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(Mirror.co.uk)   Woman hires female private eye to see if her boyfriend would cheat on her. Turns out he would. He's now dating the female private eye. Don't laugh. These are all terrible, terrible people   (mirror.co.uk) divider line 95
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2012-04-12 10:10:58 AM
10 votes:
There is a moment where you have to conclude that the one thing that all your failed past relationships have in common is you...
2012-04-12 11:29:39 AM
9 votes:
ProTip: Don't move in with someone after dating them for only 6 weeks.
2012-04-12 12:04:53 PM
6 votes:
When he said, "You can't, because I just deleted it," on the sexting phone message, she should have dumped him right there. Moving in--as opposed to just sleeping over a lot but keeping her own place---after six weeks was too much relationship too soon, agreed. If you're at the point of hiring private investigators and it's not over money in a divorce settlement, you need to back away from the emotional overload and just walk.

He didn't "upgrade." None of them makes the grade. The "Honeytrap" chick is unethical down to the bone---if it truly "just happened" like she said, and she was pure as the driven snow in all this, then she should have called the client and returned the client's money voluntarily. Instead, she was just marginally sorry she got caught.

"Jack" is unethical down to the boner. He's nobody's catch, he's a liability. He has a Hitachi Relativity Factor of -9.*

Whatsername has low self-esteem, bad taste in men, poor relationship skills, and friends who give lousy advice. She's in the approximate looks range of a lot of guys out there on the marriage market, so its really the neurotic "issues" she needs to fix more than the weight.

The first neurotic issue she needs to fix is she needs to quit selecting double-ended dildos like Jack to go out with.


*HRF scale runs from -10 to +10
i^2
2012-04-12 11:38:05 AM
6 votes:

Holy crap, does anyone bother to read to the end of the article? They interviewed the douche in question, and he admitted that he was, in fact, cheating on her during their relationship:

But Jack isn't ashamed at being exposed as a love rat. "The whole relationship with Samantha was a mistake. I knew that when we started living together and I should have finished with her sooner," he explains.

"I'm happy with Jane. She's a very attractive girl with a great personality. When we chatted in the pub that first night we just clicked straight away.

"I feel quite good about what happened. I'd been seeing another girl on a casual basis while I was dating Samantha but that's over. I finished that as soon as Jane came along."


So while she was clearly jealous, it was entirely justifiable. And while you may consider hiring "Miss Honeypot" as going a bit far, she had already confronted him directly about it and he lied to her face. I don't see how you can call that paranoid.
2012-04-12 11:54:44 AM
5 votes:
I'd be worried if a girl wanted to move in after 6 weeks. Shiat, 6 months of dating is still a bit quick.
PJ-
2012-04-12 11:43:06 AM
5 votes:
I actually dated a girl exactly like the girl. She thought that I would stop being faithful as soon as the first pretty face turned my way. I was honestly completely committed to her, that is, until she decided to 'test' me. She thought sending her best friend (who really wanted in my pants) to me, trying to see if I could be persuaded. Best friend tried to talk her out of it, telling her that she had no worry about that, and if I found out she was 'testing' me, I would be gone. Well, she would not be persuaded.

Best friend came at me, I told her no. Then she says 'i'm so sorry, she asked me to see if you would ever cheat on her. I tried to tell her not to, but she wouldn't listen'. It was a simple solution to me, call that girl immediately. 'Hey, so I just heard you like to test people who mean something to you. Well, I don't like that, i've done nothing to betray your trust, and this is how i'm rewarded. We're done' *click*. Turn to best friend and say 'well, won't be cheating now will it?' Dated her for a few months, then got dumped. Something about she will never be able to fix her friendship if she's still with me. Meh, I got my dinky stinky, so I made out ahead.
2012-04-12 10:12:25 AM
5 votes:
I laughed. Paranoid jealous woman gets what she deserves.
2012-04-12 11:39:00 AM
4 votes:

LoneWolf343: No, the girlfriend was horrible, so the boyfriend dumped her for the nearest available woman.

FTA: '"The idea was to test men out, not steal them. I wouldn't say I stole Jack. Their relationship was doomed the moment she booked me because once the trust goes in a relationship that's it."'

Gospel truth.


If you are such a poor excuse for a man that your only way of leaving a relationship is to cheat on your partner, then you are a piece of shiat. If you aren't happy, be an adult, have an adult conversation, and leave.
2012-04-12 11:36:07 AM
4 votes:
No, the girlfriend was horrible, so the boyfriend dumped her for the nearest available woman.

FTA: '"The idea was to test men out, not steal them. I wouldn't say I stole Jack. Their relationship was doomed the moment she booked me because once the trust goes in a relationship that's it."'

Gospel truth.
2012-04-12 03:46:13 PM
3 votes:

ObscureNameHere: ph0rk: ObscureNameHere: And if you don't believe her word, then the trust element of the relationship has died.

the current legal situation is one where to trust her at first would put you on the hook for 18 years in a real, inescapable, even-with-contradictory-paternity-test outcomes. To support a kid and act as father at first can lock you in to "acting" as a father for the kid's entire childhood, no matter the test results.

Why should she choose this point, of all points, to dig in her heels and be a jackass?

I don't watch her all the time. She clearly has nothing to hide. What's the problem?

/This is exactly why I think it is a great idea for the state to mandate testing for things like putting a man's name on the birth certificate or applying for child support.

*blink*
Wow, we both appear to be typing in English, yet seem to be speaking entirely different languages. Eerie.


I'm sure a woman would feel someone insulted at the request, but try to imagine why a man would want to make it.

We all know that fidelity is a joke, and I sure as shiat don't get any bonus points for staying true in this particular case.


An analogy might be getting tested for STDs before you start unprotected intercourse (say, 2ish years using condoms, chick gets an IUD or goes on the pill).

You might trust the person quite a bit, but this is a situation with permanent, life-altering repercussions. Trusting someone's word just isn't enough.
2012-04-12 03:15:53 PM
3 votes:

ObscureNameHere: And if you don't believe her word, then the trust element of the relationship has died.


the current legal situation is one where to trust her at first would put you on the hook for 18 years in a real, inescapable, even-with-contradictory-paternity-test outcomes. To support a kid and act as father at first can lock you in to "acting" as a father for the kid's entire childhood, no matter the test results.

Why should she choose this point, of all points, to dig in her heels and be a jackass?

I don't watch her all the time. She clearly has nothing to hide. What's the problem?

/This is exactly why I think it is a great idea for the state to mandate testing for things like putting a man's name on the birth certificate or applying for child support.
2012-04-12 03:03:30 PM
3 votes:

ObscureNameHere: There is no way that a happily married couple who try to have a chile then succeed would ever even CONTEMPLATE opening a discussion on 'paternity test'. By even bringing it up represents a mistrustful nature, ergo, you have already lost trust in the marriage.


See?

A woman always knows the maternity of her child. A man can never know with certainty.

That a woman would even contemplate denying this knowledge to a man (from a neutral 3rd party; she is clearly biased), shows severe character flaws.

