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2012-04-13 08:13:43 PM
17 votes:
i.imgur.com
2012-04-13 09:31:03 PM
9 votes:
I'm a militant agnostic. I stand outside of places of worship holding question marks and screaming "MAYBE!"

If I don't know, then neither can you!

/Practicing Deist
//To each his own
2012-04-13 08:28:56 PM
8 votes:

Raging Thespian: Stop submitting links about it and we'll stop commenting.


No! The people not commenting on unsubmitted articles have to disprove the existence of unsubmitted articles.
2012-04-13 11:25:03 PM
4 votes:
Really? C'mon, drunken and/or smoking slackers, for shame, even if it is a Friday night.

www.poundexclaim.com

www.doobybrain.com

scienceblogs.com
2012-04-13 10:20:04 PM
4 votes:

Bevets: Many Americans raised in the Judeo-Christian tradition are convinced that atheists can have no moral compass.

If a person doesn't think there is a God to be accountable to, then -- then what's the point of trying to modify your behavior to keep it within acceptable ranges? That's how I thought anyway. I always believed the theory of evolution as truth, that we all just came from the slime. When we, when we died, you know, that was it, there is nothing ~ Jeffrey Dahmer


"Kill them all. God will know His own."
~ Pope Innocent III
2012-04-13 08:54:20 PM
4 votes:
Because this an artifact in the Creationist Museum.

www.vaguebuttrue.com

Let's not forget vegetarian dinosaurs in the Garden of Eden.

www.progressivepuppy.com
2012-04-13 10:12:24 PM
3 votes:
Many Americans raised in the Judeo-Christian tradition are convinced that atheists can have no moral compass.

If a person doesn't think there is a God to be accountable to, then -- then what's the point of trying to modify your behavior to keep it within acceptable ranges? That's how I thought anyway. I always believed the theory of evolution as truth, that we all just came from the slime. When we, when we died, you know, that was it, there is nothing ~ Jeffrey Dahmer
2012-04-13 10:01:29 PM
3 votes:

jim32rr: You don't say much my friend, but when you do it's to the point, and I salute you for it.


I like to think that you can make a point about acceptance and respect and STILL get a couple of dick jokes in. It's important, I think.
2012-04-13 09:51:40 PM
3 votes:

Darth_Lukecash: Then of course there is this:
Do not believe anything because it is said by an authority,or if it is said to come from angels,
or from Gods, or from an inspired source. Believe it only if you have explored it in your own heart
and mind and body and found it to be true. Work out your own path, through diligence.
~ Guatama Buddha


That guy sounds fat.

:|
2012-04-14 01:56:23 AM
2 votes:
Tow one is for the two, tolerant free thinkers that put me on ignore:
chzmemeafterdark.files.wordpress.com
Lighten up.
2012-04-14 12:24:49 AM
2 votes:
intended to give heart to young, "closet atheists" who fear the social stigma of being "outed," in much the same way closeted gays do

Maybe we need some "It gets better" videos?
2012-04-14 12:12:25 AM
2 votes:

PlatypusPuke: I don't believe in atheists.


Faith. You need faith.
2012-04-13 10:19:17 PM
2 votes:

WhyteRaven74: The fact that in the US many denominations totally turn their back on social issues involving the needy and instead focus only on things like sex and demonizing those who are different may actually be the biggest contributing factor.


hate instead of love??? NO!
2012-04-13 10:15:08 PM
2 votes:
And as a moth to the flame, he comes...
2012-04-13 09:54:22 PM
2 votes:

hubiestubert: Probably for the same reason that the Unitarian Universalists are the fastest growing church in the US.

Because a lot of folks with faith can be real dicks about it...

Faith isn't something that you can inculcate. It has to be found. It has to be accepted. I was raised up in Buddhism, but I left for a while. My Grandmother was a Catholic who went to Methodist churches because it was easier to be Methodist in that part of the South. I had a step mother who was a Baptist. I'm glad that I had a chance to learn about Christianity. In high school and college for a while, I went through a period of agnosticism, but I went back to Buddhism by choice. It made more sense. Not just because of my mother, but because I studied the Dharma later, and found that faith again.

