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What a tween girl might look like.

The only thing 'tween about her is where I'd like to...

Expolaris: What she said is totally true, but it''s not what the parents want to hear about their perfect little unique snowflake. I remember reading shiat older than me when i was a kid and my parents didn't discourage me away from it despite some of the themes. There was a lot of visceral killing and farking in some of those "fantasy" books (ask R.R. Martin). For me it was those books that helped teach the good ol lessons: Don't sell yourself short, don't be a manwhore/whore, and have confidence in who you are.

Yeah it's a book in text speech for tween/teen girls. Every kind of person / generation has a way to convey the same good lessons that are in every other book. They don't see the possible good that presenting the ideas in a way they can understand, they only see a slut manual for their little girl.

/i love any day i get to use the term "Slut Manual"

My mom got scolded by the local librarian for letting me check out Stephan King at 11 or so. I hear the response was about the same when as an elementary school art teacher tried to turn me right-handed.

catmandu: Orgasmatron138: rudemix: While books can teach young adults serious life issues like sexuality and the like, they can also help teach some sense of adventure. I'm old so my thoughts might be outdated but I think reading the Great Brain and the Mad Scientists club when I was about 10 years old helped me develop a sense of adventure and the acceptance that using the mind is a good thing. It was easily as beneficial as reading the Fear of Flying and without the uncomfortable boner all the time.

For me it was Encyclopedia Brown, as well as the works of Gordon Korman and John Bellairs.

I was more into Danny Dunn and Tom Swift

Aw hell yeah, Mad Scientists Club! You know there was a sequel to that book, right?

Anyone else read Rockwell's other book, "The Portmanteau Book"?
Can I get a "Matthew Looney" up in here?

/Alvin Fernald? McGurk? Something Queer Is Going On?

I learned about sex from reading Jane Auel's Earth's Children series when I was 8. Rape, explicit sex scenes, multiple partners, all set in historical fiction! What more can you ask for? Oh course my very conservative mother never allowed ANY kind of sexually explicit material in her house, but she had never read them and I wasn't about to tell on myself.

/learned to read very very early
//great stuff in books

Ashtrey: My mom got scolded by the local librarian for letting me check out Stephan King at 11 or so. I hear the response was about the same when as an elementary school art teacher tried to turn me right-handed.

Well, 11 might be a little young for Stephen King (but not too young to get gangbanged in one of his stories!), but it wasn't the librarian's job to decide, so yeah.

I do remember a game I had with a female friend of mine in 9th or 10th grade where we would show each other the most disturbing parts of the books we read to get a reaction. Her being a proper christian girl, and my being a depraved 14-year-old boy, it was no contest.

Anyone read The Library Policeman? Does the phrase "hot steel bar" ring a bell? Hee hee hee.

namegoeshere: under a mountain: Orgasmatron138: rudemix: While books can teach young adults serious life issues like sexuality and the like, they can also help teach some sense of adventure. I'm old so my thoughts might be outdated but I think reading the Great Brain and the Mad Scientists club when I was about 10 years old helped me develop a sense of adventure and the acceptance that using the mind is a good thing. It was easily as beneficial as reading the Fear of Flying and without the uncomfortable boner all the time.

For me it was Encyclopedia Brown, as well as the works of Gordon Korman and John Bellairs.
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For me it was these guys

Nancy Drew.

Nancy Drew, the works of Beverly Cleary, Marguerite Henry, Paul Zindel, Paula Danziger, and the Chronicles of Prydain by Lloyd Alexander.

Digitalstrange: over_and_done: Remember, if their favorite wharrgarbl radio host / TV wingnut / "Focus On The Outrage" newsletter claims something, then It Must Be True, and they are content to re-spew it ad nauseum without ever verifying any of the claims for themselves. They justify it as being "for the CHIIIIIIILdren", but somehow, spending the time to read the books themselves and making up their own damn minds isn't worth the effort.
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Meh, you say that as if there could be no possible fault found with the book.

The crucial point is that, if they read it themselves and make up their own damn mind, they can come to whatever conclusion they want, including "this book sucks because of _________". That's totally okay. Or do like what you've done, and let their kids make up their own minds about the books.

It's the mindless "this book must be banned because somebody else said it sucks" that makes me lose all respect for them and their position.

This driveling sot is no Judy Blume.

ravenlore: Barricaded Gunman: buckler: Of course, I also discovered the novel Coffee, Tea or Me?, and a Xaviera Hollander book about that time in my mom's drawer. I also began to suspect that "shoulder massagers" may have other uses.

This is weird... it's like you're my alt or something, except that I found MY copy of Coffee, Tea or Me? in my parents' basement. It was the paperback, with the stewardess on it.

/fap

I had to make sure my copy was still on my bookshelf.

yep, it's there.

Well, it's hardly going to go missing if it's glued in place, is it?

98K514: Anybody else learn about scoliosis and "special spots" from Deenie?

