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(The Sun)   Not news: Mensa accepts girl with an IQ of 159. News: she's four years old   (thesun.co.uk) divider line 119
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2012-04-13 04:22:04 PM  
I can remember being much much smarter when I was 20 than I am now. Now I am 42 I am slow and take more time to understand stuff. My reading has got worse and my problem solving has gone to shiat.

I feel how 40 years olds looked to me when I was 20. Slow, dull and not quite with it anymore.

I thought I would take the mensa test myself to see how bad it had got. The time before I was a bit drunk and stoned and did an online test for fun and got 153 and this time when I did the mensa test I was still in the top 1% and got 156. I don`t think these tests mean much based on my experience. Either that or people are really dumb.
 
2012-04-13 04:22:55 PM  

Jackpot777: timujin: Jackpot777: timujin: IQ tests are bullshiat.

The Downing Effect (new window)...

One of the main effects of illusory superiority in IQ is the Downing effect. This describes the tendency of people with a below average IQ to overestimate their IQ, and of people with an above average IQ to underestimate their IQ. The propensity to predictably misjudge one's own IQ was first noted by C. L. Downing who conducted the first cross-cultural studies on perceived 'intelligence'. His studies also evidenced that the ability to accurately estimate others' IQ was proportional to one's own IQ. This means that the lower the IQ of an individual, the less capable they are of appreciating and accurately appraising others' IQ.

Know how I know you're a mental lightweight?

Know how I know you didn't read the rest of the thread?

I'm thinking this should be fun in the end...


I might be a mental lightweight, I'm not sure what you're referring to by either "this" or "end". The end of the thread? The end of our discussion?
 
2012-04-13 04:24:28 PM  

Wellon Dowd: 1. Why does her age matter? If her "mental age" is 1.59 times her chronological age her IQ is 159. It doesn't matter if she is 4, 14, or 40, unless fapping is involved.

2. Stephen Hawking is only 160? I've known plenty of people in that range and none of them is bright enough to invent time.


Her age matters because at 40 it makes her a Stephen Hawking. At age 14 it makes her Doogie Howser.

At 4 it makes her not one the kids from the thread about poop on the walls.
 
2012-04-13 04:24:51 PM  
I'm going to think about my 137 and cry all the tears.
 
2012-04-13 04:28:35 PM  
Throw that child into some ghetto, let's see how high her street smarts are.
 
2012-04-13 04:32:15 PM  

Virtuoso80: I see the main points have already been brought up:

1. IQ isn't everything, in fact it's rather silly to waste time comparing one person's IQ to another person's.
2. The MENSA test isn't that hard, especially if you study.
3. For something so unimportant and easy, people sure spend a lot of time talking about it.

My SAT, GRE, and MENSA book test suggest I'm somewhere in the 135-145IQ range.

...and my 1st semester GPA in college was a 0.7, and I wound up flunking out and going to community college.

Clearly, IQ isn't everything.


0.67 GPA here my first year at a highly selective technical college.

Next fall back home at community college, exact same 0.67 GPA.

Turns out my high IQ is mainly only good for coming up with things more fun to do than the things I should be doing.
 
2012-04-13 04:34:04 PM  

LeroyBourne: Throw that child into some ghetto, let's see how high her street smarts are.


What the Hell is that supposed to prove? I'm sure the kid couldn't operate a lathe either.
 
2012-04-13 04:35:08 PM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: LeroyBourne: Throw that child into some ghetto, let's see how high her street smarts are.

What the Hell is that supposed to prove? I'm sure the kid couldn't operate a lathe either.


Uh yeah. Is Leroy jealous of a 4 year old?
 
2012-04-13 04:45:49 PM  

DerAppie: Rent Party: timujin: born_yesterday: timujin: IQ tests are bullshiat. Still, really smart kid, I hope she's allowed to have some sort of normal childhood.