My own faith was hard found. It wasn't just a shining revelation, but took time to look around. Do I believe in a shining afterlife? Not so much. Not sure if we get another turn on the Great Wheel even. I am fairly certain that the Universe won't lift a single gluon in our favor. The Universe will wipe us out, if the forces set into motion at the moment of creation turn out that way and send a big ass rock or spinning pulsar sweeps through our neck of the woods. I do think that the Universe is hopeful that we'll get it, that our actions carry weight in the here and now. Afterlife is unimportant. We'll all figure that out soon enough, so fretting on it doesn't really make a lot of sense. Come to an end, or transfigure into another existence, or something we can't imagine even, that doesn't really matter. What does matter, is what we do now. This moment is all that matters. And how our actions ripple out, that is our legacy. Our actions carry weight, and they ripple out, and they are the best sense of an afterlife, because our actions affect others. Those actions ripple out, and they touch others, their actions ripple out and touch others, and on and on and on.

We can see that as bleak, but that is galactic ...


You don't say much my friend, but when you do it's to the point, and I salute you for it.
2012-04-13 09:08:06 PM
2 votes:

simsite9: Why do non-atheists keep capitalizing the "a" in "atheism?" It's not a belief that needs to be a proper noun. it's a lack of belief, especially in needless aggrandizement.


You do not know of the sacred order of Atheismo? I said too much.
2012-04-13 08:23:40 PM
2 votes:
Azim Shariff, a University of Oregon psychologist who studies religious thinking, sums up how believers view nonbelievers: "They don't fear God, so we should distrust them. They do not have the same moral obligations as others."

If the only thing keeping you from murdering the guy standing next to you or driving your SUV into a playground is your fear of God, not only do I feel sorry for you, but I don't really feel all that safe being around you.
2012-04-14 11:58:49 AM
1 votes:
I like Agnostics. They're cool, collective and to themselves. These are the people Atheist are talking about when they post their little meme's about how Atheist have a high moral ground etc..

Atheist are a bunch of self righteous assholes who follow the religion of Atheism, argue it isn't a religion and pretend the communist who killed thousands of religious people because they weren't followers of their religion weren't religious killings. They're as bad as most religious groups they want to pin labels on due to their misdeeds, though their violent history doesn't go back 1,000's of years, it goes back to the 20th century and shows signs of growing in scope and strength this century.

I equate Neo-Atheism with Radical Islam and Fundamentalist Christians. Now that the communist version of their violence has been put down for the most part they have taken mostly an instigator role which they will use in the future to justify their next violent role.
2012-04-14 06:00:50 AM
1 votes:

muck4doo: Al Franken went to a public school. Reagan went to a public school. Reagan was involved in Hollywood. Franken was involved in Hollywood. Reagan had a wife. Franken had a wife. At age 12 Reagan started making career decisions. At 12 Franken started making career decisions. Reagan had 6 best friends. Franken had 5 best friends and a grilled cheese sandwich. Reagan once peed outside. Franken once peed outside. It is only obvious now that Al Franken must be Ronald Reagan.

/Do you get how dumb the Zeitgeist poster looks now?


Al Franken attended a private boarding school, The Blake School.

OMG! I found an error! That invalidates your whole arguement! WHARGERBARGL!
2012-04-14 03:10:17 AM
1 votes:
i.imgur.com
2012-04-14 03:07:36 AM
1 votes:
i.imgur.com
2012-04-14 02:58:16 AM
1 votes:

i.imgur.com
2012-04-14 01:37:36 AM
1 votes:

Egalitarian: Once I tried to be a god-believer, to get the kids off my back who were bullying me with "Do you believe in God?" I remember being in the dark and trying to pray. I couldn't force myself to get on my knees, though. And it seemed there was nothing in the dark, nothing but my own shame for being weak.


I get asked "Do you believe in god?" and I reply with 'No.' then I get asked "But you believe Jesus Christ is your Lord and savior, right?" I give them this face

i1.kym-cdn.com
2012-04-14 12:56:35 AM
1 votes:

SigilBear: ////Jesus made me that way.


