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2012-04-11 06:28:39 PM
Come on Speedy Trial! Daddy needs a new pair of shoes!
 
2012-04-11 06:29:00 PM
vegasj: [s17.postimage.org image 480x480]

You know the G20 riot in Toronto was caused by white people right and wasn't a race riot right? Your posts aren't making any sense.
 
2012-04-11 06:29:07 PM
Free George Zimmerman?
No thanks, I'm trying to cut down.
 
2012-04-11 06:29:08 PM
9beers: alcoda: Actually, I'm fairly impressed with Angela Corey.

Yes, overcharging a crime so you can retain your reputation as being tough on crime when you know there's no chance of getting a conviction is so noble.

I can't wait for the followup thread when he's found innocent and walks completely free because she decided to be an AW and overcharge.


I hate myself for this but I agree with you here.
 
2012-04-11 06:29:19 PM
Aloy: Watching the press conference now, and it's farking crap. She couldn't stuff anymore meaningless buzzwords in there if she used Santorum lube.\

She might as well have just said "We're caving to the angry black people and charging him."

Also, I particularly love how the family will continue to protest until he is convicted. Yes, they totally just want justice, not bloodshed if they don't get their way.


Imagine your father\Mother\SOn\Daughter\Wife was followed, stalked, and then shot to death when they were on their way back from the store? What do you think just ice would be? Just a trial? Be honest, would you not be angry?

You are really grasping at straws if you are maligning the family for wanting some type of consequence for the guy who shot their unarmed son to death.
 
2012-04-11 06:29:31 PM
I wonder if the New Black Panthers will still want George dead since he is not a Pink People? George is more of Taupe People.
 
2012-04-11 06:30:00 PM
9beers: bugontherug: I believe the defendant molested Trayvon on someone's private property, where he had no right to be.

What?


Zimmerman molested Trayvon on private property. He was trespassing, and had no right to stand his ground.
 
2012-04-11 06:30:03 PM
Rent Party: By impeding Martin, Zimmerman forcibly confined him. He did so with the intent to terrorize or inflict bodily harm on him. We know this because Martin is dead. We may also argue that by playing cop, he interfered with the performance of a government function; that being the cops.

Does Zimmerman's actions meet the guidelines of the statute? He had a gun. There was a confrontation. He was actively pursuing Martin, who was actively fleeing.

Is English not your native language? Does the statute confuse you?


Better call the prosecutor, Rent Party, she obviously does not speak English as her native language. She's apparently quite confused about the kidnapping statute, because SHE DIDN'T CHARGE ZIMMERMAN WITH KIDNAPPING.

How's it feel to have your lunatic nonsense conclusively refuted minutes after you spewed it? Still going to preach to everybody that someone can be convicted of kidnapping merely because they impeded another person's progress? Or are you going to come up with some brain-dead theory that the State's Attorney and all her staff don't know what they're doing?
 
2012-04-11 06:30:06 PM
Good stuff. now the actual evidence can be introduced. I want to hear the ballistics and forensic evidence, personally - angle of the shot, where the bullet ended up, and so forth. That will be really telling as to where the weapon was when it was fired.

Speculation can stop now. Actual analysis of the evidence that could not be released prior to an actual trial can begin.
 
2012-04-11 06:30:24 PM
JohnBigBootay: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: So is Zimmerman the Mumia for white people now, or what?

Never understood the mumia thing. Of all the wrongly convicted people in the penitentiary - and there are scores of cases where it's all but crystal clear, why did that guy become the symbol? Because When I read that case it kind of sort of seems like he's guilty. At the very least it's not clear what happened. We have people on death row that have been exonerated by DNA and no one knows their names.


I think it's because he's a brilliant and compelling speaker and writer. The way that he's able to articulate his position and his opinions are really captivating. Plus it was a hugely controversial case, and to me at least it seems like he was wrongly convicted.
 
2012-04-11 06:30:26 PM
angry people on CNN
 
2012-04-11 06:30:35 PM
Oh great..... Sharpton coming on already? lol
 
2012-04-11 06:30:49 PM
Mrtraveler01: You know the G20 riot in Toronto was caused by white people right and wasn't a race riot right? Your posts aren't making any sense.

Internet meltdowns are never pretty.
 
