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2012-04-12 04:41:03 PM

MDGeist: Haha! I really liked all those movies.


I liked them also, I was even pleased they weren't as bad as I thought they would be, I have extremely low expectations.
 
2012-04-12 04:42:30 PM

Coelacanth: Superman Returns would've been a far better film if they hadn't deleted stuff like this Link (new window)


The clip is pretty, but that's about it. Superman Returns suffers because the deadbeat dad is a creepy stalker, and is upstaged by James Masden.
 
2012-04-12 04:43:01 PM
I liked Johnny Mnemonic
 
2012-04-12 04:43:36 PM

Seth'n'Spectrum: Treygreen13: I liked The Hitchhiker's Guide. But it's such a beloved book that I can see how somebody could consider it a "disappointment". The film doesn't allow for all the hilariously random thought processes of the characters to be imparted upon the viewer.

It also launched the career of Martin Freeman and had a generally great cast all around.

Maybe if I rewatched it now I would hate it, but at the time I thought it wasn't a bad attempt at all.


Zooey Deschanel, while totally cute, was terrible in that movie. Although not as bad as the girl that played Trillian in the TV series, admittedly. The biggest problem, with it, though, is they cut out a huge amount of the humor, and added uninteresting subplots involving John Malkovich and rescuing Trillian from the Vogons.
 
2012-04-12 04:49:22 PM

extroverted_suicide: Considering it was disappointing movies, not crappy movies, I submit:

[www.wildaboutmovies.com image 325x481]

The first act was such a great scifi film and character study, then it just devolved into a forgettable monster movie. With a lame monster.


In that case I'll bring up this:

content6.flixster.com

Arguably a better example of the same exact problem. Compelling sci-fi devolved into completely lame horror.
 
2012-04-12 04:52:00 PM
The problem with Matrix Reloaded is that all the action scenes do nothing to advance the plot.

They get in a huge car chase to rescue the Key Master so they can unlock a door to talk to the Architect.

The Architect tells Neo he has a choice: save Trinity, or save the Matrix.
Neo saves Trinity. Nothing happens to the Matrix.

We find out Neo can manipulate reality outside the Matrix, leading the audience to believe that maybe there's a Matrix within a Matrix.

None of these events are ever mentioned again.

The entire movie is a speedbump.
 
2012-04-12 04:53:24 PM

thecpt: FeedTheCollapse: verbaltoxin: Terminator: Salvation. What a giant, nonsensical pile of horse crap.

I would also add that I'm surprised the 2nd and 3rd Matrix movie don't have more of a cult following. To me, Reloaded felt like the Wachowskis buying into their own hype and making a glorified fanfiction, but I thought that would at least appeal to someone. Otherwise, the only really defense I've seen of the sequels is a half-hearted "well, they aren't that bad."

I may one day get around to seeing Revolutions, but it doesn't sound like an enticing prospect even when I see HBO airing it.

Yeah thats me. The second(on this list) was great for fans. It tied in the animatrix and some of its sub plots, had a good cliff hanger, great action and fight sequences, and explored what the Matrix really is and how it contains humans.

third one sucked and for some reason the second one gets clumped with it.


Because the second and third movies are so closely tied together it's not so much a trilogy as a ... duology(?) where the second story is split into two parts. If you read a 900 page novel and the first half is decent or great and the second half sucks, you probably wouldn't recommend the book overall.
 
2012-04-12 04:59:24 PM
Oh I would like to preemptively add Total Recall (2012) to this list.


Been looking forward to it for years. But then they announced Colin Farrell. Then I saw the trailer. It's going to be disappointing.

/johnnycab
 
2012-04-12 05:01:26 PM

ZantiMisfit: The problem with Matrix Reloaded is that all the action scenes do nothing to advance the plot.

They get in a huge car chase to rescue the Key Master so they can unlock a door to talk to the Architect.

The Architect tells Neo he has a choice: save Trinity, or save the Matrix.
Neo saves Trinity. Nothing happens to the Matrix.

We find out Neo can manipulate reality outside the Matrix, leading the audience to believe that maybe there's a Matrix within a Matrix.

None of these events are ever mentioned again.

The entire movie is a speedbump.



Pretty much. The car chase and the Agent Smith brawl scene were the first time I think I ever stopped paying attention to a movie in the middle of an action sequence. Those movies insisted upon themselves.
 
2012-04-12 05:12:41 PM
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2012-04-12 05:16:09 PM

JPINFV: [upload.wikimedia.org image 220x326]

Just leaving this one here...