26.media.tumblr.com
I'm straight and he almost does it for me.
2012-04-14 12:54:02 AM
1 votes:
I used to be very religious. Attended church, Sunday School, choir and all that. Then one day, my hormones kicked in, and that was like blood in the water.

Suddenly, all the wimmins in the church were completely batshiat frantic to get me married off just as soon as possible. They mulled over several potential candidates before they rolled out their choice for my future bride, and she was so stunningly fat that when she hauled ass she had to make two trips.

Her personality was even worse. I clawed out my eyes, and ran screaming through the graveyard, fearing to stop lest I be consumed. I didn't look back, and I damn sure never went back.

/And that's why I turned gay.
//100% true story.
///Except for the gay part.
////Jesus made me that way.
2012-04-14 12:39:26 AM
1 votes:
For a very long time when I was a kid, I was bullied daily by a boy named David Steiner.

He was quite frankly, a psychopath. And it wasn't just me and it wasn't just other kids. He used to bully seniors into handing over their Social Security checks and any pet left out after dark was doomed.

One day, in the 10th grade, David Steiner burst into homeroom wearing a brand new suit. One one lapel, he's wearing a huge American flag pin. One the other lapel, a cross almost big enough to be used as a weapon. As soon as he got everybody's attention, he proclaimed that he had been saved and he was there to put us poor damned sinners on notice.

Something 'broke' inside of me. I actually heard it break. And from that time on, I've never been able to believe in God.
2012-04-14 12:38:58 AM
1 votes:

RubberBabyBuggyBumpers: hubiestubert: shivashakti: hubiestubert: Probably for the same reason that the Unitarian Universalists are the fastest growing church in the US.

Having been in my share of UU churches, that would surprise me.

To be fair, not all UU Societies are equal. ;)

True. And some are Fellowships or Congregations.


Atheists and theists. Sitting down together and having potato salad.

MASS HYSTERIA!
2012-04-14 12:31:23 AM
1 votes:

revrendjim: Bevets: Many Americans raised in the Judeo-Christian tradition are convinced that atheists can have no moral compass.

If a person doesn't think there is a God to be accountable to, then -- then what's the point of trying to modify your behavior to keep it within acceptable ranges? That's how I thought anyway. I always believed the theory of evolution as truth, that we all just came from the slime. When we, when we died, you know, that was it, there is nothing ~ Jeffrey Dahmer

How many schizophrenics have murdered because God told them to?


You don't have to be schizophrenic to do such a thing. It's just a really fun flavor of psychotic break (or near-break) to be around. Hell, just yesterday one of my gods told me to make pancakes, and i made cheeseburgers instead. Now, i know i'm going to hell. Of course, this god lives in my stomach, and so is obviously a lesser god, and the scope of this hell might have merely been a trivial bowel movement issue. This time.
2012-04-14 12:23:04 AM
1 votes:

bubo_sibiricus: I sometimes believe that this is not all there is to the Life, The Universe, and Everything.

But then I look around at people who actually buy the whole religion thing.

And then I think utter nothingness at the end of it all is the correct answer.


Missed it by four words.

/42
2012-04-14 12:14:38 AM
1 votes:

s2s2s2: jso2897: You can't know until you open the box.

[media.giantbomb.com image 500x281]


I was going to take the red snapper.
2012-04-14 12:12:31 AM
1 votes:

Bevets: hubiestubert:

You cannot preach to folks to love thy neighbor, and then turn around and tell folks terrible they are

If a Doctor thinks you have cancer, would it be 'loving' to keep his opinions to himself?


Couldn't bring yourself to quote the whole sentence even? This is perhaps the problem, is that in order to understand things, you have to actually take them in context. Which is perhaps why so many folks miss a lot of the compassion portion of the show in Christianity, and tend to see only single passages.

