RussianPooper: This can't be real. Blame the teachers for everything and then openly oppose anything they need to do to help your child get educated. It reads like satire.
Those can't be real people agreeing with this transparent nonsense, can it?

Yes, endless studies have shown that belittling children and telling them they are failures is the best way to help them succeed.

I guess what irks me the most is that our methods of teaching (or NOT teaching) probably pre-dates cavemen. It is, hands down, the... worst.. possible... way... to do it.

Even when I was a kid, before interactive computers with internet access, I heard people biatching about how kids could not stop watching television and would rather watch television that a teacher rambling on. The first thought in my head was... use television then, idiot.

Teaching needs to evolve and teachers need to be replaced with individual, interactive learning via something with the patience and ability to do the job, aka a computer.

dready zim: If you fail at a task then people say "you failed". The scorecard doesn`t make you a failure, your failure makes you a failure. Remember, failure is your friend. When success, in it`s fickle ways, departs and leaves you for the new winners then failure, your ever faithful companion, will still be with you. If at first you don`t succeed, fail. Then fail again.

Exactly this. I've learned far more from my failures than I have from any of my successes. Instead of telling every kid they're great and wonderful we need to tell them that they will fail at some point. But the important thing isn't the failure, it's how you handle that failure. If you're used to succeeding because people made it easy enough for you, you'll lose hope and give up. But if you've had to overcome failure before, you'll pick back up and try again.

Do your job, parent.

SubBass49: More than likely the teacher said, "You're failing this class." It went through the "English to My-Snowflake-Is-A-Perfect-Angel" translator and came out as, "You're a horrible failure and will suck at life."

So what do you tell a kid who is honestly a horrible failure and will actually suck at life?

bulldg4life: Seriously, it may be one of the greatest pieces of art ever conceived by man

[www.mushroomprinting.com image 512x383]

But it's tuesday.

From the comments: Robbie 3 wks, 6 days ago
OMG ! This infuriates me !!! I feel so bad for your son - you have everyright to punch both of them in the face. How horrible !!!!! I'll say some prayers that your boy can find away to get through this school year as unscarred as possible. Such a shame that this is what some educators have become

I'm glad a lawyer finally weighed in on this subject. Now we know this person has everyright to punch the teacher and principal. Hopefully "everyright" isn't much like "every right", because I don't think violence will help in this situation.

dready zim: SubBass49: More than likely the teacher said, "You're failing this class." It went through the "English to My-Snowflake-Is-A-Perfect-Angel" translator and came out as, "You're a horrible failure and will suck at life."

So what do you tell a kid who is honestly a horrible failure and will actually suck at life?

That is the parent's job.

LOL.
Successful troll is successful. This cant be real.

CapnBlues: also, a "mushroom print" is sexual assault. so every post on this "blog" implies that the author of that post wishes sexual assault on the target of their invectives.

If I started a "I hope you get raped" blog, I'd be pilloried by society, possibly investigated by the authorities, and then shut down by just about anyone who would host that blog. Use a cute euphemism, though? now it's okay?

shame on fark.

http://www.mushroomprinting.com

Mr. Parent should try using correct grammar and sentence structure when lecturing a teacher. And also try doing your job as a parent. One of my kids struggled in school at that age. We helped her more at home and told her to not rely on the teacher is she wouldn't help. And to ignore the teacher is she acted like a biatch. Which she did on a regular basis. She improved because we spent more time at home helping her and less time deflecting responsibility to the teacher.

ph0rk: dready zim: SubBass49: More than likely the teacher said, "You're failing this class." It went through the "English to My-Snowflake-Is-A-Perfect-Angel" translator and came out as, "You're a horrible failure and will suck at life."

So, as a parent, what do you tell a kid who is honestly a horrible failure and will actually suck at life?

That is the parent's job.

FTFM

kukukupo: Dear Parent,

I have 25-30 kids to deal with and due to budget cuts I have no assistant. The state has standards that require me to spend large parts of my day on specific subjects and areas. Additionally, I get paid 10% less than I did a few years ago and have twice as much work to do. I simply don't have the time anymore to hold your kid's hand through the school day. Your kid is entirely responsible for the work he does. If he can't do the work, he fails. I can't make him any more responsible than he is. If you want your kid to succeed, you will need to work with him at home on some basic reading, writing and arithmetic skills.

