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(MLive.com)   Michigan governor signs bill repealing motorcycle helmet requirement, or as it will soon be known--the Natural Selection Law of 2012   (mlive.com ) divider line
    More: Stupid, Governors of Michigan, Rick Snyder, Natural Selection Law, Michigan, Jennifer Granholm, natural selection, Michigan Senate  
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2012-04-13 10:02:10 AM  
On the plus side, think of all of the doctor and nurse jobs it'll create!
 
2012-04-13 10:07:34 AM  
They pulled a similar stunt in TX a number of years ago, claiming that helmet laws were just another government infringement on bikers' liberty.

The stupidity of today's 'conservative' mindset is amazing.
 
2012-04-13 10:08:06 AM  
Heck PA signed that law a few years ago because the Govenor wanted to feel the air in his air when he was on the bike. The face palm is we have a law saying that if you are in the car you have to wear a seat belt. WTF I'm safer behind the car with an air bag than those retards on a bike without a helmet.
 
2012-04-13 10:08:51 AM  
please ignore my spelling mistake
 
2012-04-13 10:12:11 AM  
Way to fight for the important stuff.
 
2012-04-13 10:12:18 AM  
How does one declare a Michigan citizen legally brain-dead as opposed to just, like, being a normal Michigan citizen?
 
2012-04-13 10:15:58 AM  
Meh. The way most motorcycles ride a helmet isn't going to do shiat when when the motorcyclist gets creamed after weaving in and out of traffic at 80 mph.
 
2012-04-13 10:23:47 AM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: They pulled a similar stunt in TX a number of years ago, claiming that helmet laws were just another government infringement on bikers' liberty.

The stupidity of today's 'conservative' mindset is amazing.


You're unable to make decisions for yourself eh?
 
2012-04-13 10:37:33 AM  
Since there have been warnings on cigarette cartons, higher taxes on cigarettes, and laws against smoking in the workplace, smoking rate has declined from 42% to 19% among Americans. A decrease in chronic diseases due to smoking will represent a large decrease in burden for American spending on healthcare (although unfortunately the increase in fatties replaces a lot of that burden). But the point stands that the change in smoking came about from direct government action.
 
2012-04-13 10:49:04 AM  

sweetmelissa31: although unfortunately the increase in fatties replaces a lot of that burden


Well, then we best start drafting legislation regulating people diets.
 
2012-04-13 10:58:11 AM  
DIA will be horrified to know that trans fats are banned in NY and chains have to make nutritional information available. Verdict: food still delicious.
 
2012-04-13 11:02:19 AM  
And billions of jobs were instantly created.
 
2012-04-13 11:02:30 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: Well, then we best start drafting legislation regulating people diets



I'm pretty sure a diet of people is very regulated already.
 
2012-04-13 11:09:03 AM  
why stop there? why not repeal seatbelt laws?
 
2012-04-13 11:13:32 AM  

sweetmelissa31: DIA will be horrified to know that trans fats are banned in NY and chains have to make nutritional information available. Verdict: food still delicious.


I know. Because New Yorkers are obviously too farking stupid to take care of themselves.
 
2012-04-13 11:14:23 AM  

FlashHarry: why stop there? why not repeal seatbelt laws?


Indeed. Why not? Are you that farking stupid that you need to be told to wear one?
 
2012-04-13 11:20:56 AM  
Why is lead banned from gasoline? Are Americans too stupid to make their own decisions? :(
 
2012-04-13 11:23:18 AM  
Why does the FDA have to push its government snout into "prescription" medications? And why does the AMA have to license "physicians"? Are Americans too stupid to make their own decisions?
 
2012-04-13 11:25:02 AM  

hillbillypharmacist: And why does the AMA have to license "physicians"?


I personally only go to Rand Paul licensed ophthalmologists. If they mess up my eyes I'll just sue them.
 
2012-04-13 11:25:55 AM  
I wonder if they passed it as an emergency measure.


hillbillypharmacist: Are Americans too stupid to make their own decisions?


In a vast percentage of cases yes.
 
2012-04-13 11:30:21 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: sweetmelissa31: DIA will be horrified to know that trans fats are banned in NY and chains have to make nutritional information available. Verdict: food still delicious.

I know. Because New Yorkers are obviously too farking stupid to take care of themselves.


Ever notice that American teabaggers hate New York almost as much as al-Qeada does?
 
2012-04-13 11:32:53 AM  

Aarontology: Ever notice that American teabaggers hate New York almost as much as al-Qeada does?


I love New York. It's a beautiful state. The city is kick ass too.
 
2012-04-13 11:47:13 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: FlashHarry: why stop there? why not repeal seatbelt laws?

Indeed. Why not? Are you that farking stupid that you need to be told to wear one?


why not just remove all road signs and abolish all speed limits? are you that farking stupid that you can't tell how fast is too fast?
 
2012-04-13 11:50:15 AM  

FlashHarry: why not just remove all road signs and abolish all speed limits?


Not even close to the same. Try again.
 
2012-04-13 12:12:03 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: FlashHarry: why not just remove all road signs and abolish all speed limits?

Not even close to the same. Try again.


are people so stupid that they don't know what side of the road to drive on?
 
2012-04-13 12:25:41 PM  

FlashHarry: are people so stupid that they don't know what side of the road to drive on?


Once again a swing and a miss. Want some help?
 
2012-04-13 12:47:33 PM  
I see it's time once again for 'Let's Watch DIA Constantly Move The Goalposts.'
 
2012-04-13 12:51:35 PM  

Aarontology: Meh. The way most motorcycles ride a helmet isn't going to do shiat when when the motorcyclist gets creamed after weaving in and out of traffic at 80 mph.

