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2012-04-10 12:13:05 AM

foo monkey: I'm genuinely surprised this whole mess hasn't resulted in riots.


Just wait. When Zimmerman gets acquitted, it'll be a mess. St. Pete will burn to the ground... again.
 
2012-04-10 12:13:07 AM
I just sent him him 50 dollars and 50 cents. I wouldve sent more but Im a millionaire and therefore poor from Obama taxing me. I still cant belive that this poor "Zimmer Man", literally a superhero, just defended himself against a thug and and is now being boned for it and has been turned into an outcast and public enemy #1 in the name of "racial harmony". What we should do is bone thugs and harmony would be soon to follow. Dont punish the victim. But the loonies on the far side of the Left are big punishers when it comes to defending yourself and want to make it illegal to pack heat. Face the facts, Traysongs was a juvenile delinkuint and thats just common sense. He listened to rap, he had a hoodie, clearly he was a gangstar and was up to something nasty snooping around that neiborhood. And I dont believe the liberal media saying he just had skittles or m&ms in his pocket. They proved by editing those tapes that they are most definitely NOT to be trusted. Bottom line is its about time for a nice tea party revolution and we know thugs when we see them just like we can spot you little whainy lib loosers from the Big Ls on your forehead. So are smith and wessons will make short work of these ghetto boys, almost too short,. And then Obama himself will be deported back to kanye and we will vote Eric Bolling for President of the White Heezy.
 
2012-04-10 12:13:48 AM

cman: Cubansaltyballs: cman: None yet

I wont defend this asshole (Zimmerman). All I want is for people to stop acting like assholes and let this man have the right to defend himself in a court. That is who we are. That is an American ideal, and people are so angry that they are shiatting all over his chance to hire a decent defense team.

He's not entitled to anything more than a public defender. Stop acting like he deserves anything. If he can't afford it on his own, tough f*cking cookies.

My god, man.

Sit back and take a deep breath. You are letting your emotions overcome your reasoning.

If someone wishes to solicit donations for a defense fund, why would you want to stop it? Are you afraid he would get a good defense team that the court of public opinion will not get the verdict it wants from the court of justice?


I am afraid he doesn't even need a defense fund since the cops have OJ'd this case. farking Dr. Nick Rivera could get reasonable doubt on this because the cops failed to collect evidence.
 
2012-04-10 12:13:48 AM

Sabyen91: foo monkey: I'm genuinely surprised this whole mess hasn't resulted in riots.

I am too. I am plenty riled and I am a white dude from rural Wisconsin.


What do you think about the racially motivated attacks at last year's Wisconsin State Fair?
 
2012-04-10 12:14:02 AM

BuckTurgidson: [img1.fark.net image 54x11]Sabyen91: I am beginning to think 9Beers is Drew.


BuckTurgidson: Sabyen91: BuckTurgidson: [Obvious.jpg] Sabyen91: I am beginning to think 9Beers is Drew.

He keeps these Trayvon threads going, that is for sure. Of course he also has an IQ of 7.5 Indeed.


No kidding:

9beers - 0. Everyone else - the rest of the available numbers.
 
2012-04-10 12:14:19 AM

9beers: chitlenz: Dude, just wow shut the fark up. All that hate is going to eat you man,

I'm the one hating? The people that need to shut up are the ones who want to try and convict a person based on speculations.


So it's wrong to convict someone based on speculation, but it's admirable to shoot someone based on speculation?

So if someone shot Zimmerman, you'd back them up right?
 
2012-04-10 12:14:37 AM
Man, talk about sloppy HTML! Whoever created that site should hide their avatar in shame.
 
2012-04-10 12:14:46 AM

vudukungfu: CygnusDarius: I'll just leave this here (new window).

FTFA:
"John Derbyshire Fired

The conservative magazine National Review has fired John Derbyshire, a prominent columnist who provoked outrage Friday with a column published in the webzine Taki's Magazine, which warned white people to avoid "large concentrations of blacks," among other nuggets of racially tinged advice."