/I really wish the state mandated paternity tests the first time any man was treated legally as a parent for a given child, would clear this right up.
//Don't want a paternity test taken? Don't put his name on the birth cert and don't ever ask for child support
///I like the idea of mandatory testing all the time better, but most are uncomfortable with this playfield-leveling idea.
2012-04-12 12:02:06 PM
3 votes:

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based on looks alone, I can see why he bolted. Add in some paranoia and (up until then) false accusations, and people in dating relationships are gonna split quick.

/the girl looks much cuter in the first pic though, looks like she put on a few.


Except for the part where the accusations were actually true.

"I feel quite good about what happened. I'd been seeing another girl on a casual basis while I was dating Samantha but that's over. I finished that as soon as Jane came along." Just because she's paranoid doesn't mean he wasn't cheating.
2012-04-12 11:58:46 AM
3 votes:

MycroftHolmes: LoneWolf343: No, the girlfriend was horrible, so the boyfriend dumped her for the nearest available woman.

FTA: '"The idea was to test men out, not steal them. I wouldn't say I stole Jack. Their relationship was doomed the moment she booked me because once the trust goes in a relationship that's it."'

Gospel truth.

If you are such a poor excuse for a man that your only way of leaving a relationship is to cheat on your partner, then you are a piece of shiat. If you aren't happy, be an adult, have an adult conversation, and leave.



THIS.

Seriously if you dont like them , there are no kids, and your not married. LEAVE
2012-04-12 11:57:08 AM
3 votes:

Inflatable Rhetoric: What did you have that you don't still have?


An STD-free special area for one. There could also be paternity shenanigans too.

Of course, I was told lately that dudes shouldn't ask for paternity tests because it shows lack of trust - whatever.

/I'm still asking for one if the time ever comes.
2012-04-12 11:20:35 AM
3 votes:
Man, British newspapers are trashy.
2012-04-12 10:29:42 AM
3 votes:
www.mirror.co.uk

Looks like a nice upgrade.
2012-04-13 09:38:28 AM
2 votes:
Mandating paternity tests seems like overkill to me. Why not just make a paternity test a precondition for awarding child support if the couple splits up?
2012-04-13 12:17:59 AM
2 votes:

Crafty Bernardo: I was personally responding to the person who said he was going to be sure to get a paternity test on any child he has with a woman he's farked... but being so presumptuous that you' ...


On the first part...fair enough. I only responded to you instead of him because you seemed to agree to the "bunch of little sociopaths" comment. If I was mistaken, I apologize.

As for the second part of your reply, I have two points:
1. Again, look up "devil's advocate." I don't want to have to do it for you.
2. At birth, can you REALLY tell how much that kid looks like his father? It takes a few years, and by that time it's usually too late to challenge paternity.

I'm all for taking the guilt out of the process and making paternity testing mandatory. If the mother's not lying, what does she have to hide? There's no reason that her faux outrage should be grounds for someone raising another man's child.
2012-04-12 04:51:17 PM
2 votes:

ForMadmenOnly: What's that about everything before the but?

Anyway - If you wouldn't want to be in her shoes, stop being an asshole.

Offer mitigating circumstances if you want, but you are contributing to assholish activity. Stop it.

For the record, I am reasonably sure the custom isn't for a woman (or a man) to have to ask if their partner wants an open relationship. In most cases, it is safe to assume a closed relationship is the default position. Husband is a jackass for not telling her beforehand. Shocker.

For the record, I'm pro equality, anti-marriage, and think religion is stupid in most cases. However, when the culture has a predominant form of a type of relationship, you're being a dick if you participate in breaking that custom.

Don't be a dick.

It's weird because I am also anti-marriage and am actually a non anti-religion atheist (I don't hold religion against people) and grew up in a household where the man of the house and the woman of the house were 50/50 all the way. Overall I do not think that stepping out on someone is acceptable but ever since I did cheat I can understand how it happens. In my case the relationship had died long ago. I did however see how what I was doing was wrong and broke the relationship off because it was not fair to my boyfriend. What I did/do was/is wrong. That doesn't mean I am accountable for everything. I wish the man would leave his wife. But not to be with me, I don't want that. He has tried to have the conversation with his wife about the terms of their relationship and she wont have it. If she doesn't want to even face the reality of what may be happening that's her problem and she shouldn't have married a man she didn't love because he knocked her up. I don't expect to get anyone's approval for what I'm doing or expect why I do it to make sense. The question to me is this; is a forced loveless relationship bound by the same "rules?" I open to be swayed one way or the other.


I'll be honest, I think you're a terrible human being. You lack anything beyond the most superficial of emotions. You claim you've been on both sides of the equation, and demonstrate a complete lack of empathy. You're evil for blaming the guys wife. They are married, that covenant alone should be enough for you to not sleep with her husband buy instead you excuse your immorality by blaming an innocent woman that has never harmed you. You are the definition of a terrible person and you will never be in a good relationship because there is something inside you that is fundamentally flawed and broken.
2012-04-12 04:22:23 PM
2 votes:

ForMadmenOnly: What's that about everything before the but?

Anyway - If you wouldn't want to be in her shoes, stop being an asshole.

Offer mitigating circumstances if you want, but you are contributing to assholish activity. Stop it.

For the record, I am reasonably sure the custom isn't for a woman (or a man) to have to ask if their partner wants an open relationship. In most cases, it is safe to assume a closed relationship is the default position. Husband is a jackass for not telling her beforehand. Shocker.

For the record, I'm pro equality, anti-marriage, and think religion is stupid in most cases. However, when the culture has a predominant form of a type of relationship, you're being a dick if you participate in breaking that custom.

Don't be a dick.

It's weird because I am also anti-marriage and am actually a non anti-religion atheist (I don't hold religion against people) and grew up in a household where the man of the house and the woman of the house were 50/50 all the way. Overall I do not think that stepping out on someone is acceptable but ever since I did cheat I can understand how it happens. In my case the relationship had died long ago. I did however see how what I was doing was wrong and broke the relationship off because it was not fair to my boyfriend. What I did/do was/is wrong. That doesn't mean I am accountable for everything. I wish the man would leave his wife. But not to be with me, I don't want that. He has tried to have the conversation with his wife about the terms of their relationship and she wont have it. If she doesn't want to even face the reality of what may be happening that's her problem and she shouldn't have married a man she didn't love because he knocked her up. I don't expect to get anyone's approval for what I'm doing or expect why I do it to make sense. The question to me is this; is a forced loveless relationship bound by the same "rules?" I open to be swayed one way or the other.


There's no reason the husband can't file for divorce, it sounds like he's making excuses so he can get a little something-something on the side. Sorry, but marriage in the Western World is rarely forced. If it's a loveless marriage, why would he want to stay unless he's afraid of the division of assets maybe?If not being about division of assets, maybe it has to do with guilt over the child that came from their earlier pairing. Though that's faulty logic on his part, the child(ren) get hurt either way, either via lack of affection for their mother while married or through watching the probably nasty divorce proceedings that will almost inevitably follow. Sometimes the most humane thing to do is to divorce early on when you realize there's no way it can work with the two of you behaving as a couple.