In highschool, my psychology teacher gave the class a Mensa entrance test/IQ test, whatever the hell they call it. Most didn't score high enough to get in. We spent a couple of weeks learning how to solve logic problems and taking practice quizzes. At the end of the class, 80% or so passed the test.

/Yeah, we're all really impressed

They gave me one in second grade. I scored embarrassingly high, literally unbelievably high. High enough I didn't believe it until I was a teenager and found the results in some old school stuff my mom had saved. I was given another one in fifth grade and scored about thirty points less, but still well into the genius range. I am not a genius. Turns out I'm just really good at taking tests.

This, that, and that other thing, too.

IQ is a measure of predictability of how well you should do in school. It is more accurately called an "aptitude test" as it doesn't measure intelligence. We can't even agree on a definition for intelligence, let alone design a test for it.

IQ Educational level is a very good predictor of "success in life" with "success" being defined as education level, job status, income and it even correlates with the number of sick days you take in a year.


FTFY.

IQ is a measure of predictability of how well you will do in school. Nothing else.

You might use that big IQ and see if you can draw a correlation.
 
2012-04-13 04:47:06 PM  
I hope they didn't use little words to test her, I hear that smart girls get all pissy when you do that.
 
2012-04-13 04:59:50 PM  
www.iqcomparisonsite.com

I'll just leave this here.
 
2012-04-13 05:01:30 PM  

Donnchadha: I don't really remember why I saw this movie, but it's actually quite good at expressing what can go right and horribly wrong with "genius" children.


I like clipper ships because they are fast. [great movie]
 
2012-04-13 05:02:09 PM  

Virtuoso80: I see the main points have already been brought up:

1. IQ isn't everything, in fact it's rather silly to waste time comparing one person's IQ to another person's.
2. The MENSA test isn't that hard, especially if you study.
3. For something so unimportant and easy, people sure spend a lot of time talking about it.

My SAT, GRE, and MENSA book test suggest I'm somewhere in the 135-145IQ range.

...and my 1st semester GPA in college was a 0.7, and I wound up flunking out and going to community college.

Clearly, IQ isn't everything.


no, iq isn't everything. I am a high school dropout and a mensa member. Unfortunately, intelligence is not a garantee of great success. Only the ability to learn. How what is learned is applied is up to the individual, which is very much influenced by the opportunitied they have, and the interests they pursue.

/college is not always what the highly intellegent pursue
 
2012-04-13 05:07:34 PM  

Rent Party: DerAppie: Rent Party: timujin: born_yesterday: timujin: IQ tests are bullshiat. Still, really smart kid, I hope she's allowed to have some sort of normal childhood.

In highschool, my psychology teacher gave the class a Mensa entrance test/IQ test, whatever the hell they call it. Most didn't score high enough to get in. We spent a couple of weeks learning how to solve logic problems and taking practice quizzes. At the end of the class, 80% or so passed the test.

/Yeah, we're all really impressed

They gave me one in second grade. I scored embarrassingly high, literally unbelievably high. High enough I didn't believe it until I was a teenager and found the results in some old school stuff my mom had saved. I was given another one in fifth grade and scored about thirty points less, but still well into the genius range. I am not a genius. Turns out I'm just really good at taking tests.

This, that, and that other thing, too.

IQ is a measure of predictability of how well you should do in school. It is more accurately called an "aptitude test" as it doesn't measure intelligence. We can't even agree on a definition for intelligence, let alone design a test for it.

IQ Educational level is a very good predictor of "success in life" with "success" being defined as education level, job status, income and it even correlates with the number of sick days you take in a year.


FTFY.

IQ is a measure of predictability of how well you will do in school. Nothing else.

You might use that big IQ and see if you can draw a correlation.


There are a lot of studies that show strong correlations between IQ and income. The general consensus seems to be that IQ has diminishing returns; having enough of it is important, but the difference between 'really smart' and 'SUPER smart' has little impact on income.

