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(Deadline)   One good thing about Seth MacFarlane occupying so much of Fox's schedule? His Flintstones reboot has been delayed indefinitely   (deadline.com ) divider line
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2012-04-12 11:47:50 PM  
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2012-04-13 12:39:23 AM  
fark you, subby.
 
2012-04-13 01:09:52 AM  
American Dad needs to die.
 
2012-04-13 01:34:07 AM  
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2012-04-13 01:40:08 AM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: American Dad needs to die.


They need to give Roger his own show.
 
2012-04-13 01:47:09 AM  

ShawnDoc: Britney Spear's Speculum: American Dad needs to die.

They need to give Roger his own show.


I hoped he'd do a good job on flintstones. I'm sure he's capable of doing something less family guy-ish, so long as Fox doesn't take control. American Dad is great, so fark you britney.

/roger could be gazoo in a very special episode.
 
2012-04-13 02:01:50 AM  

Smackledorfer: I'm sure he's capable of doing something less family guy-ish


are you really?
 
2012-04-13 02:09:47 AM  
He sure seems to entertain the dim people.
 
2012-04-13 02:09:57 AM  
American Dan

Is this some new series I haven't heard about?
 
2012-04-13 02:13:51 AM  
I was looking forward to that, actually. I'm no fan of McFarlane's, but I know he loves The Flintstones, and HB is not going to let him get away with the kind of easy, crude humor they push on Family Dad, so I was curious to see him work clean.
 
2012-04-13 02:29:44 AM  

moothemagiccow: Smackledorfer: I'm sure he's capable of doing something less family guy-ish

are you really?


He actually initially tried to get what eventually became Family Guy to originally be more like a traditional zany-misadventure style cartoon. It didn't get picked up.

Attempt 1 (new window)

Attempt 2 (new window)
 
2012-04-13 02:35:44 AM  

Rubber Biscuit: I was looking forward to that, actually. I'm no fan of McFarlane's, but I know he loves The Flintstones, and HB is not going to let him get away with the kind of easy, crude humor they push on Family Dad, so I was curious to see him work clean.


He already has worked clean. Guy wrote dozens of episodes of Johnny Bravo for Hanna-Barbera before Family Guy got picked up.
 
2012-04-13 03:31:16 AM  
Hey Dino, remember that time my grandpa underwent abiogenesis?
 
2012-04-13 03:31:22 AM  
And, while I know its not allowed on fark due to elitism, there are some damn funny moments in family guy.
There really is no justification for the hatred it receives. Cleveland show, otoh...

American dad I wouldn't even say is like family guy. I guess if you consider any show about a family to be a rip off of whatever family-unit based sitcom first came out at the dawn of tv, then ya.
 
2012-04-13 03:35:11 AM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: American Dad needs to die.


Really? Of all the MacFarlane cartoons to want to kill you pick the one with decent writing and actual jokes instead of purely referential unfunny non-sequitir short cuts.

I mean, even if you actually like Family Guy (i.e. a sense of humor killed your family and you're out for revenge) wouldn't you still hate the Cleveland show more on account of it being a corruption of Family Guy?
 
2012-04-13 03:37:08 AM  

Smackledorfer: And, while I know its not allowed on fark due to elitism, there are some damn funny moments in family guy.
There really is no justification for the hatred it receives. Cleveland show, otoh...

American dad I wouldn't even say is like family guy. I guess if you consider any show about a family to be a rip off of whatever family-unit based sitcom first came out at the dawn of tv, then ya.


Bumbling doofus, hot wife, teenage daughter, nerdy teenage son, and talking pet. Except for the baby, American Dad follows the formula of Family Guy almost to the letter.

If you can't see that, you're more oblivious than Stevie Wonder at a planetarium.
 
2012-04-13 03:47:14 AM  

stoli n coke: Rubber Biscuit: I was looking forward to that, actually. I'm no fan of McFarlane's, but I know he loves The Flintstones, and HB is not going to let him get away with the kind of easy, crude humor they push on Family Dad, so I was curious to see him work clean.

He already has worked clean. Guy wrote dozens of episodes of Johnny Bravo for Hanna-Barbera before Family Guy got picked up.


I know about that stuff, but I meant, since he's become a brand name. That was a long time ago.
 
2012-04-13 03:54:48 AM  

stoli n coke:
Bumbling doofus, hot wife, teenage daughter, nerdy teenage son, and talking pet. Except for the baby, American Dad follows the formula of Family Guy almost to the letter.

If you can't see that, you're more oblivious than Stevie Wonder at a planetarium.


