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2003-10-30 08:41:30 PM
Could it be that people who go to more diverse schools are just less inclined to drink themselves into stupidity?

what exactly is the racial makeup of your standard 'Party School'?

Not that I'm knocking booze. I love it, but I would rather remember my fun.
 
2003-10-30 09:02:27 PM
Diversity is good. Instead of just Beer and Jack, throw in some wine, brandy, and rum too.
 
2003-10-30 09:08:13 PM
Diversity is good. Affirmative action is legalized racism.
 
2003-10-30 11:35:07 PM
I agree with DasNibblet. My white rear sat in college next to students form the same neighborhood, who's families had the same income, who went to school on full grants. I finished paying my loans off early last year. My heritage was the difference between having to pay loans off and going to school for free.

That's why I believe aid should be given by WEALTH class, not RACIAL class. If that was the case odds are niether one of us would have been on a free ride, but wouldn't that have been a fairer scenario? Wouldn't that lead to a more across the board distribution of government funds income wise?
 
2003-10-31 03:50:12 AM
There are a couple of problems with affirmitive action. It is obviously unfair if it gives priority to one race over another because of actions in the past. It also leads to the attitude "he only got in because he's black" which has a negative effect on minorities that managed to get in under their own abilities. There is also the problem that the type of person mor3e willing to take advantage of a situation like that is usually not the type of person who would be better at a university setting or any type of higher learning establishment. Meaning that they are lazy and willing to take the easy out. So this leads to getting a more proportionate number of minorities, but not the ones that deserve it.

More on topic, I do think more chicks leads to less binge dinking, cause it gives peoploe something else to do. Most guys I know who are the type to binge drink aren't the type that would be able to just hang out with the same sex without resorting to some sort of "macho" activity like binge drinking.
 
2003-10-31 05:42:44 AM
More chicks = desire to avoid limp dick
 
2003-10-31 05:47:05 AM
Article title: Diversity MAY Decrease Binge Drinking
Fark title: Diversity WILL Decrease Binge Drinking

But hey, the more extreme you make it sound, the better luck you'll have getting it posted, I guess.
 
2003-10-31 05:50:54 AM
Fark study concludes local6.com paying fark.com to post at least 5 links a day.
 
2003-10-31 05:51:02 AM
If by "diversity," they mean a myriad of beautiful women who want to have sex with me, well, then, yes, I will stop with the binge drinking and get my unprotected sex on!
 
2003-10-31 05:58:03 AM
That's because minorities aren't stupid enough to put something incriminating down on paper fool!
 
2003-10-31 06:06:52 AM
On a global basis Caucasians are a minority.

Where's my reparations?
 
2003-10-31 06:09:11 AM
Well, the black kids are smoking blunts, the latinos are too busy tagging the 'hood, and the Asians, well, let's justs say drinking aint part of the hyper-assimilation process.

This message brought to you by the ad council and the American stereotyping League (the more you know)
 
2003-10-31 06:15:34 AM
SIGH...diversity...is there anything it can't do?
 
2003-10-31 06:20:06 AM
I don't get diversity.
 
2003-10-31 06:23:25 AM
In post-soviet ex-Russia, drinking diversifies you!
 
2003-10-31 06:24:26 AM
Filter THAT!
 
2003-10-31 06:28:48 AM
we have diversity on campus, and we all still tend to binge drink together. mean fcs, this is college, not a gd nunnery!
 
2003-10-31 06:32:26 AM
king_shiat_of_turd_island

My white rear sat in college next to students form the same neighborhood, who's families had the same income, who went to school on full grants. I finished paying my loans off early last year. My heritage was the difference between having to pay loans off and going to school for free.

That's why I believe aid should be given by WEALTH class, not RACIAL class.


I agree, in the long term that's exactly what should happen. Then the conservatives will just start howling about class warfare and stealing from the rich. Same divisive argument from them with a few words substituted. I hope the farkers of the future find it just as boring and trite as we do now.
 
2003-10-31 06:35:14 AM
Just for fun, sustitute "black" for "white" throughout the article and email t to Al Sharpton.
 
2003-10-31 06:45:47 AM
'Underage' is less then 21 there though, isn't it. No wonder they binge drink, they can't exactly walk into a pub and have a nice quite one, can they?
 
2003-10-31 06:55:24 AM
I'll drink to that!
 
2003-10-31 07:06:53 AM
I attend a certain innercity school thats well known for its diversity. Most of the kids are commuters. The thing is, there's plenty of binge drinking because its the city and procurement of alcohol is simple and being drunk and having everything you need within walking distance is one of the best things ever. R0ck.
 
2003-10-31 07:13:16 AM
Diversity + Party Schools = Malt liquor and Mad Dog 20/20. Forty anyone? We getting diverse!
 
