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(LA Times)   Remember all that hoopla about Ann Romney softening Mitt's image? Reality is she is a stay at home Stepford wife who has never held a job   (latimes.com) divider line 473
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2012-04-12 04:17:03 PM  

farkityfarker: trivial use of my dark powers: MorrisBird: cameroncrazy1984: Because she's a poor, defenseless, little woman who is too fragile to be touched and possibly needs a fainting couch? Come on.

Because she's a woman who raised 5 sons while suffering multiple sclerosis and overcoming cancer and married to an asshole. Would that I had her energy. She's not running for political office. Back the fark off.

THIS

I'm not a fan of the Romneys, and Ann Romney shouldn't speak as though she understands women who work outside the home--because she doesn't--but raising 5 boys is WORK. One weekend with my two nephews and I'm wiped out. She may be a lot of things, but lazy and weak she isn't.

Nothing against Ann Romney, but do you really believe that people in her socioeconomic stratum raise their children by themselves without hired help?


I'm sure she has maids and nannies, but unless they shipped the kids off to boarding schools for most of their childhoods (which they very well may have, I don't know) it's still work.

Of course, just thinking about kids makes me tired, so I may be prejudiced.
 
2012-04-12 04:23:32 PM  

DirkValentine: you actually called it obtuse when I questioned how her law career and high level government jobs gave her that insight

Now you're just full of shiat. That's not why I called you obtuse. You are moving goalposts, dissecting definitions and just straight up denying facts. You weren't questioning "her law career and high level government jobs" b/c that's just a PORTION of what I pasted from Wiki. Below I've bolded wtf I'm talking about.

Following law school, she was an associate at the Chicago office of the law firm Sidley Austin, where she first met her future husband. At the firm, she worked on marketing and intellectual property.[4] She continues to hold her law license, but as she no longer needs it for her work, it has been on a voluntary inactive status since 1993.[46]
In 1991, she held public sector positions in the Chicago city government as an Assistant to the Mayor, and as Assistant Commissioner of Planning and Development. In 1993, she became Executive Director for the Chicago office of Public Allies, a non-profit organization encouraging young people to work on social issues in nonprofit groups and government agencies.[19] She worked there nearly four years and set fundraising records for the organization that still stood 12 years after she left.[17]
In 1996, she served as the Associate Dean of Student Services at the University of Chicago, where she developed the University's Community Service Center.[47] In 2002, she began working for the University of Chicago Hospitals, first as executive director for community affairs and, beginning May 2005, as Vice President for Community and External Affairs.[48] She continued to hold the University of Chicago Hospitals position during the primary campaign, but cut back to part time in order to spend time with her daughters as well as work for her husband's election;[49] she subsequently took a leave of absence from her job.[50] According to the couple's 2006 income tax return, her salary was $273,618 from the ...


wtf are you talking about now? None of those jobs make her a working class woman privy to the day to day struggles of such women. You're going to argue that she knows what life is like vis-a-vis the daily struggles or working class women by being the executive director of a non-prof that encourages kids to work for non-profs? Assistant Commissioner of Planning and Development IS a highlevel government job.
Associate Dean of Student Services at UoC gave her intimate knowledge of the struggles of working women? Why, because a few might've come in to speak to a person who worked under her? Are you for real man?
 
2012-04-12 04:32:47 PM  

QU!RK1019: Jesus Christ, are all conservatives as farking retarded as the ones on Fark?


Dude, head to Free Republic or check out the Fox News message board sometime. The ones we have are GENIUSES by comparison.
 
2012-04-12 04:39:01 PM  

Daraymann: So NOW the Democrats are saying that being a stay at home mom is not work and makes you dumb?


No dumbass. One single person said that being a stay-at-home mom hardly isn't even remotely the same thing as having a paying job. Unless, of course, you're willing to admit that Mitt just pays Ann for services rendered. Holy crap, stop pretending to be stupid.
 
2012-04-12 04:40:52 PM  

MorrisBird: Ann Romney has multiple sclerosis and is a cancer survivor. She's married to a Mormon robot and raised five boys. She is not fair game. Neither is Michelle Obama. Back off. The War on Women is palpable and it needs to stop with the progressives. End of sermon.


If they put themselves out there to support their husbands as a political candidate then they are fair game. Period.
 
2012-04-12 04:49:51 PM  

EWreckedSean: someonelse: EWreckedSean: someonelse: EWreckedSean: The DNC just said a stay at home mother of 5 has never worked a day in her life. Lol, thanks for that DNC, we here on the right appreciate you alienating the entire female sex. Pelase go on.

