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(The Wrap)   "The Holocaust is mostly horseshiat, and Hebes are a bunch of oven-dodging Jewboys who control America". Is that: a) Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, or b) David Duke, or c) Mel Gibson   (thewrap.com) divider line 155
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2012-04-12 06:05:20 AM
Oh my, what a surprise.

Also, he hates us, but he wants to convert us. That's like 15th century-style anti-semitism.
 
2012-04-12 06:47:06 AM
The hebes? That's a new one on me.
 
2012-04-12 06:49:55 AM
I think the fact that he wanted Joe Eszterhas involved in writing a movie about the Maccabes is an indication that he is either anti-Semitic or completely mad.
 
2012-04-12 07:08:04 AM
Nabb1: I think the fact that he wanted Joe Eszterhas involved in writing a movie about the Maccabes is an indication that he is either anti-Semitic or completely mad.
 
2012-04-12 07:22:14 AM
doglover: The hebes? That's a new one on me.

I think Archie Bunker used that term. It's been around a while.

Tatsuma: Oh my, what a surprise.

Also, he hates us, but he wants to convert us. That's like 15th century-style anti-semitism.


Ferdinand and Isabel would've LOVED Gibson, wouldn't they?
 
2012-04-12 07:26:50 AM
doglover: The hebes? That's a new one on me.

Is it pronounced Heebee? Like the hebe jebes?
 
2012-04-12 07:45:22 AM
Petit_Merdeux: doglover: The hebes? That's a new one on me.

Is it pronounced Heebee? Like the hebe jebes?


It's pronounced "heeb"

/Archie Bunker was quite fond of the word
 
2012-04-12 07:56:18 AM
MaudlinMutantMollusk: Petit_Merdeux: doglover: The hebes? That's a new one on me.

Is it pronounced Heebee? Like the hebe jebes?

It's pronounced "heeb"

/Archie Bunker was quite fond of the word


It's also used in "The Life of Brian" when Brian goes on a rant with his mom. He calls himself a "hebe" and a "Red Sea pedestrian," among other things.

/"Red Sea pedestrian" makes me snicker. If I was Jewish, I would refer to myself as that all the time.
 
2012-04-12 08:24:39 AM
Nabb1:

/"Red Sea pedestrian" makes me snicker. If I was Jewish, I would refer to myself as that all the time.


I forgot about that line. That is a god one :)
 
2012-04-12 08:41:52 AM
Amos Quito?
 
2012-04-12 08:57:07 AM
vartian: That is a god one

It was funny, but I wouldn't elevate it to divine status.
 
2012-04-12 09:11:22 AM
Petit_Merdeux: vartian: That is a god one

It was funny, but I wouldn't elevate it to divine status.


Humor is subjective. You can have it yahweh.
 
2012-04-12 10:05:46 AM
Nabb1: Petit_Merdeux: vartian: That is a god one

It was funny, but I wouldn't elevate it to divine status.

Humor is subjective. You can have it yahweh.


Win, and win. :)
 
2012-04-12 10:33:11 AM
Made me think of this:

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-04-12 10:34:03 AM
Antisemitism still exists? You don't say...
 
2012-04-12 10:34:31 AM
I just don't understand that attitude. It's almost like Mel and other Catholics are jealous of the jews for having suffered real, actual persecution. Since they didn't get to be martyred, they try to downplay it as much as they can.

Just blows my mind.

Isn't it time for Mel to just go away?
 
2012-04-12 10:38:23 AM
Mel either has to go away or kill himself, he has just gotten to be too much

/used to be a fan
//but after the 10th time he went crazy I gave up on him
 
2012-04-12 10:42:08 AM
Nabb1: Petit_Merdeux: vartian: That is a god one

It was funny, but I wouldn't elevate it to divine status.

Humor is subjective. You can have it yahweh.


Please accept this rare "funny" vote from me. It's a collectible in several states.
 
2012-04-12 10:44:15 AM
Let's see:
'TheWrap reported earlier that Warner Bros. has put the controversial project on hold, and rejected Eszterhas's script as lacking in "a sense of triumph."'

No doubt Gibson is antisemitic in some sense, but sounds like Eszterhas is trying to deflect attention from his crappy script.
 
2012-04-12 10:44:15 AM
Why in the blue hell is Mel Gibson being allowed to make a movie about a bagel, let alone an ancient Jewish army? Is there no one at any point in the process that could just say "Uh, maybe not so much, Mel"?
 
2012-04-12 10:44:36 AM
I give this thread 6 (pointed) stars.
 
2012-04-12 10:48:25 AM
Let me to g-dwin this thread

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-04-12 10:51:53 AM
Raug the Dwarf: I just don't understand that attitude. It's almost like Mel and other Catholics are jealous of the jews for having suffered real, actual persecution. Since they didn't get to be martyred, they try to downplay it as much as they can.

