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2012-04-13 05:30:20 AM  

CliChe Guevara: "Zimmerman claims that he shot Martin in self defense after the teen knocked him down and went for Zimmerman's weapon"

Zimmerman keeps claiming Martin attacked him and went after his weapon. I can't believe he thinks this will help him in any way. If he approached Martin with his weapon out, as he is suspected of doing and seems to keep confirming himself, he is farked. If so, Martin would befully in the clear under SYG laws for any attack on Zimmerman at that point, and Zimmerman even more farked than he already seems to be.


I believe the story is it was in the holster, Martin saw it as he was beating him up, and then went after it.
 
2012-04-13 05:31:18 AM  

MyRandomName: We get it. Liberals hate Hispanics almost as much as they hate rich people.


Wanting a Dirty Harry wannabe in jail for shooting an unarmed teenager he was following for no reason isn't really a race issue.
 
2012-04-13 05:38:28 AM  

stoli n coke: MyRandomName: We get it. Liberals hate Hispanics almost as much as they hate rich people.

Wanting a Dirty Harry wannabe in jail for shooting an unarmed teenager he was following for no reason isn't really a race issue.


It is when one side wants to cheerlead any flimsy reason for shooting a black person, and the other side wants to cheerlead any filmsy reason for removing second amendment rights.
 
2012-04-13 05:40:04 AM  

soupbone: Nothing is obvious at this point. This is what pro-Martin and pro-Zimmerman posters here fail to grasp.


But here is their logic.

The guy you quoted is anti-zimm. You called him wrong, ergo, you're pro-zimm.

You get into a discussion about why his stance is wrong, and you end up looking pro-zimm to others.

In all actuality, there aren't that many pro-zimm people. There are a LOT of us that defend due process, innocent until proven guilty, etc etc.

Some anti-zimm states that X had to have happened, when there were 100 other possibilities. it doesn't take a pro-zimm to point that out and give examples.

Even I would argue with the few pro-zimm's, but i many some are trolls, more or less, like 9beers, so, like, what's the point.

The anti-zimm camp, though, is HUGE. The lynch mob movement has gained a lot of momentum.

True, now that he's in custody, a lot of it will die down, but there are still a ton of people who see a dead kid, and immedately let rage at that sadness shut down their ability to be rational.

But whatever. I think it's funny, yet, a really sad indicator about the intelligence of the unwashed masses.
 
2012-04-13 05:41:32 AM  

CliChe Guevara: stoli n coke: MyRandomName: We get it. Liberals hate Hispanics almost as much as they hate rich people.

Wanting a Dirty Harry wannabe in jail for shooting an unarmed teenager he was following for no reason isn't really a race issue.

It is when one side wants to cheerlead any flimsy reason for shooting a black person, and the other side wants to cheerlead any filmsy reason for removing second amendment rights.


Not even a second amendment issue. Responsible gun ownership is fine, but this guy obviously was not a responsible gun owner.
 
2012-04-13 05:43:08 AM  

omeganuepsilon: but i many some are trolls


I accidently there.

"But many are trolls"
 
2012-04-13 05:48:25 AM  

The water was cold: you are a puppet: YELLOL: When does Obama send in the predator drones?

It's obviously way too late to send in the Navy SEAL corpse men.

They probably couldn't cut the mustard anyway.

muster - not mustard -- http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/muster


Link (new window)

Link (new window)

Origin unknown. It may be muster or mustard.
 
2012-04-13 06:09:33 AM  

Nabb1: With this kind of publicity, his attorneys may have grounds to change the venue of the trial to Mars pretty soon.


No way they will change venue

There is a reason why the local State Atty did not want to charge....this Special Prosecutor will learn real quick that Seminole County is not fartsack stupid like the rednecks in Duval.

Looks like this Angela Corey charged Zimmerman because she had to make up to black community for going after a 12 yr old....the New Black Panthers were protesting her for that.