Identical casting doesn't mean identical show. Your assertion is like saying that Heroes was No Ordinary Family to the letter because both involve a cast of people with superpowers. AD is an arc-based show that relies on situational and character humor (essentially, a sitcom) where FG and its spinoff are episodic shows that rely primarily on referential humor and absurdism. Those are rather distinct writing philosophies, not to mention the characters themselves being rather distinct aside from the most superficial characteristics.
 
2012-04-13 04:53:09 AM  

stoli n coke: Bumbling doofus, hot wife, teenage daughter, nerdy teenage son, and talking pet. Except for the baby, American Dad follows the formula of Family Guy almost to the letter.

If you can't see that, you're more oblivious than Stevie Wonder at a planetarium.


Flintstones is a 'rip-off' of The Honeymooners.
Every family-based sit-com is a 'rip-off' of The Honeymooners.

The game changers (which have all been 'ripped-off')
M*A*S*H
Mary Tyler Moore
All in the Family (for being topical/controversial)
Sanford & Son
Friends

Calling shows rip-offs is stupid. It's TV. What do you expect?
I think all scripted TV can trace it's roots to The Honeymooners & The Twilight Zone.
 
2012-04-13 05:29:01 AM  

Rubber Biscuit: stoli n coke: Rubber Biscuit: I was looking forward to that, actually. I'm no fan of McFarlane's, but I know he loves The Flintstones, and HB is not going to let him get away with the kind of easy, crude humor they push on Family Dad, so I was curious to see him work clean.

He already has worked clean. Guy wrote dozens of episodes of Johnny Bravo for Hanna-Barbera before Family Guy got picked up.

I know about that stuff, but I meant, since he's become a brand name. That was a long time ago.


Given that he only did Family Guy for a while, then Fox just wanted spinoffs and clone shows, not really.
However, given that he did apparently have a good working relationship with HB, and knows what they would and wouldn't allow, so I can see how they'd choose him.

It's not that much of a stretch. Looking at their standup routines, you'd think no one would have hired George Carlin or Robin Williams for family friendly stuff, but they made it work.
 
2012-04-13 05:43:06 AM  

bionicjoe: stoli n coke: Bumbling doofus, hot wife, teenage daughter, nerdy teenage son, and talking pet. Except for the baby, American Dad follows the formula of Family Guy almost to the letter.

The game changers (which have all been 'ripped-off')
M*A*S*H
Mary Tyler Moore
All in the Family (for being topical/controversial)
Sanford & Son
Friends

Calling shows rip-offs is stupid. It's TV. What do you expect?
I think all scripted TV can trace it's roots to The Honeymooners & The Twilight Zone.


You should probably know that All In The Family and Sanford & Son are rip-offs of British sitcoms (Till Death Do Us Part, and Steptoe & Son) and I'm fairly certain they don't have much DNA provided from the Flintstones.
 
2012-04-13 05:45:42 AM  

stoli n coke: Rubber Biscuit: I was looking forward to that, actually. I'm no fan of McFarlane's, but I know he loves The Flintstones, and HB is not going to let him get away with the kind of easy, crude humor they push on Family Dad, so I was curious to see him work clean.

He already has worked clean. Guy wrote dozens of episodes of Johnny Bravo for Hanna-Barbera before Family Guy got picked up.


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It's a living.
 
2012-04-13 05:48:14 AM  

Public Call Box: You should probably know that All In The Family and Sanford & Son are rip-offs of British sitcoms (Till Death Do Us Part, and Steptoe & Son) and I'm fairly certain they don't have much DNA provided from the Flintstones.


Figures.
I'm sure Friends is based on something I'm forgetting.

People always talk about sitcom progression, but anyone ever seen a 1-hr drama family tree?
 
2012-04-13 05:53:18 AM  

Public Call Box: and I'm fairly certain they don't have much DNA provided from the Flintstones.


I think I was unclear earlier. I was sawing 'the game-changers' were the few sit-coms that didn't follow the Honeymooners model.
Not they were rip-offs as well. But as you pointed out even they were copied from something.

Far as that goes, most of this was copied from radio, from vaudeville, .....cave paintings.
 
2012-04-13 06:25:17 AM  
There are only so many jokes one can write that champion his absurd liberal mentality. Poor baby.

I figured he'd just recycle the stuff from FG like he did for his other spin offs.
 
2012-04-13 06:44:35 AM  
Honestly, I'd prefer he ditch all his Fox shows and do a new Star Trek series like he wants.
 
2012-04-13 06:53:31 AM  

bionicjoe: Public Call Box: You should probably know that All In The Family and Sanford & Son are rip-offs of British sitcoms (Till Death Do Us Part, and Steptoe & Son) and I'm fairly certain they don't have much DNA provided from the Flintstones.

