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2012-04-13 09:44:33 AM

9beers: HBK: Was she already fired?

In addition to having been fired, she's insisting that a 12 year old be tried as an adult for killing his 2 year old brother. The kid pushed his brother into a bookshelf and he died as a result. She thinks the 12 year old should die in prison. She's refused to accept any plea deals.


I really wish I knew whose troll alt you were.
 
2012-04-13 09:45:52 AM


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I had an exclusive photo of the crime scene to post.

Oh well.
 
2012-04-13 09:50:55 AM

Technoir: Y'all are still missing the point that Martin had no obligation to identify or explain himself to a random person. But whatever. We'll never know exactly what happened, since half the parties involves are dead.


No one is saying that he had that obligation. Zimmerman had every right to question Martin and Martin had every right to ignore him and continue on his way. What he didn't have the right to do is respond with a shove or a punch which is what allegedly happened.
 
2012-04-13 09:51:30 AM

s2s2s2: HAMMERTOE: Zimmerman was not "self-appointed", he was appointed by the Homeowner's Association

Not only that, he was elected coordinator by his neighbors, and the HOA distributed flyers, in February, that instructed people to call George immediately after calling police, if they wanted to report a crime, or suspicious activity.


lucky for the HOA he was acting in a way that was against all operating procedures of all neighborhood watches in the country or they probably could be sued too.
 
2012-04-13 09:53:19 AM

Bathia_Mapes: teeny: Bathia_Mapes: The worst thing I observed were inmates deliberately farting in the CO's face and then laughing about it.

I must be insanely tired, because this made me start giggling madly, and I haven't stopped yet.

/farting in my face means you get punched in the anus

I remember one CO telling an inmate, "If you fart in my face one more time, I'm sticking my baton up your ass".

I damned near fell on the floor laughing.


Because the forcible penetration of a reduced capacity ward of the state by a state officer is amusing to you?

It's amazing how many sociopaths find themselves in jails, and how few on the inside of the bars.
 
2012-04-13 09:53:45 AM
TheShavingofOccam123

Take another hit by reading his profile.



WTF!
 
2012-04-13 09:57:16 AM

Bathia_Mapes: That and there had been some incidences where a bra was used to choke another inmate during a dispute.


That kinda turned me on for a moment
 
2012-04-13 09:58:34 AM

trappedspirit: Bathia_Mapes: That and there had been some incidences where a bra was used to choke another inmate during a dispute.

That kinda turned me on for a moment


I thought I was alone with that feeling.
 
2012-04-13 10:00:15 AM
Deodorant and playing cards?

Dastardly.
 
2012-04-13 10:00:19 AM
www.bluesbrotherscentral.com

"One prophylactic...soiled."
 
2012-04-13 10:01:00 AM

Boxcutta: Oh yeah? Well the jail store called and they're running out of you!

[i.imgur.com image 475x416]


Hey!
 
2012-04-13 10:01:53 AM

indylaw: 9beers: HBK: Was she already fired?

In addition to having been fired, she's insisting that a 12 year old be tried as an adult for killing his 2 year old brother. The kid pushed his brother into a bookshelf and he died as a result. She thinks the 12 year old should die in prison. She's refused to accept any plea deals.

I really wish I knew whose troll alt you were.


Me too. Who was banned in December? Who creates an account on Christmas Day?
 
2012-04-13 10:02:16 AM

PoochUMD: No one is saying that he had that obligation. Zimmerman had every right to question Martin and Martin had every right to ignore him and continue on his way. What he didn't have the right to do is respond with a shove or a punch which is what allegedly happened.


You might want to clarify who you're talking about here.
 
2012-04-13 10:03:50 AM

Technoir: Ah well. They can't protect Zimmerman 100%, 24/7. Someone will get to him


This constitutes an appropriate use of the terms "hunt", "stalk", and "execute."
 
2012-04-13 10:04:14 AM

Headso: s2s2s2: HAMMERTOE: Zimmerman was not "self-appointed", he was appointed by the Homeowner's Association

Not only that, he was elected coordinator by his neighbors, and the HOA distributed flyers, in February, that instructed people to call George immediately after calling police, if they wanted to report a crime, or suspicious activity.

lucky for the HOA he was acting in a way that was against all operating procedures of all neighborhood watches in the country or they probably could be sued too.


Citation needed.

I do wonder though. Is it quantified that he was "on the clock" as it were?

It'd be a shame to ban someone from carrying a gun ever just because they are a member of the watch group.
Bear arms and all that.
 