Other studies have shown correlations between IQ level and types of criminal behaviour. This could be related to the above - the less money I can earn legally the more I'd consider breaking into your house and stealing your money.
 
2012-04-13 05:10:10 PM  

Wellon Dowd: 2. Stephen Hawking is only 160? I've known plenty of people in that range and none of them is bright enough to invent time.


What else was he going to do? Join the football team?
 
2012-04-13 05:11:47 PM  
Oh yeah - and IQ seems to be correlated with health and longevity too.
http://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/2004currentdirections.p d f

In summary - Life is not fair.
Attractive people do better in life.
Intelligent people do better in life.
Tall people do better in life.
And the world is filled with racists and sexists

//No wonder my life sucks.
 
2012-04-13 05:29:10 PM  
Yeah, but does she play with soul?
Wait, no, what does she do well again?
 
2012-04-13 05:35:28 PM  
Do you have to pay to join MENSA?

It is not so intelligent on you part if you have to pay an organization to acknowledge your awesomeness.
 
2012-04-13 05:40:27 PM  

zipdog: She also has an 8.9 on Hot Or Not.


clatl.com

Pffffft! his is 9.7

/brb--gym. 26 minutes.
 
2012-04-13 05:44:16 PM  
Mensa is about one step away from Who's Who of America.
 
2012-04-13 05:49:21 PM  
Call me when she takes the IQ Test that Stephen Hawking has taken when she's still 4. Seriously...
 
2012-04-13 05:52:36 PM  
Since IQ is tied to age -- she thinks like a 5.5 year old?
 
2012-04-13 05:53:18 PM  

Rent Party: DerAppie

IQ Educational level is a very good predictor of "success in life" with "success" being defined as education level, job status, income and it even correlates with the number of sick days you take in a year.


FTFY.

IQ is a measure of predictability of how well you will do in school. Nothing else.

You might use that big IQ and see if you can draw a correlation.


The correlation is between IQ and success (as previously defined), education is just an intermediary variable. If you get 2 persons, one with a high IQ and one with a low IQ, without any formal education to start a business the one with the high IQ will be more likely to be successful than the one with the low IQ. If you get someone with a low IQ but with some formal education and someone with a high IQ but without formal education to start a business the one with the high IQ will once again be the most likely to succeed. A formal education is just a short cut to career success, not a guarantee.

If you really wanted to argue we could go on about the idea that people with high intelligence will have an higher IQ score and will be more likely to get a better/higher education. Similarly someone who struggled through high school will not become more intelligent (and noticeably increase his/her IQ score) by following an Ivy league education. More knowledgeable, yes. More intelligent, no. That person will probably still drop out because the workload is too far above his/her level or take twice or thrice as long to graduate.

If we go to the basics we'll see that intelligent people tend to score high on IQ tests (motivation is a factor so they can tank one) and that intelligent people tend to get a better education. This is one of those cases in which you can actually claim causation. Education does not increase intelligence, only knowledge. And yes, a lot of knowledge will increase your IQ score by a bit but you'll never go from 80 to 140 merely by getting an education.

/Unless you major was in the answers to the IQ test
//That would be cheating and would be found out fast enough
///And just because people are smart doesn't guarantee a high education level, there are such things as moderator and mediator variables
//I'd love to see a study in which someone with a low IQ score is sent to an Ivy league school and is tested each year (with a different IQ test) to see if they actually get more intelligent
/Just to prove my point
 
2012-04-13 05:53:22 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob:
There are a lot of studies that show strong correlations between IQ and income. The general consensus seems to be that IQ has diminishing returns; having enough of it is important, but the difference between 'really smart' and 'SUPER smart' has little impact on income.

Other studies have shown correlations between IQ level and types of criminal behaviour. This could be related to the above - the less money I can earn legally the ...


Good grief.

Let's go slow.

If income is correlated with educational level, and IQ is a measure of aptitude for education, then IQ may ________________.

IQ is not a measure of intelligence. In fact, many neuropsychological tests used to determine brain damage overlap with the exact same questions and excercises found on an IQ test.