No, but you just said the DNC said it, and it's important to make that link, isn't it.

I don't understand your point? She is a representative of the DNC.

A DNC official sends word this morning that "Hilary Rosen is not an adviser to the DNC. Our contract for media services is exclusively with Anita Dunn."

Frankly I don't know what her connection is, but at best -- if you're being intellectually honest, that is -- at best she is a media consultant who has worked with lots of different people. Trying to turn her words into an official DNC statement is partisan idiocy. And you jumped at it.

The media is pushing the DNC connection, not me.


The chain of conversation that you actually quote would suggest that is not the case.
It is right up there I don't understand your point? She is a representative of the DNC.
Do you get paid to be this stupid. Because you're pretty good at it. I hope you're getting paid...
You should never do something you're good at for free.
 
2012-04-12 05:06:00 PM  

nopokerface: Still vilifying being a full time wife and mother?

Good job, kids.


I think being a full-time wife and mother is a very important job. All women with children are mothers 24-hours-a-day. That said, when the Romney camp wants to paint her as someone who understands the typical woman's struggle, well, no. Mrs. Romney is married to a very wealthy man. She doesn't have to worry about putting food on the table and getting the rest of the bills paid. Since she has never worked outside the home, she doesn't understand the kind of scheduling problems a woman with a paying job has. She's never had to determine how sick her child was over the phone to determine if she should leave work early to pick up the sick child. She has never had to worry about losing her job because one of her children is sickly, and she's had to call off or take time off too much.

The choice of words was poor. It's just wrong to say that a stay-at-home wife and mother doesn't have a job. She does. My mom was a stay-at-home wife and mother. She could pinch a penny until it screamed. She did a lot of good for the neighborhood and the community. But she didn't have a job in an office or a factory. She wasn't going to be fired because one of us was in and out of the hospital. And my mom was lucky enough that my dad's income was enough to meet expenses with her housekeeping skills (which were formidable). My mom had many great qualities, but, she, like Ann Romney, had no concrete experience with the stress experienced by the moms that I work with because my mom's situation was different. And, like Ann Romney, my mom did not have to worry that her lack of income would mean losing the house or that her children couldn't go to the doctor or to college.

You can paint this as an insult to Ann Romney. And, certainly, if anyone really had tried to say that stay-at-home moms did nothing but eat bon-bons and watch soaps, that person would deserved to be cold-cocked. But that isn't what happened here. Someone used very sloppy language to say that moms who are full-time wives and mothers with paying jobs (which represent most women) often have different economic stress than women who work as full-time wives and mothers without a paying jobs outside the home. Since most women do not work out of choice, this is a real issue in America right now. Turning this into "they're trashing real moms!" could leave the impression that the Romney campaign doesn't comprehend the stresses on mothers who have to work at paying jobs. I don't think it would be fair to say the Romney campaign thinks women who work outside the home are not real mothers, or even that they are not mothers 24-hours-a-day. And clearly, the women who said Ann Romney had no job merely meant she doesn't have a W-4 for her work. And we should take just as much umbrage at that as someone who describes only stay-at-home moms as being full-time moms. That is, we should take no umbrage.
 
2012-04-12 06:45:45 PM  
Subby is a farking r-tard.

Surprised the libs are distancing themselves from Rosen biatch.
 
2012-04-12 06:49:41 PM  
Just a note: this thread, more than any other of recent note, has verified my "Every single Republican is a dishonest, hateful jackass" theory. From completely misrepresenting the issue ("OMG! Pointing out that Ann Romney has never held a job is INSULTING her!") to the typical "I know you are, but what am I?" line of idiocy ("Democrats hate women, because they want them to be able to have jobs and leave the house!") there is no defending a single Republican posting here. Every single one appears to either be purposely trolling, or legitimately evil.

Hey guys: A woman with a job said that she didn't think a woman who's never had a job should be making policy for working women. And by "working women", I think anyone who wasn't purposely trying to be an idiot would realize she meant "women in the workplace."

Honestly, if you think this is gonna convince the female electorate that Republicans are suddenly their friends, valiantly fighting for a woman's right to stay barefoot and pregnant, you're seriously delusional.
 
2012-04-12 06:51:04 PM  

Stinkyy: Subby is a farking r-tard.

Surprised the libs are distancing themselves from Rosen biatch.


...completely UN-surprised that you refer to women as "biatches".
 
2012-04-12 07:41:35 PM  
Mavent

But saying "she's never worked a day in her life" was just amazingly stupid.

I think what's "amazingly stupid"...