You sort of have to put them all together. I know that language is sometimes a hard thing, but it helps if you focus on more than just one sutra or sentence at a time. Otherwise you wind up taking a little trip...

lh3.googleusercontent.com
2012-04-14 12:10:46 AM
1 votes:

Maximer: jso2897: jim32rr: Maximer: Bevets: How many schizophrenics have murdered because God told them to?

none

You are correct on this. There were no schizophrenics who murdered anyone because God told them to because there is no God to tell them to. Any conceptualization of God is only that; a conceptualization.

You sound all knowing.

Welcome to Fark.

God told me everything.


Cool. Here's your accordion.
2012-04-14 12:09:42 AM
1 votes:

jso2897: You can't know until you open the box.


media.giantbomb.com
2012-04-14 12:04:07 AM
1 votes:

s2s2s2: theorellior: Like how it's annoying having to build a pyre to burn those pesky atheists, or you just have to get your axe out to chop their heads off, or scourging them and running them out of town takes up time that could be better used for plowing?

You know there is more than just annoying, and non-annoying, right?


You can't know until you open the box.
2012-04-13 11:51:45 PM
1 votes:

simsite9: Why do non-atheists keep capitalizing the "a" in "atheism?" It's not a belief that needs to be a proper noun. it's a lack of belief, especially in needless aggrandizement.


Capital-A Atheism refers to the worshippers of Athe^. A common point of confusion.
2012-04-13 11:50:10 PM
1 votes:

RoyBatty: RoyBatty: Gyrfalcon: Britney Spear's Speculum: Raging Thespian: Stop submitting links about it and we'll stop commenting.

No! The people not commenting on unsubmitted articles have to disprove the existence of unsubmitted articles.

It's a lot harder to comment on unsubmitted links, you have to admit.

Anyway, if you tip more than 15% automatically, I say you're an idiot.

Sorry, sorry, wrong thread.


I don't know... it kinda works
2012-04-13 11:48:59 PM
1 votes:
I'm not an atheist... I just quit going to church because everyone there was so snarky.

/I love you Jesus, but your fan club sucks!
2012-04-13 11:48:14 PM
1 votes:

s2s2s2: Atheists have been annoying religious people for centuries.


Like how it's annoying having to build a pyre to burn those pesky atheists, or you just have to get your axe out to chop their heads off, or scourging them and running them out of town takes up time that could be better used for plowing?
2012-04-13 11:41:05 PM
1 votes:
lh6.ggpht.com

This is your God...

2012-04-13 11:40:43 PM
1 votes:

Skr: This Atheist movement is getting awful religiousy


Does this mean we get to make random demands that entire nations have to cater to that make almost no sense in the modern world?
2012-04-13 11:32:43 PM
1 votes:

Bevets: wharrrgarbl

2012-04-13 11:25:55 PM
1 votes:

doglover: simsite9: Why do non-atheists keep capitalizing the "a" in "atheism?" It's not a belief that needs to be a proper noun. it's a lack of belief, especially in needless aggrandizement.

Atheism with a big A isn't a believe that gods do not exist. (it's not a lack, but a positive denial usually, and that's okay.)

Atheism with a big A applies to the people like Penn Jillette who can't talk more than five minutes without bringing it up!

My best bro stateside is so Christian he can turn water into wine (albeit with yeast) but you could hang out with him for a whole week before you noticed he goes to church. That's how everyone should treat it. But this is not the case.

The atheists in America are mostly out of everyone's hair and doing their own thing like good citizens. The Atheists are a vocal minority like Creationists and other groups of assholes who think want to fark with us normal people by constant legal battles and whining in the news over the most innane shiat.


Tim Tebow.
2012-04-13 11:09:58 PM
1 votes:

AlwaysRightBoy: I knew to give up on religion in the early seventy's when my then very Catholic mother pulled my brother and I out of a Catholic school in Queens after she figured it out.

/still took cataclysm classes at St. Pats for my marriage much later to make my wife happy... it's called compromise in a marriage


so does that make you a believer or an atheist on the questionnaires?
do you still go to church and believe, or was it basically a lie so that the priest would marry you in the church?
LOL
the kids? are they be raised fake or real ??
2012-04-13 10:36:04 PM
1 votes:

Raharu: Oh wow the bevbot is linking back it its own fark posts.

