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Think that was my mistake. I originally submitted as "Boobies" on accident. Probably didn't get changed back.

/taking the hit

Oh yeah, this girl does a mean pikachu as well.....I don't think it's NSFW (new window)

Who were the idiots complaining? Soccer moms? Why are they even at PAX? boo

Meh, I can see the point. Booth babes have a reputation of being all boobs, no brains with their product. If PAX has the rule, then that's the rule. Sugartits will have to deal with it.

That being said, I'd throw my pokingballs at the blonde Pikachu (Basemetal's post)

Roook: Who were the idiots complaining?

Same thing I was wondering. Come to DragonCon or GenCon or ComicCon and you'll see a LOT more risque stuff than that without anyone complaining.

They'd probably make Lara Croft wear a burkha

About the only people I can think of that would complain might be the one or two guys there who are prudish enough to not like it (and that's a generous number), but it was probably other girls who were butthurt that this broad was getting more attention than they were. Then again, there are also parents who bring their kids to PAX, but if they're complaining about boobs when there is plenty of violence and bloodshed in the games being hawked then...well, they're probably Americans.

That's the kinda lady I would like to see walking down a dark alleyway close to where i am

I have a feeling the bottom of the costume may have looked like this.....PNSFW (new window)

I don't see any problem with the top of the costume

"Ultimately the costume policy is designed to keep the show family friendly, as we see a good number of parents being their young children to the show," Khoo said.

That's a new twist on cosplay.

I've never quite understood this along with the "it's a family convention bit", since the same rules do *not* apply to the attendees.

To wit:

Acceptable (from G4's PAX East 2012 gallery):



Not acceptable (girl in the middle in the costume for Lollipop Chainsaw that she was doing at PAX East, since she's their official model for the character):



I like a lot of things about Penny Arcade, but their weird stance on this isn't one of them.

Ooops, meant to post this one:

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Meh, I can see the point. Booth babes have a reputation of being all boobs, no brains with their product. If PAX has the rule, then that's the rule. Sugartits will have to deal with it.

That being said, I'd throw my pokingballs at the blonde Pikachu (Basemetal's post)

Brains are what men are for

I approve.

Durendal: About the only people I can think of that would complain might be the one or two guys there who are prudish enough to not like it (and that's a generous number), but it was probably other girls who were butthurt that this broad was getting more attention than they were. Then again, there are also parents who bring their kids to PAX, but if they're complaining about boobs when there is plenty of violence and bloodshed in the games being hawked then...well, they're probably Americans.

Nah, there's plenty of male PA fans that are weird about this, too. It's a weird mix of repression along with White Knight Syndrome. They'll actually walk around the exhibition floor and tweet pictures of girls they think are "out of line" to the PAX twitter feed.

I'm a little confused - is she a cosplay girl or a paid model for a game company? if she's a paid model, then yeah - penny arcade has had a pretty clear policy about NOT having 'booth babes' on the convention floor. And if she's a 'regular' cosplay girl then she's really pushing the limits on cosplay and stripping. she's got the body for it, don't get me wrong. but...c'mon. that pink outfit was more appropriate on a porn set than at a game show.

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Durendal: About the only people I can think of that would complain might be the one or two guys there who are prudish enough to not like it (and that's a generous number), but it was probably other girls who were butthurt that this broad was getting more attention than they were. Then again, there are also parents who bring their kids to PAX, but if they're complaining about boobs when there is plenty of violence and bloodshed in the games being hawked then...well, they're probably Americans.

Nah, there's plenty of male PA fans that are weird about this, too. It's a weird mix of repression along with White Knight Syndrome. They'll actually walk around the exhibition floor and tweet pictures of girls they think are "out of line" to the PAX twitter feed.

THEY MUST BE PURGED!

Weaver95: I'm a little confused - is she a cosplay girl or a paid model for a game company? if she's a paid model, then yeah - penny arcade has had a pretty clear policy about NOT having 'booth babes' on the convention floor. And if she's a 'regular' cosplay girl then she's really pushing the limits on cosplay and stripping. she's got the body for it, don't get me wrong. but...c'mon. that pink outfit was more appropriate on a porn set than at a game show.

Actually, the policy is that they need to know something about the game, but if they do, they can dress skimpily so long as its of a character in the game they're promoting.