Well you're kind of a one trick pony, are'nt you. I see call everyone whose disagrees with you stupide. Bet you make your point and win arguments with that one. Irony not lost on you, wouldn't you say.
 
2012-04-12 08:25:33 PM  

MorrisBird: cameroncrazy1984: Because she's a poor, defenseless, little woman who is too fragile to be touched and possibly needs a fainting couch? Come on.

Because she's a woman who raised 5 sons while suffering multiple sclerosis and overcoming cancer and married to an asshole. Would that I had her energy. She's not running for political office. Back the fark off.


Ok. Just as soon as Mitt stops using her for his campaign. Do you not recall that he said that he consults Ann to find out what women care about?
 
2012-04-12 08:37:58 PM  

Buffalo77: Mavent

But saying "she's never worked a day in her life" was just amazingly stupid.

I think what's "amazingly stupid"...


Well you're kind of a one trick pony, are'nt you. I see call everyone whose disagrees with you stupide. Bet you make your point and win arguments with that one. Irony not lost on you, wouldn't you say.


Trust me, the irony of your post is in no way lost on me.
 
2012-04-12 08:54:45 PM  
Overzealous "Reporter". Non-story.

Rosen was told to STFU multiple times by the Obama campaign in the article. Rosen was told to STFU multiple times by the Romney campaign in the article. Rosen needs to STFU, and was told multiple times in this thread.
 
2012-04-12 09:07:06 PM  

Mavent: Stinkyy: Subby is a farking r-tard.

Surprised the libs are distancing themselves from Rosen biatch.

...completely UN-surprised that you refer to women as "biatches".


Not WOMEN, just A biatch. RIF.
 
2012-04-12 09:14:21 PM  

GAT_00: And to the Michele comments, she hasn't been part of the campaign, she hasn't made campaign statements. If she does, then yes she's fair game. She's also been under constant attack for four years so that won't make a difference.


Wooooooooooow. Your are really, really stupid. (new window)
 
2012-04-12 10:01:24 PM  

nopokerface: Are you guys really saying that Michelle didn't make political statements on her husband's behalf when he was runnning?


They are, despite the fact that a YouTube search of "Michelle Obama Campaign" brings up videos of her activity during the 2012 Presidential campaign.
 
2012-04-12 10:24:02 PM  

Carousel Beast: nopokerface: Are you guys really saying that Michelle didn't make political statements on her husband's behalf when he was runnning?

They are, despite the fact that a YouTube search of "Michelle Obama Campaign" brings up videos of her activity during the 2012 Presidential campaign.


Yes, and thank goodness you Republican types weren't screaming asshole douchebags to her over it. Oh wait. You were.
 
2012-04-12 10:25:02 PM  

Stinkyy: Mavent: Stinkyy: Subby is a farking r-tard.

Surprised the libs are distancing themselves from Rosen biatch.

...completely UN-surprised that you refer to women as "biatches".

Not WOMEN, just A biatch. RIF.


Much like you're not a man, you're a moron.
 
2012-04-13 02:51:19 AM  

Petit_Merdeux: lobster


PICK ME!!

I don't like how Michelle Obama says she supports military families when she or her husband never served. How would she know what my son, and siblings go through when I'm away!

Honestly Rosen was an idiot for stating that. She can pick on Mitt all she wants but leave the families out of it. I'm registered a Republican but I'm pretty moderate in most of my views. My older sister would love to see Santorum goose step into office. I tend to vote for the candidate and not the party. Probably be changing my party affiliation to the Whig party soon if the right wingers continue down the path they are going.
 
2012-04-13 04:40:04 AM  

Ablejack: tenpoundsofcheese: Stoj: Can someone point me to where Mitt or his wife claimed that she understands the plight of the working woman? I may have missed it.
Thank you!

No. It is a just a strawman that they use.

She recently campaigned on that subject, that's what we are discussing here. Albeit for a Republican candidate, in which case understanding the subject has never been a prerequisite.
/Rosen has apologized for her remarks as well.


The well oiled dem-o-rat war on women continues??
 
2012-04-13 05:43:14 PM  

Mavent: Stinkyy: Mavent: Stinkyy: Subby is a farking r-tard.

Surprised the libs are distancing themselves from Rosen biatch.

...completely UN-surprised that you refer to women as "biatches".

Not WOMEN, just A biatch. RIF.

Much like you're not a man, you're a moron.


Butthurt much? Even your president Hussein Fartsatan Jr. raked this biatch over the coals. Welcome to Fark, biatch.
 
2012-04-13 08:53:20 PM  
Seems the war on women is also being waged by...women..?

Some good "strategery" by Rosen.
 
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