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(BattleSwarm)   "Thomas Kinkade was hated because he was liked by the wrong kinds of people: the loathsome Lumpenproletariat of flyover country, the people who had the bad taste to believe in God and vote Republican"   (battleswarmblog.com) divider line 284
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2012-04-10 07:45:07 AM
Did somebody really bother to hate Kinkade, or is this another paranoid victim of his own imagination?
 
2012-04-10 07:45:16 AM
it was hated art for the same reason everything else ends up hated: overexposure. they took an arguably 'neato' style and put it everywhere from fridge magnets to sweatshirts. it was hated because it went from hard-to-acquire originals to "i picked up a framed 200 dollar signed print from Tuesday Morning for 100!" it became food for the masses. and the avant garde HATES food for the masses.

Adele is a good example of how to say "fark you" to the machine. come out rocking, be enjoyed and adored.. then pull the fark back and get the hell out of dodge and disappear for a couple years.

always keep the demand exceeding the supply. the quickest way to 'ruin' anything is to make it available to everyone.
 
2012-04-10 07:49:52 AM
Hey, Lar?

/your blog blows goats
 
2012-04-10 07:56:22 AM
yes, and?
 
2012-04-10 07:57:23 AM
Yes, his paintings were white bread. But white bread isn't shiat because of who eats it, it's shiat because it lacks character, flavor, texture, or anything else that might distinguish it from foam rubber.

Likewise, once you've seen one Thomas Kinkade painting, you've seen them all -- and in 20 years, like so much kitsch, no one is going to know the fark he was.
 
2012-04-10 08:00:30 AM
there are some pretty excellent parodies of him out there though.
 
2012-04-10 08:02:47 AM
St_Francis_P: Did somebody really bother to hate Kinkade, or is this another paranoid victim of his own imagination?

Both. There is a tiny tiny minority of people who give a shiat about good art, but that doesn't stop people from feeling ostensibly oppressed by them however. Conservatives get really bent out of shape by anything that looks like 'the other.' Agree with them or you're a threat.
 
2012-04-10 08:07:24 AM
DarnoKonrad: Yes, his paintings were white bread. But white bread isn't shiat because of who eats it, it's shiat because it lacks character, flavor, texture, or anything else that might distinguish it from foam rubber.

Likewise, once you've seen one Thomas Kinkade painting, you've seen them all -- and in 20 years, like so much kitsch, no one is going to know the fark he was.


This. I WAS flyover country Republican once, and I hated the bland TK stuff.
 
2012-04-10 08:12:01 AM
DarnoKonrad: Yes, his paintings were white bread. But white bread isn't shiat because of who eats it, it's shiat because it lacks character, flavor, texture, or anything else that might distinguish it from foam rubber.

Likewise, once you've seen one Thomas Kinkade painting, you've seen them all -- and in 20 years, like so much kitsch, no one is going to know the fark he was.


This. I can't call it bad, but I wouldn't call it good either. Of course, I do find it better than the crap where someone puts a dot on a canvas and has to add paragraphs of explanation to make it art. At least Kinkade was approachable for the average viewer. That will likely matter in how he is viewed in the future. He also seemed to be of the Warhol school of artists. The art is to make money. Kinkade knew how to make money from his art by slapping his art everywhere.
 
2012-04-10 08:13:32 AM
Eh... Technically, he was a talented painter, I guess, but he painted cheesy couch art with no substance.

It was uninspired tripe made for mass consumption. The reality TV of the art world, if you will.
 
2012-04-10 08:17:23 AM
I hope this causes a surge of Tomas Kinkade purchases to "stick it to the libs".
 
2012-04-10 08:18:40 AM
"Lumpenproletariat"...is that some manner of werewolf?
 
2012-04-10 08:19:01 AM
James!: I hope this causes a surge of Tomas Kinkade purchases to "stick it to the libs".

Sales Of Kinkade Artwork Surge (new window)
 
2012-04-10 08:21:10 AM
DarnoKonrad: James!: I hope this causes a surge of Tomas Kinkade purchases to "stick it to the libs".