2012-04-11 06:31:07 PM
bugontherug: 9beers: bugontherug: I believe the defendant molested Trayvon on someone's private property, where he had no right to be.

What?

Zimmerman molested Trayvon on private property. He was trespassing, and had no right to stand his ground.


Witnesses and Zimmerman and the police report put it right next to a public walkway that goes through everyone's backyard.
 
2012-04-11 06:31:10 PM
TravisBickle62: bugontherug: 9beers: She's even admitting now that it's going to be tough to fight this due to the stand your ground law.

That's going to be determined in a pretrial hearing. I believe the defendant molested Trayvon on someone's private property, where he had no right to be. That should nullify his stand your ground defense.

If Zimmerman shoved his finger up Trayvon's ass then imo Zimmerman should receive a stiff prison sentence


What? I didn't say anything about a sexual assault. What the hell are you talking about?
 
2012-04-11 06:31:14 PM
vegasj: haha... does it matter?

You asserted you made more. It is incumbent upon you as the originator of the assertion to provide the first data point.
 
2012-04-11 06:31:28 PM
Deucednuisance: s2s2s2: You mean up until the point he wasn't? He had already turned once, toward George, pretending to have a weapon in his waistband.

Oh, c'mon.

He could have been scratching his balls for all we know.

"Pretending to have a weapon", where do you come up with this stuff?



No doubt. If hes a typical young kid, martin is simply adjustng his pants, which is both a common behavior and can be interpreted as a neervoud reaction.

To zimmerman though, a wannabe cop who knows the official lingo about "showing hands" within the law enforcement community, as well as interpreting it in the context of his own suspiciousness...well
 
2012-04-11 06:32:12 PM
Tensions have risen in recent days in Sanford. Someone shot up an unoccupied police car Tuesday as it sat outside the neighborhood where Martin was killed. And a demonstration by college students closed the town's police station Monday.

Found "the mob".
 
2012-04-11 06:32:13 PM
Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: Mrtraveler01: You know the G20 riot in Toronto was caused by white people right and wasn't a race riot right? Your posts aren't making any sense.

Internet meltdowns are never pretty.


But entertaining to watch nonetheless.
 
2012-04-11 06:32:38 PM
redmid17: bugontherug: 9beers: bugontherug: I believe the defendant molested Trayvon on someone's private property, where he had no right to be.

What?

Zimmerman molested Trayvon on private property. He was trespassing, and had no right to stand his ground.

Witnesses and Zimmerman and the police report put it right next to a public walkway that goes through everyone's backyard.


The key words being "right next to," i.e., "not on it," i.e., "in someone's yard."
 
2012-04-11 06:33:15 PM
bugontherug: TravisBickle62: bugontherug: 9beers: She's even admitting now that it's going to be tough to fight this due to the stand your ground law.

That's going to be determined in a pretrial hearing. I believe the defendant molested Trayvon on someone's private property, where he had no right to be. That should nullify his stand your ground defense.

If Zimmerman shoved his finger up Trayvon's ass then imo Zimmerman should receive a stiff prison sentence

What? I didn't say anything about a sexual assault. What the hell are you talking about?


You said that Zimmerman molested Trayvon ... given that it's two guys, molesting means either a finger in the ass or a dick in he mouth ... make up your farking mind
 
2012-04-11 06:33:16 PM
cretinbob: because he got out of his car.

Which is not stalking.
herp.
 
2012-04-11 06:33:30 PM
I'm actually more interested in the internal affairs investigation. At this point Zimmerman will walk simply because too much evidence was destroyed through strategic incompetence, but the GOAL is to have this kind of shiat not happen again by, you know, disciplining the cops involved.

I mean, I don't like that Zimmerman will get away with murder, but it's best to focus on what will actually get results.
 
2012-04-11 06:33:35 PM
Deucednuisance: s2s2s2: You mean up until the point he wasn't? He had already turned once, toward George, pretending to have a weapon in his waistband.
Oh, c'mon.
He could have been scratching his balls for all we know.
"Pretending to have a weapon", where do you come up with this stuff?


The same place Z came up with it when he was talking to the dispatcher. He was implying that the kid had a weapon--"he's got something in his hands" "his hand is in his waistband" "he's messed up or something."

