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(AP)   Harlistas: Cuban Harley fanatics hold first nationwide rally, nearly all of the Harleys on Cuban roads today were built before 1960   (hosted.ap.org) divider line 90
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2012-04-14 05:20:53 PM
These are also rare because they are the few Harley's not converted into a boat to get them to Florida
 
2012-04-14 05:20:54 PM
Isn't it time we ended that stupid embargo? Cubans have nice beaches and I imagine nice women as well

Oh right, florida is a swing state. Carry on
 
2012-04-14 05:22:04 PM
So the motorcycles are about 20 years newer than the cars there.
 
2012-04-14 05:25:16 PM

SoCalSurfer: Isn't it time we ended that stupid embargo? Cubans have nice beaches and I imagine nice women as well

Oh right, florida is a swing state. Carry on



Seriously.

The goal for the embargo was to prevent Cuba from developing close ties with other communist countries around the world. We wanted to make their government fall. I think after 50 years we have enough proof that it's not working.

Cuba is starting to change right now. Events like this show you how much they want to change. Opening up trade with Cuba would do more to change them then another 100 years of embargoing.
 
2012-04-14 05:25:48 PM
If there's an embargo, how do they import all the duct tape and bailing wire to hold these vehicles together?
 
2012-04-14 05:26:23 PM

SoCalSurfer: Isn't it time we ended that stupid embargo? Cubans have nice beaches and I imagine nice women as well

Oh right, florida is a swing state. Carry on


Sure, it starts by lifting the embargo on Harleys but then the next thing you know we'll be selling them nuclear weapons.

The only safe Cuba is a Cuba without new Harleys.
 
2012-04-14 05:26:35 PM
I don't understand how they managed to keep all those old vehicles going for so long. You'd think there'd be a lot more vintage cars in America if it was that easy to keep them in good condition.

Or is America just wicked lazy and wasteful when it comes to cars too?
 
2012-04-14 05:28:55 PM

Bunnyhat: SoCalSurfer: Isn't it time we ended that stupid embargo? Cubans have nice beaches and I imagine nice women as well

Oh right, florida is a swing state. Carry on


Seriously.

The goal for the embargo was to prevent Cuba from developing close ties with other communist countries around the world. We wanted to make their government fall. I think after 50 years we have enough proof that it's not working.

Cuba is starting to change right now. Events like this show you how much they want to change. Opening up trade with Cuba would do more to change them then another 100 years of embargoing.


You guys just aren't giving it enough time. Any day now and they're gonna crack!
 
2012-04-14 05:29:12 PM

here to help: I don't understand how they managed to keep all those old vehicles going for so long. You'd think there'd be a lot more vintage cars in America if it was that easy to keep them in good condition.

Or is America just wicked lazy and wasteful when it comes to cars too?


Ever see a pothead make a bong out of thin air? Ever seen one do it when he didn't have to?
 
2012-04-14 05:30:56 PM

here to help: I don't understand how they managed to keep all those old vehicles going for so long. You'd think there'd be a lot more vintage cars in America if it was that easy to keep them in good condition.

Or is America just wicked lazy and wasteful when it comes to cars too?


I know from talking to the Cuban neighbor I have, the cars mostly have Russian on Chinese engines in them.
 
2012-04-14 05:32:22 PM
They can get any car they want from any country on the planet EXCEPT the US. I hear many of those Asian and European countries have car companies.
 
2012-04-14 05:37:23 PM
So bikers are dirty, fat, unattractive people even behind the Iron Curtain.

Good to know.
 
2012-04-14 05:38:58 PM

sharkbeagle: They can get any car they want from any country on the planet EXCEPT the US. I hear many of those Asian and European countries have car companies.


Only recently. Until September of last year, it was illegal for most Cubans to purchase an automobile of any sort if it was made after the revolution. And of course even now there is the complicating factor that few Cubans can afford a new car.
 
2012-04-14 05:39:46 PM
One of the most amazing things about visiting Cuba is all the 50's era American cars still on the roads.

SoCalSurfer: Isn't it time we ended that stupid embargo? Cubans have nice beaches and I imagine nice women as well


A little known fact is that a big reason for the Cuban revolution was that Battista was allowing American businesses and gangsters to exploit Cuba for his own benefit. After he was 'replaced' the US couldn't exploit Cuba anymore, so they put the embargo in place as a way of punishing them.

So I seriously doubt the US will ever just drop the embargo, because it would only serve to benefit Cuba's tourism industry, and US businesses would still not be allowed to exploit Cuba in any way.
 
2012-04-14 05:40:20 PM

Ashtrey: here to help: I don't understand how they managed to keep all those old vehicles going for so long. You'd think there'd be a lot more vintage cars in America if it was that easy to keep them in good condition.