Knowing the Black Racists and White Guilt Liberals who want to lynch Zimmerman...they will use this to claim "he's guilty"
 
2012-04-13 06:12:31 AM  

Godscrack: I'm waiting for Zimmerman and Casey Anthony to get married.


Not gonna happen....she wears hoodies. She was booked wearing one.
 
2012-04-13 06:16:34 AM  

arethusa: While this is not breaking news, the link with the investigator's affidavit sure was. I read it and left and now it is not there.

To paraphrase - Profiled and hunted him down, enough to get him for 1st degree, but they aren't going to let anymore information get out to the public.


That is the prosecutors "version". It does not mention the two witnesses who saw Martin on top of Zim, beating him. And, this prosecutors main witness is a witness that may not be allowed to testify as it is a "hearsay" witness

And seeing how short Zim is....jurors are not going to buy he was the agressor. No way
 
2012-04-13 06:19:32 AM  

SkinnyHead: Why are they charging him for these necessities? Isn't the state responsible for providing him with the necessities of life?


Nope...unless the inmate is real destitute...and then only very basic items

All inmates have "accounts" or "chits"...and use them in the prison commissary to buy goods.
 
2012-04-13 06:20:41 AM  

joshzsmith: The water was cold: you are a puppet: YELLOL: When does Obama send in the predator drones?

It's obviously way too late to send in the Navy SEAL corpse men.

They probably couldn't cut the mustard anyway.

muster - not mustard -- http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/muster

Link (new window)

Link (new window)

Origin unknown. It may be muster or mustard.


I'm leaning to mustard.
The muster one could be a corruption of "to pass muster"

and, from your link
There has been an association between the heat and piquancy of mustard and the zest and energy of people's behaviour. This dates back to at least 1672, when the term 'as keen as mustard' is first recorded. 'Up to mustard' or just 'mustard' means up to standard in the same way as 'up to snuff'. 'Cutting' has also long been used to mean 'exhibiting', as in the phrase 'cutting a fine figure'. Unless some actual evidence is found for the other proposed explanations, the derivation of 'cutting the mustard' as an alternative way of saying 'exhibiting one's high standards' is by far the most likely.
 
2012-04-13 06:26:38 AM  

9beers: The affidavit reads like it was written by somebody who browsed a few of the Fark threads on the subject. A first year law student could win this case. Given the fact that Zimmerman's attorney has 30 years of criminal defense experience, he'll rip this to shreds so badly that the prosecutor will resign before she has a chance to be fired again.


Yes.

Most noticable is that their key "witness" is a hearsay witness who was not at the scene...and may not be allowed to testify.

This is a super-weak case for 2d degree murder...and in researching this Angela Corey....this was done for her re-election purposes..

She has been under attack from...wait for this....the New Black Panthers...for another case she is recently handling.

If this was a sporting event, this charge would be a refs "make up call"
 
2012-04-13 06:28:01 AM  

SkinnyHead: Why are they charging him for these necessities? Isn't the state responsible for providing him with the necessities of life?


They don't give those things to white people, we have to pay.

/what the f*ck kind of answer were you expecting, troll?
 
2012-04-13 06:29:03 AM  
Why hasn't someone set up a twitter account to tweet us when he takes a shiat or a piss?

/no wonder American is circling the drain.
 
2012-04-13 06:50:43 AM  
Of course, $69.98 of that was a black lawn jockey for his cell.
 
2012-04-13 06:50:50 AM  
who gives a fark???

//really???
 
2012-04-13 06:54:58 AM  
I think that subby is making the point that the news coverage has degenerated into farce.
 
2012-04-13 07:04:25 AM  
In all actuality, Zimmerman's got just about the same chance of being found guilty as OJ Simpson had. While they had DNA evidence on Simpson, the defense pounded on racial distrust and resentment to make their case, and eventually prevailed, through nothing more than the use of clever rhymes, thanks to the bias of multiple jurors.

