Average regular gasoline price when Bush left office: $1.84

Average regular gasoline price as of April 2, 2012: $3.94

There's only two towns on the island and the island is small enough you can bike the whole thing lengthwise in 4 hours if you're an 80 year old grandma. Why the hell would you drive?

ashinmytomatoes: Yeah. I have a long commute (56 miles, one way) and hate that it costs what it does. If it did get up to $7 here, I would have to move closer to work (even though I don't want to).

Heh, if you're pulling a 56 mile one-way commute on Catalina Island, you're going to your next door neighbor's house taking the beachead all the way around the island to do it.

Thunderpipes: mongbiohazard: Dear Jerk:
Actually, studies have been done that show people with money are generally more happy than those without.

Then I must be the exception to the rule. I have absolute squat, but have learned to be happy and content with what I do have.

I have a cousin who came from a very well-to-do family and she was spoiled to the core and 40 years later, despite all the money and the latest high-tech toys, is utterly miserable.

Unhip1: Yeah, because they don't have electric powered golf carts and bicycles to get around in.

Yeah. I guess they have no choice but to pay.

This.

You don't need a car on that island.

Trance750: Thunderpipes: mongbiohazard: Dear Jerk:
Actually, studies have been done that show people with money are generally more happy than those without.

Then I must be the exception to the rule. I have absolute squat, but have learned to be happy and content with what I do have.

I have a cousin who came from a very well-to-do family and she was spoiled to the core and 40 years later, despite all the money and the latest high-tech toys, is utterly miserable.


I'm pretty sure there are also a good number of reputable studies which basically say that money buys happiness - only up to a certain point. That once the basic needs are covered more money has rapidly diminishing returns when it comes to happiness.

dosboot: Average regular gasoline price when Bush left office: $1.84

Average regular gasoline price as of April 2, 2012: $3.94

Right, because the President of the United States controls the market, but we all knew that anyway, we read it on Fark.

correlation = causation

dosboot: Average regular gasoline price when Bush left office: $1.84

Average regular gasoline price as of April 2, 2012: $3.94

DAMN YOU FARTDINGO

jayphat:
No Such Agency: How about... you move where the gasoline is?

Greatest line I think I have ever heard come from a comedian.

Actually, Kinison's a douche of staggering proportions for using the very real problems of starving, war-terrorized Africans for mean-spirited lulz. Never understood the appeal of that kind of "comedy".

TwowheelinTim: dosboot: Average regular gasoline price when Bush left office: $1.84

Average regular gasoline price as of April 2, 2012: $3.94

Right, because the President of the United States controls the market, but we all knew that anyway, we read it on Fark.

correlation = causation

When Bush was in office, the "high" gasoline prices were his fault according to many on Fark.
Now that Obama is in office: "Look over there. Noting to see here"

"If drilling [in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge] were approved today, it would be ten years before oil arrived in refineries." - Sierra Magazine, January-February issue, 2002.

dosboot: When Bush was in office, the "high" gasoline prices were his fault according to many on Fark.
Now that Obama is in office: "Look over there. Noting to see here"


And when Bush was in office many here on Fark also said that Bush was NOT at fault for high gas prices - because the POTUS doesn't control the global petrochemical markets. I was one of those people, and I voted for Bush twice.

So why do you feel the need to cherry-pick opinions to support a chosen narrative in lieu of actually rationally reasoning out the real facts of the matter?

mongbiohazard: Trance750: Thunderpipes: mongbiohazard: Dear Jerk:
Actually, studies have been done that show people with money are generally more happy than those without.

Then I must be the exception to the rule. I have absolute squat, but have learned to be happy and content with what I do have.

I have a cousin who came from a very well-to-do family and she was spoiled to the core and 40 years later, despite all the money and the latest high-tech toys, is utterly miserable.


I'm pretty sure there are also a good number of reputable studies which basically say that money buys happiness - only up to a certain point. That once the basic needs are covered more money has rapidly diminishing returns when it comes to happiness.

