic to the right isn't the law. It's my understanding that it's a "rule of the road" (an understood courtesy). Also, it's common sense. If the speed limit is 55 and someone wishes to go faster just move over. Acting like everyone else should be subjected to your control (held up behind your slow ass) is pretty telling.


It is the law in Texas, Ohio, Tennesee, West Virginia and Kentucky, as well as in Britain, Europe and former British or European colonies - In short, in the world, it IS the law.
 
2012-04-15 01:36:05 AM

Howlin Mad Murphy: I have some advice, if you want to go the speed limit get your stupid ass into the slow lane


The "slow lane" is as much of a canard as the "passing lane". All lanes of traffic have the same speed limit applied to them.

True, merging and exiting takes place in the right-most lanes, but that just means those precious left lanes you want to speed defy the law in are for those who aren't merging/exiting, and want to proceed at the safest available speed, which is the legally posted speed limit.
 
2012-04-15 01:36:07 AM

Repo Man: the majority of Americans have no clue how to drive a motor vehicle and never will, and your anger will not help them learn, it just gets you more frustrated, so chill out and put on the radio.

Sad but true. It really boils down to a cultural issue. We let just about anyone who registers a pulse out on the road, with only a very minimal amount of training. Things don't have to be this way, but there doesn't seem to be much hope that it will ever change.


Fail the driving test once, wait a year to re-test. Fail it twice, wait two years. So on and so forth.

I was getting my license renewed recently and while waiting watched the driving portion of the exams. This woman who had her husband interpreting for her floored it when she came upon a woman pushing a stroller through the parking lot (this wasn't a prop, there was an actual woman with a baby and she floored it instead of stopping for her) and then she backed into the parallel space at a 90 degree angle and hit two cones and she stopped randomly numerous times in straightaways that require no stopping. When they got back to the building the examiner failed her and said something to the effect of "you did better this time than the last two times." SERIOUSLY? YOU WERE WORSE THAN THAT? How could someone like that EVER be considered safe to drive? Driving isn't something that requires practice to get the basics. The first time I was in a car I could have passed the exam.

/csb
 
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