Don't fall for the bot.

http://io9.com/5901579/10-tricks-that-chatbots-use-to-make-you-believ e -theyre-human


Well, if that;s the case...

Worst. Chatbot. Evar.
2012-04-13 10:33:43 PM
1 votes:
Oh wow the bevbot is linking back it its own fark posts.

Don't fall for the bot.

http://io9.com/5901579/10-tricks-that-chatbots-use-to-make-you-believ e -theyre-human
2012-04-13 10:33:43 PM
1 votes:
Religion doesn't enhance reason, it replaces it.

Faith is another thing entirely, and you got to have it to get by in this world.
2012-04-13 10:28:49 PM
1 votes:

simsite9: Why do non-atheists keep capitalizing the "a" in "atheism?" It's not a belief that needs to be a proper noun. it's a lack of belief, especially in needless aggrandizement.


Atheism with a big A isn't a believe that gods do not exist. (it's not a lack, but a positive denial usually, and that's okay.)

Atheism with a big A applies to the people like Penn Jillette who can't talk more than five minutes without bringing it up!

My best bro stateside is so Christian he can turn water into wine (albeit with yeast) but you could hang out with him for a whole week before you noticed he goes to church. That's how everyone should treat it. But this is not the case.

The atheists in America are mostly out of everyone's hair and doing their own thing like good citizens. The Atheists are a vocal minority like Creationists and other groups of assholes who think want to fark with us normal people by constant legal battles and whining in the news over the most innane shiat.
2012-04-13 10:22:02 PM
1 votes:
Haha, a Dahmer quote, I love it. Hold up a psycho's ramblings as an example of mainstream atheism.

Touch, you're out of it.
2012-04-13 10:00:20 PM
1 votes:

Britney Spear's Speculum: Why are so many people leaving religion?
1) Many aspects of religion have been disproven
2) The internet
3) Radical fundamentalism pervading many mainstream religions
4) Child molestation (That explains people ditching Catholicism)
5) Birth Control/womens' liberation

What did I miss?


6) public education replacing catholic schools
7) removing prayer from public schools
8) removal of stigma from non-believers
9) parents losing control of their children. put another way, more kids breaking away from their parents and not fearing being outcast
2012-04-13 09:52:15 PM
1 votes:

shivashakti: hubiestubert: Probably for the same reason that the Unitarian Universalists are the fastest growing church in the US.

Having been in my share of UU churches, that would surprise me.


To be fair, not all UU Societies are equal. ;)
2012-04-13 09:41:00 PM
1 votes:
Probably for the same reason that the Unitarian Universalists are the fastest growing church in the US.

Because a lot of folks with faith can be real dicks about it...

Faith isn't something that you can inculcate. It has to be found. It has to be accepted. I was raised up in Buddhism, but I left for a while. My Grandmother was a Catholic who went to Methodist churches because it was easier to be Methodist in that part of the South. I had a step mother who was a Baptist. I'm glad that I had a chance to learn about Christianity. In high school and college for a while, I went through a period of agnosticism, but I went back to Buddhism by choice. It made more sense. Not just because of my mother, but because I studied the Dharma later, and found that faith again.

My own faith was hard found. It wasn't just a shining revelation, but took time to look around. Do I believe in a shining afterlife? Not so much. Not sure if we get another turn on the Great Wheel even. I am fairly certain that the Universe won't lift a single gluon in our favor. The Universe will wipe us out, if the forces set into motion at the moment of creation turn out that way and send a big ass rock or spinning pulsar sweeps through our neck of the woods. I do think that the Universe is hopeful that we'll get it, that our actions carry weight in the here and now. Afterlife is unimportant. We'll all figure that out soon enough, so fretting on it doesn't really make a lot of sense. Come to an end, or transfigure into another existence, or something we can't imagine even, that doesn't really matter. What does matter, is what we do now. This moment is all that matters. And how our actions ripple out, that is our legacy. Our actions carry weight, and they ripple out, and they are the best sense of an afterlife, because our actions affect others. Those actions ripple out, and they touch others, their actions ripple out and touch others, and on and on and on.