Perhaps, but what happens when the novelty wears off and it becomes just another 'thing' taking up space?

mongbiohazard: dosboot: When Bush was in office, the "high" gasoline prices were his fault according to many on Fark.
Now that Obama is in office: "Look over there. Noting to see here"


And when Bush was in office many here on Fark also said that Bush was NOT at fault for high gas prices - because the POTUS doesn't control the global petrochemical markets. I was one of those people, and I voted for Bush twice.

So why do you feel the need to cherry-pick opinions to support a chosen narrative in lieu of actually rationally reasoning out the real facts of the matter?

You must have missed the whole "Blame Bush" meme. Or perhaps you suffer from Selective Memory Syndrome.

Either way, welcome back to reality....or not.

Trance750: Perhaps, but what happens when the novelty wears off and it becomes just another 'thing' taking up space?


What thing?

If you're talking about some luxury item... as I was saying, we've had some studies linked here which found that more money has diminishing returns when it comes to happiness. Basically, you get much happier as you earn more and more money - right up to the point where you stop being poverty-stricken and start making enough to take care of basic needs. After that, more money increases people's happiness by diminishing amounts... so basically lots more money doesn't equate to lots more happy. The effect dies off after your normal needs are met.

WAAHH When capitalism benefits me I like it and the government better stay out. But when it dosen't the government better step in and give me free stuff. We are a spoiled spoiled group of people.

dosboot: mongbiohazard: dosboot: When Bush was in office, the "high" gasoline prices were his fault according to many on Fark.
Now that Obama is in office: "Look over there. Noting to see here"


And when Bush was in office many here on Fark also said that Bush was NOT at fault for high gas prices - because the POTUS doesn't control the global petrochemical markets. I was one of those people, and I voted for Bush twice.

So why do you feel the need to cherry-pick opinions to support a chosen narrative in lieu of actually rationally reasoning out the real facts of the matter?

You must have missed the whole "Blame Bush" meme. Or perhaps you suffer from Selective Memory Syndrome.

Either way, welcome back to reality....or not.

Rules of Fark Politics:

If you like The President, it's not his fault

If you dislike The President, it is his fault

dosboot: You must have missed the whole "Blame Bush" meme. Or perhaps you suffer from Selective Memory Syndrome.

Either way, welcome back to reality....or not.


Neither. I've just got enough perspective to recognize that Bush Derangement Syndrome has been traded for Obama Derangement Syndrome. The unpersuadable come in all flavors (all shiatty).

What you didn't seem to want to acknowledge though, is that at all times opinions have differed and have not been monolithic - an uncomfortable truth which belies the narrative you were asserting. I was personally one of those people who proves your chosen narrative false.

You don't need to welcome me back to reality, I never left it. If you're trying to blame Obama for high gas prices - and credit Bush for lower ones - can you say the same?

Trance750: dosboot: mongbiohazard: dosboot: When Bush was in office, the "high" gasoline prices were his fault according to many on Fark.
Now that Obama is in office: "Look over there. Noting to see here"


And when Bush was in office many here on Fark also said that Bush was NOT at fault for high gas prices - because the POTUS doesn't control the global petrochemical markets. I was one of those people, and I voted for Bush twice.

So why do you feel the need to cherry-pick opinions to support a chosen narrative in lieu of actually rationally reasoning out the real facts of the matter?

You must have missed the whole "Blame Bush" meme. Or perhaps you suffer from Selective Memory Syndrome.

Either way, welcome back to reality....or not.

Rules of Fark Politics:

If you like The President, it's not his fault

If you dislike The President, it is his fault


I'm not a huge fan of Obama, and in fact I've never once voted for a Democrat for POTUS since my first election when I cast a vote for Dole. My feelings on the matter however don't change the facts. Our like or dislike of a person doesn't change whether they are in reality responsible for something or not.

