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(TMZ)   Blazing Saddles actor and former NFL star Alex Karras sues the NFL claiming he has dementia, says he is only pawn in game of life   (tmz.com) divider line 73
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2012-04-12 07:54:36 PM  
It was the candygram that did it.
 
2012-04-12 09:23:55 PM  
The NFL faces the choice of going back to the rugby rules or become flag football.

Their decision.
 
2012-04-12 09:35:49 PM  
At least he has Webster to take care of him.

Although I'm sure Webster gets pissed every time Karras calls him Gary Coleman.
 
2012-04-12 09:40:08 PM  
Well according to Frank DeFord's commentary on NPR, it's a wonder all NFL players aren't brain dead/resorted to cannibalism at this point.
 
2012-04-12 09:45:28 PM  

LeafyGreens: Well according to Frank DeFord's commentary on NPR, it's a wonder all NFL players aren't brain dead/resorted to cannibalism at this point.


That guy looks like he'd smell of ointment
 
2012-04-12 09:48:11 PM  
The NFL: where management is so concerned about player safety they're lobbying for an 18-game season.
 
2012-04-12 09:49:39 PM  
Well played,subby.
 
2012-04-12 09:55:22 PM  
At least the NFL didn't shoot him. If you shoot him, you'll just make him mad...
 
2012-04-12 09:57:56 PM  
So the Mad Duck is actually going mad....I'm actually sorry to hear about this, Karras always struck me as a down-to-earth type, for whom football was just one way to make a living.
 
2012-04-12 10:02:11 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: It was the candygram that did it.


Yeah, and I'll never get credit for it neither...
 
2012-04-12 10:02:35 PM  
You know, I could sit here and be sad for these people. But then I realize that playing this sport is a choice they made. Playing the sport the way they played it/are playing it is a choice they made. Perhaps they didn't know brain damage was at the end of the rainbow. But they had to figure that slamming their heads in to proverbial walls for a career wouldn't end pretty. Yet they felt that doing that was much better than whatever alternatives they had. And you can't say they all did it for the money, because players in Karras' day weren't making close to what the 53rd guy on the roster makes today.

That being said, if the players collectively decided to play the game differently, and the coaches decided to coach differently, things would change. Because let's face it...to make a good, clean tackle on someone doesn't require putting your head down and running full speed into someone else's head. That would reduce a lot of the problems right there. Note I didn't say all, just many.
 
2012-04-12 10:02:56 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: It was the candygram that did it.


They probably won't even give him credit for it.


/Where da white wimmen at?
 
2012-04-12 10:06:14 PM  

Candygram4Mongo: AdolfOliverPanties: It was the candygram that did it.

Yeah, and I'll never get credit for it neither...


Argh!

/Tiny fist is shaking...
 
2012-04-12 10:08:58 PM  
We don't need no stinking synapses.
 
2012-04-12 10:10:11 PM  

Candygram4Mongo: AdolfOliverPanties: It was the candygram that did it.

Yeah, and I'll never get credit for it neither...


That's a shame.

No, really. I'm serious.
 
2012-04-12 10:13:10 PM  
 
2012-04-12 10:19:32 PM  

Lord Jubjub: The NFL faces the choice of going back to the rugby rules or become flag football.

Their decision.


No one is going to be able to prove if playing in the NFL causes the problems, or if it is college, high school, pop warner, or pee wee, or a combination of all football.

If the NFL goes down, all of American football goes down with it.
 
2012-04-12 10:21:15 PM  
Guess those Blazing Saddles and nFL royalties aren't rolling in.
 
2012-04-12 10:30:54 PM  
With all this bounty gate going on, I bet the nfl will be gone in 10 years. Just think of some college kid thinking, hey, do I want to be able to walk, hold my bowel movements, remember anything after my nfl career? Naw fark that, I'll take a desk job.
 
2012-04-12 10:34:09 PM  
He did play for the Lions. He'll have a hard time proving that he actually hit somebody.
 
2012-04-12 10:36:42 PM  
Have a C-gar.
 
