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2012-04-13 08:32:22 AM  
My dad used to work in inmate Commissary (he managed the accounts for his company, not, like, in the prisons). That stuff can be expensive, but it's usually cheap crap. We used to pack kits at home for them - soap, toothpaste, etc. If you spent some time in prison in the general east-coast area from PA to SC you might have used a kit I packed.

Cool story, I know.
 
2012-04-13 08:35:17 AM  
i dont see condoms on his receipt anywhere.
 
2012-04-13 08:36:19 AM  

Grables'Daughter: Farkers sent me books when I was in jail.


Smart, funny, farkin hot *AND* an ex-con?

*swoon*


aaaaaaaand i'm spent.
 
2012-04-13 08:38:55 AM  

arethusa: Bathia_Mapes: arethusa: While this is not breaking news, the link with the investigator's affidavit sure was. I read it and left and now it is not there.

To paraphrase - Profiled and hunted him down, enough to get him for 1st degree, but they aren't going to let anymore information get out to the public.

RTFA. He's being charged with second-degree murder, not first.

I KNOW what he is being charged with; I am repeating what the investigator's report said. They said they had enough for FIRST.

I guess you can read it for yourself when it pops back up.


They may have had enough to charge him with Murder-1, but the DA probably didn't think the evidence was sufficient to get a conviction on it, hence they pulled back to Murder-2. More likely to get a conviction in a murky case when the death penalty is off the table (although I don't remember if FL has the death penalty).
 
2012-04-13 08:39:59 AM  

Grables'Daughter: Farkers sent me books when I was in jail.


So, uh, what were you in for?


(please be public indecency/lewdness *crossing fingers*)
 
2012-04-13 08:41:54 AM  

way south: Vigilantism or the death penalty is ready to lynch the man.


If that happens to Zimmerman, it will just be karma.
 
2012-04-13 08:43:13 AM  

UCFRoadWarrior: Most noticable is that their key "witness" is a hearsay witness who was not at the scene...and may not be allowed to testify.

This is a super-weak case for 2d degree murder...and in researching this Angela Corey....this was done for her re-election purposes..

She has been under attack from...wait for this....the New Black Panthers...for another case she is recently handling.

If this was a sporting event, this charge would be a refs "make up call"


Amen. I knew I had you fav'd for a reason.,

 
2012-04-13 08:43:49 AM  

KOOLmike: Just called the jail and added $100 to his account. They accept credit cards, FWIW.


You have a payphone under your bridge, sir?
 
2012-04-13 08:48:01 AM  

Splish: Aparently jail commissary is priced like a minibar.


You've never been in jail before, have ya? Commissary is a profit center within a jail. Sometimes the contract goes to high bidder, sometimes to the sheriff's best friend. It's just another way to screw the inmates.

soupbone: Nothing is obvious at this point.


Ahem... If you are RUNNING after someone you are NOT STANDING your ground. I thought that was pretty clear.
 
2012-04-13 08:48:57 AM  
Sk.... Dammit. All I win is [Obcious] tag.
 
2012-04-13 08:49:28 AM  
You would think that jails would use their purchasing power to get Walmart like pricing on commissary items. Not for Zimmermans benefit but just to be fair to the poor people.
 
2012-04-13 08:53:47 AM  
If you want to see something hilarious, listen to this black guy talk about black Trayvon protesters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LONUecnsMb8

Link (new window)
 
2012-04-13 08:55:24 AM  

Godscrack: I'm waiting for Zimmerman and Casey Anthony to get married.


Then have a kid, dress it up in a hoodie, go to Disney World and then to the pool for some relaxation.
 
2012-04-13 08:57:36 AM  

wildcardjack: Ahem... If you are RUNNING after someone you are NOT STANDING your ground. I thought that was pretty clear.


He was walking back to his car when he was ambushed by the "kid".
 
2012-04-13 09:00:10 AM  

Venezuelan Beaver Cheese: wildcardjack: Ahem... If you are RUNNING after someone you are NOT STANDING your ground. I thought that was pretty clear.

He was walking back to his car when he was ambushed by the "kid".


How the fark do you know that, dickweed?
 
2012-04-13 09:00:33 AM  

HAMMERTOE: In all actuality, Zimmerman's got just about the same chance of being found guilty as OJ Simpson had. While they had DNA evidence on Simpson, the defense pounded on racial distrust and resentment to make their case, and eventually prevailed, through nothing more than the use of clever rhymes, thanks to the bias of multiple jurors.

