ihatedumbpeople: Guess they caved to public pressure...wasn't this supposed to come in 72 hours?

WITHIN 72 hours, self-loathing one.

All right now.. for all of you Boppers out there in the big city, for you street people with an ear for the action, Ive been asked to play a request for that cat out there who shot down Trayvon........here's Martha Reeves and the Vandellas... "Nowhere to Run"

fracas: JohnBigBootay: MythDragon: Chambered in .32. I carry this one if I am lightly dressed with sweatpants

You carry a gun in sweatpants?

9 inches of blue steel.

It's blue? Stop choking it.

Katolu: Begun, the race wars have.

Good. I've been wanting to shoot a Tony Stewart fan for years.

And now - a sane rational discussion. (May God have mercy on us.)

Oh, Zimmerman, where you gonna run to? Oh Zimmerman, where you gonna run to?

vegasj: Karma Curmudgeon: You sound oppressed.

I am, I tested the highest in my class for a government job but since we have AA they picked the guy who tested below me only because he was black... is that better?

You're about to meet an angry man. Mr. William Connor, who carries on his shoulder a chip the size of the national debt. This is a sour man, a lonely man, who's tired of waiting for the breaks that come to others, but never to him. Mr. William Connor, whose own blind hatred is about to catapult him into the darkest corner of the Twilight Zone.

Hypothetical Imperative: I swear I only come into these threads to watch people throw stuff at 9beers and Thunderpipes.


9beers:
I bet you also enjoy going to the zoo to watch monkey fling poop. That's pretty much the impression I get from the angry mob.

So you admit you're a monkey who flings poop? Glad that's finally out in the the open.

I still contend anyone who chooses Tropical Skittles over regular Skittles deserves to be shot to death

Muwhahaha!

This thing is just getting crazier and crazier.



/What if it's just a Republican plot to distract us from Romney?
//Nah.

GAT_00: WhoIsWillo: Oh, Zimmerman, where you gonna run to? Oh Zimmerman, where you gonna run to?

This would work better if he hadn't already run the fark away.

So he ran to Hannity / he was waiting / He ran to Hannity / He was waiting / Oh, on that day.

Stormfront is gonna be SO MAD if Zimmerman is found guilty.

tirob: And perhaps other evidence that will come to light. Your question is premature.

You clearly do not understand. 9beers has seen every piece of evidence . He's investigated every aspect of the shooting. He's personally interviewed every witness. He's a skilled lawyer with many years of court room experience. He's completely unbiased and has come to the conclusion that anyone that does not take Zimmerman's story at face value is an idiot, a troll or looking for votes.

omeganuepsilon: You were equivocating out of ignorance, and you do so again even after I explained how the word can be used in multiple ways, ergo you are doing it with intent.

omeganuepsilon: farking idiots!

omeganuepsilon: You're on Time-out, go sit by Mrtraveler01, or else it's the dunce hat and standing in the corner AND I call your parents.

omeganuepsilon: "OMG, someone call the mental ward, I found a mean person who can identify my fallacies!" Pfft, whatever.

omeganuepsilon: Some retards just really don't get that, especially the Fark Pedant Brigade.

omeganuepsilon: Excuse me for trying to use some civility on the internet

Why is it every supporter of Zimmerman is a hypocritical douchebag?

Please, please put me on ignore you little sniveling prick.

Silly Jesus: NightOwl2255: Phinn: Punching someone and bashing his head on the pavement for asking what you're doing is adult action.

Your obsession with women's jewelery aside, if Martin was a dope smoking, jewelery stealing low-life, it in no way changes this case. In no way. (bold, just for you) And you know this, man!

Sure it does. The media and the prosecution / his family / the mobs have portrayed Martin like this...

[lezgetreal.com image 279x250]

But if it turns out that he was actually more like this...

[moonbattery.com image 500x375]

Then that will impact how the jury perceives the case. Right now the narrative is "unarmed, innocent, infant, never harmed a fly, etc." and therefore there was no reason for Zimmerman to be anywhere near him or think he was suspicious and he couldn't have possibly posed a physical threat to Zimmerman. If it turns out he was actually a thug with multiple suspensions and crimes under his belt, then Zimmerman becomes less of a Hitler figure.

These were the pics that I thought they would run when it first happened. (I know one is a girl but it completely captures the mood)

It was the one armed man...who now drums for Def Lepard.

ravenlore: yeah...i'm not seeing a band-aid on his nose. I mean, i know we can't expect HD quality, but i'm also not seeing blood, bruising or obvious facial damage.