2012-04-12 10:38:43 PM  

Broktun: Lord Jubjub: The NFL faces the choice of going back to the rugby rules or become flag football.

Their decision.

No one is going to be able to prove if playing in the NFL causes the problems, or if it is college, high school, pop warner, or pee wee, or a combination of all football.

If the NFL goes down, all of American football goes down with it.


It would be easy to get records of men who played just college ball, men who played college ball for 1-2 year and then went pro, and men who played college ball for 3-4 years and then went pro. The records exist for a lot of years, and it should be pretty easy to track rates of dementia for each group. You may not be able to show causation, but clear correlation is enough to win a class action.
 
2012-04-12 10:41:02 PM  
Is this where we sit around the fire and fart?
 
2012-04-12 10:41:36 PM  

LeroyBourne: With all this bounty gate going on, I bet the nfl will be gone in 10 years. Just think of some college kid thinking, hey, do I want to be able to walk, hold my bowel movements, remember anything after my nfl career? Naw fark that, I'll take a desk job.

whaaaat.

/i will take that bet
 
2012-04-12 10:51:00 PM  
Or they can just avoid playing it all and realize that grown men in spandex capris is rather homoerotic. What "sport" has star players with beer guts.

/played in h.s. and three years in college.
//hockey is much more entertaining.
 
2012-04-12 11:02:26 PM  

duffblue: Or they can just avoid playing it all and realize that grown men in spandex capris is rather homoerotic. What "sport" has star players with beer guts.

/played in h.s. and three years in college.
//hockey is much more entertaining.


Baseball?

/Baseball fan
 
2012-04-12 11:05:27 PM  
as someone who suffered bad enough concussions to change their personality...yeah, i'm not surprised.

the ole' noggin ain't made to get bashed in day in and day out just so a couple of twats in sportjackets can moan on and on about blah blah in between beer commercials.
 
2012-04-12 11:09:39 PM  
duffblue: Or they can just avoid playing it all and realize that grown men in spandex capris is rather homoerotic. .

Its still less homoerotic than Wrasslin, which is still less homoerotic than legitimate like Olympic Wrestling
 
2012-04-12 11:12:01 PM  

velvet_fog: The NFL: where management is so concerned about player safety they're lobbying for an 18-game season.


Thissy that thissy!

The NFL wants to make money If they could make more money with naked players they'd do that. An 18 game season would be suicide for teams that make the play-offs.
 
2012-04-12 11:25:43 PM  
This sounds like a shakedown like trying to sue a tobacco company... if you light a substance on fire and inhale it don't be upset if you get sick years later. If you put on a helmet and ram into the guy across from you head first at full speed don't get upset if you go a bit nutty years later.

Oh, the anti-tobacco lobby won? NFL is screwed. Next we will see MLB pitchers want to sue for distended elbows and rotator cuff injuries and curling players wanting to sue for frostbite.
 
2012-04-12 11:26:28 PM  
Mongo? Santa Maria!
 
2012-04-12 11:30:00 PM  

LeroyBourne: With all this bounty gate going on, I bet the nfl will be gone in 10 years. Just think of some college kid thinking, hey, do I want to be able to walk, hold my bowel movements, remember anything after my nfl career? Naw fark that, I'll take a desk job.


When you're dirt poor and you can get millions to live high and mighty for a couple decades before the diapers, I think some if not most would take that.
 
2012-04-12 11:31:23 PM  

12349876: LeroyBourne: With all this bounty gate going on, I bet the nfl will be gone in 10 years. Just think of some college kid thinking, hey, do I want to be able to walk, hold my bowel movements, remember anything after my nfl career? Naw fark that, I'll take a desk job.

When you're dirt poor and you can get millions to live high and mighty for a couple decades before the diapers, I think some if not most would take that.


... and they'll take another sport before a desk job if they can
 
2012-04-12 11:33:32 PM  

Lord Jubjub: The NFL faces the choice of going back to the rugby rules or become flag football.

Their decision.


I'd take an American version of rugby that forgoes pads, doesn't constantly stop and start, and uses the scrum.
 