I"m not gonna go back and listen to it again, but one day I transcribed it all on here. He was pretty clearly trying to hint that the scary black kid was coming right for him! And that was before Trayvon had even noticed him.

shiat, even if you just listen to the 911 call from Zimmerman, he sounds like a paranoid fark.
 
2012-04-11 06:33:40 PM
Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: Minimum wage, huh?

negative
 
2012-04-11 06:33:44 PM
I prefer the old days, when racists would at least pretend they weren't racist.
 
2012-04-11 06:34:13 PM
gimmegimme: 9beers: The prosecutor admits to praying with Martin's parents. LOL keep this biatch talking and she'll blow this case before the night is done.

Wow. Now you want to restrict freedom of religion. I guess you're just asking questions. In the form of statements.


I think it has nothing to do with religion and more with conflict of interest, perceived or real. Unless she prayed with Zimmerman's family too, that doesn't exactly look unbiased.
 
2012-04-11 06:34:23 PM
Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I think it's because he's a brilliant and compelling speaker and writer. The way that he's able to articulate his position and his opinions are really captivating. Plus it was a hugely controversial case, and to me at least it seems like he was wrongly convicted.

Hmm. I'll have to read up on that again. God knows there are many innocent men in jail and it's a sore point with me and I usually keep up with crap like that a la West Memphis 3 etc. I cannot imagine anything worse. I just vaguely recall reading about his case once and coming away with the feeling, 'why'd they pick this guy'? I agree he's a very good writer. I'll look again.
 
2012-04-11 06:34:50 PM
bugontherug: Zimmerman molested Trayvon on private property. He was trespassing, and had no right to stand his ground.

Zimmerman lived there, and was appointed by the HOA to patrol.
Trayvon was visiting.
 
2012-04-11 06:35:21 PM
s2s2s2: Tensions have risen in recent days in Sanford. Someone shot up an unoccupied police car Tuesday as it sat outside the neighborhood where Martin was killed. And a demonstration by college students closed the town's police station Monday.

Found "the mob".


What's your problem? The guy who shot the police car was standing his ground.
 
2012-04-11 06:35:22 PM
bugontherug: Zimmerman molested Trayvon on private property.

Again, what?

Zimmerman lived in the community and was on community property just as Martin was.
 
2012-04-11 06:35:26 PM
spiderpaz: I know this is going to sound racist, but I'm going to say it anyway:
You almost never post in any thread that isn't somehow related to Israel. So what's your angle in this thing? Because Zimmerman's Jewish?


It doesn't make you sound like a racist.


It does make you sound like an ignorant asshole, though. 90-95%+ of my posts are not in Israel or Judaism related threads.
 
2012-04-11 06:35:40 PM
gimmegimme: I prefer the old days, when racists would at least pretend they weren't racist.

Who is the racist in this?
 
2012-04-11 06:35:45 PM
Deucednuisance: themeaningoflifeisnot: Wow, you just get everything wrong. At trial, the defense does not have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the accused was acting in self-defense. The prosecution must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the accused was not justified in his use of deadly force.

You might, just might want to get to a legal dictionary and look up the phrase "affirmative defense".

themeaningoflifeisnot: And while you're at it, you manage to get even the basics of criminal law backwards. You're a real genius.

Careful with that axe, Eugene.


Another genius. Under Florida law, as in many states, justified use of deadly force must be disproved by the prosecution. There are rules that vary between jurisdictions regarding how the defense affirmatively raises the defense, but once the defense has been interjected, it is the prosecution's obligation to disprove it.

If you don't believe me, the State's Attorney just said, explicitly, that the State has the burden of refuting justification.

Okay, Eugene? That simple enough for you?
 
2012-04-11 06:36:08 PM
bugontherug: redmid17: bugontherug: 9beers: bugontherug: I believe the defendant molested Trayvon on someone's private property, where he had no right to be.

What?

Zimmerman molested Trayvon on private property. He was trespassing, and had no right to stand his ground.

Witnesses and Zimmerman and the police report put it right next to a public walkway that goes through everyone's backyard.

The key words being "right next to," i.e., "not on it," i.e., "in someone's yard."


If there in the general area of it, I'd assume it would be presumed like an easement kinda like the grass between the sidewalk and the street.
 
2012-04-11 06:36:38 PM
The Coroner of Munchkinland: No doubt. If hes a typical young kid, martin is simply adjustng his pants, which is both a common behavior and can be interpreted as a neervoud reaction.