When were these photos taken relative to the shooting? within an hour? two hours? two days?

I buddy of mine broke my nose with a baseball bat once. While it did bleed for a while, there was no dislocation, and only a little swelling. I would have shot him, but he's whiter than I am.

Dougie AXP: NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: Dougie AXP: I am definitely not a lawyer, but from talking to some lawyer friends and seeing it depicted time after time after time on TV and in movies, it's been the prosecution.

It doesn't mean the defense can't ask, but I'm used to the prosecution always doing it.

The prosecution, to my understanding (IANAL) has to actually file on the lesser included charges. That was part of the screw up in the Anthony case, the jury couldn't find her guilty of a lesser charge because they weren't given a lesser charge on which to find her guilty.

I agree. Like I said, I believe, the prosecution has to submit an amendment of the charges before they rest their case. If they do, the judge can allow or disallow it. If he does, he can then instruct the jury to deliberate on the lesser offenses.

basically, we're in violent agreement with each other.

Everyone forgive me if this has been covered -- 1400 posts?-- but here's where in my opinion (criminologist, not lawyer), 2nd degree murder is the BEST possible outcome for both the prosecutor and Zimmerman. It goes like this:

1. Prosecutor charges Zimmerman with murder. There is much rejoicing amongst the angry mob with pitchforks.
2. Zimmerman goes to trial (yes, he will also probably be held in jail pending trial, but he'll almost certainly be in protective custody, and considering the fact that he couldn't show his face in public without being killed, why not make the state pay to keep him hidden rather than use his own resources?)
3. Defense goes balls-to-the-wall with a "self-defense" argument. Considering the fact that they already apparently have some witnesses who will testify that Martin was thrashing him, this is likely to get some significant traction.
4. Defense then vigorously resists any prosecution attempt to have "included offense" instructions given to the jury. Basically making the argument that Zimmerman was NOT negligent nor reckless, but intentionally, legally, shot Martin (thus should not be convicted of manslaughter). If they're successful in this effort, the jury will have to choose between sending Zimmerman away for life, or believing that he might possibly have been in fear of his life and acting legally under Florida law.
5. Jury acquits.
6. Zimmerman immediately commences legal action against Al Sharpton (and NBC, for allowing Sharpton to continue broadcasting what was will be called a vendetta against an innocent man). Zimmerman gets wealthy, moves somewhere, changes name, lives happily ever after.

Oh, and I forgot: 7. Rioting occurs. At least one legally justified homicide will result (and probably several legally unjustified ones). This will be blamed on the anonymous jury, so nobody suffers except the maimed and dead. The system continues without change. Status quo ante.

Katolu: Begun, the race wars have.

won't someone PLEASE think of the younglings???

Anyone watching the Sharpton speech? The Negro Community is frowning on some shenenigans...

Free George Zimmerman?
No thanks, I'm trying to cut down.

HighlanderRPI: I've tried to forget. When can we circumcise the state from the rest of the country?



Believe me, its not for lack of trying. People been trying for ages.

HighlanderRPI: Please pray for the prosecutors! I can't believe they said that live.



/remember the Casey Anthony trial?

Carth: conference has started

OK ZIMMERMAN IS COMING OUT

Mike Chewbacca: ivan: Mike Chewbacca: If anything, these threads are good for adding to my troll ignore list.

Also, for highlighting some more good guys in green3.

Of course, if I'm one of the trolls, you won't see my compliment.

Nah, I only ignore the obvious and obnoxious trolls. I've even left skinnyhead off there because I think he's funny and most likely a satirist. But 9beers and the other guys I mentioned in this thread are obnoxious and provocative, and not in a good way.

So basically, any funny people I don't block, because I find them funny, even if they are trolling. I didn't see you trolling so much as being super sarcastic.

It's not possible to be serious in a troll-infested thread like this without getting stomped on. I'd rather be stomped on for a bad joke than for a sincere appeal to reason and humanity.

But, for the record, and in answer to all the Zimmerman apologists: the point here is not that Zimmerman is a racist -- I don't think he is -- or that he crossed some line -- I think he did -- but that police took his word for what transpired and released him without an investigation. It may have been by the book, in which case the book needs to have the book thrown at it.

This is a tragedy. Zimmerman's life is pretty much destroyed either way. A young man is dead, and is family's hearts are forever broken. "Race relations" (I hate that term) have been dealt a blow. Farker has turned against Farker (well, ok, that's a pre-existing condition).

It was right to call for an investigation. It was right to bring charges. It's right, if naive, to expect that justice will be done.