This case will go the same way. They're going to hear claims that Zimmerman "profiled" Martin. And the defense will say, "Okay. How does this justify Martin assaulting Zimmerman, rather than explaining to him that he indeed did belong there?" If they're smart, they'll also claim that Martin "profiled" Zimmerman as well. Everything his girlfriend stated points to this fact. They'll reference the fact that Martin felt at ease enough to remain on the phone with his girlfriend, rather than call 911, a logical and obvious course of action to an innocent person who thinks they're in "danger". They'll then point out the fact that Martin deliberately led Zimmerman to a shadowy, secluded area, where the confrontation took place, rather than seek help at the nearest obviously occupied house, also an obvious choice. They'll point out the fact that the statement, "We don't need you to do that," is obviously not an "order" to terminate surveillance of a suspect. Unless the prosecution manages to somehow stack the jury with 12 angry black men looking to punish Zimmerman no matter what, I foresee an innocent verdict at best, or multiple hung juries at worst, because the whole case revolves around Martin's reaction to Zimmerman's answer to Martin's question: Why are you following me? If the defense plays up the "enraged black" angle, (which will be all too easy to do with the recent actions of such organizations as the NBPP,) Zimmerman walks.

Extra points if they come up with a trolly defensive rhyme-slogan of their own. "If they can't prove shiat, you must acquit!"


But why should Martin have had to justify his presence to a man with no legal authority whatsoever to question or detain him? The "Stand your Ground" bullshiat works both ways. Martin had no responsibility to identify or explain himself to a random whispanic dude with a gun. Zimmurderman had no legal authority to question Martin. "Self-Appointed Neighborhood Watch Captain" who is apparently completely ignorant about what Neighborhood *WATCH* entails, carrying a firearm, stalking and confronting people he thinks are suspicious is completely out of line with the Neighborhood Watch program's policies. Observe - Document - Report. Do not confront, do not engage. Observe - Document - Report.

If Zimmurderman had simply followed Neighborhood Watch protocols, a 17yr old young man would not be dead.
 
2012-04-13 09:02:19 AM  

jmomo: Hey looks it's another OJ trial.


It's a reverse OJ, and it's going to be a full bore circus like we've never seen.

At the end of this trial, Florida will burn. Regardless of outcome. Mark my words. The only variable is the amount of damages and deaths.

If Zim is found innocent (ala Casey Anthony) - expect 100 million in property damage and 5-10 dead. If he is found guilty, expect 10-30 million in property damage and 1-3 human lives lost.
 
2012-04-13 09:04:09 AM  
This was a fun thread to wake up to. Good job, Fark.
 
2012-04-13 09:04:16 AM  

brantgoose: Of course, $69.98 of that was a black lawn jockey for his cell.


This made me lawl. I love you insensitive bastards.
 
2012-04-13 09:05:19 AM  
hope the store sells this

moblog.net
 
2012-04-13 09:09:24 AM  

Jake Havechek: Venezuelan Beaver Cheese: wildcardjack: Ahem... If you are RUNNING after someone you are NOT STANDING your ground. I thought that was pretty clear.

He was walking back to his car when he was ambushed by the "kid".

How the fark do you know that, dickweed?


I'm from the future. I was on the jury.
 
2012-04-13 09:10:08 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: Chariset: Bathia_Mapes: Unless they were going to court, female inmates weren't allowed to wear bras, but underwear was okay.

Why no bras? Too many places to hide things?

That and there had been some incidences where a bra was used to choke another inmate during a dispute.



i.imgur.com
 
2012-04-13 09:11:44 AM  

Treefingers: NEWSFLASH me when he gets RAPED


You mean, like, by the media?

OLD NEWS!
 
2012-04-13 09:12:15 AM  

9beers: The water was cold: It was given twice, but it's a moot point. Let's go with your version then: If Zimmerman had followed the instruction not to follow, which was given "ONCE", much less confront, he wouldn't be in this pickle.



Happy?

No, the suggestion was given once. By the way, after the dispatcher says "we don't need you to do that", Zimmerman says "OK" and stops running. You might want to listen to the tape before you make another comment.


And you might want to take a course in assessing evidence before you jump to conclusions. Unless you can provide us with a link to video evidence of what Zimmerman did on the ground after he said, "OK." I was unaware that such evidence exists, or that if it did, it has been made public.

We don't f**king *know* what Zimmerman did on the ground after he said, "OK." He could have continued running after Martin, he could have continued to pursue Martin at a walking pace, he could have stopped where he was, or he could have begun to return to his truck.

This isn't the first or even the second time that you have favored us here with your own special interpretation of what the evidence must mean. Speaking for myself I respectfully ask that you cut the crap out from now on. Thank you.
 