He may be a serial cheater, and she may simply be ignoring it or playing naive for her own financial stability which makes you more the fool than her. I believe you said you'd marry someone if they knocked you up, are you going to expect him to marry you if you get pregnant? You might have meant to say wouldn't given the context of what else was said, but you said "would" so I don't know what you meant. If you're saying you would marry because of pregnancy, it's kind of hypocritical, because that's apparently exactly what she did, and it probably is part of why she ended up in a loveless marriage with your lover.

You're helping deter affections from the wife and mother of his child. You are helping create an unhealthy idea of what a parental relationship should be like. Cordial divorced parents are sometimes better parents than ones that are cold towards each other because they both know there's cheating going on. You're helping set the standard for the kid to end up in the same situation as his/her parents are in because most people learn relationship dynamics from their families. I'm definitely not suggesting he wouldn't be doing the same if it weren't you, because most people that rationalize cheating probably still would cheat. I'm suggesting that the ones that really matter in this situation are the kids and apparently all the "adults" in this situation are being selfish.
2012-04-12 04:17:28 PM
2 votes:

Nogale: Sometimes loneliness can drive people to do things that are against their ethical code. If you've never experienced that, you're lucky.


We're not talking about stealing bread to survive, here.

There are scads of ways to meet people and hook up - I can't think of a case where helping someone cheat on their spouse or partner is the only solution.

Again, this is obviously a "high" moral standard, but it seems like an entirely fair expectation to me.
2012-04-12 04:11:34 PM
2 votes:

Nogale: As far as being the third person - I'm not taking a moral stance on the issue one way or another but it's not quite as black and white as you make it out to be.


yeah, it is.

/been cheated on a bunch 'o times.
2012-04-12 03:47:04 PM
2 votes:

FarkLiberty: So once your name is on the paper you're screwed? Or is there a reasonable time frame in which you can contest it?

/Didn't get my GED in law...


The way the law is written, paternity is currently one of the few forms of premeditated fraud that there is absolutely no legal or civil course of action to remedy.
2012-04-12 03:41:13 PM
2 votes:

ForMadmenOnly: The question to me is this; is a forced loveless relationship bound by the same "rules?" I open to be swayed one way or the other.


This just reads like justification to me.

You said you wouldn't want to be in her shoes - that should be pretty much it.

I couldn't willfully cross that line and still think of myself as a decent person. I expect others to hold themselves to the same standard. It doesn't really seem like that high a bar - don't be a hypocrite.
2012-04-12 03:19:28 PM
2 votes:
Do you guys know what paranoia means?

par·a·noi·a/ˌparəˈnoiə/
Noun:
1. A mental condition characterized by delusions of persecution, unwarranted jealousy, or exaggerated self-importance, typically worked...
2. Suspicion and mistrust of people or their actions without evidence or justification.


She heard a voice mail message from a woman "saying how she loved him and calling him sexy." That's PLENTY of justification for not trusting him. And seeing how he later admitted that the message was from a woman he was cheating with, it sure as hell wasn't "unwarranted."
2012-04-12 03:11:08 PM
2 votes:

ForMadmenOnly: Nope, I wouldn't want to be in here shoes but if I was married I would damn well know ahead of time if my husband wanted an open relationship or not and wouldn't try to avoid the conversation when he tried to have it. Also, I would marry someone just because they knocked me up. I also wouldn't marry someone if I thought they might cheat on me. I have walked away from a cheater but would never have wanted to hear from the other woman and am glad I didn't. Also, I would expect to take vacations by myself to exotic places and not expect my husband to think I was being faithful nor would I think he was being faithful I his own vacations.

/Will never be the unfaithful one again, it just feels dirty.
//Being other woman does not for some reason.


What's that about everything before the but?

Anyway - If you wouldn't want to be in her shoes, stop being an asshole.

Offer mitigating circumstances if you want, but you are contributing to assholish activity. Stop it.

For the record, I am reasonably sure the custom isn't for a woman (or a man) to have to ask if their partner wants an open relationship. In most cases, it is safe to assume a closed relationship is the default position. Husband is a jackass for not telling her beforehand. Shocker.

For the record, I'm pro equality, anti-marriage, and think religion is stupid in most cases. However, when the culture has a predominant form of a type of relationship, you're being a dick if you participate in breaking that custom.

Don't be a dick.
2012-04-12 03:02:56 PM
2 votes:

ForMadmenOnly: Nogale: ph0rk: ForMadmenOnly: /currently the other woman
//I know, I know, I'm horrible

Not good enough. Maybe for a drunken one-night stand, but after you've sobered up the only moral thing to do is demand they tell the other woman/break up.

Anything less is despicable, provided the man isn't in an open relationship.

I used to think the same thing but now I'm not sure. What if the guy has been cheating on his wife for a decade or more and ForMadmenOnly is just the flavor of the month? If he weren't with her, he'd be with someone else.

I'm not some evil chick that goes after married men but I've found that most of my married or committed relationship male friends have tried to sleep with me at one point and it has not been uncommon that they end up sleeping with another female friend of mine. And yes, currently the married man I am involved with is only committed to not being in a committed relationship.


Surely you must see a contradiction here. I'm aware of the possible gray areas in this situation, but if his wife doesn't know and assent, it's NOT any sort of "open relationship" and you're kidding yourself by saying that it is.
2012-04-12 12:33:39 PM
2 votes:

jtown: ihatedumbpeople: [www.mirror.co.uk image 615x409]

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based on looks alone, I can see why he bolted. Add in some paranoia and (up until then) false accusations, and people in dating relationships are gonna split quick.

/the girl looks much cuter in the first pic though, looks like she put on a few.

Except for the part where the accusations were actually true.

"I feel quite good about what happened. I'd been seeing another girl on a casual basis while I was dating Samantha but that's over. I finished that as soon as Jane came along." Just because she's paranoid doesn't mean he wasn't cheating.


That just means that she wasn't working hard enough to keep him happy. It is still her fault. At least that is the response when a woman cheats on her boyfriend, so I'm just assuming that it still holds.

ph0rk: Of course, I was told lately that dudes shouldn't ask for paternity tests because it shows lack of trust - whatever.

/I'm still asking for one if the time ever comes.


You are an idiot if you don't get one.

/Yes, that includes you Mr. I-trust-my-wife-and-she-would-never-cheat-on-me
2012-04-12 12:25:37 PM
2 votes:

ihatedumbpeople: Looks ain't everything. It's even worse if she's hot but a cold fish where it counts. Hot doesn't equal 'fun'.


Hot may not equal fun, and I doubt there's much of anybody who knows exactly how she was in the sack or elsewhere in the marriage, but it sure looks like she was pretty damn passionate- the whole "chase your ass down with a golf club" thing and all. She also seemed generally well balanced in how she got on with her life, so I've gotta assume the problems weren't on her end.
2012-04-12 12:14:08 PM
2 votes:
So.... paranoid chick has plenty of evidence that her man is cheating on her, but still has to prove it? She has a victim complex.... always has to be the victim so people around her will have sympathy and pay attention to her. She will always pick men who won't stick around long.