1/10
 
2012-04-12 05:17:08 PM

MithrandirBooga: Oh I would like to preemptively add Total Recall (2012) to this list.


Been looking forward to it for years. But then they announced Colin Farrell. Then I saw the trailer. It's going to be disappointing.

/johnnycab


the real indicator of quality is Kate Beckinsale. I know people like to go on about how hot she is, but she stars in nothing but terrible movies. It's like if Scarlett Johansson had a terrible agent.
 
2012-04-12 05:19:31 PM

DeaH: Dumb-Ass-Monkey: recorder

Yeah, that stuck out for me, too. Who pronounced "daughter" as "dorder"?


No no no. You've got it wrong.

Flight Recawdah, President's Dawdah.

The author is from Massachusetts, apparently.
 
2012-04-12 05:21:16 PM
Godzilla (1998) wasn't awful, it's just ridiculously generic. If it had been named anything else it might have been an ok monster movie. But as it stands it comes off little more than a King Kong / Jurassic Park hybrid that used the Godzilla name as a selling point. There were also the stupid French jokes, the Siskel and Ebert stuff, and the humor centered on the name of the main protagonist that detracted from the flow of the film.

The First Matrix did everything right and never should have been made into a trilogy. I went to see Reloaded with high expectations and because of the experience I had with that film I still have yet to watch Revolutions.

About 4 months prior to the release of I am Legend I started turning people on to the book, which is one of my all-time favorites. Not only was I disappointed but also had inadvertently set up several of my friends for an extreme let down by the film. I wasn't expecting an Oscar worthy adaptation from what was essentially a summer action film, but they could have at least tried to incorporate the themes of the book. Really this movie suffers from the same problem Godzilla does, they swiped a known name for a generic monster movie.
 
2012-04-12 05:23:40 PM

Ed Grubermann: elvindeath: [img231.imageshack.us image 400x478]

The one reason Lost in Space does not deserve to be on that list.

[www.atalude.net image 500x500]


I waited until she was in maxim to fap to her
honestly!!!
 
2012-04-12 05:24:53 PM

extroverted_suicide: Considering it was disappointing movies, not crappy movies, I submit:

[www.wildaboutmovies.com image 325x481]

The first act was such a great scifi film and character study, then it just devolved into a forgettable monster movie. With a lame monster.


this this and more this
when will the farktards in hollywood stop equating scifi and monster/horror movie?
for the love of god please stop
please stop
please stop
 
2012-04-12 05:29:13 PM
as far as personal disappointments, I really never understood the hype around Children of Men. Its lack of subtlety ("OMG, they referenced Pink Floyd's 'Animals'. This movie is so deep!") just made it extremely goofy. It'll be a "great" movie that won't hold up well at all.


not Sci-Fi, but "Drive" was also another movie that got an inexplicable amount of acclaim that was disappointing. Somewhere inside the movie, there is a germ of a good film, but it was either radically edited from its original version or it was a 40 minute filmed stretched out to 90+ minutes. Either way, it felt like Playskool's "My First Art Film" with a crappy soundtrack.
 
2012-04-12 05:30:08 PM

ZantiMisfit: The problem with Matrix Reloaded is that all the action scenes do nothing to advance the plot.

They get in a huge car chase to rescue the Key Master so they can unlock a door to talk to the Architect.

The Architect tells Neo he has a choice: save Trinity, or save the Matrix.
Neo saves Trinity. Nothing happens to the Matrix.

We find out Neo can manipulate reality outside the Matrix, leading the audience to believe that maybe there's a Matrix within a Matrix.

None of these events are ever mentioned again.

The entire movie is a speedbump.


I think the thing that was supposed to happen to the Matrix was that Smith would take over necessitating a shut down of the system. Neo's technomancy at the end of 2 seems to me to be an extension of his status as the One. If he can see and manipulate the code within the Matrix, then it makes sense that he can at least see the machine code in the real world.

Reloaded was a decent film which was betrayed by the Architect scene and the fact that Neo was downgraded from being a god in the machine to being a flying kung fu master. Revolutions fell apart thanks to the Trainman garbage and the infinite dancing Smiths, but the race to Zion and machine battle sequences were pretty good.
 
2012-04-12 05:30:37 PM

Evil Mackerel: JPINFV: [upload.wikimedia.org image 220x326]

Just leaving this one here...

1/10


Evil Mackerel: JPINFV: [upload.wikimedia.org image 220x326]

Just leaving this one here...