2012-04-13 10:06:00 AM

9beers:
Nobody said Zimmerman has to be believed. Since he's claiming self defense, it's up to the legal system to prove that his story isn't true. If they can't do that, he walks. So far, there's not one fact that disproves his version of events.


Since no one knows the facts of the case except the people around the police department in Sanford, and I know you don't work there, you must be.........

cdn.bleacherreport.net
 
2012-04-13 10:06:07 AM

Technoir: We'll never know exactly what happened, since half the parties involves are dead.


And that right there is the problem. Not only do we not know exactly what happened, we don't even know with a substantial likelihood what happened.
 
2012-04-13 10:06:18 AM

Technoir: Y'all are still missing the point that Martin had no obligation to identify or explain himself to a random person. But whatever. We'll never know exactly what happened, since half the parties involves are dead.

Ah well. They can't protect Zimmerman 100%, 24/7. Someone will get to him.


Zimmerman wasn't the "random person", he was the Neighborhood Watch Patrol. Martin was the "random person". He didn't even live there. Get your "facts" straight.

I did read your link, however. Nowhere therein does it say anything about policies or bylaws. I do note however that the first paragraphs say something about "...patrols by groups of citizens." So, the real questions at the root of the whole controversy are:

1:Did Zimmerman have any right whatsoever to engage Martin, and vice-versa? What say you to this?

2: Does the average citizen have any right to actively assist the police in enforcing the laws? Does this right extend beyond the protective cocoon of their living room and/ or vehicle, if the suspected person moves into a location not easily visible from these locations?

3: Does a police dispatcher saying, "We don't need you to do that," equal the order, "Break off pursuit immediately."?
 
2012-04-13 10:07:16 AM

cryinoutloud: Since no one knows the facts of the case except the people around the police department in Sanford, and I know you don't work there, you must be.........


I think that's kinda why he qualified it with "So far..."
 
2012-04-13 10:07:30 AM
I do hope he's murdered in prison and then there's a huge race riot anyway. 30 dead minimum.
 
2012-04-13 10:08:21 AM

omeganuepsilon: Headso: s2s2s2: HAMMERTOE: Zimmerman was not "self-appointed", he was appointed by the Homeowner's Association

Not only that, he was elected coordinator by his neighbors, and the HOA distributed flyers, in February, that instructed people to call George immediately after calling police, if they wanted to report a crime, or suspicious activity.

lucky for the HOA he was acting in a way that was against all operating procedures of all neighborhood watches in the country or they probably could be sued too.

Citation needed.

I do wonder though. Is it quantified that he was "on the clock" as it were?

It'd be a shame to ban someone from carrying a gun ever just because they are a member of the watch group.
Bear arms and all that.


If he is calling 911 and chasing down "suspects" in his neighborhood I'd say he is acting in the capacity of a neighborhood watch member. Chasing them down at all is against procedures and with a gun it is really against procedures...
 
2012-04-13 10:09:23 AM

omeganuepsilon: I do wonder though. Is it quantified that he was "on the clock" as it were?


Much like a volunteer firefighter, a neighborhood watch volunteer is never "on" or "off" the clock. Also, I was just referred to this site (new window) See if you can get any more meaning from it than I did as to the legality of Zimmerman's actions.
 
2012-04-13 10:09:58 AM

Scerpes: cryinoutloud: Since no one knows the facts of the case except the people around the police department in Sanford, and I know you don't work there, you must be.........
I think that's kinda why he qualified it with "So far..."


That's why he's been trolling this subject for weeks already, because he admits that he knows nothing. Yup, sounds about right.
 
2012-04-13 10:11:55 AM

Headso: Chasing them down at all is against procedures and with a gun it is really against procedures...


Following to maintain visual contact /= "chasing down". "Chasing down" implies an intent to initiate interaction, something that there is every indication that Martin did, not Zimmerman.
 
2012-04-13 10:12:26 AM

s2s2s2: HAMMERTOE: Zimmerman was not "self-appointed", he was appointed by the Homeowner's Association

Not only that, he was elected coordinator by his neighbors, and the HOA distributed flyers, in February, that instructed people to call George immediately after calling police, if they wanted to report a crime, or suspicious activity.


You are hopelessly lost. Along with Hammertoe, 9Beers, VegasJ....and on and on. I will wait for someone to give me a law, ordinance, regulation, order, or rule that says that George Zimerman had ANY authority to follow Martin, and act like he is law enforcement.

Better: please present evidence that George Zimmerman, by his "self appoointed position" as Neighbourhood Watch Captain, had any authority to detain Martin. And you clowns better understand that "detain" is a pretty easy thing to prove, because if at any point Zimmerman made or presented Martin with the idea that he is "not free to leave or feels restricted from his greedom of movememnt", then Zimmerman detained him. So if Zimmerman stopped him, confronted him, and Martin is basically confronted with questions as to why he is in the neighbourhood", you've lost. And Zimmerman's phone calls to 911 will help prove that.