And the P.I.? Good luck, honey. Once a cheater, always a cheater.
2012-04-12 12:02:27 PM
2 votes:
Having just gotten done dating a 'Bad Person™' I've been thinking that there are just folks who have bad personal boundaries and are just screwed up. They're a different class from us people who live the mostly straight life and while it may seem like fun for a while in the end there are devastating consequences.
2012-04-12 11:58:22 AM
2 votes:

ihatedumbpeople: to



based on looks alone, I can see why he bolted. Add in some paranoia and (up until then) false accusations, and people in dating relationships are gonna split quick.

/the girl looks much cuter in the first pic though, looks like she put on a few.


Idk, I am far from the hottest chick in this city, but I doubt my bf would cheat on me.

Although I wouldn't hire a "Miss Honeytrap," so that could've a factor.
2012-04-12 11:43:31 AM
2 votes:
So, let me get this straight.

The trust in their (now previous) relationship was long gone by the time she hired this woman, said woman fell in love with her now ex, and we are supposed to feel sorry for her because she socially engineered their "chance encounter"?

You played with fire. You got burned. Deal with it. If you're not keeping your significant other happy (man or woman), that's your problem.

I'm married, my wife is terrific, and I have no desire to cheat on her. Not a night goes by where she's not in my arms for at least a few minutes, so I think she feels the same way.

Keep each other happy. If you can't/won't, end it and move on.
2012-04-12 11:37:38 AM
2 votes:

unyon: I laughed. Paranoid jealous woman gets what she deserves.


She wasn't paranoid, she was optimistic if anything. She should have gone with her gut and dumped the loser.
2012-04-12 11:37:28 AM
2 votes:

CheekyMonkey: ProTip: Don't move in with someone after dating them for only 6 weeks.


Yup. Sounds like she has a case of chronic acute failures of the mate selection process, yet she also compounds this with getting way too invested in these relationships way too quickly.

Mix that with trust issues, and it's a recipe for disaster. Sure, she wasn't wrong that he was cheating, but that goes back to a predilection for picking the wrong guy.

She needs to take this as a sign she needs to take some time and get her head straight.

As for the other two, well, he'll probably end up cheating on the new one too.
2012-04-12 11:26:36 AM
2 votes:
Sigh. I just got hired for a job that will require an extensive background check. I was thinking about my life and realized that anyone could put a private eye on me at any time and nothing interesting would turn up. Have I been living my life wrong? Poor PI hired to tail me - he or she would keel over from boredom.

That having been said, if you have your significant other tracked, it MIGHT be a sign that something is wrong with the relationship and you pretty much deserve any adverse results.
2012-04-12 11:24:37 AM
2 votes:
You mean the boyfriend dumped to woman that was so paranoid about him that she hired a private eye to follow him? Colour me shocked that he dumped a such a woman who would not at all murder him in his sleep for looking at another woman.
2012-04-13 09:05:19 AM
1 votes:

Julie Cochrane: The problem with mandatory paternity testing is it's also an invasion of the couple's privacy. If the husband has a fertility problem and the couple has conspired together to pull a switcheroo -- presumably with the consent of the man involved -- and just put the husband's name on the birth certificate, the couple is going to get caught.

The only way to avoid invading that couple's privacy is to make them able to waive the paternity test---which kind of defeats the purpose of making it mandatory.

A deliberate cuckoo in the nest is free. Lots of infertile couples cannot afford IVF. Lots of men's pride, throughout history, will handle the deliberate, quiet cuckoo for the sake of him having a son or a daughter---as long as nobody else knows.

The law is set up the way it is because the tradition of the deliberate cuckold as an infertility "fix" goes back millennia or more. IVF and sperm donors just took the sexytime out of it.

But IVF costs thousands of dollars a try, for very uncertain results. Getting super-rooster into your henhouse is pretty much guaranteed, as long as your hen doesn't have problems, too. And is generally free.

The law is set up to make paternity set in stone after a short while if you're married, even if you're not the biological father, to secure the parental rights of infertile men---against the wife in a divorce (since cuckoos are rarely going to come back for the baby)---when the pair have conspired together to use the traditional infertility workaround.

The presumption is that it's more likely that the husband is attached to the children and wants his parental rights protected than that he's resentful and wants to turf the kids out without a dime and never see them again.


Good lord. What a laughable load of bullshiat.
2012-04-13 08:56:24 AM
1 votes:
The problem with mandatory paternity testing is it's also an invasion of the couple's privacy. If the husband has a fertility problem and the couple has conspired together to pull a switcheroo -- presumably with the consent of the man involved -- and just put the husband's name on the birth certificate, the couple is going to get caught.

The only way to avoid invading that couple's privacy is to make them able to waive the paternity test---which kind of defeats the purpose of making it mandatory.

A deliberate cuckoo in the nest is free. Lots of infertile couples cannot afford IVF. Lots of men's pride, throughout history, will handle the deliberate, quiet cuckoo for the sake of him having a son or a daughter---as long as nobody else knows.

The law is set up the way it is because the tradition of the deliberate cuckold as an infertility "fix" goes back millennia or more. IVF and sperm donors just took the sexytime out of it.

But IVF costs thousands of dollars a try, for very uncertain results. Getting super-rooster into your henhouse is pretty much guaranteed, as long as your hen doesn't have problems, too. And is generally free.

The law is set up to make paternity set in stone after a short while if you're married, even if you're not the biological father, to secure the parental rights of infertile men---against the wife in a divorce (since cuckoos are rarely going to come back for the baby)---when the pair have conspired together to use the traditional infertility workaround.

The presumption is that it's more likely that the husband is attached to the children and wants his parental rights protected than that he's resentful and wants to turf the kids out without a dime and never see them again.
2012-04-13 01:30:12 AM
1 votes:

Crafty Bernardo: Given relationships are based on trust, there's nothing "faux" about the pain a woman would naturally feel if you wanted a paternity test shortly after she had your baby.

The more you post, the worse it gets... Unless you have some justifiable reason to think a child is not yours, thinking it's not morally reprehensible and socially unconscionable to expect your wife to be okey-dokey with demands that you submit your newborn child's DNA to a paternity test is fairly psychopathic.


I never even implied a woman would be okay with her man asking for a paternity test. Again...get rid of the guilt factor. If it's mandatory, there's no reason for dad to risk that wrath, and both parties wind up with the truth. How is the truth bad again?

Make it mandatory so that both male and female cheaters pay the price.

And for future reference, you don't need to implore people to "look up 'devil's advocate' so that I don't have to". Devil's advocacy isn't some obscure concept, you know... it's safe to assume others know what is.

Ummm..not sure why so hostile. If I recall, I conceded a point to you in my last post, and I wasn't trying to be overly insulting. Sorry if you know the term "devil's advocate" and chose to ignore the actual definition, but it generally means taking a position you don't necessarily agree with. You claim to understand this, but attack me for the argument that I presented as if I'm personally fundraising for "women that cheat with their husband's relatives." The only thing that I've come out in favor of is leveling the playing field.