Sincerely,

Teacher (at least until I can find another job)

Thank you. Wife is a teacher, and she hasn't seen a raise in 6 years. She makes what i made 10 years ago in my second year of work. She also works harder, and more than i do with no overtime.

You say, but they get summers off!!! Well yes they do. They need to in order to regain their composure that they have lost having to teach your retard child.

If you click on her screen name you will pull up a couple of other pieces she has written, yes, it's real

This thread has epic potential.

dready zim: SubBass49: More than likely the teacher said, "You're failing this class." It went through the "English to My-Snowflake-Is-A-Perfect-Angel" translator and came out as, "You're a horrible failure and will suck at life."

So what do you tell a kid who is honestly a horrible failure and will actually suck at life?

Elementary school is far too early to make that determination. And at no point is telling a child "you'll never get it, might as well give up" better than "keep trying, you'll get it."

CravenMorehead: Mr. Parent should try using correct grammar and sentence structure

CravenMorehead: We helped her more at home and told her to not rely on the teacher is she wouldn't help. And to ignore the teacher is she acted like a biatch.

1. How does this go green? The headline is not even mildly amusing and the letter is lame.

2. The letter is lame. I hate myself for reading it.

Earguy: EatHam: melopene: From what I hear, this sort of BS whining from parents has filtered into the first few years of undergrad.

I have had a parent call me after I did not bring their kid back for a second interview.

The worst I've seen is getting a résumé submission with the cover letter from his mother. It was just ridiculous.

That just blows my mind. I'm usually pretty good at seeing things from other people's points of view, even when I think they're wrong or being obtuse, but I can't for the life of me understand how someone would think that having the cover letter written by a parent would be a beneficial on any level. I mean, anyone who thinks about it would understand that it will hurt, or immediately kill an application. How you get from reality to "You'll have a better chance of getting a job if they see that your mom does your work for you" is just beyond me.

♫Flowers are red,
and green leaves are green.
There's no need to see flowers any other way
Than the way they always have been seeeeeeen ♫

♫ BANG BANG Maxwell's silver hammer
came down on her heaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad ♫

/doinitrite?
//notice I didn't specify which 'her'

Optimus Primate: 1. How does this go green? The headline is not even mildly amusing and the letter is lame.

2. The letter is lame. I hate myself for reading it.

Agreed. Subby and the mod approving this story are both failures.

The sense of entitlement I get from parents and students is the reason I won't be a teacher in America for much longer. Sick of lazy kids that think if they show up and stare at a board for 60 minutes it means they should get a passing grade. Sick of having to pander to kids that are there just to disrupt, pick fights, and be generally rude and disrespectful.

I have taught in a range of schools from inner-city to the suburbs and will agree that the American education system is in dire need of restructuring, but in truth I think it's the parents and the gimmie-gimmie-more-more self-centered attitude of the American populace that is fueling the fire.

Frederick: That read like "my kid sucks at school -it's the teachers fault".

Considering this was elementary school, I sense the problem resides at home more than at school.

Came here to say this too.
This first thing out of her mouth is that she is not trailer trash.
If you have to start an argument like that there is probably some truth to the it and you sense that you project that image.

My kids have had old, tenured, on the verge of retiring teachers that don't seem to give a crap
Does my son learn as well or like school as well. No, I will concede that.
As a parent though, I stepped it up at home. We helped him with his home work nightly. WE made and extra effort to make sure that our kid was learning what he needed to.
I don't expect the school system to educate and raise my kids.
This mother of the year obviously does.
Remember, its not your kids fault they are getting that F. Its the teachers.....

I find it humorous that this is in the sidebar

Frederick

That read like "my kid sucks at school -it's the teachers fault".

So it is you that's the teacher, your wife, or your mom.

