Not sure why there charging him for this. The state is supposed to provide the bare necessities, such as the right to bare arms. But libs have been eroding these rights for years, hence the reason ZimmerMAN is in jail to begin with. Going to jail for defending yourself...this is life under the seedy rule of Barack "Hakuna" Omatada. America is like a whole new world with this guy in charge, and I do NOT want to be part of that world. The "stand your ground" clause of the constution says you should be able to shoot people who scare you, no strings attached, and thats why there are no strings on me and I will continue to honor the Founders by shooting high homeboys like they intended (I am NOT racist, by homeboys I meant people of all colors of the wind [I dont even see people in terms of color)]) and if you got a problem with that and want to start something with me, be my guest and be a man. Because I am armed, I AM a MAN, and Ill make a man out of you too by shooting you. The cops wont know who did it at first but then someday my prints will come back to haunt me and theyll match my ballistics, but they still cant charge me because I stood my ground and the Contstution supercedes the states. And then I will kill more and more people until everyone is dead and THEN I will be safe. Its called the circle of life, deal with it libs.

arethusa: TheShavingofOccam123: The reason why they went to second degree and not first is because they figured a grand jury would never indict on first degree murder. By going second degree, they guaranteed they could charge and pretty much guarantee no conviction.

I'm assuming Florida allows pleading down to a lesser charge so he could plead guilty to a lesser charge and do some time. Certainly not the minimum 19 years to life for second degree.

That's my understanding according to those who know what they are talking about.

Charge him higher and let it plead down. I really only posted that so that six pack and a half could get a his racist a** in an uprorar.

But I wouldn't want to be the prosecutor that lets him plea down to probation. I would bet the prosecutors would be happier with a quick trial and no conviction.

Trayvon's mother said she figures it might have been an accident so I think some people would be comfortable with probation or a few years.

arethusa: While this is not breaking news, the link with the investigator's affidavit sure was. I read it and left and now it is not there.

To paraphrase - Profiled and hunted him down, enough to get him for 1st degree, but they aren't going to let anymore information get out to the public.

Bathia_Mapes: arethusa: Bathia_Mapes: arethusa: While this is not breaking news, the link with the investigator's affidavit sure was. I read it and left and now it is not there.

To paraphrase - Profiled and hunted him down, enough to get him for 1st degree, but they aren't going to let anymore information get out to the public.

RTFA. He's being charged with second-degree murder, not first.

I KNOW what he is being charged with; I am repeating what the investigator's report said. They said they had enough for FIRST.

I guess you can read it for yourself when it pops back up.

I'm guessing that they feel there's a better chance of getting a conviction with a second degree murder charge. Even then, the maximum sentence for that is life in prison.

From what we know so far, which really isn't much, they barely have enough to make 2nd degree murder stick. Despite her claims to the contrary, the prosecutor bowed to public pressure. At some point they may offer a plea deal for manslaughter, but I doubt it. The pressure to get a conviction and avoid a riot will be too much. There will be a trial with Zimmerman walking in the end. Then we'll have the riots.

9beers: relcec: god damn jolly ranchers suck ass.

Are you insane? Watermelon Jolly Ranchers are the best candy ever.

you have a bad pallet.
the jolly rancher is the shiatiest of all the hard candies.
I'd rather have worthers orignials, life savers, or even rock candy if I had two broken femurs and was trapped in a dry stream bed in the sonora desert.

Do you get sexual favors in prison too?

Just called the jail and added $100 to his account. They accept credit cards, FWIW.

SkinnyHead: Bathia_Mapes: SkinnyHead: Why are they charging him for these necessities? Isn't the state responsible for providing him with the necessities of life?

It's that way in nearly every jail. He gets the necessities, but like any other inmate, if he wants snacks, certain items of clothing, distractions such as puzzle books, playing cards, etc. that is paid for by the inmate. The latter do not qualify as "necessities of life".

Oh, and you're a f*cking troll too.