Copying and pasting definitions of, or pretending to condescend to other's knowledge of, commonly known terms/words is not a scathing debate tactic, you know...

Neither is misusing words that you don't know.

While you're at it, you can retire the copy-pasting the definition of psychopath.. For the most part, people know psychopathic behavior when they see it.
I'm sorry, replace psychopath with sociopath throughout that last post.. I brainfarted the first time and then got stuck sniffing it the rest of the post.


No, you were actually closer to the definition you wanted than the guy you quoted:
Psychopathy (/saɪˈkɒpəθi/[1][2] from the Ancient Greek ψυχή "psyche", -soul and πάθος "pathos" -passion) is a personality disorder characterized by a pervasive pattern of disregard for the rights of others and the rules of society. Psychopaths have a total lack of empathy and remorse, and have very shallow emotions. They are generally regarded as callous, selfish, dishonest, arrogant, aggressive, impulsive, irresponsible, and hedonistic.

I'd retire the copy/pasta if you were actually using the words that you think you are.

Again, my original post was more aimed at the guy you were quoting, but feel free to come at me, bro...
2012-04-12 11:15:57 PM
1 votes:

Julie Cochrane: Aloy: Yes!!!! Honestly, at this point, I'd sign a prenup allowing a stoning if either of us cheated, and not even the good kind. I date guys that introduce themselves to me and talk to me like a person, and they always cheat.

/sorely tempted to give up

I don't get this--how you're ending up with so many cheaters. Are you dating the hot, funny guys who you kinda have to pursue a bit? Yeah, them. They do tend to cheat.

The guys who are more on the pursuing side of the equation, maybe a bit less smooth socially with the first impressions, may be worth a chance to make a second or third impression.

Not that I'm an expert. I'm just trying to find my own way through the wilderness.


God, no. The really hot ones not only attract more women, they often use more makeup than I do. No, tend to go for the latter, and you know, it's almost always that they secretly carry a torch for an ex-girlfriend, and it doesn't come out until later. It's the damnedest thing. It's extra depressing because the ex has the nostalgia factor, and no matter how hard you try, you can't compare to that rosy glow.

/wilderness is one way to put it
2012-04-12 10:59:11 PM
1 votes:

Crafty Bernardo: LoneWolf343: tollbooth_willy: FarkLiberty: umad: ph0rk: Of course, I was told lately that dudes shouldn't ask for paternity tests because it shows lack of trust - whatever.

/I'm still asking for one if the time ever comes.

You are an idiot if you don't get one.

/Yes, that includes you Mr. I-trust-my-wife-and-she-would-never-cheat-on-me

How about if the offspring looks, acts, and shares similar genetic quirks as you?

Are you still an idiot then?

Got a brother? How about a cousin?

Bunch of little sociopaths we have running around in this thread...

Yeah, no shait.

As for me, my oldest son looks just like me, and there's no brother and none of my male cousins look anything like me... so I'm cool there.

My two younger daughters look a lot more like their Mom... and at this point, if they're the spawn of the mailman or my cousin, I'd just as well rather continue being lied to, because I love the hell out've those little girls.

I've noticed that the people that have to know everything about everything also tend to be the most miserable... The lady in the article is Exhibit A.


so·ci·o·path [soh-see-uh-path, soh-shee-] Show IPA
noun Psychiatry .
a person with a psychopathic personality whose behavior is antisocial, often criminal, and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.


Sorry, how am I a sociopath? Someone presented a scenario, and I provided an alternate explanation to "my wife couldn't POSSIBLY have cheated." You should learn what words mean before you use them.

While you're looking things up, check out "devil's advocate." Not claiming the the situation I described would be anywhere near normal, but don't pretend you've never seen the farked up things that come out on Maury, Jerry Springer, Jenny Jones, etc...
2012-04-12 06:54:13 PM
1 votes:

ph0rk: Aloy: /Is there a dating site for people who have honor and fidelity yet?

It is called your local church.


But..but...no organized religion in my relationships, por favor.

/Forced to go to Baptist church with the last one
//I'll take a big pass on being treated like less because I have nothing dangling
///Want no part of Abramic religions
2012-04-12 06:42:54 PM
1 votes:

ph0rk: I also think that "love" is just a fancy word for "am used to you being around", and I even told her this.


Love is a fancy word for "I want you around no matter what".

Hey, at least if you told her this, then she has no one to be annoyed with but herself.
2012-04-12 06:11:17 PM
1 votes:

ph0rk: ObscureNameHere: There is no way that a happily married couple who try to have a chile then succeed would ever even CONTEMPLATE opening a discussion on 'paternity test'. By even bringing it up represents a mistrustful nature, ergo, you have already lost trust in the marriage.

See?

A woman always knows the maternity of her child. A man can never know with certainty.

That a woman would even contemplate denying this knowledge to a man (from a neutral 3rd party; she is clearly biased), shows severe character flaws.

/I really wish the state mandated paternity tests the first time any man was treated legally as a parent for a given child, would clear this right up.
//Don't want a paternity test taken? Don't put his name on the birth cert and don't ever ask for child support
///I like the idea of mandatory testing all the time better, but most are uncomfortable with this playfield-leveling idea.


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Lessen burden on the courts, and hopefully force help people be a bit more honest.
2012-04-12 06:01:37 PM
1 votes:
Guy dodged a serious bullet right there lol. Mind you so did the paranoid psycho-biatch. The pro-slut has probably bought herself a lemon though.
2012-04-12 05:53:21 PM
1 votes:

Aloy: LoneWolf343: No, the girlfriend was horrible, so the boyfriend dumped her for the nearest available woman.

FTA: '"The idea was to test men out, not steal them. I wouldn't say I stole Jack. Their relationship was doomed the moment she booked me because once the trust goes in a relationship that's it."'

Gospel truth.

So women have no choice but to blindly wander into every relationship with rainbows and butterflies in their eyes, going full flow into relationships and not allowed to even mention a whisper of the possibility of cheating without a man flipping out and going to go cheat?

/Maybe if guys didn't always cheat, women wouldn't get so worried about it.
/An ex is never just a friend
/Is there a dating site for people who have honor and fidelity yet?


That's grade-AAA bullshiat right there. Men don't "always cheat," and women cheat too. Will you admit that men also have the right to subject their spouses to "fidelity tests?"
2012-04-12 05:30:11 PM
1 votes:

ihatedumbpeople:
based on looks alone, I can see why he bolted. Add in some paranoia and (up until then) false accusations, and people in dating relationships are gonna split quick.

/the girl looks much cuter in the first pic though, looks like she put on a few.


did you miss the part where he admitted that he had been seeing someone else while they were dating?
2012-04-12 05:10:18 PM
1 votes:

ForMadmenOnly: I am out socializing every night. I was dating but stopped when I realized I didn't want a relationship. Getting back into the game now but I think forcing relationships leads to the very topic we are discussing.