1/10


After watching the series again, I sort of agree with it being very disappointing. It's a rushed send off that provides poor closure to a lot of things brought up in the series, with the biggest surprise being that River was really Buffy the Vampire Slayer the whole time. Is Book more than a Shepard? Who cares, he's dead. Will Wash and Zooey have a child together? Nope, dead. Reavers? 30k people who are completely batshiat, mindlessly crazy thanks to an experiment gone wrong, but not so much that they can't work together or fly spaceships. Also possibly the worst government cover up, ever.
 
2012-04-12 05:32:33 PM
Johnny Mnemonic, Alien Resurrection, Lost in Space, Godzilla, Battlefield Earth, Supernova, Hollow Man, Mission to Mars, Ghosts of Mars, Planet of the Apes, AVP 2: Never saw them, never saw anything that made me interested in seeing them. They looked terrible from their trailers.

Judge Dredd: Boring, forgettable.

Species: Okay, I'll catch it on late night cable for the nudity.

Escape from LA: Not as much fun as Escape from New York.

Dr. Moreau: Weird, creepy, but off in the wrong way, as in, "This is not a good adaptation and Marlon Brando is really distracting."

Phantom Menace: Biggest movie disappointment ever. Ever.

Matrix Reloaded: I liked it at first but that impression didn't hold up.

AVP: It was okay but forgettable.

I Am Legend: I liked it up to the second half. Reading the book later made me hate the whole film, especially the ending.

The Invasion: Boring, so, so boring and pointless.
 
2012-04-12 05:35:04 PM

elvindeath: [img231.imageshack.us image 400x478]

The one reason Lost in Space does not deserve to be on that list.


Mimi Rogers provided the other two.

/For those of us who like adults.
 
2012-04-12 05:37:13 PM

SpoilerAlert: After watching the series again, I sort of agree with it being very disappointing. It's a rushed send off that provides poor closure to a lot of things brought up in the series, with the biggest surprise being that River was really Buffy the Vampire Slayer the whole time. Is Book more than a Shepard? Who cares, he's dead. Will Wash and Zooey have a child together? Nope, dead. Reavers? 30k people who are completely batshiat, mindlessly crazy thanks to an experiment gone wrong, but not so much that they can't work together or fly spaceships. Also possibly the worst government cover up, ever.


The movie was pretty much a middle finger to everyone who wanted to see the TV series revived, though I thought if they ever did revive it they should start it with Jayne waking up with a hangover telling the crew how he just had the most farked up dream ever.
 
2012-04-12 05:41:37 PM
I liked Alien Resurrection, Alien 3 was just boring.
 
2012-04-12 05:42:30 PM

bdub77: My list (in no particular order):

Star Wars: Episode 1
Star Wars: Episode 2
Star Wars: Episode 3
Starship Troopers
Battlefield Earth
Hackers
Any sequel to Jurassic Park (people were eaten there - stop going back you farking morons)
Any Hulk movies
Wild Wild West (frankly never should have been made)
Spiderman 3
Fantastic Four movies
Superman reboot (how do you fark up superman)
XMen 3 (how do you fark up Xmen?)
Waterworld (you based your movie on something completely impossible)
Indiana Jones 4 (SUCK. FEST.)
Pretty much anything made by Michael Bay.


I liked Hackers. I don't understand the hate for this movie. You just have to realize that it's science FICTION and nothing more. I thought it was entertaining.
 
2012-04-12 05:45:19 PM

turbidum: ExperianScaresCthulhu: puckrock2000: [upload.wikimedia.org image 220x301]

Missing from list.

iRobot and Hitchhiker's Guide shouldn't be on the list. I'm not a purist, so I enjoy them both for the same reasons I enjoy Starship Troopers (and Will Smith's 4th Wall breaking during the last act would have won me over if the scene with the robot and the little girl and him underwater hadn't won me over for subtle ballsiness). Treasure Planet was alright, it wasn't an affront to humanity like 'Princess of Mars' or 'Species 2'. I haven't pulled up the list......... is 'Sphere' or 'Congo' on there? both of them. I guess it's fair, since the books were also major ass disappointments, but damn there was so much potential which got flubbed up.

Is that a joke?

If not, you'll need to turn over your nerd card. I'm sure it hasn't been used too often if you're confusing Apple's marketing spelling with Asimov's literarily allusive and iconic title I, Robot.

You can apply for a new card in three months.


3 months? No way. Anyone that has ever read an Asimov book should be get to kick Will Smith in the nuts.
 