A lesson that is sorely in need of sinking in with some. And just because a vocal minority will ALWAYS go batshiat crazy and get ______ Derangement Syndrome over a politician they dislike doesn't mean that's what people on Fark agree with. That's just dosboot's attempt to create a false narrative which feeds his - sadly all too common - partisan persecution complex. You really don't need to feed it.

Trance750: Rules of Fark Politics:

If you like The President, it's not his fault

If you dislike The President, it is his fault


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When I lived on the island I put spinners on my golf cart, that gave me way better gas mileage.... Filled up my 8 gallon tank once a week. Would cruise and cruise and cruise in the golf cart. Usually going the wrong way down a one way, cart chuck full of girls and booze, on cruise around the fish bowl.

/You have never off roaded till you take a golf cart down Riten mine road.
// Catalina is a cool place full of ghost stories and ancient legends
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Baloo Uriza: Obviously you have never been to Catalina. Biking across the island takes a world class athlete a full day to bike 1/2 the island.

Dont open your mouth when you dont know what your talking about. It only makes you look retarded.

Maybe if they converted their cars to run on some mixture of catsup and sugar.

Baloo Uriza: ashinmytomatoes: Yeah. I have a long commute (56 miles, one way) and hate that it costs what it does. If it did get up to $7 here, I would have to move closer to work (even though I don't want to).

Heh, if you're pulling a 56 mile one-way commute on Catalina Island, you're going to your next door neighbor's house taking the beachead all the way around the island to do it.

Ha! I'm sorry I probably wasn't clear. I don't live on Catalina. I live in Louisiana, where gas in considerably less expensive but still pricey given my commute. I do envy those who can live on Catalina.

mongbiohazard: Trance750: Perhaps, but what happens when the novelty wears off and it becomes just another 'thing' taking up space?


What thing?

If you're talking about some luxury item... as I was saying, we've had some studies linked here which found that more money has diminishing returns when it comes to happiness. Basically, you get much happier as you earn more and more money - right up to the point where you stop being poverty-stricken and start making enough to take care of basic needs. After that, more money increases people's happiness by diminishing amounts... so basically lots more money doesn't equate to lots more happy. The effect dies off after your normal needs are met.

I was talking about people who feel the need to 'find happiness' with material posessions and are never happy with what they have, and are always looking for more 'stuff' to make them happy.

I have a relative like that. Whenever she is upset, or depressed (which is often), she'll go to the mall on a shopping binge trying to 'buy happiness'. Then once the newness of the merchendise wears off, she's right back to where she started from

SnoCone

Yes it is!

/that is why the natives built boats not bikes

Trance750: mongbiohazard: Trance750: Perhaps, but what happens when the novelty wears off and it becomes just another 'thing' taking up space?


What thing?

If you're talking about some luxury item... as I was saying, we've had some studies linked here which found that more money has diminishing returns when it comes to happiness. Basically, you get much happier as you earn more and more money - right up to the point where you stop being poverty-stricken and start making enough to take care of basic needs. After that, more money increases people's happiness by diminishing amounts... so basically lots more money doesn't equate to lots more happy. The effect dies off after your normal needs are met.

I was talking about people who feel the need to 'find happiness' with material posessions and are never happy with what they have, and are always looking for more 'stuff' to make them happy.

I have a relative like that. Whenever she is upset, or depressed (which is often), she'll go to the mall on a shopping binge trying to 'buy happiness'. Then once the newness of the merchendise wears off, she's right back to where she started from


Ah yes, the old treating the symptom and not the disease...


Mcaffolder: Baloo Uriza: Obviously you have never been to Catalina. Biking across the island takes a world class athlete a full day to bike 1/2 the island.

Dont open your mouth when you dont know what your talking about. It only makes you look retarded.


A world class athlete needs a full day to bike 11 miles? You sure about that?

The island is only 22 miles long from tip to tip, and 8 miles wide at it's widest. It's not all that big of a place, and that small island has 200 miles of roads! It doesn't take me all day to bike 11 miles of roads, and I'm certainly no "world class athlete". Perhaps, just perhaps, you're embellishing things a bit, hmmmnnn?