Just blows my mind.

Isn't it time for Mel to just go away?


Actually, Catholics have been persecuted - not recently, but they have. That's why the Irish were rebelling over in the UK - centuries of religious violence, Protestant vs. Catholic. And that completely ignores the ancient Catholic martyrs (like, say, St. Andrew) or the ones they made themselves (like Joan of Arc).
 
2012-04-12 10:52:31 AM
This is all second hand from a writer whose work was panned by both the studio and Mel Gibson. I'm not siding with Mel, but this seems like a disgruntled employee who is badmouthing his former boss.
 
2012-04-12 10:55:21 AM
Let it go. A racist windbag is always going to be a racist windbag no matter how many times you try to make him see what he's doing wrong. Let it die. Gibson will be dead in 30 years anyway.
 
2012-04-12 10:56:49 AM
But how can we be "oven-dodgers" if the Holocaust is "horseshiat?"

/racist logic
 
2012-04-12 10:57:49 AM
CapnPlaty: This is all second hand from a writer whose work was panned by both the studio and Mel Gibson. I'm not siding with Mel, but this seems like a disgruntled employee who is badmouthing his former boss.

Because there's a lack of anti-Semitic remarks on Mr. Gibsons part? And what's there to gain by repeating something most people aware of? Most of the population of the western hemisphere knows that Mr. Gibson hates Jews, so it's not like it's a startling revelation. He an antisemite. And an asshole.
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Finally got around to watching "The Passion of the Christ". How the hell did people think that piece of trash was a great movie? It's f*cking porn. Very little information to be gained accept the Romans were some crazy torture freaks.
 
2012-04-12 10:59:33 AM
The Oven Dodging Jewboys is the name of my Little River Band cover band.
 
2012-04-12 11:04:17 AM
jayhawk88: Why in the blue hell is Mel Gibson being allowed to make a movie about a bagel, let alone an ancient Jewish army?

Because Apocalypto was goddamn fantastic, and this movie probably will be as well.

Dude is a crazy racist, but he has talent, and Hollywood has always been willing to forgive pretty much any sin if you're talented enough. Hell, we give Polanski film awards, and he raped a kid and fled the country to avoid a slap-on-the-wrist sentence.
 
2012-04-12 11:06:53 AM
I'm not surprised. Mel Gibson thinks this guy:

www.texemarrs.com

was a bleeding-heart molly-coddling liberal.
 
2012-04-12 11:16:09 AM
Its OK Mel Gibson, Mel Brooks is a much better actor and director than you, and he happens to be an oven dodger.
 
2012-04-12 11:18:44 AM
Well I can see that Mel is just a barrel of fun to be around.
 
2012-04-12 11:25:39 AM
So I might have read that as C) Mel Brooks. Needless to say, it confused the sh*t out of me.

/Need more coffee
 
2012-04-12 11:26:23 AM
Nabb1: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Petit_Merdeux: doglover: The hebes? That's a new one on me.

Is it pronounced Heebee? Like the hebe jebes?

It's pronounced "heeb"

/Archie Bunker was quite fond of the word

It's also used in "The Life of Brian" when Brian goes on a rant with his mom. He calls himself a "hebe" and a "Red Sea pedestrian," among other things.

/"Red Sea pedestrian" makes me snicker. If I was Jewish, I would refer to myself as that all the time.


To be fair, as a Jew it is actually my favorite slang term for Jews ever.
 
2012-04-12 11:26:42 AM
indarwinsshadow: Because there's a lack of anti-Semitic remarks on Mr. Gibsons part? And what's there to gain by repeating something most people aware of? Most of the population of the western hemisphere knows that Mr. Gibson hates Jews, so it's not like it's a startling revelation. He an antisemite. And an asshole.

uh? Because if you accuse someone already guilty of something people are going to believe you.

It's the same principle behind the sex offender list. If I do something sexual and charge him on the sex offender guy, they're going to believe it's him and forget about me.

Joe wrote some crappy script and was shot down, so he's badmouthing Gibson because he knows it'll stick easily.

If Gibson hating jews was already known fact, why was Joe working with him anyway?
 
2012-04-12 11:26:47 AM
Raug the Dwarf: I just don't understand that attitude. It's almost like Mel and other Catholics are jealous of the jews for having suffered real, actual persecution. Since they didn't get to be martyred, they try to downplay it as much as they can.

Just blows my mind.

Isn't it time for Mel to just go away?


Be fair, early Christians also suffered real, actual persecution. That was way over by the time Catholicism was formalized, of course.
 
2012-04-12 11:30:33 AM
Mel "Sugartits" Gibson has run off the damn rails again with yet another anti-Semitic rant?