And of this supposed "fight? Pure speculation on everyone's part, but one thing I don't think I've heard is perhaps there was a struggle, and it was Martin trying to go about his business and Zimmerman wouldn't let him. If that is the case, then Zimmerman is toast.

And then the racist turds like 9Beers, UCF, and VegasJ can go around trying to blame someone for justice being served.
 
2012-04-13 10:15:22 AM

Grables'Daughter: OtherLittleGuy: And, here is a hotlinked still of Katie Featherston from Paranormal Activity:

[pjensi.files.wordpress.com image 640x426]

wat


Pretty much all the speculation and outrage over the death of Trayvon Martin has been spent in the first few threads, whichw was two days's worth. Yet every green that was linked to a story that did not expand on any new revelation just brought out the same arguments ad infinitum ad mauseum ad dead horsies.

The 911 tapes came out, and it was just a matter of when Zimmerman was going to be charged, or at least reinvestigated. Out comes the slew of Zapruderesque evaluations, both here and main stream media, trying to interpret what was said and who said it. Ad infinitum ad mauseum ad dead horsies.

The amount of analysis reminded me of the paranormal investigation shows where they spend hours listening to tape and trying to find some supernatural noise or voice. Couple that with someone here mentioning that the only other person besides Zimmerman who truly knew what happened in the two missing minutes is dead, so it's all speculation. My initial comment was to have Ghost Hunters or Ghost Adventurers hold a paranormal investigation to get a EVP of Trayvon.

But I'm worn out by the ad infinitum ad mauseum ad dead horsies. Plus, it is now not a matter of what actually happened, but when will Zimmerman be convicted and for how long and how pissed off will people be. So any further arguments are moot.

So, the only meaningful contribution I can have to this (and future) discusssion is a shoutback to my "have a paranormal investigation and get a EVP of Trayvon", and I have a picture of someone (preferably a femae) from either a paranormal reality show or from a paranormal film.

Because, as I said, it's no longer a matter of what happened. It's a matter of putting Zimmerman away for enough time for enough people to move along.

tl;dr: I'm worn out by this topic, so here is a sexy picture of a pretty girl.
 
2012-04-13 10:15:34 AM

HAMMERTOE: Headso: Chasing them down at all is against procedures and with a gun it is really against procedures...

Following to maintain visual contact /= "chasing down". "Chasing down" implies an intent to initiate interaction, something that there is every indication that Martin did, not Zimmerman.


ok, even if you were to say that is true he shouldn't have been armed while engaged in this pursuit, er whatever you want to call it... "surveillance operation"
 
2012-04-13 10:20:17 AM

HAMMERTOE: derp duh, derp



Just be quiet.

/plonk
 
2012-04-13 10:20:40 AM

Silly Jesus: Um, perhaps it was a play on the fact that news outlets are reporting up to the minute information like this nonsense?

/not subs


That's how I took this. Definitely a satire of the whole situation.
 
2012-04-13 10:21:13 AM

Headso: he shouldn't have been armed while engaged in this pursuit, er whatever you want to call it


Sanford police chief Bill Lee stated that neighborhood watch volunteers are not encouraged to carry a gun but have a Constitutional right to do so.[43] Lee further stated, "Mr. Zimmerman was not acting outside the legal boundaries of Florida Statute by carrying his weapon when this incident occurred."[55]
 
2012-04-13 10:21:21 AM

HAMMERTOE: Technoir: Y'all are still missing the point that Martin had no obligation to identify or explain himself to a random person. But whatever. We'll never know exactly what happened, since half the parties involves are dead.

Ah well. They can't protect Zimmerman 100%, 24/7. Someone will get to him.

Zimmerman wasn't the "random person", he was the Neighborhood Watch Patrol. Martin was the "random person". He didn't even live there. Get your "facts" straight.

I did read your link, however. Nowhere therein does it say anything about policies or bylaws. I do note however that the first paragraphs say something about "...patrols by groups of citizens." So, the real questions at the root of the whole controversy are:

1:Did Zimmerman have any right whatsoever to engage Martin, and vice-versa? What say you to this?

2: Does the average citizen have any right to actively assist the police in enforcing the laws? Does this right extend beyond the protective cocoon of their living room and/ or vehicle, if the suspected person moves into a location not easily visible from these locations?

3: Does a police dispatcher saying, "We don't need you to do that," equal the order, "Break off pursuit immediately."?