There's nothing wrong with not wanting a relationship. There is a lot wrong with participating in an extramarital/extra-relationship affair, especially if you wouldn't want to be in the offended partner's position.

Since you don't want a relationship I think the obvious move is to not see this dude again. There are plenty of other men to have fun with without being a part of a real horrible experience for the other woman in the relationship.
2MS [TotalFark]
2012-04-12 05:06:33 PM
1 votes:

Julie Cochrane: 2MS: screwzloos: In my opinion, a paternity test falls in the same category as a prenuptial. Trust doesn't have anything to do with it, rather it's just a matter of realistic expectations. I wouldn't even think of marrying or having a child with someone (in that order) I didn't completely trust to begin with.

Unfortunately, no matter how good things are now, sometimes it just doesn't work out. The inconvenience of a quick test is a lot better than the unpleasant surprise that I was too blind to pick up that she's been dishonest until it was too late *and* the child isn't mine *and* I have to pay child support until he or she 18.

This. I only have 4 years left....

The problem with trust is that we speak of it when there are big stakes if it turns out to be misplaced.

Take the decision to be a stay-home mom. It's great if the marriage works out. But you really have to trust your husband and your relationship, because if it turns out you were wrong about either---you're completely and utterly farked.

It can turn out pretty bad.

Still better off out of the marriage than in it, and that's saying a lot.


So true.
2012-04-12 05:02:57 PM
1 votes:

2MS: screwzloos: In my opinion, a paternity test falls in the same category as a prenuptial. Trust doesn't have anything to do with it, rather it's just a matter of realistic expectations. I wouldn't even think of marrying or having a child with someone (in that order) I didn't completely trust to begin with.

Unfortunately, no matter how good things are now, sometimes it just doesn't work out. The inconvenience of a quick test is a lot better than the unpleasant surprise that I was too blind to pick up that she's been dishonest until it was too late *and* the child isn't mine *and* I have to pay child support until he or she 18.

This. I only have 4 years left....


The problem with trust is that we speak of it when there are big stakes if it turns out to be misplaced.

Take the decision to be a stay-home mom. It's great if the marriage works out. But you really have to trust your husband and your relationship, because if it turns out you were wrong about either---you're completely and utterly farked.

It can turn out pretty bad.

Still better off out of the marriage than in it, and that's saying a lot.
2MS [TotalFark]
2012-04-12 04:29:14 PM
1 votes:

screwzloos: In my opinion, a paternity test falls in the same category as a prenuptial. Trust doesn't have anything to do with it, rather it's just a matter of realistic expectations. I wouldn't even think of marrying or having a child with someone (in that order) I didn't completely trust to begin with.

Unfortunately, no matter how good things are now, sometimes it just doesn't work out. The inconvenience of a quick test is a lot better than the unpleasant surprise that I was too blind to pick up that she's been dishonest until it was too late *and* the child isn't mine *and* I have to pay child support until he or she 18.


This. I only have 4 years left....
2012-04-12 04:26:53 PM
1 votes:
In my opinion, a paternity test falls in the same category as a prenuptial. Trust doesn't have anything to do with it, rather it's just a matter of realistic expectations. I wouldn't even think of marrying or having a child with someone (in that order) I didn't completely trust to begin with.

Unfortunately, no matter how good things are now, sometimes it just doesn't work out. The inconvenience of a quick test is a lot better than the unpleasant surprise that I was too blind to pick up that she's been dishonest until it was too late *and* the child isn't mine *and* I have to pay child support until he or she 18.
2012-04-12 04:14:31 PM
1 votes:

Jim from Saint Paul: ph0rk: Jim from Saint Paul: If you want a spouse, don't be a weenie, get in there and make things work. Work hard. Have faith.

Absolutely not.

Then good luck out there. I wish you the best life you can have, good internet citizen.


It's working out just fine - I got nothing but first world problems.

I'm not bitter, I'm not angry, I'm just arguing a moral point. Hopefully for some who probably are bitter and angry and are unable to articulate it without getting man-motional (read: rage-stompy).
2012-04-12 04:12:13 PM
1 votes:

ph0rk: Jim from Saint Paul: If you want a spouse, don't be a weenie, get in there and make things work. Work hard. Have faith.

Absolutely not.


Then good luck out there. I wish you the best life you can have, good internet citizen.
2012-04-12 03:59:46 PM
1 votes:

royone: How come the Tfettes never comment on the hittability of the guys in stories?


Because it's not as likely to turn this into an eye bleach thread if we state the obvious -- that he looks like a cheap, shifty weasel.

Pass.
2012-04-12 03:57:57 PM
1 votes:

ForMadmenOnly: Well, I don't have any unmarried/committed relationship men lining up for dates with me. Men say I'm farkable if that matters for that statement.


There is an entire universe of shiat to talk about with that statement.

Try going out and looking for something instead of waiting for it to come to you comes to mind.


ObscureNameHere: In a marriage, yes, the other persons word HAS to be 'enough', or, the whole foundation of trust that the relationship is built on crumbles.


You say marriage is about trust, I say trust is important, but it is about being able to coexist.

Trusting someone not to piss in your coffee is one thing. Placing oneself's health (medical or financial) on the line at their word is another.

I won't do that, and only a fool would. Only a self entitled jerk would ask me to.
2012-04-12 03:55:41 PM
1 votes:

FarkLiberty: umad: You are already farked by then. If your name is on the birth certificate and you have been "acting as the father" there is no going back. The courts don't care that it isn't actually your kid.

So once your name is on the paper you're screwed? Or is there a reasonable time frame in which you can contest it?

/Didn't get my GED in law...


The reasonable time frame is after she gets pregnant and before your name is put on the certificate. The laws are slowly being changed to fix this, but there is still a long way to go. Link (new window)
2012-04-12 03:54:42 PM
1 votes:

ForMadmenOnly: Wow, based on the anger in both your discussions here I'd say you've been screwed over. You say fidelity is a joke but seem shocked at the fact there is someone in the thread admitting to cheating.


I think you're projecting anger, perhaps. This is just how I debate something.

That line should have been in scare-quotes, as it was a reference to the first half of the thread.

There was only one "maybe" in my past, it was early, it was over fast, I walked away.

I can still remember what it felt like, though, and as much of a dick as I am, I'd never want to do that to anyone, least of all someone I've been together with for a long time.
2012-04-12 03:49:47 PM
1 votes:
I never understood having to proove the other one is cheating unless there is going to be a messy divorce proceeding. If you suspect your boyfriend/girlfriend of cheating, leave them.
2012-04-12 03:12:38 PM
1 votes:

Digitalstrange: Lupine Chemist: LeroyBourne: I'd be worried if a girl wanted to move in after 6 weeks. Shiat, 6 months of dating is still a bit quick.

I'm planning on getting a place with the girl after 6 months and we both feel it's incredibly fast. Only doing it because things are working so well.