2012-04-13 09:14:44 AM  
Oh yeah? Well the jail store called and they're running out of you!

i.imgur.com
 
2012-04-13 09:15:15 AM  
more like snoozeflash, amirite???
 
2012-04-13 09:15:15 AM  

Technoir: no legal authority whatsoever to question or detain him


Authority to question? He had every right to ask questions.
Authority to detain? When, exactly, did he do that?
 
2012-04-13 09:15:51 AM  

NewportBarGuy: nekom: Wow, they still make those root beer barrels candy? There's your newsflash right there.

Words, sir. You and me will be having them!


You can still find an occasional grocery store with the Brach's pick and mix bins where you can get all that ye olde tyme candy.
 
2012-04-13 09:17:04 AM  
Watching you farkers with your theories, conjectures and amateur sleuth skills is amusing as hell. Please continue.
 
2012-04-13 09:17:59 AM  

TaxiDriver: You would think that jails would use their purchasing power to get Walmart like pricing on commissary items. Not for Zimmermans benefit but just to be fair to the poor people.


When I think "fair to the poor people", I think "the US justice system".

/many (not all) public defenders are shiatheads that couldn't cut it in the private sector
//and consider how many people get locked up for a dime bag or less
///incarceration is just a business in most states
/slashies
 
2012-04-13 09:18:02 AM  

tirob: Unless you can provide us with a link to video evidence of what Zimmerman did on the ground after he said, "OK." I was unaware that such evidence exists, or that if it did, it has been made public


Let's make this easy:

Unless the prosecution can provide us with a link to video evidence of what Zimmerman did on the ground after he said, "OK." I was unaware that such evidence exists, or that if it did, it has been made public.

No evidence he chased > No evidence he did not
 
2012-04-13 09:19:05 AM  

bim1154: Watching you farkers with your theories, conjectures and amateur sleuth skills is amusing as hell. Please continue.


Someone needs to shop Zimm's head onto The Gladiator.
 
2012-04-13 09:24:11 AM  

s2s2s2: Technoir: no legal authority whatsoever to question or detain him

Authority to question? He had every right to ask questions.
Authority to detain? When, exactly, did he do that?


By following and confronting, I'd say his intent was to detain Martin while waiting for the police.

What authority does he have to question someone? Is he a member of a law enforcement organization? Deputized? No, he's just an arsehole with a gun.

Using your logic, the same "authority" you think Zimmerman had to ask questions, gives Martin the same right to say "Fark you, motherfarker. I don't have to tell you shiat."

Unless Martin was trespassing on Zimmerman's personal property, Zimmerman had no authority to follow, confront or question him, let alone execute him.
 
2012-04-13 09:26:15 AM  
And now, for something completely different,,,

American Media/Justice System swings into high gear.
WE will control your thoughts, WE will adjust the light and sound, WE control your very mind, the Outer Limits of American Racism begins,,,
 
2012-04-13 09:26:29 AM  

Technoir: But why should Martin have had to justify his presence to a man with no legal authority whatsoever to question or detain him? The "Stand your Ground" bullshiat works both ways. Martin had no responsibility to identify or explain himself to a random whispanic dude with a gun. Zimmurderman had no legal authority to question Martin. "Self-Appointed Neighborhood Watch Captain" who is apparently completely ignorant about what Neighborhood *WATCH* entails, carrying a firearm, stalking and confronting people he thinks are suspicious is completely out of line with the Neighborhood Watch program's policies. Observe - Document - Report. Do not confront, do not engage. Observe - Document - Report.


-There is no evidence that he detained anyone.
-Martin doesn't have to answer any questions, but being asked a question doesn't give you the right to (allegedly) attack someone.
-He wasn't self appointed,
-There is no evidence that he stalked or confronted anyone.
-He got out of her car to observe where Martin was running so he could document it and report it to police.
 
2012-04-13 09:26:51 AM  
First it was "how dare they charge Zimmerman with a crime?!?"

Now it is "how dare they charge Zimmerman for stuff at the store?!?"

Yeah, this story is defintely simmering down....until the televised trial that is. TruTV party at my house when it starts! No refreshments provided, but there is a 7-11 about 3 blocks away.
 
2012-04-13 09:26:57 AM  

Technoir: But why should Martin have had to justify his presence to a man with no legal authority whatsoever to question or detain him? The "Stand your Ground" bullshiat works both ways. Martin had no responsibility to identify or explain himself to a random whispanic dude with a gun. Zimmurderman had no legal authority to question Martin. "Self-Appointed Neighborhood Watch Captain" who is apparently completely ignorant about what Neighborhood *WATCH* entails, carrying a firearm, stalking and confronting people he thinks are suspicious is completely out of line with the Neighborhood Watch program's policies. Observe - Document - Report. Do not confront, do not engage. Observe - Document - Report.