Because IQ is a measure of a persons aptitude for learning. And that's all it is.
 
2012-04-13 05:55:33 PM  

DerAppie: Rent Party: DerAppie

IQ Educational level is a very good predictor of "success in life" with "success" being defined as education level, job status, income and it even correlates with the number of sick days you take in a year.


FTFY.

IQ is a measure of predictability of how well you will do in school. Nothing else.

You might use that big IQ and see if you can draw a correlation.

The correlation is between IQ and success (as previously defined), education is just an intermediary variable.


No it isn't. It is a measure of aptitude. Any other inference taken from it is erroneous.

Here is a simple exercise for all you folks that think IQ means you're smart.

Go look up the history and causative factors that generated the tests in the first place, and write a one word paragraph on what you find.
 
2012-04-13 06:04:38 PM  
4.bp.blogspot.com

I think she's up to something....or do I owe here an apology.
 
2012-04-13 06:07:48 PM  

Rent Party:
Good grief.

Let's go slow.


Sure, you obviously need it.

If income is correlated with educational level

Okay, don't sprain anything thinking too hard.

and IQ is a measure of aptitude for education

Sure, not quite wrong so far.

then IQ may ________________.

Your thought process stopped there? Let's see... IQ may correlate with the ability to learn/solve problems/think logically/process conflicting information/keep track of information (all of which are often thought of as important aspects of intelligence).

IQ is not a measure of intelligence. In fact, many neuropsychological tests used to determine brain damage overlap with the exact same questions and excercises found on an IQ test.

Maybe to see if areas involved with spatial reasoning, logic, mathematics, problem solving and sequence recognition are still functioning? You know, the things about which people might say "Wow, you are smart!" if you are really good at them. Besides, why would they develop a different test if they have a perfectly good one available? As a bonus they also get an indication of how extensive the damage is. Aside from the subjects in which the persons seriously sucks they can also calculate a total score which can be compared to previous tests (if they exist) or compare them to education level (and grades).

Because IQ is a measure of a persons aptitude for learning. And that's all it is.

Yes, amongst other things it is a persons aptitude for learning. but an IQ test measures more than that. I refer you to the subjects I mentioned.
 
2012-04-13 06:17:13 PM  

Rent Party: DerAppie: Rent Party: DerAppie

IQ Educational level is a very good predictor of "success in life" with "success" being defined as education level, job status, income and it even correlates with the number of sick days you take in a year.


FTFY.

IQ is a measure of predictability of how well you will do in school. Nothing else.

You might use that big IQ and see if you can draw a correlation.

The correlation is between IQ and success (as previously defined), education is just an intermediary variable.


No it isn't. It is a measure of aptitude. Any other inference taken from it is erroneous.

Here is a simple exercise for all you folks that think IQ means you're smart.

Go look up the history and causative factors that generated the tests in the first place, and write a one word paragraph on what you find.


Education.

Sure, but just because something started/was invented for something doesn't mean it can't be used for other purposes. The microwave in your kitchen started as a radar (iirc, at least not a way to cook food) and the first computer game was programmed on a oscilloscope. Fire was probably used for heat before we invented cooking. Does this mean that none of those things can be used for anything other than their original purpose? Jet engines were used to deliver bombs to the enemy at higher speeds and to increase the range and survival rate of planes. Does this mean that using those same engines to put out fires is somehow an invalid use? All those things grew beyond the original scope.

Addendum:
The IQ test was made in order to select the mentally retarded (as in, less able than people of similar age) in order to give them an education on their level. How would you describe someone's mental capabilities being lower than someone else's without using the word "intelligence"? Another question, would you categorize someone's intelligence to be

A. higher
B. lower
C. the same
D. not enough information

if that person at age 10 can barely manage to read, do multiplication tables or colour within the lines?
 