This case will go the same way. They're going to hear claims that Zimmerman "profiled" Martin. And the defense will say, "Okay. How does this justify Martin assaulting Zimmerman, rather than explaining to him that he indeed did belong there?" If they're smart, they'll also claim that Martin "profiled" Zimmerman as well. Everything his girlfriend stated points to this fact. They'll reference the fact that Martin felt at ease enough to remain on the phone with his girlfriend, rather than call 911, a logical and obvious course of action to an innocent person who thinks they're in "danger". They'll then point out the fact that Martin deliberately led Zimmerman to a shadowy, secluded area, where the confrontation took place, rather than seek help at the nearest obviously occupied house, also an obvious choice. They'll point out the fact that the statement, "We don't need you to do that," is obviously not an "order" to terminate surveillance of a suspect. Unless the prosecution manages to somehow stack the jury with 12 angry black men looking to punish Zimmerman no matter what, I foresee an innocent verdict at best, or multiple hung juries at worst, because the whole case revolves around Martin's reaction to Zimmerman's answer to Martin's question: Why are you following me? If the defense plays up the "enraged black" angle, (which will be all too easy to do with the recent actions of such organizations as the NBPP,) Zimmerman walks.

Extra points if they come up with a trolly defensive rhyme-slogan of their own. "If they can't prove shiat, you must acquit!"
 
2012-04-13 07:10:52 AM  

mc_madness: Do you get sexual favors in prison too?


I read that as sexual flavors....which may also be true...
 
2012-04-13 07:12:46 AM  

HAMMERTOE: In all actuality, Zimmerman's got just about the same chance of being found guilty as OJ Simpson had.


This case may never even make it to trial.

Under Florida law, the defense is entitled to a pre-trial evidentiary hearing to determine whether the provisions of the "stand your ground" law apply. That law provides actual immunity from prosecution, not just the right to use self-defense as an affirmative defense at trial.

And regardless of how the judge decides, I expect that decision to be appealed all the way to the Florida Supreme Court. Which means that there won't be an actual trial for a long time. And if Zimmerman wins, there won't be one at all.
 
2012-04-13 07:15:44 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: ksdanj: Bathia_Mapes: Oh, and you're a f*cking troll too.

I've never seen this side of Bathia_Mapes.

I think I like it...

Thanks. :-D


I LOVE it! What an awesome thing to wake up to.
 
2012-04-13 07:20:58 AM  

Cybernetic: HAMMERTOE: In all actuality, Zimmerman's got just about the same chance of being found guilty as OJ Simpson had.

This case may never even make it to trial.

Under Florida law, the defense is entitled to a pre-trial evidentiary hearing to determine whether the provisions of the "stand your ground" law apply. That law provides actual immunity from prosecution, not just the right to use self-defense as an affirmative defense at trial.

And regardless of how the judge decides, I expect that decision to be appealed all the way to the Florida Supreme Court. Which means that there won't be an actual trial for a long time. And if Zimmerman wins, there won't be one at all.


I think the law is based in large part on the South Park "He's comin' right at us!' defense.
 
2012-04-13 07:22:18 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: Grables'Daughter: Farkers sent me books when I was in jail.

You were in jail?


Yep.

DUI.
 
2012-04-13 07:33:10 AM  

HAMMERTOE: In all actuality, Zimmerman's got just about the same chance of being found guilty as OJ Simpson had.


The difference is money and fame.
OJ had done his stint in both football and as an actor. He had the money for quality representation, and the public had known him as a kind hearted jock type who didn't seem like a double murderer. Its a safe bet that the Jury's reasonable doubt sprung from that familiarity.

Zimmerman, because of Al Sharpton, was introduced as a monster despite being unworthy of the nations rage.
Listen to how people talk. The same crowd that says it doesn't believe in Vigilantism or the death penalty is ready to lynch the man. We've got gang leaders and contract killers who are responsible for the organized murder of dozens of black men, and you hardly hear a peep on the news about public disdain them.