If Zimmurderman had simply followed Neighborhood Watch protocols, a 17yr old young man would not be dead.


Let's address this one point at a time, shall we?

1) But why should Martin have had to justify his presence to a man with no legal authority whatsoever to question or detain him? By all indications, Martin was the "stranger" in the neighborhood, and in fact didn't even live there. In light of this, why should he have expectation that people won't look at him questioningly?

2) The "Stand your Ground" bullshiat works both ways. Martin had no responsibility to identify or explain himself to a random whispanic dude with a gun. So does bias and "profiling", which you have just proven. Are you insinuating that Zimmerman pulled his gun immediately on Martin and that Martin was just so full of ignorance and black rage that he couldn't control his self?

3) "Self-Appointed Neighborhood Watch Captain" who is apparently completely ignorant about what Neighborhood *WATCH* entails, carrying a firearm, stalking and confronting people he thinks are suspicious is completely out of line with the Neighborhood Watch program's policies. Zimmerman was not "self-appointed", he was appointed by the Homeowner's Association. -And- which Neighborhood Watch program's policies are you referring to? It's not a national organization, you know, with a homogenous nation-wide set of policies and bylaws.

4) Observe - Document - Report. Do not confront, do not engage. Observe - Document - Report. That's all Zimmerman was doing. By Martin's girlfriend's own statement, we have indication that it was Martin, and not Zimmerman, that initiated the confrontation. By the physical facts, we have evidence that it was Martin that led Zimmerman into a dark, shadowy place for the confrontation to take place, rather than stay out in the open and go to the nearest occupied house and ask for help. All Martin had to say was, "I'm staying in that house right *there*," as he was within sight of where he was going. But no, he had to go straight to the old hook-and-jab, rather than keep cool.
 
2012-04-13 09:29:57 AM  

Technoir: and confronting


Speculation.

Technoir: What authority does he have to question someone?


I said right. Trayvon had no obligation to answer.

Technoir: Zimmerman had no authority to follow, confront or question him, let alone execute him.


He had the right to follow, the right to confront, and the right to question. No one said he executed him. Who even knows if he intended the shot to be fatal. If there was a struggle, he could very well have ended up shooting him in the shoulder.

At this point, I just want conclusive, video proof. One way or the other.
 
2012-04-13 09:31:28 AM  

way south: Zimmerman, because of Al Sharpton,


No.

The case had gotten plenty of media attention long before Sharpton opened his mouth. Please quit rehashing talking points that have been debunked in this threads numerous times before.

Innocent or not, whatever the case may be, the willful spread of misinformation on this case has GOT to stop. This goes for both sides.

Cut it the fark out.
 
2012-04-13 09:31:57 AM  

s2s2s2: bim1154: Watching you farkers with your theories, conjectures and amateur sleuth skills is amusing as hell. Please continue.

Someone needs to shop Zimm's head onto The Gladiator.


Here ya go... just for you.

i106.photobucket.com
 
2012-04-13 09:33:17 AM  

HAMMERTOE: Zimmerman was not "self-appointed", he was appointed by the Homeowner's Association


Not only that, he was elected coordinator by his neighbors, and the HOA distributed flyers, in February, that instructed people to call George immediately after calling police, if they wanted to report a crime, or suspicious activity.
 
2012-04-13 09:34:43 AM  

s2s2s2: tirob: Unless you can provide us with a link to video evidence of what Zimmerman did on the ground after he said, "OK." I was unaware that such evidence exists, or that if it did, it has been made public

Let's make this easy:

Unless the prosecution can provide us with a link to video evidence of what Zimmerman did on the ground after he said, "OK." I was unaware that such evidence exists, or that if it did, it has been made public.

No evidence he chased > No evidence he did not


I guess that my sense of irony was lost on you; no such video evidence exists AFAIK; what I was trying to show was 9beers's propensity to interpret evidence in his own way and then to jump to conclusions.

There is a little evidence that Zimmerman pursued Martin on foot at some point--Zimmerman exited his truck, he can be heard breathing heavily during the 911 call, and the confrontation took place between the place where Zimmerman parked his truck and Martin's father's girlfriend's place. We'll see what, if anything, comes out later to supplement this.
 
2012-04-13 09:35:43 AM  

bim1154: s2s2s2: bim1154: Watching you farkers with your theories, conjectures and amateur sleuth skills is amusing as hell. Please continue.