Sales Of Kinkade Artwork Surge (new window)


HAHA, Ah, to the malls! Eat burgers made from meat slurry and purchase crappy paintings or the libs will win!
 
2012-04-10 08:32:51 AM
So Republicans want to be associated with crappy hack art now. Got it. Makes a lot of sense really.
 
2012-04-10 08:33:38 AM
Lawrence Person gets my coveted Crying Eagle 9/11 Award for the week for exposing the hatred of the left and their insatiable effort to kill, with their words, this heroic painter-patriot.

You bi-coastal elitist liberals can have your fancy hamburgers and your belled-bottomed trousers, we here in the heartland are perfectly happy with our inspirational joyscapes and our diecast whimsies.

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2012-04-10 08:37:27 AM
Confabulat: So Republicans want to be associated with crappy hack art now. Got it. Makes a lot of sense really.

Read up on the biography of Samuel Morse, before the telegraph he was an artist. Who wanted to do nothing but spread the word of God with art. And we're not talking feel good Catholic or Episcopalian stuff here, we're talking fundamentalist evangelical stuff. The sort of stuff we see today. Oh and as for the telegraph? He saw it was a way to spread the word of God to people everywhere. In many ways the modern GOP would love Morse. Also there's the fact he didn't actually invent the telegraph apparatus and his claim to what we call Morse code is rather shaky. And no he wasn't a nice guy, didn't even have that going for him.
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2012-04-10 08:42:16 AM
logophile: it was hated art for the same reason everything else ends up hated: overexposure. they took an arguably 'neato' style and put it everywhere from fridge magnets to sweatshirts. it was hated because it went from hard-to-acquire originals to "i picked up a framed 200 dollar signed print from Tuesday Morning for 100!" it became food for the masses. and the avant garde HATES food for the masses.

Adele is a good example of how to say "fark you" to the machine. come out rocking, be enjoyed and adored.. then pull the fark back and get the hell out of dodge and disappear for a couple years.

always keep the demand exceeding the supply. the quickest way to 'ruin' anything is to make it available to everyone.


Adele is at least as annoying as Kinkade. How many songs does the world need about a homely chick being dumped?
 
2012-04-10 08:45:39 AM
jbc: How many songs does the world need about a homely chick being dumped?

Are you familiar with the entire genera devoted to being dumped called 'country and western?'
 
2012-04-10 08:48:31 AM
logophile: always keep the demand exceeding the supply. the quickest way to 'ruin' anything is to make it available to everyone.

Someone called the Beatles, well two of them anyways, would like a word.
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2012-04-10 08:49:48 AM
DarnoKonrad: jbc: How many songs does the world need about a homely chick being dumped?

Are you familiar with the entire genera devoted to being dumped called 'country and western?'


The keyword being homely. Shania Twain proved long ago C&W is more about looks than actual talent.
 
2012-04-10 08:51:22 AM
EatHam: there are some pretty excellent parodies of him out there though.

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2012-04-10 08:52:02 AM
Mugato: "Lumpenproletariat"...is that some manner of werewolf?

I thought it was a precursor to breast cancer.
 
2012-04-10 08:53:45 AM
how pathetic does someone's life have to be that they have to see nonsense politics in and get outraged everything, including a man's death?
 
2012-04-10 08:54:59 AM
This is why my entire portfolio is in paintings of Dale Earnhardt Sr. smiling benevolently down on Dale Earnhardt Jr. racing at Talladega.
 
2012-04-10 09:03:56 AM
All the haters just prove how great his art is!

Just like they prove that Samantha Brick is the hottest woman in the world universe.
 
2012-04-10 09:07:56 AM
Mugato: "Lumpenproletariat"...is that some manner of werewolf?

I think it's a variant of "house frau."
 
2012-04-10 09:09:13 AM
Mr. Coffee Nerves: This is why my entire portfolio is in paintings of Dale Earnhardt Sr. smiling benevolently down on Dale Earnhardt Jr. racing at Talladega.