But here is what's wrong: to vilify Martin in order to make Zimmerman look more innocent is deeply, disgustingly vile. .

Don't worry, guys -- your precious guns won't be outlawed over this. You can relax.

I'm curious what sort of "government job" hires on basis of "highest test in the class" but couldn't because of the black guy due to "AA" anyway.

That would be a fun tale to hear.

TravisBickle62: Mrtraveler01: TravisBickle62: His grandfather was the Governor of the state twice and fought against desegregation.

Oh my!...that's awkward.

It gets worse, he is related to George Wallace on his father's side, and several family members violently opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964. His great-uncle was Vice-President of the United States.

During the FDR administration, his Great-Grandfather's family on his father's side changed their name from Hitler to Zimmerman for obvious reasons.

fracas: JohnBigBootay: MythDragon: Chambered in .32. I carry this one if I am lightly dressed with sweatpants

You carry a gun in sweatpants?

9 inches of blue steel.



//you just read that in his voice

chewielouie: Bf+: nvmac: frepnog: ShamWowofDamocles: The hell you will. He's got a two day head start on you, which is more than he needs. Zimmerman's got friends in every town and village from here to the Sudan, he speaks a dozen languages, knows every local custom, he'll blend in, disappear, you'll never see him again. With any luck, he's got the grail already.

WE HAVE A WINNER

I prefer the following:

"Listen, people - do you have any idea who you're dealing with? This is George Zimmerman. You are two days behind the toughest target you have ever tracked. Now I want everyone to sit down, strap in, and turn on all you've got. That would mean now."


ooh...ooh!

You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in neighborhood watch, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In Vietnam his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well Zimmerman was the best.

How about this?

Listen, and understand. That Zimmerman is out there. He can't be bargained with. He can't be reasoned with. He doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And he absolutely will not stop, even when told to do so by the 911 dispatcher, ever, and he will hold his ground and not retreat until you are dead.

Awesome. Photoshop this, anyone.

Thunderpipes: Sweet Jesus! Something just leaked out of my ass!

I grow weary of you.

fracas: What's the least dignified way this could end? Because that's what I'm betting on.

His new lawyer is Gloria Allred.

tenpoundsofcheese: Your desperate and lame comment is that Hannity should get a visit from the FBI???

To be fair, every day that goes by without Hannity being hung by his own entrails is a travesty of justice.

Thunderpipes: No, the process starts when the DA doesn't think there is a reason to press charges. It should have ended there.

Don't have a real grasp of the legal system there do ya skippy?

That's okay, we don't expect much from you.


Thunderpipes: Now we got Obama and the mob overriding this, you really think this is good precedent? "oh, well we think he should be thrown in jail and found guilty!". Oh, okay, DA overruled. Al, Jesse, Obama, liberal public, you guys now are the law.

Yes, because Grand Juries and special prosecutors were never used until Obama got elected.

It's ALL OBAMA'S FAULT!

SoCalSurfer: Step 1: tell the mob he's in Mexico

Step 2: mob goes to Mexico to hunt him down

Step 3: build wall and keep the mob in Mexico

Step 4: problem solved

Yeah, cause if there is anything we know, it's there is no way to get to the US from Mexico other than land.

Reading this thread with Savoy Brown's Hellbound Train blasting in the background.

Old

ciberido: srhp29: A white man hiding in Mexico will stick out like a sore thumb.

Poe's Law, but, have you even been to Mexico? White people don't exactly stand out there.

Because they're all lying down.

Drunk in the gutter.

At least in Cancun in Spring time.

9beers: The mob is getting that new flat screen TV one way or the other.

You already planning the stores you want to loot?

Zimmerman charged....POST PONIES!

Englebert Slaptyback: Okay, which one of you added this comment to TFA?


Sccop_K
@Battler - well hold on. Zimmerman's admitted to killing Trayvon. If he wants to present "stand your ground", he's got to get on the stand. And if Law and Order has taught us anything - AND IT HAS - an unstable defendant is a sitting duck for Sam Waterston.

LMAO! Nice!


/can we get ADA Cabbot instead?
//she's much easier on the eyes

Hmmm... It's a Zimmerman thread, but one of the regulars seems to be missing...

NateGrey: Cue Republicans saying he didnt do anything wrong and shouldnt be charged.

Follow the law until they dont approve of the results.

/Vote Republican

You sound all filibustery

I hopes he runs.

Consider theres a bounty on his head and the DOJ refuses to do anything about it, he's a dead man if he spends any time in a jail.