2012-04-12 11:53:33 PM  

wxboy: duffblue: Or they can just avoid playing it all and realize that grown men in spandex capris is rather homoerotic. What "sport" has star players with beer guts.

/played in h.s. and three years in college.
//hockey is much more entertaining.

Baseball?

/Baseball fan


Bowling?
 
2012-04-13 12:02:57 AM  

Lord Jubjub: back to the rugby rules


Rugby rules actually prevent a lot of injuries you see in football. Like the fact you have to actually wrap someone up to bring them down.
 
2012-04-13 12:04:35 AM  
I'm just in shock that I didn't realize that Mongo was Mr. Papadapolis. Like finding out Smokey from Friday was Benson
 
2012-04-13 12:06:09 AM  

verbaltoxin: I'd take an American version of rugby that forgoes pads, doesn't constantly stop and start, and uses the scrum.


But how are you going

www.logoinn.net

fit in all of the

upload.wikimedia.org

stuff so that it can be shown on

www.coca-cola.com

network TV.
 
2012-04-13 12:09:27 AM  
Damn I thought he was dead already. Had NO idea this dude was still alive. Can you blame me, everyone else in that movie is dead...

Gene Wilder is still alive? OMG I should not have looked at wikipedia.
 
2012-04-13 12:09:43 AM  
www.hotflick.net

I don't know about Seward County... ...but we got laws here about drivin' with busted headlights.
 
2012-04-13 12:17:54 AM  

What_Would_Jimi_Do: [www.hotflick.net image 640x360]

I don't know about Seward County... ...but we got laws here about drivin' with busted headlights.


I don't have a busted headlight...
 
2012-04-13 12:25:26 AM  
This research has been going on for a few years, and will continue. My prediction is that this is a big enough deal that other BME departments in other places will get in on it too, and when the results start being publicized, American football as we know it will start circling the drain.

Lemme tl;dr; TFA - over the course of two years, one high school football team, studied longitudinally with fMRI, cognitive tests, and instrumented helmets, showed 6 players got concussions, but 17 had measurable brain changes.

It doesn't matter what happens at the pro NFL and semi-pro college level; football is going to disappear from high school eventually.
 
2012-04-13 12:44:55 AM  
www.karrass.com

You aren't a pawn in game of life. You are what you negotiate.
 
2012-04-13 01:14:00 AM  
Mongo like pancakes.
 
2012-04-13 01:22:37 AM  
i.imgur.com
I don't know... He doesn't look that demented to me.
 
2012-04-13 01:57:54 AM  

Lord Jubjub: The NFL faces the choice of going back to the rugby rules or become flag football.

Their decision.


I fully welcome our Rugby overlords. It's a real man's sport, not like the two-hand-touch game football will end up being. The REAL game of football from the 1960s is long gone. ARE YOU READY FOR SOME RUGBYYYYYYYYYYY!
 
2012-04-13 02:00:27 AM  

WhyteRaven74: Lord Jubjub: back to the rugby rules

Rugby rules actually prevent a lot of injuries you see in football. Like the fact you have to actually wrap someone up to bring them down.


Plus the idea of no helmet makes running head first at full sprint into another person's head NOT a good idea.
 
2012-04-13 02:36:04 AM  

Candygram4Mongo: AdolfOliverPanties: It was the candygram that did it.

Yeah, and I'll never get credit for it neither...


Same here.
 
2012-04-13 02:46:41 AM  

stuhayes2010: Guess those Blazing Saddles and nFL royalties aren't rolling in.


The NFL pension for non-star players from the 70s was pretty shiatty, once you factor in medical expenses and that most players weren't making very much money to begin with (a second string punter probably makes more a year than Karras did, and he was a fairly well known player).

On the bright side, he should get a nice cut from Webster DVD's.
 
2012-04-13 03:40:04 AM  
americans see gladiators in armour locked in battle on the grid iron,
everyne else sees pussies in padding saying ow- my head/knee/back/etc.

signed...the gipper
 
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