You really need to get into the plate sets. Lithographed ceramics is really the only way to fully capture the soul of the Intimidator faithfully. He's also a cologne that smells like gasoline and burnt rubber.
 
2012-04-10 09:10:55 AM
Aarontology: how pathetic does someone's life have to be that they have to see nonsense politics in and get outraged everything, including a man's death?

I think we're doing OK so far, actually. No one's proposed that the Obama's had him killed in an attempt to replace his wholesome art with the anti-colonialist negro art of Barkley Leonnard Hendricks.

Yet.
 
2012-04-10 09:11:48 AM
Really?

Politicizing sort of bland art?

He didn't break a lot of new ground, he was a capable sort with light and, and he had a love for soft textures and all of his paintings looked sort of like they were painted with a blur filter, which was deliberate.

He sold a lot of prints, he made money. Good on him.

Was he a great artist? In the sense that he will be remembered in a hundred years? Probably not, but that doesn't mean that I hate him? I recognize the medium and its limitations. That folks are trying to latch onto this as a political issue is sort of sad...
 
2012-04-10 09:12:55 AM
DarnoKonrad: Lithographed ceramics is really the only way to fully capture the soul of the Intimidator faithfully.

Laughter LOL out loud.
 
2012-04-10 09:13:11 AM
"...they hated Kinkade because all their hip friends hated Kinkade in the same way they all read The New York Times and voted for Obama."

Boy, we've really lowered the bar on hip-ness.
 
2012-04-10 09:13:13 AM
Diogenes: Aarontology: how pathetic does someone's life have to be that they have to see nonsense politics in and get outraged everything, including a man's death?

I think we're doing OK so far, actually. No one's proposed that the Obama's had him killed in an attempt to replace his wholesome art with the anti-colonialist negro art of Barkley Leonnard Hendricks.

Yet.


OBAMA!
WHERE NORMAN ROCKWELL?
WHERE?
\o/
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/\


/dunno why, but that's the first thing i thought of.
 
2012-04-10 09:13:58 AM
From a different blog, here's an interview where he pretty much is saying that he'd rather create for others than himself. It's a smug, condescending attitude


"I had little interest in how my art affected other people. In fact, my college professors would constantly make the point that one's art is all about one's self. It doesn't matter if someone else understands or likes it. It doesn't matter if they purchase it. All that matters is you.' It was art as self-expression, as opposed to any concern for, or consciousness of an audience, or any desire to impact other people.

"When I became a Christian, I began to challenge that notion. To this day, I find it odious that that notion is fostered within the arts. It is very self-serving and a self-absorbed kind of approach to creativity that really is ineffective. In fact, artists have fought the wrong battle over the past 75 to 100 years. The battle has been one for the freedom of expression, the battle to obtain freedom of expression. Well, artists have won that battle but, in the meantime, they've lost the war for cultural relevancy and a positive impact on society.


Then there's this Where's Waldo crap:
"When I started publishing prints, I viewed it as a joint effort," explained Kinkade. "My wife Nanette and I took our life savings and printed our first print in 1984, and when we published that print, I had this idea to put a little tribute to Nanette within the painting. One of the dealers that was carrying the print, found out about this and began to point it out to collectors. So when I released the next print, the dealer, of course, called me and asked me where the initial 'N' was in that painting and I said, 'There wasn't one. I did that as a tribute to my wife, because we did our first print.' He said, 'Gee, you've got to put 'N's' in the painting as the collectors love it. So I started putting it in the painting just for fun and it has grown to be a curious phenomenon in that the collectors look for it in each painting. I now put a little number by my signature, too, which tells you how many 'N's' are in each painting.


And then there's the fact that:
Now Thomas Kinkade has left us, but his legacy lives on with his paintings now hanging in an estimated 1 out of every 20 homes in the United States alone, providing light and hope to so many
 
2012-04-10 09:16:07 AM
Commented - let's see how long that stays.

I really had no idea Kinkade was adored by these flyover folks. He painted on velvet?
 
2012-04-10 09:16:09 AM
I think Lumpenproletariat needs to be an actual word.
 