If you are really compatible then 2 days isn't too soon, and if you aren't then waiting 6 years to try it won't help. Pretty much the logical decision point is when you are spending 4 nights a week or more together for over a month straight. If that feels good and you want more then it's time to take the step forward. If you aren't looking forward to more time then it's time to consider moving on.


This....this is excellent advice. Thank you, internet man.
2012-04-12 02:59:06 PM
1 votes:

Aidan: umad: You are an idiot if you don't get one.

/Yes, that includes you Mr. I-trust-my-wife-and-she-would-never-cheat-on-me

I am in a perfectly fine (AFAIK!) relationship with my husband, we have one kid. I would have absolutely no issue with him having a paternity test. It would not make me feel hurt or betrayed or ANYTHING.

Paternity tests should not be a trust issue. They should just be done. It's no more emotionally draining than blood typing your baby, IMO.


I agree wholeheartedly, but many women do not. Affluent, educated, left-leaning women.

I find it upsetting, but there you are.
2012-04-12 02:56:55 PM
1 votes:

Nogale: I used to think the same thing but now I'm not sure. What if the guy has been cheating on his wife for a decade or more and ForMadmenOnly is just the flavor of the month? If he weren't with her, he'd be with someone else.


Because the right course of action there is to (1) tell him to fark off, (2) let the wife know (in writing, not in person), and (3) walk away.


i116.photobucket.com

Just walk away.
2012-04-12 02:47:14 PM
1 votes:

ForMadmenOnly: /currently the other woman
//I know, I know, I'm horrible


Not good enough. Maybe for a drunken one-night stand, but after you've sobered up the only moral thing to do is demand they tell the other woman/break up.

Anything less is despicable, provided the man isn't in an open relationship.
2012-04-12 02:42:38 PM
1 votes:
Speaking from experience, the less your S.O. trusts you, the better the chance that they will cheat on you their selves. Let us not forget it's an inescapable human tendency to judge others according to our own values, mores, methods and motivations.
2012-04-12 01:49:57 PM
1 votes:

CheekyMonkey: ProTip: Don't move in with someone after dating them for only 6 weeks.


This.
2012-04-12 01:18:24 PM
1 votes:

Lupine Chemist: LeroyBourne: I'd be worried if a girl wanted to move in after 6 weeks. Shiat, 6 months of dating is still a bit quick.

I'm planning on getting a place with the girl after 6 months and we both feel it's incredibly fast. Only doing it because things are working so well.


If you are really compatible then 2 days isn't too soon, and if you aren't then waiting 6 years to try it won't help. Pretty much the logical decision point is when you are spending 4 nights a week or more together for over a month straight. If that feels good and you want more then it's time to take the step forward. If you aren't looking forward to more time then it's time to consider moving on.
2012-04-12 01:10:58 PM
1 votes:
biatches. Cut throat biatches.
2012-04-12 12:59:56 PM
1 votes:

LeroyBourne: I'd be worried if a girl wanted to move in after 6 weeks. Shiat, 6 months of dating is still a bit quick.


I'm planning on getting a place with the girl after 6 months and we both feel it's incredibly fast. Only doing it because things are working so well.
2012-04-12 12:55:32 PM
1 votes:

James F. Campbell: ph0rk: No, no, no, no.

Stop citing Kanazawa, his methods are terrible. He tortures data until there's a controversial result. Ignoring him is the only way to reduce his cite count.

I did some research, and you're right. Kanazawa makes a living off of controversial claims and badly-mangled data. I'll stop citing him.

Interesting that, despite all the supposedly intelligent statisticians on Fark -- most of whom are well-known here -- you're the first one who has ever pointed out to me the problems with Kanazawa's research.


I may have been one of the few people who was knee deep in both the datasets he used for that paper at the time it came out. I know he's full of it, but it just isn't worth the time and trouble (at the current stage of my career) to demonstrate (in writing) just how full of it he is on that paper.

Others in the social and behavioral sciences are, I'm sure, aware he's full of crap. Well, the ones that didn't jump to that position immediately upon reading the title/abstract for political reasons. So, maybe I mean some within the social and behavioral sciences...

Ah who am I kidding, we're a rare breed :(
2012-04-12 12:55:20 PM
1 votes:

t3knomanser: BraveNewCheneyWorld: She was right all along.

I'm actually not convinced she was right. From the sound of it, she thought their relationship was more exclusive than he thought it was. "Cheating" implies that you're in an exclusive relationship but are also getting some on the side. If you're dating a couple of people, and one of them decides that you're exclusive even if you haven't made that decision- I'm not sure that's actually cheating.


He was keeping the other woman deliberately secret, so yeah, he's a cheater.
2012-04-12 12:47:03 PM
1 votes:

ph0rk: No, no, no, no.

Stop citing Kanazawa, his methods are terrible. He tortures data until there's a controversial result. Ignoring him is the only way to reduce his cite count.


I did some research, and you're right. Kanazawa makes a living off of controversial claims and badly-mangled data. I'll stop citing him.

Interesting that, despite all the supposedly intelligent statisticians on Fark -- most of whom are well-known here -- you're the first one who has ever pointed out to me the problems with Kanazawa's research.
2012-04-12 12:36:05 PM
1 votes:

umad: ph0rk: Of course, I was told lately that dudes shouldn't ask for paternity tests because it shows lack of trust - whatever.

/I'm still asking for one if the time ever comes.

You are an idiot if you don't get one.


I absolutely agree. However, some (many) otherwise "enlightened" women think that paternity tests are wrong and to ask for one is also wrong.

Also that raising a kid that is not your own (through deception) isn't a big deal. I wished I was making this up, but

THIS IS WHAT SOME WOMEN ACTUALLY BELIEVE.

/etc.
i^2
2012-04-12 12:32:21 PM
1 votes:

Egoy3k: Maybe he cheated because the paranoid freak of a girlfriend would pulled the old "I'm mad at you even though you did nothing wrong go sleep on the couch you bastard." routine a few too many times. I've been in a relationship with a jealous distrustful woman, and yeah I can see why he would cheat on the type of woman who would hire someone to 'test' him.

Imagine getting accused of cheating at random with no warning and being called a sack fo shiat and a liar and forced to battle it out over something you didn't do. Eventually you figure that you might as well just do it since you are already going to get in trouble for it anyway. Or leave her, which is what I did.


All that is pure speculation. The article provides a perfectly cogent, non-crazy reason for her to start suspecting him:
Administrator Samantha, from Bristol, says: "His mobile broke so I got it fixed only for a message to come up from a girl, a very blunt message, saying how she loved him and calling him sexy.

"I was shocked and thought 'here we go again, this is where it all goes wrong'. The message couldn't have made it clearer. Something was going on."


So tell me--how was her concern for the relationship in any way crazy, paranoid or irrational at that point?

Oh, and for all the, "crazy chick who moved in after six weeks is crazy" people, y'all sound like you're just looking for excuses to be an asshole.
2012-04-12 12:21:56 PM
1 votes:

t3knomanser: Nogale: Poor PI hired to tail me - he or she would keel over from boredom.