In the end it should have come down to explaining how a scared and innocent Trayvon ended up in fisticuffs range of Zimmerman. Most people who are running for their lives from a stranger keep running. There is a gap in time and judgement that simply doesn't make sense.
A good Lawyer can probably prove why its a problem. But if the Jury is obsessed with finding guilt, it might not matter.
 
2012-04-13 07:36:59 AM  

cman: I voted up

This is not newsworthy and Yahoo needs to be chastised from its readers.


While I understand your intentions it would seem that you are just playing into their game. Any story printed about Zimmerman will bring in readers and those readers = money. If I was a journalist I would have paid Zimmerman for dibs on his receipt, it's bait for readers wanting information on the case, but the good evidence won't hit until trial. So how do you turn a stalled story into money? Just throw random crap out.

2,000 people recommend this story, 94 Tweets, and 8 shares on Linked In. Not to mention all of the facebook people with the Yahoo News Feed app that will post notifications saying they read this story. If they foot his entire commissary expense just to get the receipt they would still make more money on it in the end by people clicking advertisements.
 
2012-04-13 07:43:42 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: I'm guessing that they feel there's a better chance of getting a conviction with a second degree murder charge. Even then, the maximum sentence for that is life in prison.


Florida prosecutors learned a hard lesson from the Casey Anthony trial. Unless you have a 110% open shut case, do not try and go for the maximum charge just because outside sources pressured you to.

If they went for a lesser charge, Casey would be in jail right now. They probably don't have a perfect case against Zimmerman. Although yes, the sentence is life for 2nd degree so it's probably good enough.
 
2012-04-13 07:45:40 AM  

unyon: He better be careful- packing around all that candy, he's liable to get shot.


Yeah, because Seminole County is so hardcore.
 
2012-04-13 07:54:45 AM  
Why waste money on beef sticks. Should be plenty of those hanging about.
 
2012-04-13 07:57:10 AM  
He's gonna get fat again in jail.
 
2012-04-13 07:57:51 AM  

hinten: There is no need to know the victim in advance for first degree murder to apply or more accurately, no need for premeditation and deliberation. Intentionally using a deadly weapon or instrument against the victim authorizes a permissive inference of intent to kill.

Florida

In Florida, a person is guilty of first degree murder when it is perpetrated from a premeditated design to result in the death of a human being. A person is also guilty of first degree murder if they cause the death of any individual during the commission of a predicate felony regardless of actual intent or premeditation. This is called felony murder. This offense is categorized as capital offense, if convicted the offender could possibly receive the death penalty in the State of Florida.[15][16]



There's absolutely no way they could prove a premeditated 1st degree murder charge. They've got a considerable challenge just proving 2nd degree --my guess is they're hoping to plea it down to manslaughter.
 
2012-04-13 07:59:28 AM  

CliChe Guevara: "Zimmerman claims that he shot Martin in self defense after the teen knocked him down and went for Zimmerman's weapon"

Zimmerman keeps claiming Martin attacked him and went after his weapon. I can't believe he thinks this will help him in any way. If he approached Martin with his weapon out, as he is suspected of doing and seems to keep confirming himself, he is farked. If so, Martin would befully in the clear under SYG laws for any attack on Zimmerman at that point, and Zimmerman even more farked than he already seems to be.


Nevermind that, CCW law in FL does not look kindly upon people in public who insert themselves into difficult situations and then use their CCW in order to defend themselves. The ultimate question remains though, did Zimmerman approach Trayvon with any mal-intent?

It could have been a simple "Hey, how ya doing, who do you know around here" type conversation where Trayvon snapped and came back at him

Or

Zimmerman chased trayvon around, lost him, then on seeing him again became hostile which then Martin would be allowed to stand his ground.

I agree with a few posters here. This murder 2 charge is going to be something where they think they can get a conviction and even so it will likely be reduced to something like 5 years time with 5 years probation. His attorneys will get to see the prosecution's version of what happened and form their defense from there. Should be interesting.
 
