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2012-04-12 02:43:04 PM
There was nothing disappointing about Species NSFW

And Alien 3 was pointless. Over stylized version of the first film with really bad stop motion FX.
 
2012-04-12 02:45:22 PM

dittybopper: Apos: I liked I Am Legend and Alien vs Predator(the camp factor of the latter being part of its charm). There. I said it.

I've watched both AvP films, and I think the second is better than the first, but even the first is OK. Nothing to write home about, but like you said, kind of campy fun.

Hopefully, Prometheus will do for the Alien franchise what Predators did for the Predator franchise, and we can get some kind of new and improved AvP film in the future.


Hear,hear.
 
2012-04-12 02:45:51 PM

dittybopper: Hopefully, Prometheus will do for the Alien franchise what Predators did for the Predator franchise, and we can get some kind of new and improved AvP film in the future.



There you go again.

I'll keep my "franchises" to fast food, thanks.

You got Predator in my Alien! (sing along) Two great tastes that taste like crap together!

/opinions, I has them
 
2012-04-12 02:46:00 PM

under a mountain: Too old?

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It needed to be an anime. I don't know why movies/writers insist on making heroes rock stars though. that's the same crap that screwed up Lestat.
 
2012-04-12 02:47:46 PM

soopey: Bathia_Mapes: soopey: WHAR DUNE!?

If you're referring to the David Lynch version, that was released over 20 years ago.

I was thinking of the channel formerly known as Sci-Fi garbage.


That's was a TV miniseries, not a theatrical release.
 
2012-04-12 02:49:26 PM

Bathia_Mapes: soopey: Bathia_Mapes: soopey: WHAR DUNE!?

If you're referring to the David Lynch version, that was released over 20 years ago.

I was thinking of the channel formerly known as Sci-Fi garbage.

That was a good TV miniseries, not a theatrical release.


That needs to be stated.
 
2012-04-12 02:49:53 PM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: That coward David Lopan: I think Matrix: Revolutions was a bigger disappointment than Reloaded. When I first saw it, I thought, "Okay, this was a little weak, but it could be building up to a huge 3 act." Then they took all that potential and flushed it down the drain.

/Also, I am Legend was decent. Shouldn't be on that list. But, MIB 2 should be.

I agree with all of this. The fanboys wuved the violence of Revolutions, though, so...... And yet, if they didn't have the Matrix name on top, they'd still be solid movies. They just didn't work after the ending of the original Matrix.

I am Legend is always watchable, I even forgive the lame CGIness of the darkseekers. That movie would have been much better if we NEVER saw the darkseekers, except like a body part here or there. The interplay between Will and Samantha saved that movie, and raised it above a whole bunch of shiat.

MiB2 was mailed in. Still, it's not the worst of the worst.


You get a "smart" click.
 
2012-04-12 02:51:39 PM

Deadwing: Quasar: I kinda like Johnny Mnemonic and even Judge Dredd despite their many, many flaws. Ron Perlman made Alien Res watchable.

Holy gods, Alien vs. Predator is an awful, awful thing. I'd rather take a chestburster through the ass than watch another one.

Wouldn't that by definition be an assburster?


I mean like, somebody is hugging my ass, then a chestburster pops out of them and enters aforementioned posterior.
 
2012-04-12 02:54:31 PM
I think from Battlefield: Earth nothing more than the visuals would be promising, but why exactly AVP 2 was disappointing? I cant believe there was people aside from the studios expecting something from this. Species and the sequels delivered all the boobs we wanted, but avp 2?
 
2012-04-12 02:56:57 PM
Sucker Punch,Waterworld and Spider-Man 3 are missing from an already decent compilation of cinematic misfires.
 
2012-04-12 02:58:09 PM
Johnny Mnemonic (1995)

It was cool until Ice T and dolphin.
 
2012-04-12 02:58:46 PM

elvindeath: [img231.imageshack.us image 400x478]

The one reason Lost in Space does not deserve to be on that list.


www.atalude.net
 
2012-04-12 03:07:46 PM
I actually genuinely liked Species. I think the cast was solid, Michael Madson was a badass and got to bang the China Beach chick, The guy who wanted the idol in Raiders got to bang 20 year old naked Natashia Henstridge. It was a decent thriller with questionable CGI but hey, it was 1995. And Ben Kingsley, I'll say it. Overrated.