We can see that as bleak, but that is galactic fairness, 3 out of 3 people die, gives me a great deal of hope. What happens right now, and how we affect others is our way of impacting the future. Shaping it. It doesn't need a cosmic balancing force, karma only means action. Our actions carry weight, and how we affect others, that is more than enough for me.

Worrying about deities or Cosmic Consciousness? That doesn't really change the fact that our actions carry weight. Learn from the metaphor. Learn from the parables. Learn, and act with consciousness of those actions. If anything, worrying about what comes after, muddles our actions in the now, and this is the only moment that matters. Worrying about if we continue, or don't, that is irrelevant to what we can do, if we act with responsibility for our actions.

Atheists don't impact my faith in that. We all tread our own paths, and if folks do it without harming others, then drive on. If you can act within your faith, and not harm others, then drive on. The only real sins, is harming others, because they are just like you, with the same fears, the same dreams, and the same hopes. They are us. Harming others, is very much damaging to ourselves. It cheapens our future. It cheapens ourselves.

That particular bit is why I gave up bouncing. I had a lot of rage in my youth. It took a long while to put that down. It took a lot of working out of a lot of things, and I justified putting myself in harm's way at times as being somewhat noble. It was a nice illusion, but in the end, hurting others I realized was not the answer, even if you were trying to keep others safe. Rationalization was just a crutch, and that took time to souse out.

In the end, we all walk our own path, and we all have to figure out what works for us. For me, the Eightfold Path holds meaning, and you have to take your own meaning in your own way. Be that family. Be that God. Be that work. Be that in learning. Be that in friends. We stumble. We meander. We fall even. Each of us has to find our way through, and dunning folks because they don't walk your path is not helpful. Sharing your experience, sharing your own vision, that can help focus folks, give them perspective, and that's helpful, but demanding that others walk your path isn't constructive in the least.

If we are going to come to peace, we are going to have to accept that not everyone believes as we do. Each of us sees the world through unique eyes, and each of us walks a slightly different path. That's not something to fear, not something to despise, but something to revel in. The one rule in nature is that diversity happens. We diverge from paths all the time. We react differently, in different circumstances. Understanding why, that helps focus us, but accepting that we are all flawed in our own unique ways is necessary.

Don't find a reason to worship a deity? That's fine. I don't expect anyone else to see the Universe in the same way I do. The Universe and I have our own relationship, and it may or may not have some force that is looking down upon us, but each of us has a spark of divinity in my book. We all are immortal, not in the sense that we necessarily continue in some metaphysical way, but through our actions, and how we treat others, and even honking your horn in frustration in a traffic jam affects others. How we treat others, that's how we interact with that divine spirit. We are that. We are all good enough, we are all worthy enough of respect. It would be nice if we could remember that.

Respecting others choices, when they don't harm others, that is the only thing we really need to worry about. Let them do what they need to do. Help them up if they stumble, because that is what we'd hope they'd do for us if our positions were reversed, that is how we carry our actions forward.

Believe or don't in some divine, that isn't important. Actions are the only things that matter, and are really our only real immortality. You don't need some divine to treat each other with respect and dignity. It helps. It is a nice metaphor, but in the end, what we do, and if we want this world to be a better place, we have to start doing better for one another. It's not going to help to be dicks about it. It's not going to help beating each over things or slights. The only way we make things better for ourselves is make things better for others, and to me, that's more than enough, without the Universe or deity looking down upon us with some affection.
2012-04-13 09:29:48 PM
1 votes:

FishyFred:
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I thought about getting a tattoo of it, but too many people think of Hester Prynne before Richard Dawkins.


I forgot about that book. Hester Prynne would be an awesome name for a stripper.
2012-04-13 09:04:10 PM
1 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: simsite9: Why do non-atheists keep capitalizing the "a" in "atheism?" It's not a belief that needs to be a proper noun. it's a lack of belief, especially in needless aggrandizement.

I think it stems from a sublimated desire to see all atheists branded with a big scarlet A


upload.wikimedia.org

I thought about getting a tattoo of it, but too many people think of Hester Prynne before Richard Dawkins.
 
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