Figures.
I'm sure Friends is based on something I'm forgetting.

People always talk about sitcom progression, but anyone ever seen a 1-hr drama family tree?


At the time it was new, the general consensus was that Friends was a Seinfeld clone for a younger audience - an ensemble comedy about a group of neurotic New Yorkers who hang out together and not much else. Sounds familiar, right?
 
2012-04-13 06:59:35 AM  

irving47: Honestly, I'd prefer he ditch all his Fox shows and do a new Star Trek series like he wants.


When he introduced William Shatner at one of those roasts he said Shatner was on Trek before it became a bunch of gay guys in an Apple store so yeah, I'd like to see him take a crack at it.
 
2012-04-13 07:11:41 AM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: American Dad needs to die.


No, American Dad is the one I still laugh at out of the MacFarlane shows. It doesn't do the cut aways, it doesn't have the long annoying sequences (full Conway Twitty songs, chicken fights, etc...) and it is just funnier then his other shows. I love the absurdist humor it has without being too "out there" or overly long.

Patrick Stewart as Bullock is great, and Principle Lewis is awesome.
 
2012-04-13 08:14:01 AM  
It would definitely complete the circle of his career:

Work at Hanna Barbera > Make a bunch of shows that have the same premise, just different character design, aimed at adults in prime time > Remake the flagship show of Hanna Barbera that first proved that animation can be enjoyed by adults in a prime time slot

Also, American Dad is easily the funniest show out of all of them. Eat me raw.
 
2012-04-13 08:18:31 AM  
I remember Mad Magazine doing a bit about "How to redraw Fred Flintstone into Homer Simpson" about 20 years ago.
 
2012-04-13 08:24:07 AM  

Burr: Patrick Stewart as Bullock is great,


Honestly, Patrick Stewart in any of Seth MacFarlane's shows is terrific. His voice lends such gravitas to strings of poop jokes.

Also, Mr. Worf's head looks like a fanny.
 
2012-04-13 08:37:00 AM  
I'm actually disappointed to hear this. I was excited about the reboot. I've quit watching Family Guy for the most part. I just don't laugh at it as much as I used to. I gave The Cleavland Show and honest chance. Watched the first Season and a few episode in the second, but it just isn't funny to me. I went whole episodes without laughing once. Now American Dad I watch every episode and laugh my ass off. I can't believe it was on the chopping block this year. Everyone I know watches American Dad.

I didn't know he did some Johnny Bravo episodes. I loved that show.
 
2012-04-13 08:50:29 AM  
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2012-04-13 08:54:49 AM  
media1.break.com

Its been done before
 
2012-04-13 09:01:07 AM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: American Dad needs to die.


You are so wrong. This is the best animated show currently in production. It derives its humor from the plot and character interaction, not from random segues like Family Guy does.

They dropped the political commentary stuff very early on in the shows run.

Also, McFarlane wants to reboot Star Trek too. I'm a huge star trek fan and I'm cool with that. People give McFarlane a lot of flak because family guy is kind of shiat these days, but he doesn't do much of the writing and is mainly a voice actor/producer/creative input guy.
 
2012-04-13 09:09:39 AM  

Syllabic: It derives its humor from the plot and character interaction,


I also like the random acts of absurdity sprinkled about, just enough so they are funny, but not enough that they ruin it like Family Guy. My favorite is when Principal Lewis is eating his "desk sandwich" and turns around to watch a security tape of a kid playing basketball in the evening and the school janitor doing something. A cloud stops blocking the full moon, the janitor turns into a werewolf, grabs the kid, and runs off, making Lewis scream some obscenity. All within about 30 seconds, and comes out of nowhere.

Just enough to go WTF but not enough to break your interest in the show. If Family Guy did it, it would last 5 mins and be painful to watch.
 
2012-04-13 09:13:26 AM  

Burr: Syllabic: It derives its humor from the plot and character interaction,

I also like the random acts of absurdity sprinkled about, just enough so they are funny, but not enough that they ruin it like Family Guy. My favorite is when Principal Lewis is eating his "desk sandwich" and turns around to watch a security tape of a kid playing basketball in the evening and the school janitor doing something. A cloud stops blocking the full moon, the janitor turns into a werewolf, grabs the kid, and runs off, making Lewis scream some obscenity. All within about 30 seconds, and comes out of nowhere.

Just enough to go WTF but not enough to break your interest in the show. If Family Guy did it, it would last 5 mins and be painful to watch.