He's not in jail to be punished. The state owes him more than just bread and water. If they're going to hold him without bail, they should at least provide him with common comforts.

like a flat screen tv and a kindle.
maybe they just owe him what everyone else in jail gets

StopArrestingMe: Not sure why there charging him for this. The state is supposed to provide the bare necessities, such as the right to bare arms. But libs have been eroding these rights for years, hence the reason ZimmerMAN is in jail to begin with. Going to jail for defending yourself...this is life under the seedy rule of Barack "Hakuna" Omatada. America is like a whole new world with this guy in charge, and I do NOT want to be part of that world. The "stand your ground" clause of the constution says you should be able to shoot people who scare you, no strings attached, and thats why there are no strings on me and I will continue to honor the Founders by shooting high homeboys like they intended (I am NOT racist, by homeboys I meant people of all colors of the wind [I dont even see people in terms of color)]) and if you got a problem with that and want to start something with me, be my guest and be a man. Because I am armed, I AM a MAN, and Ill make a man out of you too by shooting you. The cops wont know who did it at first but then someday my prints will come back to haunt me and theyll match my ballistics, but they still cant charge me because I stood my ground and the Contstution supercedes the states. And then I will kill more and more people until everyone is dead and THEN I will be safe. Its called the circle of life, deal with it libs.

I would like to know who's your dealer
/That's some high grade shiat

SkinnyHead: The state owes him more than just bread and water. If they're going to hold him without bail, they should at least provide him with common comforts.

Three squares a day.
/junk food will kill you!
//depending on what month is is

NannerPuss: Hmmmm. Ironic Newsflash tag usage. I'm not sure how I feel about this. Give me a moment to think about it....

Rage. Yup, uncontrollable rage.

Yup

chewielouie: There will be a trial with Zimmerman walking in the end. Then we'll have the riots.

Exactly.

drjekel_mrhyde: StopArrestingMe: Not sure why there charging him for this. The state is supposed to provide the bare necessities, such as the right to bare arms. But libs have been eroding these rights for years, hence the reason ZimmerMAN is in jail to begin with. Going to jail for defending yourself...this is life under the seedy rule of Barack "Hakuna" Omatada. America is like a whole new world with this guy in charge, and I do NOT want to be part of that world. The "stand your ground" clause of the constution says you should be able to shoot people who scare you, no strings attached, and thats why there are no strings on me and I will continue to honor the Founders by shooting high homeboys like they intended (I am NOT racist, by homeboys I meant people of all colors of the wind [I dont even see people in terms of color)]) and if you got a problem with that and want to start something with me, be my guest and be a man. Because I am armed, I AM a MAN, and Ill make a man out of you too by shooting you. The cops wont know who did it at first but then someday my prints will come back to haunt me and theyll match my ballistics, but they still cant charge me because I stood my ground and the Contstution supercedes the states. And then I will kill more and more people until everyone is dead and THEN I will be safe. Its called the circle of life, deal with it libs.

I would like to know who's your dealer
/That's some high grade shiat

Take another hit by reading his profile.

KOOLmike: Just called the jail and added $100 to his account. They accept credit cards, FWIW.

What's the number?

jaylectricity: arethusa: //using my nice words

So nice!

I'm saving my bad ones for Fife.

The fact that he bought $28.37 worth of Skittles proves he is guilty!!!

StopArrestingMe: Not sure why there charging him for this. The state is supposed to provide the bare necessities, such as the right to bare arms. But libs have been eroding these rights for years, hence the reason ZimmerMAN is in jail to begin with. Going to jail for defending yourself...this is life under the seedy rule of Barack "Hakuna" Omatada. America is like a whole new world with this guy in charge, and I do NOT want to be part of that world. The "stand your ground" clause of the constution says you should be able to shoot people who scare you, no strings attached, and thats why there are no strings on me and I will continue to honor the Founders by shooting high homeboys like they intended (I am NOT racist, by homeboys I meant people of all colors of the wind [I dont even see people in terms of color)]) and if you got a problem with that and want to start something with me, be my guest and be a man. Because I am armed, I AM a MAN, and Ill make a man out of you too by shooting you. The cops wont know who did it at first but then someday my prints will come back to haunt me and theyll match my ballistics, but they still cant charge me because I stood my ground and the Contstution supercedes the states. And then I will kill more and more people until everyone is dead and THEN I will be safe. Its called the circle of life, deal with it libs.