2012-04-13 06:29:42 PM  

MurphyMurphy: I've been keeping track and if farkers' comments can be trusted, the average IQ on fark is 243


Are you using the metric or imperial IQ scale?
 
2012-04-13 07:05:58 PM  

timujin: IQ tests are bullshiat. Still, really smart kid, I hope she's allowed to have some sort of normal childhood.


Given that IQ tests are in theory normalized by age, having an IQ of 159 at four years old means that you fall into the higher-IQ portion of four-year-olds, not that you're intelligent in comparison to the general population.

Given how 4-year-olds are, scoring that high probably just means she's the only 4-year-old that actually sat down and took the test at all instead of scribbling randomly so they could go play sooner. Which I think says something rather bad about her parents, but doesn't really say anything about, you know, the kid.

//Knowing what the test is designed to measure kind of takes the impressiveness out of it. Though MENSA still makes me laugh, "you should buy into my ego-hooked who's who scheme because you're just ... so very smart" has to be the best con artist pitch ever, they probably send the invitations by mail because if they showed up in person they wouldn't be able to stop giggling.
 
2012-04-13 07:11:14 PM  
sharetv.org

I got a 111 on my IQ test, didn't study or anything and got over 100%
 
2012-04-13 07:12:48 PM  
People with super-high IQs who only get doted on and don't use their supposed talent turn into Tea Baggers
 
2012-04-13 07:51:54 PM  
IMO, testing should be re-organized to not fit all stats into one number.
Some is a useful measure of skill that likely won't go away.

Keep the following tests as examples:
Math
Order establisment (which symbol comes next in the series?)
Mechanical questions

Basically, the above are examples of functional knowledge. Adjust the questions complexity for age, of course.

Either ditch, or remove a lot of weight from things like Abstract thinking based on language and such.
How does the test validate testing me on a question about Zimbabwe? How does it figure that i've ever been told about it? I've got a pretty decent memory, imo, and i'm pretty sure some of the word relation questions simply made no farking sense.
(Cat is to Feline as Dog is to ...... 1. cocain 2. Stephen King 4. QWERTY 3. Is it time for lunch yet?)

On top of that
Memory of plain information is a good thing to have some basic measure of, but we know that human memory isn't reliable. It's the analog cassette tape in a bag of magnets compared to the CD. What I learned ten years ago is pretty much gone as far as random data goes, much less 20, 30, etc.

I don't propose specific changes here, just explaining the concept a bit.

IQ tests as they are are almost worthless. Military was on the right notion with the ASVAB, test individual area's of need. since I was in the AF, I'll post their list below, but in general, they split up functional knowledge into a lot of different categories.

Mechanical Aptitude Score - Determined from General Science (GS), Mechanical Comprehension (MC), and Auto/Shop (AS).
Administrative Aptitude Score - Verbal Expression (VE).
General Aptitude Score - Determined from Arithmetic Reasoning (AR) and and Verbal Expression (VE).
Electronics Aptitude Score - Determined from General Science (GS), Arithmetic Reasoning (AR), Mathematics Knowledge (MK), and Electronics Information (EI).

I suppose I can see a reason MENSA would hold back on a more specified and definitive series of measures. Their club and profits would shrink.
 
2012-04-13 08:25:11 PM  

tomWright: timujin: born_yesterday: timujin: IQ tests are bullshiat. Still, really smart kid, I hope she's allowed to have some sort of normal childhood.

In highschool, my psychology teacher gave the class a Mensa entrance test/IQ test, whatever the hell they call it. Most didn't score high enough to get in. We spent a couple of weeks learning how to solve logic problems and taking practice quizzes. At the end of the class, 80% or so passed the test.

/Yeah, we're all really impressed

They gave me one in second grade. I scored embarrassingly high, literally unbelievably high. High enough I didn't believe it until I was a teenager and found the results in some old school stuff my mom had saved. I was given another one in fifth grade and scored about thirty points less, but still well into the genius range. I am not a genius. Turns out I'm just really good at taking tests.

or you were being repressed by your school counselers and parents. That was a common practice not too long ago in the belief that it was better for the kid to not know how smart they were.