Oh yeah definitely. Some of the best episodes are the totally absurdist ones, like the Rapture episode, or the Vacation Goo.
 
2012-04-13 09:21:51 AM  
I think the problem some people have with American Dad is the first season kind of turned some people off, which I could see. The show really picks up during the second part of Stan of Arabia, anything before that was kind of "meh".
 
2012-04-13 09:34:34 AM  

Burr: I think the problem some people have with American Dad is the first season kind of turned some people off, which I could see. The show really picks up during the second part of Stan of Arabia, anything before that was kind of "meh".


Yeah, in the last couple of years I've enjoyed the American Dad episodes I've caught, mostly because MacFarlane uses them as vehicles for good movie parodies (see his take on The Warriors with Stan's school). I've just ceased caring about watching Family Guy, but that's just my own personal taste being tired of the Family Guy schtick (and honestly, Archer is better at combining the zany misadventure, random callback, and absurd premises of animated sitcoms).
 
2012-04-13 10:12:22 AM  
American Dad's guest voice actors do some awesome, awesome work too. Forest Whitaker doing a parody of the OCD detective he played on "The Shield" gets me every time.

Turlington. Internal affairs.


That's not to even mention Patrick Stewart.
 
2012-04-13 10:12:32 AM  

UNC_Samurai: honestly, Archer is better at combining the zany misadventure, random callback, and absurd premises of animated sitcoms


Probably because Archer sticks within its narrative framework. Sure, Burt Reynolds shows up, but it's within the context of the story; it's not Lindsay Lohan showing up naked doing a crab walk.

Archer leans on the the tropes, while Family Guy tries to knock them down and pee all over them.
 
2012-04-13 10:25:32 AM  

ShawnDoc: Britney Spear's Speculum: American Dad needs to die.

They need to give Roger his own show.


This.
 
2012-04-13 10:58:54 AM  
So how come we never see Seth with a nice girl?

[stewie] Oooh. [/stewie]
 
2012-04-13 11:38:46 AM  

hailin: Johnny Bravo


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2012-04-13 11:53:19 AM  
Hrm. Would have been interesting to see Fred with Peter's accent.
 
2012-04-13 12:08:30 PM  

Burr: No, American Dad is the one I still laugh at out of the MacFarlane shows. It doesn't do the cut aways, it doesn't have the long annoying sequences (full Conway Twitty songs, chicken fights, etc...) and it is just funnier then his other shows. I love the absurdist humor it has without being too "out there" or overly long.


i think my favorite part of american dad is when they set up a secondary plot line, run it up to the crisis moment and then just drop it. no resolution of that plot, no mention of it ever again. for some reason that just cracks me up.
 
2012-04-13 12:35:04 PM  

bionicjoe: I'm sure Friends is based on something I'm forgetting.


It's not. There was a british sitcom that ripped friends off, and nbc attempted to make a US version. That's as close as they got.
 
2012-04-13 12:55:41 PM  

Lee's_Austin: Hrm. Would have been interesting to see Fred with Peter's accent.


Nope. When Seth MacFarlane has used the Flintstones before, he uses their "real" voice actors. Fred in that clip was Jeff Bergman, who's been playing the character on and off for the past decade or so.
 
2012-04-13 01:16:03 PM  

IMDWalrus: Lee's_Austin: Hrm. Would have been interesting to see Fred with Peter's accent.

Nope. When Seth MacFarlane has used the Flintstones before, he uses their "real" voice actors. Fred in that clip was Jeff Bergman, who's been playing the character on and off for the past decade or so.


That is pretty cool.
 
2012-04-13 01:21:59 PM  

moothemagiccow: bionicjoe: I'm sure Friends is based on something I'm forgetting.

It's not. There was a british sitcom that ripped friends off, and nbc attempted to make a US version. That's as close as they got.



Shut your whore mouth. Coupling was NOT a rip-off of Friends. Coupling was the funniest TV show I have ever seen while the crapfest that is Friends rarely got more than a chuckle. I have watched Coupling probably six times and I will start pre-giggling knowing what's coming up.

/lesbianspankinferno
 
2012-04-13 01:29:22 PM  

Lee's_Austin: IMDWalrus: Lee's_Austin: Hrm. Would have been interesting to see Fred with Peter's accent.

Nope. When Seth MacFarlane has used the Flintstones before, he uses their "real" voice actors. Fred in that clip was Jeff Bergman, who's been playing the character on and off for the past decade or so.

That is pretty cool.


It's the one concrete thing I've seen that makes me think MacFarlane is serious when he talks about his reverence for The Flintstones.