I have, at points, been tempted to hire a PI to tail myself, just to see what they turn up. Like, they wouldn't know I was the one that hired them. Some mysterious guy just hired them to follow me, that's all they know.


Can you imagine the conversations you'd have with yourself after getting the report? I still think I've been doing something wrong. At age 37 my life could stand up to any amount of scrutiny. There are a few things that might cause some slight embarrassment if made public, but nothing incriminating and certainly nothing that would jeopardize any relationships or employment. Damn - I need some adventures.
2012-04-12 12:18:18 PM
1 votes:
Some chunky, paranoid middle-aged office drone wonders why all her relationships go wrong after about a year. It obviously never occurred to her that a paranoid level of mistrust chases men away.

Did she think that all would be right in her relationship if the woman she hired to spy on and seduce her boyfriend came back and said "he was completely faithful... and you're a psycho"?
2012-04-12 12:17:44 PM
1 votes:

Nogale: Poor PI hired to tail me - he or she would keel over from boredom.


I have, at points, been tempted to hire a PI to tail myself, just to see what they turn up. Like, they wouldn't know I was the one that hired them. Some mysterious guy just hired them to follow me, that's all they know.
2012-04-12 12:12:36 PM
1 votes:

dopeydwarf: [www.mirror.co.uk image 620x819]

Looks like a nice upgrade.


i651.photobucket.com

Double Dose!
2012-04-12 12:06:08 PM
1 votes:

LoneWolf343: No, the girlfriend was horrible, so the boyfriend dumped her for the nearest available woman.

FTA: '"The idea was to test men out, not steal them. I wouldn't say I stole Jack. Their relationship was doomed the moment she booked me because once the trust goes in a relationship that's it."'

Gospel truth.


very true indeed...though a bit of courtesy froma person that does it for a living would be nice...

oh well, story reads like a fake tabloid article anyway...
2012-04-12 12:05:46 PM
1 votes:

Deadwing: probesport: Somewhere in a lonely hotel room there's a guy starting to realize That eternal fate has turned it's back on him.

Is it 2:00 a.m.?


It is, and the fear is gone.
2012-04-12 12:05:28 PM
1 votes:

jtown: ihatedumbpeople: [www.mirror.co.uk image 615x409]

to

[www.mirror.co.uk image 620x819]

based on looks alone, I can see why he bolted. Add in some paranoia and (up until then) false accusations, and people in dating relationships are gonna split quick.

/the girl looks much cuter in the first pic though, looks like she put on a few.

Except for the part where the accusations were actually true.

"I feel quite good about what happened. I'd been seeing another girl on a casual basis while I was dating Samantha but that's over. I finished that as soon as Jane came along." Just because she's paranoid doesn't mean he wasn't cheating.


Yeah. Also I was definitely the trusting gf to one of my exes, who was cheating on me. Something felt off but I told myself not to jump to conclusions. Turns out my gut instinct was right. Oh well.
2012-04-12 12:00:34 PM
1 votes:

i^2: Holy crap, does anyone bother to read to the end of the article? They interviewed the douche in question, and he admitted that he was, in fact, cheating on her during their relationship:

But Jack isn't ashamed at being exposed as a love rat. "The whole relationship with Samantha was a mistake. I knew that when we started living together and I should have finished with her sooner," he explains.

"I'm happy with Jane. She's a very attractive girl with a great personality. When we chatted in the pub that first night we just clicked straight away.

"I feel quite good about what happened. I'd been seeing another girl on a casual basis while I was dating Samantha but that's over. I finished that as soon as Jane came along."

So while she was clearly jealous, it was entirely justifiable. And while you may consider hiring "Miss Honeypot" as going a bit far, she had already confronted him directly about it and he lied to her face. I don't see how you can call that paranoid.


Maybe he cheated because the paranoid freak of a girlfriend would pulled the old "I'm mad at you even though you did nothing wrong go sleep on the couch you bastard." routine a few too many times. I've been in a relationship with a jealous distrustful woman, and yeah I can see why he would cheat on the type of woman who would hire someone to 'test' him.

Imagine getting accused of cheating at random with no warning and being called a sack fo shiat and a liar and forced to battle it out over something you didn't do. Eventually you figure that you might as well just do it since you are already going to get in trouble for it anyway. Or leave her, which is what I did.
2012-04-12 11:58:45 AM
1 votes:

AngryJailhouseFistfark: bim1154: Maybe if the girlfriend liked to take it up the ass, liked to get spanked with a riding crop, liked to do strip teases to music and all sort of other kink, she'd still be in good graces.

/Holy shiat... gave myself a boner!
//fap fap fap fap

You and me both. Now I gotta go see if my Preferred Stall is available in the Masturbatorium.


A comic I saw once said "Do whatever nasty ass shiat your man wants, because if you don't he'll find someone that will. And by the way, it's usually one of your damn friends too".
2012-04-12 11:54:30 AM
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So in January 2011, she made her move and asked him out. And he said yes.

Samantha, 26, recalls: "I finally thought at last I'd found someone decent and six weeks later I'd moved in with him.


//I'm shocked her relationships have never worked out as she seems to take her time in making important decisions.
2012-04-12 11:49:57 AM
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doglover: If you want to keep your love, you simply have to be better than the competition.


If you want to maintain fidelity in a relationship, this is exactly the wrong way to go about it.

This is terrible (and also blatantly incorrect) advice. There are plenty of cases of men who cheat on their beautiful, rich, etc. wives with someone who is less attractive, poorer, etc. It doesn't even have to do with willingness to perform certain sex acts.
2012-04-12 11:44:49 AM
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Fidelity is overrated.

If your SO cheats on you, what are you cheated out of?
What did you have that you don't still have?

Jealousy is a property issue, as in, "That's my girl/man/woman."
2012-04-12 11:41:23 AM
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CheekyMonkey: ProTip: Don't move in with someone after dating them for only 6 weeks.


Yep. If she had a history of doing this I can see why she ends up being disappointed all the time. Even if you spend every waking hour w/ someone for six weeks you still don't really know the person.
2012-04-12 11:40:49 AM
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"What can she do for you that I can't?"
"Anal."
2012-04-12 11:34:13 AM
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LarryDan43: Fake


Have to second this.
2012-04-12 11:29:30 AM
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I swear I saw this on Lifetime. The Bravo version ended with the women together, and the Cinemax version turned into a threesome.
2012-04-12 11:28:01 AM
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hubiestubert: There is a moment where you have to conclude that the one thing that all your failed past relationships have in common is you...


Part of me agrees but the other part of me thinks that if their is a person who meets the right match on their first shot then mathematically their are people who just keep getting bad matches. Then I get a sad.
2012-04-12 11:26:16 AM
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Fake
2012-04-12 09:42:04 AM
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cdn2.holytaco.com
2012-04-12 09:09:43 AM
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A good rule of thumb is everyone in the history of forever has been more or less not monogamous except for a select few. No one cheated on Marlyn Monroe when she was around, but plenty of folks would have cheated with her. If you want to keep your love, you simply have to be better than the competition.
 
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