Or is America just wicked lazy and wasteful when it comes to cars too?

Ever see a pothead make a bong out of thin air? Ever seen one do it when he didn't have to?


Damn, that was succint.
 
2012-04-14 05:42:09 PM

here to help: I don't understand how they managed to keep all those old vehicles going for so long. You'd think there'd be a lot more vintage cars in America if it was that easy to keep them in good condition.

Or is America just wicked lazy and wasteful when it comes to cars too?


Basically. Those cars survived because many were built before the era of planned obsolescence.The lack of imports meant that Cubans has less reason to trade in their car for the newest model to keep up with the Joneses (The Joneses were sent to the gulag for reeducation)

You'd be surprised how long things can last when supply is low and prices are high. It might be cheaper in the long run to replace the cheap Chinese junk with quality American made goods.
 
2012-04-14 05:45:57 PM

Ed Willy: These are also rare because they are the few Harley's not converted into a boat to get them to Florida


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2012-04-14 05:47:13 PM

J. Frank Parnell: A little known fact is that a big reason for the Cuban revolution was that Battista was allowing American businesses and gangsters to exploit Cuba for his own benefit. After he was 'replaced' the US couldn't exploit Cuba anymore, so they put the embargo in place as a way of punishing them.


I don't know that this fact is "little known". More like "conveniently overlooked".
 
2012-04-14 05:50:17 PM

J. Frank Parnell: A little known fact is that a big reason for the Cuban revolution was that Battista was allowing American businesses and gangsters to exploit Cuba for his own benefit. After he was 'replaced' the US couldn't exploit Cuba anymore, so they put the embargo in place as a way of punishing them.

So I seriously doubt the US will ever just drop the embargo, because it would only serve to benefit Cuba's tourism industry, and US businesses would still not be allowed to exploit Cuba in any way.


Yup. It's essentially a big hissy fit because Cuba didn't want to be America's morally corrupt backyard anymore. But obviously that storyline doesn't play well with voters so it turned into "COMMOOONIIISTS!!!!!"

cig-mkr: the cars mostly have Russian on Chinese engines in them.


That... I did not know.
 
2012-04-14 06:02:32 PM
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2012-04-14 06:07:25 PM

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/Harley lover, just got into the spirit of the cheer...
 
2012-04-14 06:07:39 PM

SageC: Looks like they know how to have fun... I'd have visited for the girls alone, but you be the judge:

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*second pic right to left*

Hummina hummina hummina!

Jailbait. Call me in a couple years.

LEAVE THAT CHILD ALONE YOU SICK BASTARD!
 
2012-04-14 06:07:45 PM

here to help: Yup. It's essentially a big hissy fit because Cuba didn't want to be America's morally corrupt backyard anymore.


So they decided to cleanse themselves of this "corruption" by turning themselves into a repressive dictatorship for 50 years and allying themselves with the most totalitarian regimes on the planet? I think there were other alternatives available.

But obviously that storyline doesn't play well with voters so it turned into "COMMOOONIIISTS!!!!!"

Yeah, I don't know why the US was so worried about Communism, which only killed -- what -- 100 million people or so? The real danger all along was those people in the US who pronounced the word "Communists" in a funny voice.
 
2012-04-14 06:12:19 PM

cig-mkr: here to help: I don't understand how they managed to keep all those old vehicles going for so long. You'd think there'd be a lot more vintage cars in America if it was that easy to keep them in good condition.

Or is America just wicked lazy and wasteful when it comes to cars too?

I know from talking to the Cuban neighbor I have, the cars mostly have Russian on Chinese engines in them.


That rule 34 sure is pervasive, aint it?

tee-hee

Pre-1960 HD's were pre-AMF so they had a better chance of surviving. (IMHO)
 
2012-04-14 06:15:39 PM

EvilRacistNaziFascist: So they decided to cleanse themselves of this "corruption" by turning themselves into a repressive dictatorship for 50 years and allying themselves with the most totalitarian regimes on the planet? I think there were other alternatives available.


They needed protection from the US and the Commies were the only players big enough to gain that. The ruthlessness was in response to how f*cked up things were. They NEEDED to shut that sh*t down. Sadly as is the case with most well intentioned revolutionaries turned supreme leader Castro got greedy and evil... but it could have been worse.

EvilRacistNaziFascist: Yeah, I don't know why the US was so worried about Communism, which only killed -- what -- 100 million people or so? The real danger all along was those people in the US who pronounced the word "Communists" in a funny voice.


It wasn't communism itself that was particularly bad. It was some of its leaders who corrupted and twisted it for their own benefit. Kind of like how capitalism has managed to turn into the monster it is today.

From your handle I'm going to assume a thoughtful and insightful response will be forthcoming.
 