N*GG**S
[R S T L E]

Go head.
Sayit.


There's a video out there with all the stuff this guy wrote. It's insane how, I think he was trying to "go with a bang", or just simply thought he could get away with it.
 
2012-04-10 12:14:49 AM

foo monkey: I'm genuinely surprised this whole mess hasn't resulted in riots.


inorite? could be everyone is waiting for the cops and george zimmerman to walk away from this debacle. then they'll be breaking into walmarts and costcos to get their 50 inch vizios.
 
2012-04-10 12:15:27 AM

Molavian: Sabyen91: foo monkey: I'm genuinely surprised this whole mess hasn't resulted in riots.

I am too. I am plenty riled and I am a white dude from rural Wisconsin.

What do you think about the racially motivated attacks at last year's Wisconsin State Fair?


Were they investigated? Were there arrests?

/The answer to both is yes so STFU.
 
2012-04-10 12:15:32 AM
So the whole page is nothing but quotes. Anyone seen bevets lately?
 
2012-04-10 12:15:32 AM

AeAe: 9beers: AeAe: Exactly. Martin was just going home after getting candy and tea. Talking to his girlfriend. Doing nothing wrong. And he was killed.

I don't understand how anyone can defend Zimmerman.


How do you know what he was or wasn't doing?

What I've heard in the news. He was going to his father's fiance's house. He was on the phone talking to his girlfriend.


i2.listal.com
 
2012-04-10 12:15:39 AM

Sabyen91: davidphogan: Sabyen91: Also the cops collected zero evidence. A trial now? Tainted to the point of pointlessness.

That's not fair. They collected plenty of witness statements, after they told the witnesses what to say.

If only the lead investigator were the only person that mattered this crime would have been investigated. Florida tag, indeed.


That's like blaming Jerry Sandusky for raping all those boys. If only JoPa had paid more attention he never would have gotten his dick in them. Or something like that.

/too soon?
 
2012-04-10 12:16:09 AM

Sabyen91: The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: How can people have such strong opinions when none of us really know what happened?

Do you mean how can people have such strong opinions when the crime was never investigated? My problem is the State Attorney shut down the investigation. You don't see a problem with that?


If that's true, it's an outrage.

But I gotta think that law enforcement types, prosecutors and the rest of that apparatus must know details that they've based their decisions on.
 
2012-04-10 12:16:21 AM

The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: How can people have such strong opinions when none of us really know what happened?


Because a 17 year old teenager was shot and killed doing nothing wrong, and the man that killed him was not arrested. That doesn't seem like something to feel strongly about?
 
2012-04-10 12:16:22 AM

AeAe: He was on the phone talking to his girlfriend.


As far as I know the local cops never even talked to her. And phone records prove he was talking to her.
 
2012-04-10 12:16:36 AM

StopArrestingMe: I just sent him him 50 dollars and 50 cents. I wouldve sent more but Im a millionaire and therefore poor from Obama taxing me. I still cant belive that this poor "Zimmer Man", literally a superhero, just defended himself against a thug and and is now being boned for it and has been turned into an outcast and public enemy #1 in the name of "racial harmony". What we should do is bone thugs and harmony would be soon to follow. Dont punish the victim. But the loonies on the far side of the Left are big punishers when it comes to defending yourself and want to make it illegal to pack heat. Face the facts, Traysongs was a juvenile delinkuint and thats just common sense. He listened to rap, he had a hoodie, clearly he was a gangstar and was up to something nasty snooping around that neiborhood. And I dont believe the liberal media saying he just had skittles or m&ms in his pocket. They proved by editing those tapes that they are most definitely NOT to be trusted. Bottom line is its about time for a nice tea party revolution and we know thugs when we see them just like we can spot you little whainy lib loosers from the Big Ls on your forehead. So are smith and wessons will make short work of these ghetto boys, almost too short,. And then Obama himself will be deported back to kanye and we will vote Eric Bolling for President of the White Heezy.