And The Matrix Reloaded wasn't disappointing. If they had resolved it with any sort of satisfactions, it would have been fine. Revolutions was disappointing.
 
2012-04-12 03:12:16 PM
The best actor in I Am Legend was the dog.

/Had to go see it to listen to Mike Patton
 
2012-04-12 03:14:19 PM

dittybopper: FeedTheCollapse: my thing is that though Alien 3 is a mess, it at least somewhat makes sense even if it's completely unnecessary.

Actually, I think that Alien3 is a pretty darn good capstone on a trilogy, and they should have left Ripley dead and buried.

Alien3 gets a bad rap, probably because both Newt and Hicks get killed before it even starts, and even Ripley ends up dying. It was more a return to the style of the first film than of the second, and setting it on a prison colony was a plausible enough reason to not have the weapons or personnel capable of dealing with a single Xenomorph. It wasn't an action film like the second one. More suspense, like the first.

It's not a *PERFECT* film, by any means, and it's not as good as Aliens, but it's a decent enough film in it's own right, and like I said, a perfect capstone to a trilogy.




I think Alien 3 gets a bad rap because it obviously went through a lot of rewrites/reshooting and it felt like an extended epilogue to Aliens that basically just said "fark you!" to the previous film. I don't really have a problem with Ripley's death so much as the rest of the film not really being pulled off very well so it kind of feels like her death is one final slap in the face. Maybe if the film hadn't picked up almost immediately after the first film and been its own separate entity of sorts, it probably would've been a bit better.

Alien 3 isn't bad, but it is significantly worse than the 2 previous films.

Fascination with Alien Resurrection seems to come solely for Whedon Fanboys (see also: David Lynch's Dune. I like David Lynch, I like Dune, but the movie was a mess outside of a few Lynchian ideas.). Maybe taken on its own from someone who's never seen the previous 3 (or first 2) movies, it's decent. But taken as part of a franchise and its pretty terrible.
 
2012-04-12 03:20:12 PM

Treygreen13: I liked The Hitchhiker's Guide. But it's such a beloved book that I can see how somebody could consider it a "disappointment". The film doesn't allow for all the hilariously random thought processes of the characters to be imparted upon the viewer.


It also launched the career of Martin Freeman and had a generally great cast all around.

Maybe if I rewatched it now I would hate it, but at the time I thought it wasn't a bad attempt at all.
 
2012-04-12 03:23:20 PM
In striving for modernity, with a cooler looking Robot, a dysfunctional rather than 'gee-whiz' all-American family, and a convoluted plot involving space travel, Lost In Space the movie mislaid the simple charm that made the television show so much fun.

SPACE TRAVEL, in a movie called Lost in Space? Preposterous!

/It still sucked, but so does the writer of TFA.
 
2012-04-12 03:25:08 PM
OK, it's been a while since I saw it... but I remember Hollow Man being good.
 
2012-04-12 03:27:43 PM

dittybopper: One Bad Apple: No "Watchmen" ?


Also I wouldn't call "Lost in Space" a disappointment. It sucked exactly as expected.


dittybopper: . The science is better.


Godzilla was a male but still lays eggs ? You fail science forever.

1. The *ASSUMPTION* was that he was a male, but it wasn't necessarily so. There is no reason the creature couldn't have been female from the very beginning. They used male pronouns when talking about "him", but there is no explanation that he's a male that's laying eggs, other than Dr. Tatopoulos saying "He's a she!".

2. Sequential Hermaphroditism: Some animals can change from male to female, or vice versa, depending on environmental pressures.

3. Parthenogenesis: Some female lizards can produce offspring asexually, in the absence of a suitable male.

So yeah, there is a plausible explanation for a lizard to produce offspring asexually, and even if Godzilla was *INITIALLY* a male, there is a plausible explanation for "him" turning female.

It's even *EXPLAINED* in the movie, albeit in simple terms.

Now, I realize they don't teach that kind of stuff in grade school science classes, but I'm pretty sure it's covered in high school biology, and certainly they do in college level biology courses.




/adjusts glasses

Nature finds a way.

www.solarnavigator.net
 
2012-04-12 03:28:39 PM

Seth'n'Spectrum: Treygreen13: I liked The Hitchhiker's Guide. But it's such a beloved book that I can see how somebody could consider it a "disappointment". The film doesn't allow for all the hilariously random thought processes of the characters to be imparted upon the viewer.