2012-04-13 08:04:50 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: SkinnyHead: Why are they charging him for these necessities? Isn't the state responsible for providing him with the necessities of life?

It's that way in nearly every jail. He gets the necessities, but like any other inmate, if he wants snacks, certain items of clothing, distractions such as puzzle books, playing cards, etc. that is paid for by the inmate. The latter do not qualify as "necessities of life".

Oh, and you're a f*cking troll too.


www.popsci.com
I think your sarcasm detector is broken. There is a difference between making a silly joke which everyone but you got, and being a troll.

Unless you're the one that is trolling, which in that case, well done sir.
 
2012-04-13 08:07:31 AM  

jehovahs witness protection: Since he killed a thug while fighting for his life, maybe some more thugs should be killed to make it worth while.
Show your "grill", take a bullet.


Wrong thread buddy.
This is about Zimmerman, a person who stalked and murdered someone not involved in criminal acts at the time he shot them.
I have as much right to assume you're a thug and kill you, but apparently it's a crime for people to show their teeth or merely exist and if you do, then people are allowed to chase you down and murder you.
And that's ignoring the racial tones and racism behind your use of "thug" and "grill". Yeah, I know "people who notice my racism are the real racists!!!!" etc. etc.
Now if I'm wrong and you really just enjoy vigilantism and attacking thugs, well here's an organization for you .
You might also want to contact the various Occupy groups and black blocs who spend many of their days defending themselves from the most powerful street gang and collection of thugs in the country: the police.
 
2012-04-13 08:08:01 AM  
Doesnt matter how little time they give him. They could give him a 1 year sentence, its still a death sentence. Someone will kill him in jail.
 
2012-04-13 08:11:12 AM  

Splish: Aparently jail commissary is priced like a minibar.


It's horrible.

$4.00 for a $1.00 bottle of Suave shampoo.

Yeah, the inmates aren't just getting raped by other inmates.
 
2012-04-13 08:11:28 AM  
And, here is a hotlinked still of Katie Featherston from Paranormal Activity:

pjensi.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-04-13 08:15:13 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: And, here is a hotlinked still of Katie Featherston from Paranormal Activity:

[pjensi.files.wordpress.com image 640x426]


wat
 
2012-04-13 08:15:22 AM  

Nabb1: With this kind of publicity, his attorneys may have grounds to change the venue of the trial to Mars pretty soon.


did he dump the bad sanford lawyers for a really good lawyer or just another bad lawyer?
 
2012-04-13 08:16:06 AM  

ChuDogg: [i42.tinypic.com image 640x497]

Hey guys, I was able to figure this out.
Based on his receipt and what he bought, I brought up a google maps overlay of Seminole County Jail and as you can see we can make a pretty good recreation of his movement. I've narrowed down where his Jail cell was, so he was likely escorted to the County Jail first by the guards to get him the items he needed. Since he's in protective custody it's usually standard policy to give atleast a half hour recreation time, so after getting the items he needed he headed over to the outside recreation area where he enjoys his beef sticks and white cheddar pop corn. From there he heads back to the common area where he makes a few phone calls, showers up, and heads back to the cell for a long day of solitaire and crossword puzzles.

Also did anyone notice the time? He made this purchase at 9:37 AM... IDK Not sure what that means but depending on what side you fall on you could arrive to a number of conclusions. Personally I think he's innocent and the more facts that come out the more the original narrative begins to fall apart.



Right here. C'mon, bump it. You earned it.

i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-04-13 08:16:30 AM  

mxwjs: so they don't sell Skittles?


mxwjs made me smile.
 
2012-04-13 08:19:06 AM  
1.bp.blogspot.com

Don't worry. I'll get her
 
2012-04-13 08:19:16 AM  
I'm suprised this wasn't on the list

i180.photobucket.com
 
2012-04-13 08:20:06 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: SkinnyHead: Bathia_Mapes: This just in; NO JAIL DOES THAT! Not only aren't they required to, but they don't have the budget to provide snacks, playing cards, puzzles and extra clothing to all inmates.