2012-04-12 05:46:05 PM

The Troof hurts: bdub77: My list (in no particular order):

Star Wars: Episode 1
Star Wars: Episode 2
Star Wars: Episode 3
Starship Troopers
Battlefield Earth
Hackers
Any sequel to Jurassic Park (people were eaten there - stop going back you farking morons)
Any Hulk movies
Wild Wild West (frankly never should have been made)
Spiderman 3
Fantastic Four movies
Superman reboot (how do you fark up superman)
XMen 3 (how do you fark up Xmen?)
Waterworld (you based your movie on something completely impossible)
Indiana Jones 4 (SUCK. FEST.)
Pretty much anything made by Michael Bay.

I liked Hackers. I don't understand the hate for this movie. You just have to realize that it's science FICTION and nothing more. I thought it was entertaining.


I agree. The Onion A/V club had a pretty good article about it earlier today, even. For people that complain that all of the 3D computer imagery is cheesy and ridiculous, I think it's a pretty good visualization of what's going on without just showing a command line on the screen.
 
2012-04-12 05:47:14 PM

MithrandirBooga:
I disagree with the premise that an AvP film could ever be well done.

The Alien franchise is about humans overcoming an extremely strong and feral alien beast.
The Predator franchise is about humans overcoming an extremely advanced and deadly alien hunter.

Similar, most definitely. But the problem is that of the three races represented in the triangle, the audiences can only understand one of them; the weakest of the three. It is literally impossible to show Alien vs Predator drama in a live action film without inserting a human element into the fray, which will almost certainly feel out of place or contrived; pretty much exactly how AvP 1+2 both turned out.

The humans have no point in the movies other than to exist and insert some dialog into what would otherwise be an entirely speechless film. There is really no way around this.


I think it could be done well, but only if the move was set around the time of Aliens, like the AvP games were. If the humans were Colonial Marines, it would make a huge difference in how the three species interacted and would create a much more interesting triangle.

Example:
The tagline for the movie was "No matter who wins, we lose."
The tagline for the game was "The three most powerful species in the universe collide."

Imagine a scene where the Predator is stalking the Marines. He's cloaked, but they have motion trackers, so they know something is after them.
"Movement, twenty meters."
"There's nothing back here, man."
BAM, that Marine just got imapled and hauled screaming into the trees while the rest of the Marines unload their pulse rifles into the jungle.

Motion trackers would be pivotal in the Marines' fight against the Predators.

Anyway, the setting alone would put it head and shoulders above the existing AvP movies.
 
2012-04-12 05:47:20 PM
DOOM!

That movie was a real let down.
 
2012-04-12 05:49:25 PM
I'm too lazy to scan this whole thread to see if anyone has already covered this, so I will just say it.

"Disappointment" means, "I thought this was going to be so much better than it actually was." There were too many movies on that list that NO ONE was expecting good things from, EVER. Those movies are:

Judge Dredd
Phantom Menace
BATTLEFIELD EARTH
Mission to Mars
Ghosts of Mars (has there EVER been a movie worth seeing about the planet Mars (and yes, even Mars Attacks, though it had its moments)
Alien vs. Predator
Alien vs. Predator 2

If you were anxiously awaiting ANY of the aforementioned movies, expecting cinematic glory, you have really low standards.
 
2012-04-12 05:56:00 PM

DammitIForgotMyLogin: Ennuipoet: DammitIForgotMyLogin: Battlefield Earth doesn't belong on that list.

I am unsure as to how to see this comment, either you are being facetious, you have never seen the movie, or you are a Scientologist. (There is a minute possibility you are John Travolta but, I am going to assume this not to be the case.)

In order for it to qualify as a 'disappointment', people would have to have expected it to be something other than a steaming pile of horsecrap before they went in to see it.


Came here to say exactly this. It's hardly a disappointment if everyone thinks it's going to suck from the get go.
 
2012-04-12 05:59:41 PM

for good or for awesome: I liked Alien Resurrection, Alien 3 was just boring.


Alien 3 was well-acted, but boring.

Alien Resurrection was exciting, but bad.

And I HAVE watched Alien Resurrection several more times than Alien 3. What can I say--I have a weak mind. :(
 
2012-04-12 06:13:28 PM

FeedTheCollapse:
not Sci-Fi, but "Drive" was also another movie that got an inexplicable amount of acclaim that was disappointing. Somewhere inside the movie, there is a germ of a good film, but it was either radically edited from its original version or it was a 40 minute filmed stretched out to 90+ minutes. Either way, it felt like Playskool's "My First Art Film" with a crappy soundtrack.