Most

motorcyclists?

You want to know how I know you don't know many motorcyclists?

As for the article... so? I think the headline is correct, that this will cull some of the stupid out of the gene pool. If you're dumb enough to ride without a helmet or weave in and out of traffic at 80mph or be in any other was a squid, go for it. More used motorcycle parts on the market for the rest of us.
 
2012-04-13 12:51:52 PM  

GAT_00: I see it's time once again for 'Let's Watch DIA Constantly Move The Goalposts.'


Heh. Can you tell us the difference between speed limit laws and helmet/seatbelt laws?
 
2012-04-13 12:52:36 PM  

GAT_00: I see it's time once again for 'Let's Watch DIA Constantly Move The Goalposts.'


Pot, meet kettle.
 
2012-04-13 12:55:35 PM  

R.A.Danny: Pot, meet kettle.


Leave the poor chils alone. He doesn't know any better.
 
2012-04-13 12:57:29 PM  

timujin: Most motorcyclists?

You want to know how I know you don't know many motorcyclists?


Yes, most. The only real exceptions are the guys who ride cruisers.
 
2012-04-13 01:04:42 PM  
Michigan's largest export will become donor organs
 
2012-04-13 01:06:57 PM  
Provided that those who choose not to wear helmets go ahead and pay for the increased cost of care (e.g. don't shift the burden onto the rest of society), fine.

/oh wait they don't and won't, just like always
//more risk-dumping under the guise of liberty
 
2012-04-13 01:18:52 PM  

Aarontology: timujin: Most motorcyclists?

You want to know how I know you don't know many motorcyclists?

Yes, most. The only real exceptions are the guys who ride cruisers.


Again, you don't know many motorcyclists, do you? Or probably even notice them when you're driving it sounds like. Only the ones who act like assholes. I don't know where you live, but here in southern California, the weather is conducive to riding and a lot of people take advantage. I see guys on sport bikes every single day on the freeway. I see someone riding like a jackass about once a month or less. Now, if you don't agree, I'd ask that you take note of every motorcyclist you see and count how many of them are "weaving through traffic at 80mph." I think you'll find that you have a selective perception bias.
 
2012-04-13 01:27:02 PM  
Every time I go to Florida, it freaks me out seeing people riding motorcycles without helmets on.
 
2012-04-13 02:06:51 PM  
Pretty soon we'll have to have special facilities for Roethlisberger-Americans there too.
 
2012-04-13 02:07:42 PM  
Young otherwise healthy males with fatal head injuries are a reliable source of healthy organs for transplant. This might actually improve availability of transplantable organs, is what I'm saying.
 
2012-04-13 02:08:03 PM  
And if they get injured and not insured, I don't want to foot the bill.
 
2012-04-13 02:08:17 PM  
As long as they can sign away mandatory insurance coverage and absolve the paramedics from their duty to resuscitate, I don't see the problem.
 
2012-04-13 02:08:23 PM  
Well, ain't that a kick in the head.
 
2012-04-13 02:08:25 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: They pulled a similar stunt in TX a number of years ago, claiming that helmet laws were just another government infringement on bikers' liberty.


It is. That doesn't mean you shouldn't wear a helmet. One has nothing to do with the other.
 
2012-04-13 02:10:18 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: They pulled a similar stunt in TX a number of years ago, claiming that helmet laws were just another government infringement on bikers' liberty.

The stupidity of today's 'conservative' mindset is amazing.


The funny thing is that this repeal was pushed by bikers who tent to be mostly democrats.
 
2012-04-13 02:10:20 PM  

gameshowhost: Provided that those who choose not to wear helmets go ahead and pay for the increased cost of care (e.g. don't shift the burden onto the rest of society), fine.

/oh wait they don't and won't, just like always
//more risk-dumping under the guise of liberty


Exactly. I don't give two shiats if a motorcyclist who isn't wearing a helmet dies, but I don't want to pay for his/her care.
 
2012-04-13 02:10:31 PM  
If you ride and don't wear full-gear Every. Farking. Time. You. Ride. then you deserve to have your brains handed to you in your brain-bucket of a beenie helmet.
 
2012-04-13 02:10:46 PM  
I'm so on the fence about this. One one hand I understand that a biker can be severely injured or killed in an accident without a helmet and that the cost of these injuries are passed on to the rest of us as higher insurance premiums, etc. But I also see the biker's side. It's his body and his life to do with as he choses. If he accepts the risk of riding without a helmet, isn't that his decision to make? Do we make farking without a condom illegal because you might get an STD? Do we make smoking illegal? Drinking? Eating fatty foods? You just can't legislate personal responsibility.
 
2012-04-13 02:11:09 PM  
How about if you don't want to wear a helmet then fine. But you have to sign this release that says you will not be kept alive, given any dr./hospital care resulting from an injury from an accident in which you were not wearing a helmet.
Personal responsibilty
 
2012-04-13 02:11:19 PM  
Does Michigan have a seat belt law?

/got a seat belt ticket from a motorcycle cop
 
2012-04-13 02:11:19 PM  

Petit_Merdeux: Dancin_In_Anson: Well, then we best start drafting legislation regulating people diets


I'm pretty sure a diet of people is very regulated already.


"Mr. Speaker, I would like to make a modest proposal..."
 
2012-04-13 02:11:38 PM  
Then I'm down at the bottom of a pit in the blazing sun. Torn and twisted at the foot of a burning' bike. And I think somebody somewhere is tolling a bell.

And the last thing I see is my heart. Still beating.
 
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