2012-04-14 06:17:17 PM

SoCalSurfer: Isn't it time we ended that stupid embargo? Cubans have nice beaches and I imagine nice women as well

Oh right, florida is a swing state. Carry on


Can we please just sell that shiathole back to Spain? Hell, I'd be willing to chip in a few bucks to help bribe Spain into just taking it off our hands.
 
2012-04-14 06:21:38 PM

EvilRacistNaziFascist: here to help: Yup. It's essentially a big hissy fit because Cuba didn't want to be America's morally corrupt backyard anymore.

So they decided to cleanse themselves of this "corruption" by turning themselves into a repressive dictatorship for 50 years and allying themselves with the most totalitarian regimes on the planet? I think there were other alternatives available.


Funny thing is Castro came to us first for aid. But the US government wasn't going to help out anyone who kicked US corporation's dicks into the dirt. So Castro turned to someone who would help him: the Soviets. We could have had an alley down there, but we farked that chicken.
 
2012-04-14 06:22:10 PM
I wish there were more pictures of the bikes. (boobs I can see anywhere)

There must be some pretty ingenious makeshift engineering going into them to keep them on the road.

From what I understand it's hard enough to keep a new Harley running.
 
2012-04-14 06:23:02 PM

Ed Grubermann: Funny thing is Castro came to us first for aid. But the US government wasn't going to help out anyone who kicked US corporation's dicks into the dirt. So Castro turned to someone who would help him: the Soviets. We could have had an alley down there, but we farked that chicken.


Exactly... but I'm pretty sure that guy was trolololing.
 
2012-04-14 06:25:56 PM
Bike parts are easily availiable through Canada or Mexico
 
2012-04-14 06:27:36 PM

here to help: They needed protection from the US and the Commies were the only players big enough to gain that.


So you're saying the fifty years of virulent Marxist rhetoric and implementation of socialist theories were all for show?

The ruthlessness was in response to how f*cked up things were. They NEEDED to shut that sh*t down. Sadly as is the case with most well intentioned revolutionaries turned supreme leader Castro got greedy and evil... but it could have been worse.

It's difficult to see how it could have been worse than turning your country into an impoverished island prison. "Necessity is always the tyrant's plea".

It wasn't communism itself that was particularly bad.

Well, apart from the whole 100 million dead people. Apart from that, Communism wasn't so bad at all.

It was some of its leaders who corrupted and twisted it for their own benefit.

I hear the same thing happened to Naziism.

Kind of like how capitalism has managed to turn into the monster it is today.

The capitalist system has made the West the freest and most prosperous civilization in the history of the world. It has made it possible for you to sit down on a nice chair at an advanced computer in your comfortable house and type about how much your country sucks.

From your handle I'm going to assume a thoughtful and insightful response will be forthcoming.

My handle is a parody of the hysterical left-wing bedwetters who, when losing an argument, immediately resort to calling their opponent an EvilRacistNaziFascist. I thought I'd adopt the name preemptively, but it looks as if liberals are too dim to discern irony: "oho! So he admits he's a Nazi!" etc.
 
2012-04-14 06:29:47 PM

EvilRacistNaziFascist: .


Welp... I called that one.

Have a pleasant day.

/here to help
 
2012-04-14 06:33:00 PM

here to help: EvilRacistNaziFascist: .

Welp... I called that one.

Have a pleasant day.

/here to help


What a cowardly evasion. God forbid you should lose an argument and actually learn something, you dolt.
 
2012-04-14 06:34:10 PM

EvilRacistNaziFascist: here to help: EvilRacistNaziFascist: .

Welp... I called that one.

Have a pleasant day.

/here to help

What a cowardly evasion. God forbid you should lose an argument and actually learn something, you dolt.


Actually I agree with you. You don't need to insult me.
 
2012-04-14 06:38:16 PM

here to help: Actually I agree with you. You don't need to insult me.


Well in that case, never mind. Thought you were doing the Parting Shot Before Grand Dramatic Exit thing so often seen on Fark. Mea culpa.
 
2012-04-14 06:38:35 PM

T.M.S.: From what I understand it's hard enough to keep a new Harley running.


Know how I know you don't own a Harley?
 
2012-04-14 06:38:40 PM
When the embargo ends (God only knows when) car collectors are going to have a field day with all the surviving old-school American iron down there. I understand that some, maybe even most, of the cars down their are Frankensteined rustbuckets, but there is enough value in what exists to make a killing. Throw the poor bastards a few ducats and resell the car in the States for a few thousand. It's money in the bank.
 
2012-04-14 06:39:27 PM

EvilRacistNaziFascist: Well, apart from the whole 100 million dead people. Apart from that, Communism wasn't so bad at all.


How's your boycott of Walmart coming along? Seeing as it's effectively an arm of the communist Chinese government, leeching cash out of the hands of hard-working Americans into the accounts of Earth's biggest communist dictatorship, I assume you devote a lot of time to opposing trade with China.