Someone needs to shop Zimm's head onto The Gladiator.

Here ya go... just for you.

[i106.photobucket.com image 573x389]


mm/ entertained! \mm
 
2012-04-13 09:38:31 AM  

tirob: There is a little evidence that Zimmerman pursued Martin on foot at some point--Zimmerman exited his truck, he can be heard breathing heavily during the 911 call, and the confrontation took place between the place where Zimmerman parked his truck and Martin's father's girlfriend's place. We'll see what, if anything, comes out later to supplement this.


Agreed.
 
2012-04-13 09:40:28 AM  

SkinnyHead: Bathia_Mapes: This just in; NO JAIL DOES THAT! Not only aren't they required to, but they don't have the budget to provide snacks, playing cards, puzzles and extra clothing to all inmates.

All they're required to provide is a roof over the inmates' heads, adequate food and clothing. Nothing more. Obviously, some jails do a better job than others.

If you're gonna biatch about bad jails, why don't you go after the one run by Joe Arpaio. He treats inmates like garbage, and we're talking inmates who have yet to be convicted of a crime.

Well, if we are really serious about the presumption of innocence, pretrial detainees should not be treated the same as criminals serving their jail time.


Holy shiat, I agree with skinnyhead

/going to commit suicide, brb.
 
2012-04-13 09:41:15 AM  
The cynic in me thinks that the news outlets are doing this in an attempt for people to go "oh jeeze, not this shiat again" every time something about Zimmerman pops up, and tune out the entire "law" aspect of the whole murder deal.
 
2012-04-13 09:42:20 AM  
George Zimmerman is cooling his heals...

So is he a raid healer or what?
 
2012-04-13 09:44:06 AM  
WTF: FTFA: "George Zimmerman is cooling his heals in jail,"

I guess Yahoo is so broke it can't afford editors or reporters who don't make homonym errors.
 
2012-04-13 09:44:14 AM  

arethusa: My bad. It's not in the affidavit, it is on the second page.

Lead prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda would not discuss what other evidence prosecutors have against the neighborhood watch volunteer, except to say it is enough to support the first-degree felony charge.


Seems they didn't feel they had enough evidence to get it past the grand jury required for a 1st-degree charge.

Just another grand-standing prosecutor.
 
2012-04-13 09:44:18 AM  

HAMMERTOE: Technoir: But why should Martin have had to justify his presence to a man with no legal authority whatsoever to question or detain him? The "Stand your Ground" bullshiat works both ways. Martin had no responsibility to identify or explain himself to a random whispanic dude with a gun. Zimmurderman had no legal authority to question Martin. "Self-Appointed Neighborhood Watch Captain" who is apparently completely ignorant about what Neighborhood *WATCH* entails, carrying a firearm, stalking and confronting people he thinks are suspicious is completely out of line with the Neighborhood Watch program's policies. Observe - Document - Report. Do not confront, do not engage. Observe - Document - Report.

If Zimmurderman had simply followed Neighborhood Watch protocols, a 17yr old young man would not be dead.

Let's address this one point at a time, shall we?

1) But why should Martin have had to justify his presence to a man with no legal authority whatsoever to question or detain him? By all indications, Martin was the "stranger" in the neighborhood, and in fact didn't even live there. In light of this, why should he have expectation that people won't look at him questioningly?

2) The "Stand your Ground" bullshiat works both ways. Martin had no responsibility to identify or explain himself to a random whispanic dude with a gun. So does bias and "profiling", which you have just proven. Are you insinuating that Zimmerman pulled his gun immediately on Martin and that Martin was just so full of ignorance and black rage that he couldn't control his self?

3) "Self-Appointed Neighborhood Watch Captain" who is apparently completely ignorant about what Neighborhood *WATCH* entails, carrying a firearm, stalking and confronting people he thinks are suspicious is completely out of line with the Neighborhood Watch program's policies. Zimmerman was not "self-appointed", he was appointed by the Homeowner's Association. -And- which Neighborhood Watch program's policies are you referrin ...


http://www.usaonwatch.org/about/neighborhoodwatch.aspx? - seems pretty National and organized to me....and feel free to link the articles where it says he ws appointed by anybody.. I've not seen it anywhere in the articles I've read, they usually say "self appointed watch captain" if they mention it. And no, I'm not going digging. You're trying to prove ME wrong, remember? You do the farking work.

Y'all are still missing the point that Martin had no obligation to identify or explain himself to a random person. But whatever. We'll never know exactly what happened, since half the parties involves are dead.

Ah well. They can't protect Zimmerman 100%, 24/7. Someone will get to him.
 
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