Hmmm, even given the fact that Catalina is only accessible by ferry, $7 still seems a bit steep: I found the per gallon price of gasoline on two islands accessible only via ferry (Ocracoke, NC and Washington Island, WI) and prices there hovered around $4 a gallon according to Gas Buddy...

No Such Agency: How about... you move where the gasoline is?

Do you mean the California Coast?!?

mongbiohazard:
The island is only 22 miles long from tip to tip, and 8 miles wide at it's widest. It's not all that big of a place, and that small island has 200 miles of roads! It doesn't take me all day to bike 11 miles of roads, and I'm certainly no "world class athlete". Perhaps, just perhaps, you're embellishing things a bit, hmmmnnn?

No, he's not. The thing you're not taking in to account is that while the distance may be short as the crow flies, it's not when you consider that Catalina is like a mini mountain range. To take a cab from Avalon to the "airport in the sky" takes about 45 minutes - and that's a six mile trip. To get from the beach area to Hamilton Cove in a golf cart is about 15 minutes, and that's about two miles. If you were biking or walking it, you basically go up hill on switchbacks the entire way up. Most of the apartment complexes, which is where the vast majority of residents live, are up on the hill, not down on the beach front area of town. Had you ever been there or even seen pictures of it, you wouldn't be thinking there's any embellishment going on.

This pic is too big to put here, but take a look at it and tell me you want to bike from the Green Pier to the top of the island.

Linky-poppy

What about creepy girl?

FilmBELOH20: mongbiohazard:
The island is only 22 miles long from tip to tip, and 8 miles wide at it's widest. It's not all that big of a place, and that small island has 200 miles of roads! It doesn't take me all day to bike 11 miles of roads, and I'm certainly no "world class athlete". Perhaps, just perhaps, you're embellishing things a bit, hmmmnnn?

No, he's not. The thing you're not taking in to account is that while the distance may be short as the crow flies, it's not when you consider that Catalina is like a mini mountain range. To take a cab from Avalon to the "airport in the sky" takes about 45 minutes - and that's a six mile trip. To get from the beach area to Hamilton Cove in a golf cart is about 15 minutes, and that's about two miles. If you were biking or walking it, you basically go up hill on switchbacks the entire way up. Most of the apartment complexes, which is where the vast majority of residents live, are up on the hill, not down on the beach front area of town. Had you ever been there or even seen pictures of it, you wouldn't be thinking there's any embellishment going on.

This pic is too big to put here, but take a look at it and tell me you want to bike from the Green Pier to the top of the island.

Linky-poppy


Holy shiat snacks. OK, yeah, now I understand what he was talking about - and I stand corrected. Even with fairly rough terrain I'd think he'd have been exaggerating - but that's not rough terrain, that's a freakin' mountain!

If I lived there I'd want a boat and an ATV.

Marcintosh: 1%er problems. No interest, sorry

This.

What a car on an small island might look like.

Just sell your car,



obscure? Fark, I am dissapoint

Uchiha_Cycliste: Ok Farkers... I have been suspecting for some time that all of the "compound" scenes in Crank 2 were either filmed on Catalina or in Laguna Beach. What say you all?

People try to avoid shooting on Catalina at all costs unless they specifically need the shot to look like Catalina. The Island Company are a bunch of greedy farks that make even the people in Hollywood look like less greedy farks than them. Film permits on the island are stupid expensive, so I would guess Laguna.

/have not seen the movie

Mcaffolder: Baloo Uriza: Obviously you have never been to Catalina. Biking across the island takes a world class athlete a full day to bike 1/2 the island.

Dont open your mouth when you dont know what your talking about. It only makes you look retarded.

Actually, I have. And I learned something from your statement: A stoned, somewhat out of shape bicycle commuter used to Portland's hills now qualifies as "world class athlete."

JNowe: They say it's unscropolous!

I see what you did there, you magnificent MST3K-watching bastard!

SpaceBison: What about creepy girl?
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I smell a song comin' on!

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