It often backfired..


That's what happened to me. I was constantly being told that they "expected better from me". I didn't know why. I was always struggling. Later on I found out it was because I had scored 142 on the IQ test. My problem was extremely poor study habits, a result of being farking bored in school.
 
2012-04-13 08:35:05 PM  
Will be a while before she gets accepted into MENSES though.
 
2012-04-13 08:48:24 PM  
i.imgur.com
/Is a genius too, ya know!
 
2012-04-13 08:56:16 PM  
static.happyplace.com
 
2012-04-13 08:57:39 PM  
Big frakkin' deal. That just means she's much smarter than every other four year old. What, she can read The Pokey Little Puppy all by herself and name 20 colors? IQs changge dramatically over time; especially at such a young age. Sorry, kiddo, you're nothing special.
 
2012-04-13 09:32:57 PM  
I have to say, I'm quite pleased I'm not the only one that feels like I've gotten stupider with age.
 
2012-04-13 09:43:40 PM  

born_yesterday: I have to say, I'm quite pleased I'm not the only one that feels like I've gotten stupider with age.


No, it's that you thought you knew it all when you were younger. When you finally understand that, you're smarter than you ever were. Some people never do, unfortunately.

There's another thought in there. When you do fully realize that, you see that it's a continual process. At 30 you know you were dumb at 20, at 40 you knew you were dumb at 30, etc.

Of course, maybe that's a hindsight is 20/20 thing.
 
2012-04-13 09:50:44 PM  
IQ is supposed to be constant. And I agree with most of the thread, that IQ isn't everything and Mensa will bend over backward to let you in. But the snitstorm that Mensa always causes on Fark makes me laugh.
 
2012-04-13 09:56:42 PM  

born_yesterday: I have to say, I'm quite pleased I'm not the only one that feels like I've gotten stupider with age.


No, we all think you're a dumbass these days.
 
2012-04-13 10:01:26 PM  

DrippinBalls: Newsflash: mensa accepts Cletus McGriffle.


What the hell do you have against Cletus McGriffle? He was one of the finest minds of our time. Too bad about the tractor pull accident.
 
2012-04-13 10:18:48 PM  
I love these threads... but someone should create a bingo card for them.

The first one should be: someone that tested low claims that these tests are BS.

But all I can say for this girl is that I hope that 1) it doesn't go to her head, 2) people around her don't give her a complex over it.

I've seen the horrors it can do.

Being from a group that was tested and became the "prototype" group for high IQ kids and placed in special classes dedicated to "geniuses" with very advanced level schooling, I remember mostly crap coming out of it.

All the kids were pushed as "better" than "normal" kids, expectations were very high, and most of the other kids burned out eventually.

We were told that we'd be a new type of generation, of leaders,of scientists, etc.

Most of the others that I've seen across the years have ended up in average jobs, never making the news for anything... there's only two that got some recognition: one that went into politics, which didn't work out and ended very quickly; and another that made the newspapers for winning a scholar award.

Me (as I'm sure that you're quite curious by now), was the black sheep... failing my classes as I was working full time, my family being a bunch of #&*^$#, and playing counselor to the others of this group, and running the yearbook club (mostly the photography, teaching it, getting everything done), and ending up having the head of this group forcing new testing on me to see if I'd fail the IQ test (or test low enough) to be kicked out and so stop bringing the group's average down. But that didn't work (I'd continue to score at around 160 or higher) and they simply made my life hell until I had enough and dropped out.

I went on to take adult education courses in the evenings, and went from failing notes in high school (45% and such) to around the 90% and higher.

I can admit to having a difficult life, made lots of mistake that regardless of my abilities, simply due to the fact that I didn't have the guidance I would have needed. But I did figure a lot of things in time and turned my life around around 15 years ago, and now have a decent life, and managed to accomplish incredible things, and now work with people from all over the world, and my name/reputation is solid and recognized by many in my field.