That was beautiful.
 
2012-04-10 12:16:37 AM

cryinoutloud: Wow, I just found out we have a stand your ground law in my state.

[28.media.tumblr.com image 436x272]

But we don't shoot each other for no reason around here, because we're not Florida.

/Ok, it's because there are no black people here.


I don't know why that map left out my state of Colorado - a gun-friendly, "make-my-day" castle-doctrine state in which there is no statutory provision regarding the duty of a person to retreat before countering the use of force with force.* Invade my home and I can execute you. But see, my understanding is, that doesn't mean I won't be arrested, charged, or prosecuted if I execute you in my home.

It means that in my TRIAL after I've been charged and those charges are being properly prosecuted, I (by which I mean my lawyer) can do my best to offer a make-my-day/stand-my-ground defense against my assault or homicide charge.

It doesn't mean on the day I execute you I simply tell whichever cops who show up, "hey I had to execute that one right there" and then we're all done.

* Oh, and in my state, "The common-law doctrine of retreat to the wall has been modified and is applicable in this jurisdiction only to cases where the defendant voluntarily enters into a fight, or the parties engage in mutual combat, or the defendant, being the assailant, does not endeavor in good faith to decline any further struggle before firing the fatal shot, and possibly to other similar cases." Which in Zimmerman's case would clearly be in question.
** Not applicable in Florida.
 
2012-04-10 12:16:51 AM

Sabyen91: I am afraid he doesn't even need a defense fund since the cops have OJ'd this case. farking Dr. Nick Rivera could get reasonable doubt on this because the cops failed to collect evidence.


The cops have gone full Delhomme on this one.
 
2012-04-10 12:16:52 AM

AeAe: What I've heard in the news. He was going to his father's fiance's house. He was on the phone talking to his girlfriend.


How do you know what he was doing when he was walking back from the store? A neighbor of Zimmerman recently gave an interview in which he mentioned a problem with people casing homes in the area. Zimmerman obviously saw Martin acting suspiciously which is the reason he called the police.
 
2012-04-10 12:17:08 AM

Weaver95:

can you disprove it?


4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-04-10 12:17:43 AM

Thrag: Sabyen91: cygnusx13: Raharu: 9beers: I sent 50 bucks earlier today.

Clearly that all adds up to him deserving to be shot and killed. I'll let you decide who "he" is.

I am beginning to think 9Beers is Drew.

Heh, it is amazing how he is able to spend seemingly every minute of every day posting in these threads. I don't even have time to read every thread, but if I open any of them from the last couple of week and ctrl+f '9beers' there is a mind boggling number of posts.

I've had programming jobs where I could get things done much faster than the deadlines given and could goof off on the internet what I consider to be an really excessive amount of time. Even on my laziest day I'd make maybe a few dozen usenet posts (this was a long time ago before fark). How can someone make what seems to be literally hundreds of posts a day for several consecutive days? That would involve not just slacking off on the internet during the entire work day, but literally every waking moment. How? And even more than how, why? What a pathetic existence it must be just to be able to dedicate such a ridiculous amount of time to this.


Dude, this IS his work. If you had 40 hours a week (minimum) could you spend them on Fark? I don't mean without going insane, I mean making dough.
 
2012-04-10 12:18:51 AM

9beers: How do you know what he was doing when he was walking back from the store? A neighbor of Zimmerman recently gave an interview in which he mentioned a problem with people casing homes in the area. Zimmerman obviously saw Martin acting suspiciously which is the reason he called the police.


I had a burrito once. In-N-Out burgers fries are good. I can't believe they're raising bus fares.
 
2012-04-10 12:18:56 AM

Cubansaltyballs: So it's wrong to convict someone based on speculation, but it's admirable to shoot someone based on speculation?


We have an eyewitness that same Martin assaulting Zimmerman, that's not speculation. Zimmerman claimed self defense, it's up to the law to prove otherwise.
 