All they're required to provide is a roof over the inmates' heads, adequate food and clothing. Nothing more. Obviously, some jails do a better job than others.

If you're gonna biatch about bad jails, why don't you go after the one run by Joe Arpaio. He treats inmates like garbage, and we're talking inmates who have yet to be convicted of a crime.

Well, if we are really serious about the presumption of innocence, pretrial detainees should not be treated the same as criminals serving their jail time.

Most convicted criminals serve their time in prison, not a county jail. If you're serving a sentence in a county jail, chances are it's for a year or less.

Tell you what. If you're so f*cking concerned about non-convicted jail inmates not having any "common comforts", why don't you deposit some funds in their jail accounts? The jail Zimmerman is in even takes credit cards.

And while you're at it, just remember that there are lots of innocent people in the world, people who aren't in jail, who don't have any common comforts whatsoever. Aren't they just as important? Don't they deserve adequate food, clothing and shelter? Maybe you could donate some money to a food bank or shelter.


why would you even waste your time on that dumbass? (skinnyhead, not Zimmerman)
 
2012-04-13 08:22:16 AM  
George Zimmerman is cooling his heals in jail

For the ultimate faceroll heroic healing spec, get the full tier 1 Cenarion Rainment set. Its 8 piece set bonus is a 50% reduction to Tranquility's CD. Combine that with the 60% CD reduction from 2/2 Improved Tranquility, and you got yourself a Tranquility with no CD!
 
2012-04-13 08:23:23 AM  

jehovahs witness protection: Since he killed a thug while fighting for his life, maybe some more thugs should be killed to make it worth while.
Show your "grill", take a bullet.


Also, I've heard the New Black Panthers are putting out bounties on thugs to be killed.
I mean, I have some reservations about their organization's racism, but you're not the kind to get bothered by such attitudes.
 
2012-04-13 08:23:30 AM  

Grables'Daughter: Bathia_Mapes: Grables'Daughter: Farkers sent me books when I was in jail.

You were in jail?

Yep.

DUI.


The cops are still faping to her mugshot, too.
 
2012-04-13 08:25:43 AM  
This is an unauthorized thought process.
 
2012-04-13 08:25:43 AM  
Thar is a reason whuffo' th' local State Atty did not be hankerin' t'charge....this Special Prosecuto' will larn real quick thet Seminole County is not fartsack stoopid like th' rednecks in Duval, ah reckon.

Looks like this hyar Angela Co'ey charged Zimmerman on account o' she had t'make up t'black community fo' gwine af'er a 12 yr old, cuss it all t' tarnation....th' Noo Black Panthers were protestin' her fo' thet.

Knowin' th' Black Racists an' White Guilt Liberals who be hankerin' t'lynch Zimmerman, as enny fool kin plainly see...they will use this hyar to claim "he's guilty"
 
2012-04-13 08:25:58 AM  

omeganuepsilon: joshzsmith: The water was cold: you are a puppet: YELLOL: When does Obama send in the predator drones?

It's obviously way too late to send in the Navy SEAL corpse men.

They probably couldn't cut the mustard anyway.

muster - not mustard -- http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/muster

Link (new window)

Link (new window)

Origin unknown. It may be muster or mustard.

I'm leaning to mustard.
The muster one could be a corruption of "to pass muster"

and, from your link
There has been an association between the heat and piquancy of mustard and the zest and energy of people's behaviour. This dates back to at least 1672, when the term 'as keen as mustard' is first recorded. 'Up to mustard' or just 'mustard' means up to standard in the same way as 'up to snuff'. 'Cutting' has also long been used to mean 'exhibiting', as in the phrase 'cutting a fine figure'. Unless some actual evidence is found for the other proposed explanations, the derivation of 'cutting the mustard' as an alternative way of saying 'exhibiting one's high standards' is by far the most likely.


Looking at the context, I just assumed mustard was used as an Obama reference.
 
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