I have to admit that I'm not paid as much as I should, but the work, the people, etc. makes it worthwhile. Considering that I've met presidents, kings, prime ministers, high ranking people, I consider that I did good, and there is a side of me that would love to return to the people that put me down, stated that I'd never accomplish to anything and show them that I did good, even better than most of their "pets".

I can only hope that this kid doesn't get he stigma that she may get, and that she manages to have a good life, and accomplish something to make the world a better place.
 
2012-04-13 10:20:27 PM  
Good for her. hopes she keeps it up.

There's clever kids and kids like this who actually have intelligence. Those are the ones who will invent our future.

/dropped out of college for the family business
//tested 145 iq in 2000
 
2012-04-13 10:23:23 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Oh yeah - and IQ seems to be correlated with health and longevity too.
http://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/2004currentdirections.p d f

In summary - Life is not fair.
Attractive people do better in life.
Intelligent people do better in life.
Tall people do better in life.
And the world is filled with racists and sexists

//No wonder my life sucks.


Keep your chin up dude. You may be short, fat, and dumb, but you don't sound like a short, fat, dumb, black woman, so you have that much going for you.

/If I'm wrong, and you are a short, fat, dumb black woman, then I apologize for my error.
 
2012-04-13 10:38:16 PM  

imfallen_angel: I love these threads... but someone should create a bingo card for them.

The first one should be: someone that tested low claims that these tests are BS.

But all I can say for this girl is that I hope that 1) it doesn't go to her head, 2) people around her don't give her a complex over it.

I've seen the horrors it can do.

Being from a group that was tested and became the "prototype" group for high IQ kids and placed in special classes dedicated to "geniuses" with very advanced level schooling, I remember mostly crap coming out of it.

All the kids were pushed as "better" than "normal" kids, expectations were very high, and most of the other kids burned out eventually.

We were told that we'd be a new type of generation, of leaders,of scientists, etc.

Most of the others that I've seen across the years have ended up in average jobs, never making the news for anything... there's only two that got some recognition: one that went into politics, which didn't work out and ended very quickly; and another that made the newspapers for winning a scholar award.

Me (as I'm sure that you're quite curious by now), was the black sheep... failing my classes as I was working full time, my family being a bunch of #&*^$#, and playing counselor to the others of this group, and running the yearbook club (mostly the photography, teaching it, getting everything done), and ending up having the head of this group forcing new testing on me to see if I'd fail the IQ test (or test low enough) to be kicked out and so stop bringing the group's average down. But that didn't work (I'd continue to score at around 160 or higher) and they simply made my life hell until I had enough and dropped out.

I went on to take adult education courses in the evenings, and went from failing notes in high school (45% and such) to around the 90% and higher.

I can admit to having a difficult life, made lots of mistake that regardless of my abilities, simply due to the fact that I didn't have the guidance I w ...


tl;dr

To answer your question, yes, I would like fries with that.

/ :P
//I knew being smart wasn't all it was cracked up to be watching the GT students miss out on recess (the only chance to go outside) to sit inside...and watch us through the window.
///as others have stated, smart [not equal to] test taking ability
 
2012-04-13 11:16:45 PM  

jtown: [images.tvrage.com image 250x150]

/Because 167 is a bigger number than 159


That is too weird!! That episode is on RIGHT NOW!!
 
2012-04-13 11:29:54 PM  
By the third grade I was going to fifth grade reading classes. My SAT score was 1470 when I was 16. I scored in the 99th percentile on the ASVAB when I was 17. My IQ was measured at 132 the one and only time I took an IQ test, when I was 22.

And you know what? By the age of about 25 it was all gone. Now, at 38, I feel downright stupid compared to most people around me. Maybe the smart brain cells all burned out early in life?
 
2012-04-13 11:30:58 PM  
4 going on 40, am i right??
 
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