The distance to Zimmerman's parked SUV to where the dead body was located makes the self defense story absurd.

Trayvon was the distance of 3 houses from his destination.

oi41.tinypic.com
 
2012-04-13 10:22:02 AM

OtherLittleGuy: tl;dr: I'm worn out by this topic, so here is a sexy picture of a pretty girl.


Whar picture, whar?
 
2012-04-13 10:23:44 AM

s2s2s2: Headso: he shouldn't have been armed while engaged in this pursuit, er whatever you want to call it

Sanford police chief Bill Lee stated that neighborhood watch volunteers are not encouraged to carry a gun but have a Constitutional right to do so.[43] Lee further stated, "Mr. Zimmerman was not acting outside the legal boundaries of Florida Statute by carrying his weapon when this incident occurred."[55]


yeah, it is against procedure because it opens them up for liability.
 
2012-04-13 10:24:42 AM

SwingingJohnson: The distance to Zimmerman's parked SUV to where the dead body was located makes the self defense story absurd


Did George say he reached his truck?
 
2012-04-13 10:24:48 AM

Mi-5: s2s2s2: HAMMERTOE: Zimmerman was not "self-appointed", he was appointed by the Homeowner's Association

Not only that, he was elected coordinator by his neighbors, and the HOA distributed flyers, in February, that instructed people to call George immediately after calling police, if they wanted to report a crime, or suspicious activity.

You are hopelessly lost. Along with Hammertoe, 9Beers, VegasJ....and on and on. I will wait for someone to give me a law, ordinance, regulation, order, or rule that says that George Zimerman had ANY authority to follow Martin, and act like he is law enforcement.

Better: please present evidence that George Zimmerman, by his "self appoointed position" as Neighbourhood Watch Captain, had any authority to detain Martin. And you clowns better understand that "detain" is a pretty easy thing to prove, because if at any point Zimmerman made or presented Martin with the idea that he is "not free to leave or feels restricted from his greedom of movememnt", then Zimmerman detained him. So if Zimmerman stopped him, confronted him, and Martin is basically confronted with questions as to why he is in the neighbourhood", you've lost. And Zimmerman's phone calls to 911 will help prove that.

And of this supposed "fight? Pure speculation on everyone's part, but one thing I don't think I've heard is perhaps there was a struggle, and it was Martin trying to go about his business and Zimmerman wouldn't let him. If that is the case, then Zimmerman is toast.

And then the racist turds like 9Beers, UCF, and VegasJ can go around trying to blame someone for justice being served.


Zimmerman had no right to detain anyone by his HOA appointed role as neighborhood watch captain. Zimmerman had no right at any point to restrict Martins movement or give the impression that his movement was restricted.

The thing is, there is absolutely no one involved in this case that is suggesting Martin was detained. At some point someone accusing Zimmerman of detaining Martin is going to provide a source.

According to Martins girlfriend, Martin asked why he was being followed and Zimmerman asked what he was doing. At that point someone was shoved/punched. There has never been any mention of anyone saying "Hey, don't move" or "Hey, wait here until the police arrive, I'm neighborhood watch!" It never happened. Everything points to Martin having the opportunity to walk/run home after Zimmerman lost him and stayed on the phone for another minute or two giving information to police, but instead stayed close by allowing the confrontation to occur (whether he initiated it or Zimmerman finally spotted him waiting nearby).
 
2012-04-13 10:25:46 AM

Headso: yeah, it is against procedure because it opens them up for liability.


So the HOA should be on trial?

The Law > HOA NW Guidelines™
 
2012-04-13 10:25:56 AM
Where are the Moon Pies? I was told on FOX News that the prison economy runs on Moon Pies.
 
2012-04-13 10:27:03 AM
Any word on the name of his new boy friend / husband?
 
2012-04-13 10:27:13 AM
images.wikia.com

/came for $5 skyrim shiv
//leaving disappointed
 
2012-04-13 10:28:08 AM

s2s2s2: Headso: yeah, it is against procedure because it opens them up for liability.

So the HOA should be on trial?

The Law > HOA NW Guidelines™


Like I said lucky for them he was acting like dirty harry on his own and they specifically say don't do what he did, so no I don't think anyone can sue them.
 
2012-04-13 10:29:02 AM

StopArrestingMe: someday my prints will come


Gold, Jerry. Gold!
 
2012-04-13 10:30:14 AM

HAMMERTOE: omeganuepsilon: I do wonder though. Is it quantified that he was "on the clock" as it were?