Yep. I even tried the washcloth trick. Though I thought the "special spot" was near my tailbone for that one. But never mind how complicated my learning about sex was thanks to my father being a perv.

As for what got me to the right spot on my anatomy? I remember dog-earing Anne Rice's Cry to Heaven and reading my mother's women's magazines as they explained to uneducated and badly married women that the pink nubbin above where the tampon goes was actually useful.

pute kisses like a man: when I have kids, I'm going to get them to read the Decameron.

(or at least ask them to carry it around their teachers whenever they mention banning books. more sex in those stories than an aristocrats joke.)

I went to an Anti Racist Action concert in high school and for a week carried around a book I got from there about how the White Power movement was using/twisting punk to use as a recruitment tool.

To the credit of my teachers, the two who asked why the f--k I was reading a book with a swastika on the cover got that I was reading it for good, not evil. Know thy enemy and all. It was really informative, actually.

/put me down as a girl who got a lot of good out of Are You There God - especially since my mom never bothered bringing me up to speed - but still, to this day, don't get what the f--k sanitary belts were. Well, I kind of do now. But not really.

Kids these days should read Flowers for Algernon in school. Give them hope.

StreetlightInTheGhetto: pute kisses like a man: when I have kids, I'm going to get them to read the Decameron.

(or at least ask them to carry it around their teachers whenever they mention banning books. more sex in those stories than an aristocrats joke.)

I went to an Anti Racist Action concert in high school and for a week carried around a book I got from there about how the White Power movement was using/twisting punk to use as a recruitment tool.

To the credit of my teachers, the two who asked why the f--k I was reading a book with a swastika on the cover got that I was reading it for good, not evil. Know thy enemy and all. It was really informative, actually.

/put me down as a girl who got a lot of good out of Are You There God - especially since my mom never bothered bringing me up to speed - but still, to this day, don't get what the f--k sanitary belts were. Well, I kind of do now. But not really.

The pads didn't have adhesive on the back. They had extra material on the front and back. You had to wear this belt thing, with straps that hung down front center and back center. The extra material tucked into them and held the pad in place. Yeah, it was about as comfortable as you are imagining, especially because they didn't come in thin at that time, and were all thicker than pampers.

You girls today are spoiled rotten with your fancy period items.

/not that old
//began menstruating right at the transition to adhesive pads
///which were a farking great bit of progress, I tell you

I can't remember the series of books, but when I made it to grade 7 my classroom had this big cardboard display of red covered short story books that were popular during free reading periods. I remember some parental furor over banning some of the books we read during class, but parents would be shocked if they read these books I don't even think the teachers read them. They all had pretty vanilla titles, but the stories in them were very adult oriented. I remember one that was basically a manual on how to break into homes for drug money, another about father/daughter incest, another about female teacher/male student sex, and an assortment of really violent ones, complete with hand drawn pictures.

The books that people wanted banned didn't even come close to the sex, drugs, crime, and violence in the "red" books. You think the teachers would have clued in given that there was a rush to get these books every reading period.

StreetlightInTheGhetto:
/put me down as a girl who got a lot of good out of Are You There God - especially since my mom never bothered bringing me up to speed - but still, to this day, don't get what the f--k sanitary belts were. Well, I kind of do now. But not really.

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bill4935: catmandu: Orgasmatron138: rudemix: While books can teach young adults serious life issues like sexuality and the like, they can also help teach some sense of adventure. I'm old so my thoughts might be outdated but I think reading the Great Brain and the Mad Scientists club when I was about 10 years old helped me develop a sense of adventure and the acceptance that using the mind is a good thing. It was easily as beneficial as reading the Fear of Flying and without the uncomfortable boner all the time.

For me it was Encyclopedia Brown, as well as the works of Gordon Korman and John Bellairs.

I was more into Danny Dunn and Tom Swift

Aw hell yeah, Mad Scientists Club! You know there was a sequel to that book, right?



Aw man! I loved the Mad Scientists Club! And I was so excited when I saw the sequel in one of those Scholastic book club flyers we got in school. I turned in my money and the order form and waited. A couple of weeks later, the teacher gave me the money back and said that no one else ordered anything and she forgot to send mine in. I never got to read it.

/Now I has a sad.

stevetherobot:
Aw man! I loved the Mad Scientists Club! And I was so excited when I saw the sequel in one of those Scholastic book club flyers we got in school. I turned in my money and the order form and waited. A couple of weeks later, the teacher gave me the money back and said that no one else ordered anything and she forgot to send mine in. I never got to read it.

/Now I has a sad.

More sad: There's 4 books in total, a fact I did not know until today. Looks like they are all hard to come by.
http://www.madscientistsclub.com/news.html

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2012-04-12 04:42:08 AM

Kids these days should read Flowers for Algernon in school. Give them hope.

that's really funny you post that, because I had looked it up on the net last night to see if it really was a children's book or not, and what it was about. I had seen it in the school library many many years ago, and last night looking it up i found it to be way more sci-fi than I had mis-remembered.