I don't want the show to become Family Guy 4.0, but between his respect for the originals and the involvement of Hanna Barbera/Warner Brothers to keep him from warping the characters beyond recognition, I've got some hope that the new series could be good.

If it never happens, though...I'm okay with that too.
 
2012-04-13 02:26:17 PM  

IMDWalrus: Lee's_Austin: IMDWalrus: Lee's_Austin: Hrm. Would have been interesting to see Fred with Peter's accent.

Nope. When Seth MacFarlane has used the Flintstones before, he uses their "real" voice actors. Fred in that clip was Jeff Bergman, who's been playing the character on and off for the past decade or so.

That is pretty cool.

It's the one concrete thing I've seen that makes me think MacFarlane is serious when he talks about his reverence for The Flintstones.

I don't want the show to become Family Guy 4.0, but between his respect for the originals and the involvement of Hanna Barbera/Warner Brothers to keep him from warping the characters beyond recognition, I've got some hope that the new series could be good.

If it never happens, though...I'm okay with that too.


Totally. Of course, I was being a smart ass before, but I'm with you on seeing what he would do considering his affinity for it and his work with HB in the past.
 
2012-04-13 02:27:41 PM  

Lost Thought 00: [media1.break.com image 413x301]

Its been done before


Actually, that was ripping off the Simpsons
 
2012-04-13 02:45:41 PM  
How about Yabba Dabba Don't! I never liked the first Flintstones.
 
2012-04-13 03:22:42 PM  
That reminds me of that time when Fred caught Barney and Wilma....
 
2012-04-13 04:48:32 PM  

bionicjoe: Public Call Box: You should probably know that All In The Family and Sanford & Son are rip-offs of British sitcoms (Till Death Do Us Part, and Steptoe & Son) and I'm fairly certain they don't have much DNA provided from the Flintstones.

Figures.
I'm sure Friends is based on something I'm forgetting.

People always talk about sitcom progression, but anyone ever seen a 1-hr drama family tree?


Was Coupling earlier or later than Friends?
 
2012-04-13 05:18:40 PM  
I remember one commentary. Seth was talking about how he likes to ski.
Then someone else says.. "When do you have time to ski you are responsible for 3 TV shows.
 
2012-04-13 05:43:07 PM  

Public Call Box: bionicjoe: stoli n coke: Bumbling doofus, hot wife, teenage daughter, nerdy teenage son, and talking pet. Except for the baby, American Dad follows the formula of Family Guy almost to the letter.

The game changers (which have all been 'ripped-off')
M*A*S*H
Mary Tyler Moore
All in the Family (for being topical/controversial)
Sanford & Son
Friends

Calling shows rip-offs is stupid. It's TV. What do you expect?
I think all scripted TV can trace it's roots to The Honeymooners & The Twilight Zone.

You should probably know that All In The Family and Sanford & Son are rip-offs of British sitcoms (Till Death Do Us Part, and Steptoe & Son) and I'm fairly certain they don't have much DNA provided from the Flintstones.



Having Friends in that list is a joke. There was nothing innovative about that show, at all. Seinfeld was 100x the "game-changer" Friends was.

And of course, the Simpsons, which is what inspired all of McFarland's shows.
 
2012-04-13 07:09:15 PM  

Bullseyed: bionicjoe: Public Call Box: You should probably know that All In The Family and Sanford & Son are rip-offs of British sitcoms (Till Death Do Us Part, and Steptoe & Son) and I'm fairly certain they don't have much DNA provided from the Flintstones.

Figures.
I'm sure Friends is based on something I'm forgetting.

People always talk about sitcom progression, but anyone ever seen a 1-hr drama family tree?

Was Coupling earlier or later than Friends?


Later. Friends started in 1994, Coupling didn't come on until 2000.

And in Googling those facts I discovered Coupling was written by Doctor Who's Steven Moffat. Interesting.
 
2012-04-13 08:15:30 PM  

Syllabic: Oh yeah definitely. Some of the best episodes are the totally absurdist ones, like the Rapture episode, or the Vacation Goo.


The most WTF episode of all has to be the hot tub/Cee Lo one. I literally spent the entire half hour going "wtf am I watching" while laughing my ass off.
 
2012-04-13 08:41:44 PM  

Jensaarai: moothemagiccow: Smackledorfer: I'm sure he's capable of doing something less family guy-ish

are you really?

He actually initially tried to get what eventually became Family Guy to originally be more like a traditional zany-misadventure style cartoon. It didn't get picked up.

Attempt 1 (new window)

Attempt 2 (new window)


He, uh, used every last joke, word for word, later in Family Guy. Astonishing.
 
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