2012-04-10 09:19:42 AM
stpauler: And then there's the fact that:
Now Thomas Kinkade has left us, but his legacy lives on with his paintings now hanging in an estimated 1 out of every 20 homes in the United States alone, providing light and hope to so many


I was searching Craigslist for something or another and came across a poor sap that was trying to sell his signed Thomas Kinkade print for 500 dollars. Lord knows what he actually paid for it, but it's going to make beanie babies look like a sound investment. People that bought at the height of his market are going to get burned bad.
 
2012-04-10 09:32:17 AM
I LOVE ART!
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www.ichabodsquad.net

www.ichabodsquad.net
 
2012-04-10 09:38:01 AM
This is the stuff we call manufactured persecution so they can justify persecuting those other people back, first.

/You can tell it's fake when it is always the same usual suspects, it's a very broad group and they happen to know exactly who it is without any demographic studies.
 
2012-04-10 09:55:39 AM
Hey, conservaderps respect anybody who can create surplus value and display public piety.
 
2012-04-10 10:32:30 AM
I hated his paintings because they were crap. If syrupy sentamentalism and cotton candy could paint, they would look like Thomas Kincaid paintings.
 
2012-04-10 10:33:47 AM
give me doughnuts: I hated his paintings because they were crap. If syrupy sentamentalism and cotton candy could paint, they would look like Thomas Kincaid paintings.

This.
 
2012-04-10 10:43:50 AM
Huh... I always assumed he was hated because he sucked.
 
2012-04-10 10:44:36 AM
St_Francis_P: Did somebody really bother to hate Kinkade, or is this another paranoid victim of his own imagination?

You clearly haven't checked into the last few Fark threads on the man.

I mean I never would've bought it on my own, but I definitely had jigsaw puzzles at one point or another that were definitely either by Kinkade or someone really similar. I never understood the sheer vitriol I was reading around here after the guy died- geez if you don't like his stuff no one's forcing you to buy it, but if someone else likes it and gets joy from it how is that hurting you?

I mean I know it's Fark, but it was a lot of hate even by our usual standards around here.
 
2012-04-10 10:51:13 AM
Eddie Adams from Torrance: Huh... I always assumed he was hated because he sucked.

This is all part of that peculiar strain of right-wing political correctness, where you're not allowed to judge anything as being inherently better or worse than anything else, particularly if that thing enjoys mass appeal or can somehow be shoehorned into a broader political context.
 
2012-04-10 10:53:26 AM
Andromeda: I mean I know it's Fark, but it was a lot of hate even by our usual standards around here.

Thomas Kincade circumcised my gay abortion and declawed my cat, and then stiffed me on the tip while drinking American beer.
 
2012-04-10 11:03:43 AM
He was no bob ross, that's for sure
 
2012-04-10 11:11:54 AM
So let me make sure I've got this one:

Thomas Kincaid is popular so the liberals hate him and wish all his work could be replaced with Andres Cerrano and it's proof that popular culture is all about freedom-loving Jesus-adoring Republicans, BUT every other piece of pop culture that's popular is worthless because it's forged at Satan's Anvil -- Hollywood -- where the America-hating entertainment industry prevents real Americans from getting to watch what they want and it's not about how many tickets you sell because Crying Eagle F-150 BUT Fox News is #1 so that means Fox News is the best, most accuratest news around?

Should I be bleeding from all my head holes? Because I am.
 
2012-04-10 11:17:22 AM
How it could be called "art" behooves me in the first place. Art has to challenge you, make you think. What he did just re-enforced their backwoods beliefs. Mass produced, mundane garbage. If I see one of his pos prints in a house, I know instantly the the owners are simple minded hillbillies.
 
2012-04-10 11:20:44 AM
I kind of put him in the same camp of artists as Robert Bateman. Wickedly skilled, but doesn't really paint anything beyond really neat looking illustrations that are turned into money by selling photocopies of the originals.

At the risk of sounding more hipster than thou, the best artists tend to be the mentally ill people the world will likely never hear about.

That' and people who draw hentai, of course.
 
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