THANK YOU. My God, I thought my GF and I were the only two people who didn't unequivocally love that film. And it bothers me how others assume that if you don't like it it's because you're a Micheal Bay fan, like there's no third choice. No, it's because I like my movies where something farkING HAPPENS (unless you're making a character study, then inert plot can be OK). Ryan Gosling staring endlessly at Carey Mulligan didn't make him come off as "deep", it made him come off as a dullard. Albert Brooks matter-of-factly delivering moderately OK lines isn't "genius" or "being robbed of an Oscar nomination", it's what actors _do_. It's like everyone involved set out to make a neo-noir based on having a classic noir _described_ to them rather than having watched one. I'm also moderately convinced that the true badass moments (the bullet to the head with the hammer probably being the best of them) blinded people to how mediocre the rest of the film was.
I will also say that putting Christina Hendricks in a movie and giving her less than a dozen lines just so you can turn her head into mush is a crime against nature.
And that music. That horrible, horrible music.
 
2012-04-12 06:16:51 PM

wraith95: groppet: Carth: DamnYankees: I don't think its fair to I Am Legend to put it on that list. It's easily the best of those 20 movies. There's a difference between a movie being a "disappointment" and just not being as good as it could have been. I was still satisfied with it.

Had they not called it "I Am Legend" it would have been a good sci fi movie. Instead they bastardized the source material and took away all meaning from the title which ruined it for anyone going in expecting to see the story made into a film.

Didnt they change stuff in the movie when the test audience hated the fact that the whole time Wil Smith was the bad guy technically.

yes, and the alternate ending is much better, at least to me. The theatrical ending just ignores all the evidence that the infected were still intelligent and adds that horrid bit of christian pandering. The alternate does not, and leaves open the possibility that the woman was simply slightly crazy. For those who haven't seen it (new window)


They're still people, even if they're 'changed'. People just want to hate on Will, though. Folks would have still biatched if they kept the original ending in. He's a great actor. Very powerful movie. Excellent music... I love how understated it was instead of bombastic 'FEEL HAPPY NOW!' shiat..
 
2012-04-12 06:20:23 PM

Random Guy: DOOM!

That movie was a real let down.


"Doom!" = the very thought that ran through my mind after seeing the trailer
 
2012-04-12 06:20:43 PM

dittybopper: FeedTheCollapse: my thing is that though Alien 3 is a mess, it at least somewhat makes sense even if it's completely unnecessary.

Actually, I think that Alien3 is a pretty darn good capstone on a trilogy, and they should have left Ripley dead and buried.

Alien3 gets a bad rap, probably because both Newt and Hicks get killed before it even starts, and even Ripley ends up dying. It was more a return to the style of the first film than of the second, and setting it on a prison colony was a plausible enough reason to not have the weapons or personnel capable of dealing with a single Xenomorph. It wasn't an action film like the second one. More suspense, like the first.

It's not a *PERFECT* film, by any means, and it's not as good as Aliens, but it's a decent enough film in it's own right, and like I said, a perfect capstone to a trilogy.


Frankly, given Alien3's tortured production history, it's amazing that the film turned out as good as it did. The main problem, as David Giler pointed out, is that the move's not scary, and that it failed to meet audience expectations about where the story was going, particularly regarding Hicks/Newt. It's also obviously mostly a rehash of the first film. I think they should have mostly kept Vincent Ward's original idea of a monastery in space, and simply jettisoned the wooden planet and some of his wilder ideas. As it is, the film suffers from not having more developed and sympathetic characters. It's quite hard to become emotionally involved when your "protagonists" are a bunch of barely distinguishable rapists and murderers.

All that being said, I'm still impressed with a lot of Alien3. Sigourney's great in it, as are Charles Dutton and Charles Dance. Visually it's a stunning film, with a great Elliot Goldenthal score to boot. It's also the only one of the Alien sequels that Giger worked on. Tonally, it's consistent with the first two films as opposed to Alien Resurrection, which I felt was mired by a kind of jokey black comedy and comic book swagger to the characters. Finally, I'll agree that you have to see the trilogy as "Ripley's story" to like Alien3, as it's much more concerned with her character and the conclusion of her story than with the Alien itself. As such, the film's doesn't devolve into self-parody and excess the way so many later sequels do.
 
2012-04-12 06:29:18 PM

under a mountain: Too old?