2012-04-10 12:19:03 AM

Atomic Spunk: ghetto Geto boys


"This year halloween fell on a weekend
Me and geto boyz are trick-or-treating
Robbing little kids for bags
Till an old man got behind our ass
So we speeded up the pace
Took a look back and he was right before our face"
 
2012-04-10 12:20:22 AM

Cubansaltyballs: 9beers: chitlenz: Dude, just wow shut the fark up. All that hate is going to eat you man,

I'm the one hating? The people that need to shut up are the ones who want to try and convict a person based on speculations.

So it's wrong to convict someone based on speculation, but it's admirable to shoot someone based on speculation?

So if someone shot Zimmerman, you'd back them up right?


He also thinks "due process" means everybody in the world shouldn't have an opinion. I bet he also thinks the 1st amendment means one should not receive any consequences for saying something stupid.
 
2012-04-10 12:20:26 AM

Atomic Spunk: StopArrestingMe: I just sent him him 50 dollars and 50 cents. I wouldve sent more but Im a millionaire and therefore poor from Obama taxing me. I still cant belive that this poor "Zimmer Man", literally a superhero, just defended himself against a thug and and is now being boned for it and has been turned into an outcast and public enemy #1 in the name of "racial harmony". What we should do is bone thugs and harmony would be soon to follow. Dont punish the victim. But the loonies on the far side of the Left are big punishers when it comes to defending yourself and want to make it illegal to pack heat. Face the facts, Traysongs was a juvenile delinkuint and thats just common sense. He listened to rap, he had a hoodie, clearly he was a gangstar and was up to something nasty snooping around that neiborhood. And I dont believe the liberal media saying he just had skittles or m&ms in his pocket. They proved by editing those tapes that they are most definitely NOT to be trusted. Bottom line is its about time for a nice tea party revolution and we know thugs when we see them just like we can spot you little whainy lib loosers from the Big Ls on your forehead. So are smith and wessons will make short work of these ghetto boys, almost too short,. And then Obama himself will be deported back to kanye and we will vote Eric Bolling for President of the White Heezy.

That was beautiful.


Holy shiat, see 9beers THIS is trolling /golf clap
 
2012-04-10 12:20:28 AM

The Coroner of Munchkinland: For his next round of casuistry, 9beers is going to try and convince us that Zimmerman saved Martin from a lifetime of tooth decay or diabetes.


How do we know Zimmerman didn't save Martin from a lifetime of dealing with the pain and fatigue from sickle cell anemia? Zimmerman should be getting the Florence Nightingale award for humanitarianism. John Derbyshire will present it to him.
 
2012-04-10 12:20:43 AM

Thrag: Heh, it is amazing how he is able to spend seemingly every minute of every day posting in these threads. I don't even have time to read every thread, but if I open any of them from the last couple of week and ctrl+f '9beers' there is a mind boggling number of posts.


9beers typical day at work:

cdn.hometheaterforum.com
 
2012-04-10 12:20:43 AM

9beers: AeAe: What I've heard in the news. He was going to his father's fiance's house. He was on the phone talking to his girlfriend.

How do you know what he was doing when he was walking back from the store? A neighbor of Zimmerman recently gave an interview in which he mentioned a problem with people casing homes in the area. Zimmerman obviously saw Martin acting suspiciously which is the reason he called the police.


And if he stayed in his car like every neighborhood watch person is specifically instructed to do and the 911 operator specifically told him to do, he wouldn't have gotten beaten up and there wouldn't be a dead person.
 
2012-04-10 12:22:08 AM

The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: Sabyen91: The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: How can people have such strong opinions when none of us really know what happened?

Do you mean how can people have such strong opinions when the crime was never investigated? My problem is the State Attorney shut down the investigation. You don't see a problem with that?

If that's true, it's an outrage.

But I gotta think that law enforcement types, prosecutors and the rest of that apparatus must know details that they've based their decisions on.


The lead investigator didn't believe Zimmerman. He was shot down by the State's Attorney.
 