We have an involved parent, asking the school for help and the school farking up. Of course you blame the parent. Fark you. Did the letter have some errors? Sure, for example " You are supposed to be a fun, happy environment for kids to go to." No, school is supposed to be a safe, educational environment. That said, the Parent is trying to ensure his/her child does well and the school's answer (as it always is) is to humiliate the child and ignore the problem.

Frederick: That read like "my kid sucks at school -it's the teachers fault".

Considering this was elementary school, I sense the problem resides at home more than at school.

This. I think teachers suck in general, but sounds like a biatchy parent who should spend less time smoking and boozing and more time with Snowflake.

Optimus Primate: 1. How does this go green? The headline is not even mildly amusing and the letter is lame.

2. The letter is lame. I hate myself for reading it.

Sounds to me like you would benefit from writing a whiny letter to this site.

BurnShrike: I find it humorous that this is in the sidebar

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i also found that funny. The `older than dirt` t-shirt is available at the fark shop as well

I feel bad for the mushroom print subby is gonna get in this thread.

dready zim: ph0rk: dready zim: SubBass49: More than likely the teacher said, "You're failing this class." It went through the "English to My-Snowflake-Is-A-Perfect-Angel" translator and came out as, "You're a horrible failure and will suck at life."

So, as a parent, what do you tell a kid who is honestly a horrible failure and will actually suck at life?

That is the parent's job.

FTFM

fark, I dunno. You're boned.

Hopefully it isn't a huge surprise and you've been able to work up to it over a few years of trying to keep their expectations realistic.

I am so glad I didn't follow the herd in college and sign up to be a teacher. I may be bored as hell dealing with executive temper tantrums and posting on Fark, but it has to be better than putting up with crap like this.

I worked for one school year at an elementary school as an IT guy, and in that year I experienced the following:

-Sick for six months straight
-Had a stapler thrown at my head
-taught kids how to Kamehameha
-Called a racist by the head of the PTA for disciplining her child
-Called a racist for asking someone to move her car while on Bus duty
-vomited on multiple times
-Realized I was one of two male employees, me and the janitor
-Called in to help restrain an out of control special needs kid, who then bit me hard enough to draw blood
-Hooked up with that unhappily married minx of a history teacher
-Chased a kid all over the neighborhood who took off during recess
-Learned that kindergarten is one of the most insane things in the world
-So many teachers are so very lonely
-Taught a 5th grader the basics of organic chemistry, which he used to make a kickass science fair project
-Unintentionally became the head of the non-teachers union

not sure why i spent so much time reading open letter and thread

/no comment

OnlyM3: Frederick

That read like "my kid sucks at school -it's the teachers fault".
So it is you that's the teacher, your wife, or your mom.

We have an involved parent, asking the school for help and the school farking up. Of course you blame the parent. Fark you. Did the letter have some errors? Sure, for example " You are supposed to be a fun, happy environment for kids to go to." No, school is supposed to be a safe, educational environment. That said, the Parent is trying to ensure his/her child does well and the school's answer (as it always is) is to humiliate the child and ignore the problem.

you seem very outnumbered in your opinion.

Clemkadidlefark: bow get him the fark out of the pubic skrools

yeah, get him to the skrool you went to....

Jesus Christ, what a screaming nasty coont. Guess what biatch, it's not just the teacher's responsibility to teach your child. Per your own words, "he doesn't want to try", and that's YOUR fault as a parent for not instilling in him a good work ethic. Your ranting hateful words make you look like the trailer trash helicopter parent you are, telling everyone else to raise your kid right Teachers have tons of kids to deal with, and if your fit throwing crotch fruit doesn't want to learn, he's going to be passed up. There isn't time to sit there with him and ignore everyone else. Get over it, or home school him. But that would be too much work wouldn't it?.

Javacrucian: I know you may have stereotyped us because we live in a trailer park and are on the free lunch program, but you don't know much of anything at all.

I know that the rest of your letter sounds like something you would be shouting into a cell phone while pushing your three kids in a stroller in front of the Dollar Store and trying to light a cigarette all at the same time.

You know my ex-wife?