Sure I missed a couple.

SkinnyHead: Why are they charging him for these necessities? Isn't the state responsible for providing him with the necessities of life?

He should've bought condoms fo' his male luva!

arethusa: My bad. It's not in the affidavit, it is on the second page.

Lead prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda would not discuss what other evidence prosecutors have against the neighborhood watch volunteer, except to say it is enough to support the first-degree felony charge.

IANAL, but that wording may be saying something different than you think. Perhaps second-degree murder is still classed as a first-degree felony.

I just wonder how bad the race riots will be if they follow the law and let this guy walk.

I'm thinking Rodney King's 50 dead times ten.

Thanks Obama, I'm sorry they killed your son.

Is "cooling his heals" some resto druid technique I'm not aware of?

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chewielouie: From what we know so far, which really isn't much, they barely have enough to make 2nd degree murder stick. Despite her claims to the contrary, the prosecutor bowed to public pressure. At some point they may offer a plea deal for manslaughter, but I doubt it. The pressure to get a conviction and avoid a riot will be too much. There will be a trial with Zimmerman walking in the end. Then we'll have the riots.

We don't need to know it; they need to have the proof and they say they have it. I'm not on the jury and won't be making statements as to whether or not he is guilty.

I hear "riot, riot, riot", but I have enough faith in humanity and I think, in a way, that saying that our wonderful nubian race will riot is profiling. I think the majority just wanted what to see him face a jury of his peers, which is fair.

jehovahs witness protection: Since he killed a thug while fighting for his life, maybe some more thugs should be killed to make it worth while.
Show your "grill", take a bullet.

I think we all realize what "thug" is a euphemism for.

jackandwater: Are we going to get personal emails the next time he takes a crap? sheesh!

Along with one of those charts to help you identify what type of crap it is too.

Ironic

Like being wedded on his arraignment day.

buckler: StopArrestingMe: Not sure why there charging him for this. The state is supposed to provide the bare necessities, such as the right to bare arms. But libs have been eroding these rights for years, hence the reason ZimmerMAN is in jail to begin with. Going to jail for defending yourself...this is life under the seedy rule of Barack "Hakuna" Omatada. America is like a whole new world with this guy in charge, and I do NOT want to be part of that world. The "stand your ground" clause of the constution says you should be able to shoot people who scare you, no strings attached, and thats why there are no strings on me and I will continue to honor the Founders by shooting high homeboys like they intended (I am NOT racist, by homeboys I meant people of all colors of the wind [I dont even see people in terms of color)]) and if you got a problem with that and want to start something with me, be my guest and be a man. Because I am armed, I AM a MAN, and Ill make a man out of you too by shooting you. The cops wont know who did it at first but then someday my prints will come back to haunt me and theyll match my ballistics, but they still cant charge me because I stood my ground and the Contstution supercedes the states. And then I will kill more and more people until everyone is dead and THEN I will be safe. Its called the circle of life, deal with it libs.

Sure I missed a couple.

I think the second one is Haunted Mansion but it's a stretch.

cc_rider: I know it's probably been said a dozen times already, but...cooling his "heals"?

WTF?

Did he stub his tow?

drjekel_mrhyde: SkinnyHead: Why are they charging him for these necessities? Isn't the state responsible for providing him with the necessities of life?

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Bare necessities, the simple bare necessities...

9beers: The affidavit reads like it was written by somebody who browsed a few of the Fark threads on the subject. A first year law student could win this case. Given the fact that Zimmerman's attorney has 30 years of criminal defense experience, he'll rip this to shreds so badly that the prosecutor will resign before she has a chance to be fired again.

Was she already fired? Unless they have other evidence, they need to find a whipping boy to take this case. Someone who doesn't mind pushing papers or moving to another state to practice.

Seems like they have other evidence or they would've gone with manslaughter.