I did Nazi that coming.
 
2012-04-12 11:32:01 AM
Tatsuma: Oh my, what a surprise.

Also, he hates us, but he wants to convert us. That's like 15th century-style anti-semitism.

www.jonathanrosenbaum.com
 
2012-04-12 11:32:48 AM
I believe him.
 
2012-04-12 11:36:25 AM
This is just sad. Mel apparently couldn't see the error of his ways and stuck with hatred, or possibly insanity.

Seeing him fall from a great entertainer with a bunch of movies I enjoyed is kind of like watching Michael Jackson get weirder and weirder.

So long Crazy Mel, thanks for the memories. Go retire and disappear.
 
2012-04-12 11:37:08 AM
[Eszterhaus] had a religious awakening after contracting throat cancer in 2001 and left Hollywood, moving back to his native Cleveland.

...

After encountering Gibson's conduct, Eszterhas writes that he felt trapped, but then decided to ignore the racist remarks and write the script based on his own research.


Yeah. He's a real hero, selling out his religion for a farking script deal with Warner Bros.
 
2012-04-12 11:37:41 AM
Saying the above will get you ostracized permanently from H'wood, but drugging and raping at least one 13 year old child will get you a standing ovation and special achievement Oscar.

Alrighty, then.
 
2012-04-12 11:39:37 AM
Boy, that's a whole lot of ugly right there.
 
2012-04-12 11:42:03 AM
rocky_howard: indarwinsshadow: Because there's a lack of anti-Semitic remarks on Mr. Gibsons part? And what's there to gain by repeating something most people aware of? Most of the population of the western hemisphere knows that Mr. Gibson hates Jews, so it's not like it's a startling revelation. He an antisemite. And an asshole.

uh? Because if you accuse someone already guilty of something people are going to believe you.

It's the same principle behind the sex offender list. If I do something sexual and charge him on the sex offender guy, they're going to believe it's him and forget about me.

Joe wrote some crappy script and was shot down, so he's badmouthing Gibson because he knows it'll stick easily.

If Gibson hating jews was already known fact, why was Joe working with him anyway?


Darth Macho: [Eszterhaus] had a religious awakening after contracting throat cancer in 2001 and left Hollywood, moving back to his native Cleveland.

...

After encountering Gibson's conduct, Eszterhas writes that he felt trapped, but then decided to ignore the racist remarks and write the script based on his own research.

Yeah. He's a real hero, selling out his religion for a farking script deal with Warner Bros.


Two and two together equals what if it's not considered selling out if there's profit at the end of the day. Business is business. I like the 'Joe is salting the earth' theory because Mel fked with his money.

/remember the 90s when Joe was getting clowned left and right for being a misogynist?
//some sins are more forgiveable than others
 
2012-04-12 11:42:58 AM
jayhawk88: Why in the blue hell is Mel Gibson being allowed to make a movie about a bagel, let alone an ancient Jewish army? Is there no one at any point in the process that could just say "Uh, maybe not so much, Mel"?

Because mad mel would be crazy enough to do it well, with language and costume of the period, not starring some flavor of the month in the lead role & some generic big bad goy with a german or british accent.
 
2012-04-12 11:43:32 AM
Aw, come on, Mel--tell us what you really think! Don't be goy--er, coy...
 
2012-04-12 11:44:01 AM
doglover: The hebes? That's a new one on me.

You never saw Casino? Pesci had a great line...."We're supposed to be robbing the place to dumb Hebe"
 
2012-04-12 11:44:22 AM
Darth Macho: [Eszterhaus] had a religious awakening after contracting throat cancer in 2001 and left Hollywood, moving back to his native Cleveland.

...

After encountering Gibson's conduct, Eszterhas writes that he felt trapped, but then decided to ignore the racist remarks and write the script based on his own research.

Yeah. He's a real hero, selling out his religion for a farking script deal with Warner Bros.


It's always best to stand up for one's morals after giving up their values. I'm sure a greelight on the picture and a big check would have kept Joe quiet, happy and working. It doesn't mean Gibson isn't a giant douche but it doesn't mean Joe isn't either.
 
2012-04-12 11:52:51 AM
Tatsuma: Oh my, what a surprise.

Also, he hates us, but he wants to convert us. That's like 15th century-style anti-semitism.


Well, that's what you call a "compassionate anti-Semite". He doesn't want to wipe you from the face of the earth, he just wants to save you from the fires of hell by forcing you to abandon your heathen ways. You know, just like that great humanitarian Torquemada
 
2012-04-12 11:53:24 AM
ExperianScaresCthulhu: /remember the 90s when Joe was getting clowned left and right for being a misogynist?

ha, I did think it was funny that Joe was coming to the aid of Mel's ex.
 
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