It is impossible for teachers to constantly give one-on-one attention to each student, no matter how dumb or smart they are. It is the parents responsibility to fill in that need, so trailer trash lady, it is YOUR responsibility to educate your children.

Famous Thamas:
-Realized I was one of two male employees, me and the janitor
-Hooked up with that unhappily married minx of a history teacher
-So many teachers are so very lonely


Sounds like a decent gig.

dready zim: SubBass49: More than likely the teacher said, "You're failing this class." It went through the "English to My-Snowflake-Is-A-Perfect-Angel" translator and came out as, "You're a horrible failure and will suck at life."

So what do you tell a kid who is honestly a horrible failure and will actually suck at life?

"I'll throw in another ten if you call me Daddy while you're down there. Twenty if you start crying."

BurnShrike: dready zim: If you fail at a task then people say "you failed". The scorecard doesn`t make you a failure, your failure makes you a failure. Remember, failure is your friend. When success, in it`s fickle ways, departs and leaves you for the new winners then failure, your ever faithful companion, will still be with you. If at first you don`t succeed, fail. Then fail again.

Exactly this. I've learned far more from my failures than I have from any of my successes. Instead of telling every kid they're great and wonderful we need to tell them that they will fail at some point. But the important thing isn't the failure, it's how you handle that failure. If you're used to succeeding because people made it easy enough for you, you'll lose hope and give up. But if you've had to overcome failure before, you'll pick back up and try again.

This morning we asked my 3 year old to put his socks on. As trivial as it is to us, to 3 year olds, it can be somewhat difficult. My child hangs his head and says: "I can't do it." our response was that it is okay if you can't do it, but you need to try first. Once you have put the effort into it and have failed, then we will help you.

All at once we are pushing these lessons:
1. Try to do something that you know is hard, even if you fail.
2. Try it first, then ask for help.
3. It is okay to ask for help, and we are happy to help, but only if you have tried.
4. It's okay to fail at something that you have put effort into.

CapnBlues: also, a "mushroom print" is sexual assault. so every post on this "blog" implies that the author of that post wishes sexual assault on the target of their invectives.

If I started a "I hope you get raped" blog, I'd be pilloried by society, possibly investigated by the authorities, and then shut down by just about anyone who would host that blog. Use a cute euphemism, though? now it's okay?

shame on fark.

Must be a chick...

ph0rk: dready zim: ph0rk: dready zim: SubBass49: More than likely the teacher said, "You're failing this class." It went through the "English to My-Snowflake-Is-A-Perfect-Angel" translator and came out as, "You're a horrible failure and will suck at life."

So, as a parent, what do you tell a kid who is honestly a horrible failure and will actually suck at life?

That is the parent's job.

FTFM

fark, I dunno. You're boned.

Hopefully it isn't a huge surprise and you've been able to work up to it over a few years of trying to keep their expectations realistic.

sounds like the opposite of TFA. Their kid should be in NASA and it`s the teachers fault if they don`t get there.

Famous Thamas: I am so glad I didn't follow the herd in college and sign up to be a teacher. I may be bored as hell dealing with executive temper tantrums and posting on Fark, but it has to be better than putting up with crap like this.

I worked for one school year at an elementary school as an IT guy, and in that year I experienced the following:

-Sick for six months straight
-Had a stapler thrown at my head
-taught kids how to Kamehameha
-Called a racist by the head of the PTA for disciplining her child
-Called a racist for asking someone to move her car while on Bus duty
-vomited on multiple times
-Realized I was one of two male employees, me and the janitor
-Called in to help restrain an out of control special needs kid, who then bit me hard enough to draw blood
-Hooked up with that unhappily married minx of a history teacher
-Chased a kid all over the neighborhood who took off during recess
-Learned that kindergarten is one of the most insane things in the world
-So many teachers are so very lonely
-Taught a 5th grader the basics of organic chemistry, which he used to make a kickass science fair project
-Unintentionally became the head of the non-teachers union

Retire at 50 with a gigantic taxpayer funded pension, summers off, immunity to job loss, always get what you ask for or you strike, and get it anyway.....

Did you just complain about getting laid?