9beers: relcec: god damn jolly ranchers suck ass.

Are you insane? Watermelon Jolly Ranchers are the best candy ever.

Now that Zima is gone Jolly Ranchers are largely irrelevant.

HBK: Was she already fired?

She was fired from her job in 2006 for misconduct.

Spoonfed'sBuddy: Bathia_Mapes: Relatively Obscure: Bathia_Mapes: It's that way in nearly every jail. He gets the necessities, but like any other inmate, if he wants snacks, certain items of clothing, distractions such as puzzle books, playing cards, etc. that is paid for by the inmate. The latter do not qualify as "necessities of life".

Where I worked, they were entitled to having basic hygiene necessities made available to them. They had to purchase them with their own money unless they were completely broke (in which case they were given a 'hygiene kit'.. I forget how often).

When I worked for the custody referee (jail referee) at the Lane County Jail back in the mid-70s, they didn't have much in the way of a commisary, but all inmates were given a bar of Coleo soap, a pair of baggy green pants with a drawstring waistband, a matching green shirt with "Lane County Jail" in black across the back and some foam shoes that looked like the kind you might see in a hospital and a small comb. Inmates could buy stuff like shaving cream & disposable razors, but couldn't keep them in the jail area. Their name was put on them and when they wanted to shave, they had to be supervised by one of the jail employees. Unless they were going to court, female inmates weren't allowed to wear bras, but underwear was okay.

All newly booked inmates had to undergo a body cavity search (male COs for male inmates, female COs for female inmates), then a shower and shampoo using a lindane based product (usually Kwell). The body cavity search was also performed before they were taken for a court appearance and again when they returned to the jail.

How far up a person's ass do they actually probe during a body cavity search?

If an inmate shiats on their hand before the guard penetrates, do they still penetrate the inmate's bunghole?

I've seen that porno, and yes.

buckler: Sure I missed a couple.

It hides some of them pretty well.

Relatively Obscure: Man it has been way too long since I've enjoyed one of these.

Did you miss the rap artists one a couple of days ago?
That one was HARD.

9beers: HBK: Was she already fired?

She was fired from her job in 2006 for misconduct.

That's hilarious. They found a disposable prosecutor. That's not a good sign.

Well, at least she'll have a book deal. This could explain why the avoided the grand jury (weak case). Unless there's other evidence, which I'm still not counting out due to the fact they went with second degree murder.

HBK: Was she already fired?

In addition to having been fired, she's insisting that a 12 year old be tried as an adult for killing his 2 year old brother. The kid pushed his brother into a bookshelf and he died as a result. She thinks the 12 year old should die in prison. She's refused to accept any plea deals.

9beers: HBK: Was she already fired?

She was fired from her job in 2006 for misconduct political reasons.

Fixed that for the racist troll.

Mike Krumboltz, a man that even 9beers can get behind.

HBK: That's hilarious. They found a disposable prosecutor. That's not a good sign.

Except that part where she got her job back and then she was elected to the position of the guy who fired her.

NEWSFLASH me when he gets RAPED.

bahamasorbust: 9beers: HBK: Was she already fired?

She was fired from her job in 2006 for misconduct political reasons.

Fixed that for the racist troll.

That's simply the other side (her side) of the story. No one really knows why she was canned.

arethusa: chewielouie: From what we know so far, which really isn't much, they barely have enough to make 2nd degree murder stick. Despite her claims to the contrary, the prosecutor bowed to public pressure. At some point they may offer a plea deal for manslaughter, but I doubt it. The pressure to get a conviction and avoid a riot will be too much. There will be a trial with Zimmerman walking in the end. Then we'll have the riots.

We don't need to know it; they need to have the proof and they say they have it. I'm not on the jury and won't be making statements as to whether or not he is guilty.


Having enough to file an Information is one thing, enough to secure a conviction is something else. There is still a slight possibility that a judge can throw the case out based on the stand your ground defense Zimmerman will raise. However, I don't think any judge will risk his house, or his life. Nope, the media circus is just beginning.