2012-04-10 12:22:40 AM

9beers: How do you know what he was doing when he was walking back from the store? A neighbor of Zimmerman recently gave an interview in which he mentioned a problem with people casing homes in the area. Zimmerman obviously saw Martin acting suspiciously which is the reason he called the police.


9beers: The streets in Sanford are safer with this violent thug off of them. Zimmerman deserved an award for his actions.
 
2012-04-10 12:22:43 AM

9beers: Cubansaltyballs: So it's wrong to convict someone based on speculation, but it's admirable to shoot someone based on speculation?

We have an eyewitness that same Martin assaulting Zimmerman, that's not speculation. Zimmerman claimed self defense, it's up to the law to prove otherwise.


But if Martin had a gun and shot Zimmerman, you'd be defending him... right?
 
2012-04-10 12:23:01 AM

12349876: And if he stayed in his car like every neighborhood watch person is specifically instructed to do and the 911 operator specifically told him to do, he wouldn't have gotten beaten up and there wouldn't be a dead person.


Did he break any laws by doing so?
 
2012-04-10 12:23:09 AM
I see he murders websites too.
 
2012-04-10 12:23:12 AM

AeAe: The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: How can people have such strong opinions when none of us really know what happened?

Because a 17 year old teenager was shot and killed doing nothing wrong, and the man that killed him was not arrested. That doesn't seem like something to feel strongly about?


I only that the poor kid was killed and the guy who pulled the trigger hasn't been prosecuted yet. Beyond that, I wasn't there and I'm unlikely to be on the jury if it goes to trial.

It's a tragedy no matter how you look at it, but I won't get fired up until the Law and Order people get through with their handling of the case.
 
2012-04-10 12:23:13 AM

9beers: So all of a sudden, people have to prove they didn't commit a crime?


If a person shoots and kills another person, and nobody doubts that person A shot person B, and it resulted in person B's death, and the cops have the weapon, the body, etc.....Does person A have to prove he didn't commit a crime?

In some states, asserting self-defense actually does shift the burden. In such states, person A would have to show that his use of deadly force was legal and justified per the laws in that jurisdiction.

Other states don't have burden-shifting (so the State still has to prove it was NOT self-defense,) but even in those states, the accused would have to establish the elements of justified homicide at trial to get a not-guilty verdict.

So technically, you are correct. You are innocent until proven guilty. But if you shoot and kill someone and nobody questions that you shot and killed someone, then suddenly you have some explaining to do, even in our justice system.
 
2012-04-10 12:23:13 AM

davidphogan: Sabyen91: I am afraid he doesn't even need a defense fund since the cops have OJ'd this case. farking Dr. Nick Rivera could get reasonable doubt on this because the cops failed to collect evidence.

The cops have gone full Delhomme on this one.


They do deserve the Jake for this.
 
2012-04-10 12:23:25 AM

CygnusDarius: I'll just leave this here (new window).


I'm I a bad person because I don't think that's horrible advice?
 
2012-04-10 12:23:47 AM
if you think Zimmerman is a card carrying right wing tearpartard pls come up and claim your ...oh wait!

freebeacon.com

Link (new window)
 
2012-04-10 12:23:50 AM
Man... Packing heat, chasing people around, shooting them, when they turn and are like what the fark dude? Like a cop but not! What a farking rush!
 
2012-04-10 12:24:25 AM

Cubansaltyballs: But if Martin had a gun and shot Zimmerman, you'd be defending him... right?


Shooting somebody who didn't pose a threat? Why in hell would I support him?
 
2012-04-10 12:24:45 AM

Sabyen91: The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: How can people have such strong opinions when none of us really know what happened?

Do you mean how can people have such strong opinions when the crime was never investigated? My problem is the State Attorney shut down the investigation. You don't see a problem with that?