It also launched the career of Martin Freeman and had a generally great cast all around.

Maybe if I rewatched it now I would hate it, but at the time I thought it wasn't a bad attempt at all.


I think The Office launched Martin's career in the visual medium. His US career was probably begun with Love, Actually but I agree he really became more well known with The Hitchhiker's Guide.

BTW, loved his cameo in Shaun of the Dead when his girlfriend from The Office was a main character and they sort of nodded at each other when the two groups crossed paths.
 
2012-04-12 03:29:00 PM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: puckrock2000: [upload.wikimedia.org image 220x301]

Missing from list.

iRobot and Hitchhiker's Guide shouldn't be on the list. I'm not a purist, so I enjoy them both for the same reasons I enjoy Starship Troopers (and Will Smith's 4th Wall breaking during the last act would have won me over if the scene with the robot and the little girl and him underwater hadn't won me over for subtle ballsiness). Treasure Planet was alright, it wasn't an affront to humanity like 'Princess of Mars' or 'Species 2'. I haven't pulled up the list......... is 'Sphere' or 'Congo' on there? both of them. I guess it's fair, since the books were also major ass disappointments, but damn there was so much potential which got flubbed up.


Is that a joke?

If not, you'll need to turn over your nerd card. I'm sure it hasn't been used too often if you're confusing Apple's marketing spelling with Asimov's literarily allusive and iconic title I, Robot.

You can apply for a new card in three months.
 
2012-04-12 03:30:29 PM
I don't know how the managed to narrow down the list so far. Many worth contenders should be listed. I will put forward the horrible abomination that was terminator salvation. It was total crap. Plot holes the size of texas, inconsistent internal logic, an ending that was totally and completely impossible. No you cannot have a heart replacement surgery in a non sterile environment like an open desert. What the hell?

There is only so far I am willing to suspend disbelief...
 
2012-04-12 03:36:32 PM
No A.I.?
 
2012-04-12 03:39:41 PM

Cagey B: No A.I.?


That movie wouldn't have been so bad if it ended about 15 minutes sooner. I think the epilogue bit really killed it.
 
GOB
2012-04-12 03:42:09 PM
I personally cannot wait until Hollywood farks up Forever War and Revelation Space.
 
2012-04-12 03:44:57 PM

GOB: I personally cannot wait until Hollywood farks up Forever War and Revelation Space.


Don't forget the inevitable butchering of World War Z, in which Brad Pitt discovers that the zombies are just misunderstood and if only the government had not tested their corporate weaponry on the inner city youth, none of this would have happened. Also he's gay. Or something.
 
2012-04-12 03:50:03 PM
Inasmuch as it introduced aliens from the Planet Zeist, I think Highlander II has to go at the VERY top of this list and needs its jersey retired as the all-time leader and obvious top pick for any and all lists of "disappointing" movies
 
2012-04-12 03:53:34 PM
I would like to add The Fountain to this list. It wasn't terrible, but I was expecting greatness and was disappointed.
 
2012-04-12 03:55:22 PM

Apos: Bathia_Mapes: soopey: Bathia_Mapes: soopey: WHAR DUNE!?

If you're referring to the David Lynch version, that was released over 20 years ago.

I was thinking of the channel formerly known as Sci-Fi garbage.

That was a good TV miniseries, not a theatrical release.

That needs to be stated.


Agreed. The horrible weirding modules were eliminated as was the idea of making the Baron ludicrously grotesque. They kept the BS about Paul being able to summon water, and the acting was typical SyFy quality, but at least the Dune miniseries certainly felt closer to the books.
 
2012-04-12 03:58:12 PM

Magorn: Inasmuch as it introduced aliens from the Planet Zeist, I think Highlander II has to go at the VERY top of this list and needs its jersey retired as the all-time leader and obvious top pick for any and all lists of "disappointing" movies


I'm sorry, but I have no idea what you're babbling on about. Did you forget your meds today?
 
2012-04-12 04:00:43 PM

schpanky: I would like to add The Fountain to this list. It wasn't terrible, but I was expecting greatness and was disappointed.


See, I loved that movie. It could have been more, but I wasn't disappointed.

Now, I was intitally disappointed with Pandorum. But a recent rewatch of it made me like it a whole lot more.
 