2003-10-31 07:21:29 AM
Its totally logical: infinite diversity in infinite combinations......
 
2003-10-31 07:28:36 AM
'Binge drinking'...WTF? Where I come from, we call that 'getting drunk' and it's really not a big deal at all. Leave it to the P.C. schools like Harvard to slap a stigmatic tag on everything.
 
2003-10-31 07:36:32 AM
If you get totally shiat-faced every single day of the week then you don't have to worry about binge drinking cause you're always drunk.
 
2003-10-31 07:38:51 AM
Just a little FYI.

According to most health organizations, including the ones that do these studies, binge drinking is defined as having 4 or more drinks in one sitting.

I, personally, can't remember the last time I went to the bar and had any less than three or four drinks. That's what it takes to get a nice buzz.

So, by the definition of these studies, binge drinking isn't necessarily going out and slamming back a 12 pack in one hour. It's simply sitting back and having a few beers with friends while watching the game at a bar.
 
2003-10-31 07:38:56 AM
Who's to say that men and women of all races and religions don't like to party hard?
 
2003-10-31 08:04:01 AM
There is plenty of "diversity" on the bus I take to and from work. An awful lot of liquid lunches, too, if the smell is anything to go by.
 
2003-10-31 08:11:36 AM
Looking at the rest of the information that Harvard presents, it looks to me like the following would work much better:

1: Ban fraternities.
2: Ban varsity sports.
3: Ban single-sex dorms and require coed living for all students, especially freshmen.
 
2003-10-31 08:18:20 AM
To think this steaming pile came from Harvard. Glad they never accepted me, I would've single-handedly skewed their findings.
 
2003-10-31 08:18:23 AM
What really ticks me off is that we all probably paid for the Harvard study through our taxes for this diversity BS.

Obviously, the term 'binge drinking' is crazy...after all almost every college student gets drink before each fall football game, whether at the stadium or not every week....

The concept that social diversity is the answer to the world's problem is crap. So if these universities are so diverse then why do they promote ethic organizations such as Asian-American clubs? Obviously the right to assemble gives us all this right for these clubs to exist. If they want to true melting pot of cultures then these clubs are counterproductive. People of the same ethnic relationship will naturally be drawn together and their is nothing wrong with that.

Will someone please give me an precise definition of diversity...rather than making people feel good in admission offices?
 
2003-10-31 08:20:02 AM
Total BS
 
2003-10-31 08:23:14 AM
" including physical assault or unwanted sexual advances, vandalized property and interruptions of sleep or study."

Thank god we don't legalize problem drugs like Marijuana.
 
2003-10-31 08:37:08 AM
When I worked for the government we had that diversity crap shoved up our asses 24/7.

If diversity is so great then how do they explain Japan, which functions pretty well as a nation despite a total lack of diversity.
 
2003-10-31 08:37:25 AM
5 drinks in a row? 5 drinks? Only 5? Apparently, I binge drink all the time. I'm just getting a buzz around 4 drinks. I guess there needs to be more diversity in my house. I'll adopt some Latino kids and get an Asian girlfriend.
 
2003-10-31 08:38:44 AM
Diversity isn't about melting pots- it's about mosaics. The idea isn't to assimilate, but to lead ethnophobic people to better understanding of other cultures to hopefully get people to accept them. The idea is to be able to get the best from people of all cultures, from their own frames of reference by creating an environment in which they don't have to conform to exist. A broader pool of ideas.
Affirmative action really wouldn't be necessary once a diverse workplace is achieved.
The greatest challenges to diversity are the infrastructures of organizations that have been historically built based on a white male-dominated culture. They tend to favor white male behavior above others benignly if not intentionally. Also, it is difficult to change the prejudices, to win the hearts of individuals who have grown up with and embraced as truth certain cultural attitudes toward other cultures. For some folks, it's fact and reality that other cultures are wrong or inferior to their own. No questions, it just is. The Diversity philosophy has to combat that.
 
2003-10-31 08:41:06 AM
"They tend to favor white male behavior above others benignly if not intentionally."

What the fark is "white male behavior"? How does it differ from black male behavior or hispanic male behavior?
 
2003-10-31 08:48:50 AM
Historically, business organizations were built in this nation by males of European heritage, so they naturally built into the framework of the work processes and performance appraisals for advancement white European male frame of reference/world view.
When women and people of other cultures entered the workplace in larger numbers, they have had to learn how to adapt their own behavior, backgrounds and viewpoints to get along and get ahead.
 
2003-10-31 08:50:13 AM
Therefore, Diversity works toward non-conformity as an asset rather than as a problem.
 
2003-10-31 08:50:23 AM
What the fark is "white male behavior"? How does it differ from black male behavior or hispanic male behavior?

Keep tossing those softballs.
You make a great straight-man.