Everything you just stated is bullshiat. The police were investigating at the scene for seven hours after the shooting and questioned many people that night and the next day. They also brought Zimmerman in and questioned him for five hours and gave him a voice stress test. Also your talking point about one of the investigators wanting to charge Zimmerman but being overridden by that state attorney is a fabrication created by the Martin's attorney. There was a press release saying as much but all Trayvon stuff has been removed from the Sanford PD's website by request of the special prosecutor.
 
2012-04-10 12:25:12 AM

9beers: I'm the one hating? The people that need to shut up are the ones who want to try and convict a person based on speculations.


But you've made it clear that you feel Martin got exactly what he deserved...based on what exactly?

The jewelry was not linked to anything stolen.

A text from his brother speculating that he struck a bus driver - hearsay.

And Rahahu's post was very telling.

Don't worry your pretty little head though, in court, Zimmerman's past will be barred from the hearing by a motion in limine' while Trayvon will not enjoy that same protection. He'll be drug through the mud, with little to no regard for facts in front of a jury. The defense will use words like "alleged" to mask the untruths. It's called victim blaming. And since an unarmed teenager walking in his dad's neighborhood is dead, I'd safely say he is a victim.

The sad thing is that the law, in this case, will most likely protect Zimmerman too, so your wet little dream will burst all over your spiderman sheets. That boy will have gotten exactly what you think he should have gotten and your hero Zimmerman will have gotten his accolades.

But I guess you are just fine with Trayvon being tried, convicted and executed by a civilian with a gun.

Nobody is even saying Zimmerman doesn't deserve a fair trial, and deserve to have all the facts presented and if the evidence backs his claims, well then justice will be served.

The police faked up any chance of a conclusive trial and uncovering the truth though and the media has poisoned everybody else.
 
2012-04-10 12:25:13 AM

SuperNinjaToad: if you think Zimmerman is a card carrying right wing tearpartard pls come up and claim your ...oh wait!

[freebeacon.com image 540x220]

Link (new window)


TBH assholes are in both parties. This is not a left v right thing.
 
2012-04-10 12:25:20 AM
Shorter 9beers: If everyone would wait until all the facts are in,before jumping to conclusions we would all see that the concerned citizen obviously saved the world from a dusky-hued thug who was probably on the way to rape and murder.
 
2012-04-10 12:25:39 AM

9beers: 12349876: And if he stayed in his car like every neighborhood watch person is specifically instructed to do and the 911 operator specifically told him to do, he wouldn't have gotten beaten up and there wouldn't be a dead person.

Did he break any laws by doing so?


Strictly speaking, Martin had as much right to self-defense and to stand his ground as Zimmerman did.

If you follow me while I'm walking and try to attack me or stop me, you're getting an ass-kicking.
 
2012-04-10 12:25:44 AM

SuperNinjaToad: if you think Zimmerman is a card carrying right wing tearpartard pls come up and claim your ...oh wait!

[freebeacon.com image 540x220]

Link (new window)


Great blog....
 
2012-04-10 12:26:07 AM

9beers: 12349876: And if he stayed in his car like every neighborhood watch person is specifically instructed to do and the 911 operator specifically told him to do, he wouldn't have gotten beaten up and there wouldn't be a dead person.

Did he break any laws by doing so?


Stand your ground does not mean stalk someone and pick a fight. So yes.
 
2012-04-10 12:26:20 AM

MoeSzyslak: Sabyen91: The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: How can people have such strong opinions when none of us really know what happened?

Do you mean how can people have such strong opinions when the crime was never investigated? My problem is the State Attorney shut down the investigation. You don't see a problem with that?

Everything you just stated is bullshiat. The police were investigating at the scene for seven hours after the shooting and questioned many people that night and the next day. They also brought Zimmerman in and questioned him for five hours and gave him a voice stress test. Also your talking point about one of the investigators wanting to charge Zimmerman but being overridden by that state attorney is a fabrication created by the Martin's attorney. There was a press release saying as much but all Trayvon stuff has been removed from the Sanford PD's website by request of the special prosecutor.


Everything you just said was bullshiat.
 
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