2012-04-12 04:02:06 PM

Stile4aly: Apos: Bathia_Mapes: soopey: Bathia_Mapes: soopey: WHAR DUNE!?

If you're referring to the David Lynch version, that was released over 20 years ago.

I was thinking of the channel formerly known as Sci-Fi garbage.

That was a good TV miniseries, not a theatrical release.

That needs to be stated.

Agreed. The horrible weirding modules were eliminated as was the idea of making the Baron ludicrously grotesque. They kept the BS about Paul being able to summon water, and the acting was typical SyFy quality, but at least the Dune miniseries certainly felt closer to the books.


I liked the look and the cast (except Sting and I prefer Kyle Machlachlan even though he looks completely wrong for the part) of Lynch's version. If you could somehow combine those with the plot of the miniseries you'd have a pretty solid adaptation (of course you're still losing a lot of the political/religious/ecological meat of the books but that would just bog the thing down)
 
2012-04-12 04:03:06 PM

GOB: I personally cannot wait until Hollywood farks up Forever War and Revelation Space.


*ears twitch with interest*

A Revelation Space movie, you say?
 
2012-04-12 04:08:26 PM
I'm still waiting for a new Thundercats movie.

New series is awesome, but not quite enough.
 
2012-04-12 04:08:48 PM
I usually distinguish sci-fi from comic book movies. Judge Dredd was a comic book movie. An awful one, too.

The Matrix sequels were very poorly written. Frankly, given the way the first one ended, I didn't even think you needed sequels.

It seemed like it had the same problem that the Highlander sequels had (why were none of those on the list?) - you had to regress the powers of the hero to provide any drama for the sequels.
 
2012-04-12 04:09:43 PM

Sandor at the Zoo: GOB: I personally cannot wait until Hollywood farks up Forever War and Revelation Space.

*ears twitch with interest*

A Revelation Space movie, you say?


*ears twitch with interest*

A Forever War movie, you say?

*Googles*

By Ridley Scott? Interesting...
 
2012-04-12 04:10:54 PM

Agarista: I'm still waiting for a new Thundercats movie.

New series is awesome, but not quite enough.


I don't think the new episodes since it came back from hiatus have been as great as the first half of the season. Stretch Armstrong Panthro?
 
2012-04-12 04:15:52 PM

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: FTFA, re: Escape from LA -- Plissken's sent in to retrieve a flight recorder and the president's daughter (a mission that rhymes, if nothing else)

.....whut?


It rhymes with the plot of Escape From NY, the original in the series, in that it was almost an identical movie, except this time it was in LA instead of NY.
 
2012-04-12 04:17:28 PM
See, I disagree. The Matrix Revelations was one of the better fantasy movies that I've ever seen, his sacrifice to the Deus Ex Machina at the end to break the cycle and foster peace between man and machine was way better than the red or green endings.
 
2012-04-12 04:18:02 PM
Let's go through these:

Johnny Mnemonic: I think I watched it once. Totally uninteresting.
Judge Dredd: Not being a fan of the comic, I actually sort of liked this movie. It wasn't great (or even good), but I nearly liked it. Stallone hammed it up in Stallone-fashion, but I didn't hate it.
Species: It was OK.
Escape From LA: As much as I liked Escape from New York, I never bothered watching this one.
The Island Of Dr Moreau: I had no idea that this movie was remade. I like the 1977 version with Michael York. Didn't see it.
Alien Resurrection: Didn't see it. Or maybe I did - I don't remember.
Lost In Space: Horrible. It had promise. Good cast, except for Matt fuggin' Leblanc, but a truly terrible screenplay. The original episode with the carrot-man was better.
Godzilla (1998): It was OK. I don't want to watch it again, but it probably doesn't belong on this list.
Star Wars: The Phantom Menace: Hmmm. Without Jar-Jar, midichlorians, and crappy dialog, it could have been really good. Darth Maul was awesome, as was Qui Gon Jinn and Obi Wan. I feel that my love for the Star Wars universe is clouding my judgement on this one.
Battlefield Earth: Hahahaha! Holy crap was this a rotten movie! I loved the book, but I laughed my ass off at this abortion. (Side note: I like you, John Travolta. I like you a lot, even though you're in a woo-woo cult. It's awesome that you're a jet pilot, and I even tried to grow Vinnie Barbarino hair when I was 8 years old. You rock. So from my heart, PLEASE leave that cult. It saddens me that you're a member of such an organization.)
Supernova: I think I rented it and fell asleep.
Hollow Man: Yeah. It was pretty bad.
Mission To Mars: FTFA: Seasoned actors such as Don Cheadle, Gary Sinise and Tim Robbins were similarly wasted, and saddled with characters who spoke in cliches. Yeah. That.
Ghosts Of Mars: Horrible.
Planet Of The Apes: I actually like it and don't understand why it's so universally hated. No, it wasn't as good as the original, and yes, the ending was terrible, but it was otherwise pretty good. It could have used some additional script work, but I enjoyed it and will watch it again.
The Matrix Reloaded: Didn't see it.
Alien Vs Predator: This movie is what it is. I didn't hate it, and the premise was OK. It's just a horror/sci-fi movie and didn't pretend to be anything other.
Alien Vs Predator: Requiem: Didn't see it.
I Am Legend: I liked it. The ending was crap, but the rest of the movie was OK. It was better than Omega Man. Plus I like Will Smith.
The Invasion: Didn't see it. Or saw it and forgot. I don't know for sure.
 