*ahem*

I'm sure "white male behavior" includes way less blunt-smoking, forty-drinking, and gang-signing.

It probably covers way more mayonaise-eating and death-metal listening, however.
 
2003-10-31 08:52:09 AM
I'm all in favor of helping disadvantaged people in all, but I just don't get it.

If you work in a widget factory, there is one way to build widgets. There isn't a white way, and a black way, and a hispanic way.

If I need heart surgery I'm not going to say "I would prefer a black surgeon because he can do the surgery the black way." There is one correct way to do it, whether you are white or black, male or female.

Regarding business practices, generally practices are structured to maximize profits, regardless of whether the employees are white black brown or green.
 
2003-10-31 08:58:12 AM
radar1992,
I hope that gives you a little more info on what diversity is supposed to be about.
The Asian-American clubs and any other ethnic club would be fine in a diverse workplace, as long as people of other cultures could also be members.
In my workplace, I am a member of a Native American organization, because my wife and sons have that ancestory and I have an emotional involvement.
I have had over 100 hours of training in diversity and diversity issues. Plus, I work in a very diverse workplace that functions beautifully. That's how I know.
I'm going to bow out now to avoid the race-baiting flame wars and intentional distortions. I'm not up to it today.
 
2003-10-31 08:59:42 AM
2003-10-31 08:37:25 AM SirLoin
5 drinks in a row? 5 drinks? Only 5? Apparently, I binge drink all the time. I'm just getting a buzz around 4 drinks.


This has been the problem with every "binge drinking" study I've ever seen. To me, binge drinking is when you pound a case of Beast, puke, pass out, and wake up in a strange place with no pants.

Seriously, do they even take time into account? 5 beers in 10 minutes, yeah, then maybe there's a problem. But does 5 beers over a couple hours count? That wouldn't even get most people drunk.
 
2003-10-31 09:05:54 AM
giant:

For some folks, it's fact and reality that other cultures are wrong or inferior to their own. No questions, it just is. The Diversity philosophy has to combat that.

You really want to "combat" the idea that American culture is superior to Saudi Arabia's? What else? Maybe I should encourage more of my employees to speak ebonics instead of "white boy" english? Dumbass.
 
2003-10-31 09:08:47 AM
OK.
Lebowsky, actually, there is more than one way to do make a widget. The factory only knows one way because it was created by one type of person. Someone from the other side of the planet comes in and, to him, from his frame of reference, there is an obvious way to do it better, cheaper and to boost profit. He opens his mouth to suggest it and is told that is not the way it's done.
He tries to get his point across, but no one understands where he is coming from nor do they want to take the time to try to understand. Time is money.
Meanwhile, in their competitor's factory, his brother has the same idea for their processes which are essentially the same as factory #1's. His boss sits with him during lunch and listens to him and actually tries to understand. A light goes on. He makes a suggestion to his boss, who talks to his boss, on and on and they implement a new procedure. Bang. Everyone gets a nice bonus check. (okay, so I got a little too carried away.)
Factory #1 finds its market share shrinking. Factory #2 starts changing things around so its workers from other parts of the world feel more free to express ideas from their own world view and factory #2 continues to change and grow, seizing more market share.
General Electric, Sara Lee, Hallmark are just a few of the corporations that have used diversity to benefit their organizations.
 
2003-10-31 09:10:05 AM
gentlegiant,

For some folks, it's fact and reality that other cultures are wrong or inferior to their own. No questions, it just is.

Well, it's the truth. Some cultures are inherently better than other cultures.

Your opinions on diversity exhibit the same sentiment. You believe that a diverse culture (workplace, in this instance) is favorable to a non-diverse culture. It follows that you believe a diverse culture is better than a non-diverse culture; if it were otherwise, you wouldn't be pushing for the advancement of a diverse workplace.
 
2003-10-31 09:10:58 AM
I find the term "white boy" offensive, as well as "redneck". As do many other rural americans.


Just so you know.
 
2003-10-31 09:13:59 AM
one in the stink,
That is particularly the kind of baiting I'm not in the mood to address.
You pick a repressive culture like Saudi Arabia's and compare it to ours. There aren't a lot of Saudis working in our factories. There ARE alot of other people of other cultures that coexist with us daily that could use some consideration. Too much to ask?
You didn't understand a thing I put forward, or more likely, don't want to.
Your ebonics comment is racist.
dumbass.

peace out.
 
2003-10-31 09:14:57 AM
Around here at PSU, all the gookers and blacks band together anyway. the other day i saw a group of asian kids sitting in a circle in the dining hall pouring over what looked like a tv or vcr instruction poster thingy it was big. and thats why im scared of the asians, always plotting and scheming things. creepy. and the black kids dont bother me, it'll be too cold for them to come outside soon anyway. dont think we got latino kids. they musta been killed by the asian kid's super-extreme-death robots.
 
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