Shut your whore mouth! That movie made a man of me.
 
2012-04-12 07:00:08 PM
Hey big shocker- Joss Whedon's name is on one of the movies. Even Kevin Costner would shake his head at Whedon's list of terribly written projects that don't live up to a tenth of the hype that surrounds them and say "Damn! Who the hell did he blow?"
 
2012-04-12 07:13:07 PM

Mugato: There was nothing disappointing about Species NSFW.

1. She's wearing pannies
2. It was established in universe she was going to fk every dude except the black dude because he was imperfect: he carried sickle cell trait

No amount of topless nudity can make up for point 2.
Going bottomless would have inched a ways to making up for it, no, it would not have.
 
2012-04-12 07:16:31 PM

FeedTheCollapse: Fascination with Alien Resurrection seems to come solely for Whedon Fanboys (see also: David Lynch's Dune. I like David Lynch, I like Dune, but the movie was a mess outside of a few Lynchian ideas.). Maybe taken on its own from someone who's never seen the previous 3 (or first 2) movies, it's decent. But taken as part of a franchise and its pretty terrible.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

(I don't know anything about Whedon's involvenment)(I just know, this thread is the first time I've ever seen people defend Aliens4.)
 
2012-04-12 07:22:24 PM

Orgasmatron138: I usually distinguish sci-fi from comic book movies. Judge Dredd was a comic book movie. An awful one, too.

I saw Judge Dredd again last year, and I loved it more last year than when I first saw it. A lot of the stuff in it is now prescient.

- It seemed like it had the same problem that the Highlander sequels had (why were none of those on the list?) - you had to regress the powers of the hero to provide any drama for the sequels.
There are no Highlander sequels. Ask Ed Grubermann.
 
2012-04-12 07:27:53 PM

timujin: I think I might be one of five people on the planet that actually liked Fincher's Alien III.


No. Six. (I didn't like the cloning, and thought that was beyond retarded, but I liked the penal colony of old men who were threats in their day. And I always like Roc.)
 
2012-04-12 07:32:42 PM
The worst part about "Lost in Space" is it could be such an amazing vehicle for great stories. Imagine a modern day rendition with decent special effects and writing of the caliber of BSG.
 
2012-04-12 07:41:41 PM
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2012-04-12 07:42:54 PM

vygramul: DamnYankees: I don't think its fair to I Am Legend to put it on that list. It's easily the best of those 20 movies. There's a difference between a movie being a "disappointment" and just not being as good as it could have been. I was still satisfied with it.

I thought it was only a little disappointing, but solid in a lot of ways.


I loved it. Of course, I was in high school and my gf and I were the only ones in the theater. Good thing it wasn't compelling or interesting at all.
 
2012-04-12 07:46:55 PM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Mugato: There was nothing disappointing about Species NSFW.
1. She's wearing pannies
2. It was established in universe she was going to fk every dude except the black dude because he was imperfect: he carried sickle cell trait

No amount of topless nudity can make up for point 2.
Going bottomless would have inched a ways to making up for it, no, it would not have.


Not that I don't suspect it's a 1990's casting cliche, but at least he wasn't imperfect due to being black. Sickle cell trait is an actual disease.
 
2012-04-12 07:47:35 PM

FeedTheCollapse: verbaltoxin: Terminator: Salvation. What a giant, nonsensical pile of horse crap.



I didn't think this was too bad, but it definitely felt like 2 completely different scripts colliding into one movie.


That's because it was.
 
2012-04-12 07:51:28 PM

FourBlackBars: [upload.wikimedia.org image 200x297]


*Sigh* Quite unfortunate for a nearly flawless page-to-screen adaptation. How bitterly ironic.
 
2012-04-12 08:08:30 PM

Subdue their bellies: The film version of Aeon Flux was disappointing. Loved the animated shorts on liquid television, but the movie just fell flat.


Seriously. That had to be the single most disappointing sci-fi film I've ever seen. Not the worst necessarily, but it had nothing of the source material to make it good.
 
2012-04-12 08:10:33 PM
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The cinematic cutscenes in "Dawn of War" looked better animated and that was 8 years older.
 
2012-04-12 08:12:24 PM

Tsar_Bomba1: FeedTheCollapse: verbaltoxin: Terminator: Salvation. What a giant, nonsensical pile of horse crap.



I didn't think this was too bad, but it definitely felt like 2 completely different scripts colliding into one movie.


That's because it was.


yeah, it was especially noticeable in the end when John temporarily died.
 
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