2012-04-12 04:19:53 PM
Superman Returns would've been a far better film if they hadn't deleted stuff like this Link (new window)
 
2012-04-12 04:23:38 PM

dittybopper: Apos: I liked I Am Legend and Alien vs Predator(the camp factor of the latter being part of its charm). There. I said it.

I've watched both AvP films, and I think the second is better than the first, but even the first is OK. Nothing to write home about, but like you said, kind of campy fun.

Hopefully, Prometheus will do for the Alien franchise what Predators did for the Predator franchise, and we can get some kind of new and improved AvP film in the future.




I disagree with the premise that an AvP film could ever be well done.

The Alien franchise is about humans overcoming an extremely strong and feral alien beast.
The Predator franchise is about humans overcoming an extremely advanced and deadly alien hunter.

Similar, most definitely. But the problem is that of the three races represented in the triangle, the audiences can only understand one of them; the weakest of the three. It is literally impossible to show Alien vs Predator drama in a live action film without inserting a human element into the fray, which will almost certainly feel out of place or contrived; pretty much exactly how AvP 1+2 both turned out.

The humans have no point in the movies other than to exist and insert some dialog into what would otherwise be an entirely speechless film. There is really no way around this.
 
2012-04-12 04:24:01 PM

Bathia_Mapes: Why in the hell isn't the horrible Keanu Reeves version of "Day the Earth Stood Still" on the list? Or Spielberg's "War of the Worlds"?


Good point.
 
2012-04-12 04:25:19 PM
I think I might be one of five people on the planet that actually liked Fincher's Alien III.
 
2012-04-12 04:27:31 PM

Treygreen13: puckrock2000: Missing from list.

I liked The Hitchhiker's Guide. But it's such a beloved book that I can see how somebody could consider it a "disappointment". The film doesn't allow for all the hilariously random thought processes of the characters to be imparted upon the viewer.

For example, the part at the beginning where he's blocking the bulldozer. Adams goes off on this hilarious inspection of the foreman and how he's related to Genghis Khan and sometimes hears the sounds of horses. And it's so strange and not important to the plot but at the same time it makes the novel that much more interesting.


Yeah, that was my big disappointment with the movie. I could deal with the change of the plot, but Adams wrote so many little toss away jokes which the movie absolutely failed to capture, for no easily discernible reason.

Plus they totally failed to fully explain the purpose of the towel.
 
2012-04-12 04:32:34 PM
upload.wikimedia.org

Just leaving this one here...
 
2012-04-12 04:32:46 PM
I liked Ghost of Mars and Judge Dredd.
 
2012-04-12 04:33:37 PM
No A.I. Artificial Intelligence on the list? That movie was a huge disappointment given it was supposed to be a concept developed by Stanley Kubrick and realized by Steven Spielberg.
 
2012-04-12 04:35:42 PM
Considering it was disappointing movies, not crappy movies, I submit:

www.wildaboutmovies.com

The first act was such a great scifi film and character study, then it just devolved into a forgettable monster movie. With a lame monster.
 
2012-04-12 04:37:13 PM
thank god there is only one Highlander movie.
 
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