RIght?
 
2012-04-14 06:41:47 PM

EvilRacistNaziFascist: here to help: Actually I agree with you. You don't need to insult me.

Well in that case, never mind. Thought you were doing the Parting Shot Before Grand Dramatic Exit thing so often seen on Fark. Mea culpa.


I'm truly fascinated. Do you have any links for me?
 
2012-04-14 06:49:41 PM

Manfred J. Hattan: sharkbeagle: They can get any car they want from any country on the planet EXCEPT the US. I hear many of those Asian and European countries have car companies.

Only recently. Until September of last year, it was illegal for most Cubans to purchase an automobile of any sort if it was made after the revolution. And of course even now there is the complicating factor that few Cubans can afford a new car.


So that's more a problem with Cuba than with the embargo.
 
2012-04-14 06:50:45 PM

jaytkay: EvilRacistNaziFascist: Well, apart from the whole 100 million dead people. Apart from that, Communism wasn't so bad at all.

How's your boycott of Walmart coming along? Seeing as it's effectively an arm of the communist Chinese government, leeching cash out of the hands of hard-working Americans into the accounts of Earth's biggest communist dictatorship, I assume you devote a lot of time to opposing trade with China.

RIght?


Oh, I see what you're saying... if I buy shoes at Walmart, it makes me the moral equivalent of someone who killed 100 million people. Or something like that. Brilliant argument.

In truth, abstaining from trade with another nation just because you don't like the way it does things is pointlessly self- righteous, and in any case harms the ordinary people in the target country more than the government. It's true for Cuba as much as any other country. There is nothing more subversive of Communism than trade.
 
2012-04-14 06:51:03 PM
Motorcycles? Boobs? Communist vs. Capitalism flame war? Bookmarked!
 
2012-04-14 06:51:43 PM

Rapmaster2000: Damn, that was succint.


Suc-what?

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2012-04-14 06:52:22 PM
Question: Would it be that hard to import American cars and motorcycles to another country and sell them to Cuba? I mean, Halliburton buys Iranian oil all the time, and I know rich people can always get Cuban cigars or travel to Canada to get them. What's preventing a third party from supplying Cuba with whatever it wants?
 
2012-04-14 06:53:11 PM

Ed Willy: here to help: I don't understand how they managed to keep all those old vehicles going for so long. You'd think there'd be a lot more vintage cars in America if it was that easy to keep them in good condition.

Or is America just wicked lazy and wasteful when it comes to cars too?

Basically. Those cars survived because many were built before the era of planned obsolescence.


Bahahahahaha wut? From the era when body styles changed yearly, when a 6-year-old car with 80K miles was ready for scrap? No planned obsolescence? Are you kidding me? Even modern-day Dodges feature durability and reliability that would make anything built before Castro run home crying for its mother.

Cubans still have their cars running because they can't be economically replaced. Americans replace their cars because here they can be economically replaced, because vehicles are (relatively) cheap and labor is expensive. In Cuba it's the other way around.
 
2012-04-14 06:54:38 PM

Ed Willy: What's preventing a third party from supplying Cuba with whatever it wants?


Sadly it's probably the Castro's themselves.
 
2012-04-14 06:58:08 PM

EvilRacistNaziFascist: .


Still waiting on those links. Do have a newsletter perchance?
 
2012-04-14 07:00:49 PM

Ed Grubermann: Funny thing is Castro came to us first for aid. But the US government wasn't going to help out anyone who kicked US corporation's dicks into the dirt. So Castro turned to someone who would help him: the Soviets. We could have had an alley down there, but we farked that chicken.


Oddly enough, Ho Chi Minh did the same thing in 1946 and got the same response. Just substitute "the French" for "US Corporations".
 
2012-04-14 07:12:23 PM

Ed Willy: Question: Would it be that hard to import American cars and motorcycles to another country and sell them to Cuba? I mean, Halliburton buys Iranian oil all the time, and I know rich people can always get Cuban cigars or travel to Canada to get them. What's preventing a third party from supplying Cuba with whatever it wants?


Didn't read the f-n article, did you?
 
2012-04-14 07:18:34 PM

sharkbeagle: Manfred J. Hattan: sharkbeagle: They can get any car they want from any country on the planet EXCEPT the US. I hear many of those Asian and European countries have car companies.

Only recently. Until September of last year, it was illegal for most Cubans to purchase an automobile of any sort if it was made after the revolution. And of course even now there is the complicating factor that few Cubans can afford a new car.

So that's more a problem with Cuba than with the embargo.


All of Cuba's problems are more with Cuba than with the embargo with the sole exception that they do not have a nuclear base. That one's on the embargo.
 
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