To zimmerman though, a wannabe cop who knows the official lingo about "showing hands" within the law enforcement community, as well as interpreting it in the context of his own suspiciousness...well


Maybe Zimmerman just wanted to find out where Tray got that awesome hoodie?
How would Martin know any better?
 
2012-04-11 06:37:00 PM
ChuDogg: Oh great..... Sharpton coming on already? lol

He kicked off the press conference, not the family's attorney, the racist AW.
 
2012-04-11 06:37:12 PM
vegasj: Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: Minimum wage, huh?

negative


You pay other people to work? Man, that's harsh.
 
2012-04-11 06:37:18 PM
TravisBickle62: You said that Zimmerman molested Trayvon ... given that it's two guys, molesting means either a finger in the ass or a dick in he mouth ... make up your farking mind

One of the old meanings of molest is harass. Doesn't necessarily mean physical molestation, although that is by far the most common usage in this millenium.
 
2012-04-11 06:37:28 PM
Anyone watching the Sharpton speech? The Negro Community is frowning on some shenenigans...
 
2012-04-11 06:37:32 PM
I'm guessing the prosecution is putting alot of faith into jury selection.

Or its a show trial designed to pacify the people screaming for "justice" ....like how Obama repealed DADT but hasn't done shiat about gay marriage.



/u mad?
 
2012-04-11 06:38:37 PM
gimmegimme: The guy who shot the police car was standing his ground.

Well, we do know that it was armed. So it had it coming. Paranoid Crown Vic POS.
 
2012-04-11 06:38:51 PM
=)
 
2012-04-11 06:39:26 PM
great_tigers: gimmegimme: I prefer the old days, when racists would at least pretend they weren't racist.

Who is the racist in this?


Link (new window)

Pink People. Really?
 
2012-04-11 06:39:53 PM
Giltric: I'm guessing the prosecution is putting alot of faith into jury selection.

Can Zimmerman opt for trial by judge?
 
2012-04-11 06:40:01 PM
9beers: He kicked off the press conference, not the family's attorney, the racist AW.

"AH LAWDY!!! HE GOTS WHAT HE DISERVES!!!"

 
2012-04-11 06:40:11 PM
Is this a press conference or a religious rally?
 
2012-04-11 06:40:20 PM
vegasj: ... only to appease the cry babies and avoid riots and looting.

you can bet your ass.


Surely he'll plead not guilty & a jury will not convict him.


I knew I had you favorited in Nazi red as "Galloping racist" for a reason.
 
2012-04-11 06:40:31 PM
TravisBickle62: bugontherug: TravisBickle62: bugontherug: 9beers: She's even admitting now that it's going to be tough to fight this due to the stand your ground law.

That's going to be determined in a pretrial hearing. I believe the defendant molested Trayvon on someone's private property, where he had no right to be. That should nullify his stand your ground defense.

If Zimmerman shoved his finger up Trayvon's ass then imo Zimmerman should receive a stiff prison sentence

What? I didn't say anything about a sexual assault. What the hell are you talking about?

You said that Zimmerman molested Trayvon ... given that it's two guys, molesting means either a finger in the ass or a dick in he mouth ... make up your farking mind


Weird. You're using a less common definition of "molest" than I am.

Molest: Pester or harass (someone), typically in an aggressive or persistent manner.

Link (new window)

Note that it is practice in dictionaries to place more common uses before less common uses.

By carrying around a loaded firearm, suspiciously stalking the minor Trayvon through the neighborhood, and persisting to do so against Neighborhood Watch protocol and police advice, the defendant molested the child.
 
2012-04-11 06:40:42 PM
ChuDogg: Oh great..... Sharpton coming on already? lol

I think he sucks as the host of a television program while serving an important role getting justice when it is clearly needed. The cops can be your friends or your worst enemy depending on random circumstances that often make no sense to the average person. There needs to be some kind of predictability of expectation in how our judicial system operates and, like it or not, when the public does or is likely to be outraged when a young life is taken authorities will be affected.

Zimmerman is charged and in custody. Who can doubt he will now get the best legal defense available, and for free, the same way another despised Floridian (Casey Anthony) did?

I'm just as willing to accept the outcome of this as I was with Anthony.
 
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