Much like a volunteer firefighter, a neighborhood watch volunteer is never "on" or "off" the clock. Also, I was just referred to this site (new window) See if you can get any more meaning from it than I did as to the legality of Zimmerman's actions.


I'm not vested in the point enough to do a lot of research. He had a gun, legally, and a licence to carry, legally, from what I gather, IE, we'd have heard about other laws broken, surely.

I would wager that any type of 24/7 membership of a watch program would NOT supercede other normal rights unless there is actual state/government law for it.

If it's more of an actual job, and a user has dedicated weekend/shift to watch, then yeah, there's a point there.

There's a reasonable expectation for one to temporarily sacrifice one's right(working a shift), but not so much 24/7/365 loss of that right.
 
2012-04-13 10:30:42 AM

relcec: jolly rancher


I think somebody needs to Google the Jolly Rancher Story.
 
2012-04-13 10:31:14 AM

OtherLittleGuy: Grables'Daughter: OtherLittleGuy: And, here is a hotlinked still of Katie Featherston from Paranormal Activity:

[pjensi.files.wordpress.com image 640x426]

wat

Pretty much all the speculation and outrage over the death of Trayvon Martin has been spent in the first few threads, whichw was two days's worth. Yet every green that was linked to a story that did not expand on any new revelation just brought out the same arguments ad infinitum ad mauseum ad dead horsies.

The 911 tapes came out, and it was just a matter of when Zimmerman was going to be charged, or at least reinvestigated. Out comes the slew of Zapruderesque evaluations, both here and main stream media, trying to interpret what was said and who said it. Ad infinitum ad mauseum ad dead horsies.

The amount of analysis reminded me of the paranormal investigation shows where they spend hours listening to tape and trying to find some supernatural noise or voice. Couple that with someone here mentioning that the only other person besides Zimmerman who truly knew what happened in the two missing minutes is dead, so it's all speculation. My initial comment was to have Ghost Hunters or Ghost Adventurers hold a paranormal investigation to get a EVP of Trayvon.

But I'm worn out by the ad infinitum ad mauseum ad dead horsies. Plus, it is now not a matter of what actually happened, but when will Zimmerman be convicted and for how long and how pissed off will people be. So any further arguments are moot.

So, the only meaningful contribution I can have to this (and future) discusssion is a shoutback to my "have a paranormal investigation and get a EVP of Trayvon", and I have a picture of someone (preferably a femae) from either a paranormal reality show or from a paranormal film.

Because, as I said, it's no longer a matter of what happened. It's a matter of putting Zimmerman away for enough time for enough people to move along.

tl;dr: I'm worn out by this topic, so here is a sexy picture of a pretty girl.


Okay, I get it.

I didn't understand before... but you make a great point.
 
2012-04-13 10:31:56 AM
Zimmerman also bought... t-shirts,

I MURDERED SOMEONE
AND ALL I GOT
WAS THIS
LOUSY T-SHIR
T
 
2012-04-13 10:32:36 AM
Pretty sure its not illegal to walk up to someone and ask them a question
 
2012-04-13 10:32:57 AM

UCFRoadWarrior: Most noticable is that their key "witness" is a hearsay witness who was not at the scene...and may not be allowed to testify.


As long as the trial Judge believes she is telling the truth, her statements will be admitted into evidence. Statements of deceased persons are a clear exception to the hearsay rules

As for the whole "she's only prosecuting becasue of the New Black Panthers", I gotta say, it doesn't take much to make you people piss your pants in fear, does it? The New Black Panthers have been giving you folks nightmares, it seems like, because you never shut the fark up about them.

Apparently a fringe group of noisy kooks is enough to send some folks into paroxysms of fear, as long as they're black kooks
 
2012-04-13 10:33:01 AM

Molavian: OtherLittleGuy: tl;dr: I'm worn out by this topic, so here is a sexy picture of a pretty girl.

Whar picture, whar?


Here. (new window)
 
2012-04-13 10:33:07 AM

Headso: Like I said lucky for them he was acting like dirty harry on his own and they specifically say don't do what he did, so no I don't think anyone can sue them


Right. So it is irrelevant information.
 
2012-04-13 10:35:07 AM

s2s2s2: SwingingJohnson: The distance to Zimmerman's parked SUV to where the dead body was located makes the self defense story absurd

Did George say he reached his truck?


He told the police he was turning to go back to his truck and was attacked.

Trayvon's GF stated she heard the last words Trayvon spoke, "Why are you following me?!".

But at that distance, in an alley around the corner from his parked SUV I'd say he already instigated and committed himself to a confrontation.

I seriously doubt any one would approach a hooded 6'3 stranger in the dark unless they were packing a gun.
 
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