The cosplayer in question is their official cosplayer for the game and was wearing this (this is actually her):



Not the weird plunging thing in the Kotaku article.

Basically, PAX's policy on this is "whatever Khoo decides." Which is fine, it's their Con, but their excuse about it to make the convention more "family friendly" doesn't hold up under scrutiny, since the costume prohibitions don't apply to attendees.

I agree with one of the posts on that website. I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Basically, PAX's policy on this is "whatever Khoo decides." Which is fine, it's their Con, but their excuse about it to make the convention more "family friendly" doesn't hold up under scrutiny, since the costume prohibitions don't apply to attendees.

i'm sorry but I find myself distracted by the nearly non-existent pink outfit to continue this discussion in a rational manner.

cretinbob: I have a feeling the bottom of the costume may have looked like this

The full pic indicates not really, no.

Weaver95: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Basically, PAX's policy on this is "whatever Khoo decides." Which is fine, it's their Con, but their excuse about it to make the convention more "family friendly" doesn't hold up under scrutiny, since the costume prohibitions don't apply to attendees.

i'm sorry but I find myself distracted by the nearly non-existent pink outfit to continue this discussion in a rational manner.

She's a distracting lady, that's for sure.

I don't have an issue with either outfit. She's holding a gigantic chainsaw, and the game is cartoonishly violent: Not a farking peep. But a real life woman shows a little skin (yes, the front cut out is huge, but the rest of her body is completely covered...you see more on a bilboard in Times Square) and everyone freaks the hell out. Family Friednly = all the blood and gore imaginable, but make sure that slut keeps covered up? Utter bullshiat.

This is just another extension of America not being totally comfortable with women and their sexuality. A male model hired to cosplay He-Man would have been more revealing, and no one would have batted an eye.

Grables'Daughter: Good lord.

That costume is fine.

and very distracting.

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I agree with one of the posts on that website. I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

Oh, and to an extent, I agree.

My only hope is that when the pendulum swings back (the obsession, or phobia thereof, of sexuality in the US is only relatively recent, say since the late 19th century), I'll be alive and functional enough to enjoy it without having to go to a strip club.

So this cosplay is just like 5000% AW'ing right?

as far as cosplay goes - THIS still beats them all:



and no, that's not a photshop.

Weaver95: as far as cosplay goes - THIS still beats them all:

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and no, that's not a photshop.

The Bioshock cosplayers, in general, tend to go all out. That's one of a number of amazing Big Daddy / Little Sister / Big Sister cosplays I've seen.

It's weird to see PA staff mentioned in a news article. Tycho always ribs on this "Robert" fellow, and here he's being all serious and shiat. Like he has a job to do or something.

I don't see a problem with the pics. I didn't realize PAX was full of prudes.

/never been
//kinda wanta, but very shy

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: The cosplayer in question is their official cosplayer for the game and was wearing this (this is actually her):

www.obviouswinner.com

Not the weird plunging thing in the Kotaku article.

Well per the article, she was wearing the pink costume yesterday when she was first asked to change the costume or leave. She was wearing the cheerleader outfit today when they gave her the same ultimatum due to the number of complaints.

abb3w: cretinbob: I have a feeling the bottom of the costume may have looked like this

The full pic indicates not really, no.

Well....that's too bad.....

Grables'Daughter: The My Little Pony Killer: casual disregard: I don't see a problem with the pics. I didn't realize PAX was full of prudes.

This. There were young ladies in little more than bikinis at ECCC and that's a family friendly convention.

The article said that there were lots of complaints.

Huh.

that could be a bit misleading tho - one or two people just cranking out the complaints can really rack up the score. that's how focus on the family manages to trick everyone into thinking that they're bigger than they really are.

Don't come around here looking all sexy and shiat.

Grables'Daughter: The article said that there were lots of complaints



//how many is "lots"?

ShawnDoc: Well per the article, she was wearing the pink costume yesterday when she was first asked to change the costume or leave. She was wearing the cheerleader outfit today when they gave her the same ultimatum due to the number of complaints.

Even if accurate, if the plunging thing is accurate to the game, by their own rules, she should be fine (are there alternate costumes for her in Lollipop Chainsaw?).

Grables'Daughter: The My Little Pony Killer: casual disregard: I don't see a problem with the pics. I didn't realize PAX was full of prudes.

This. There were young ladies in little more than bikinis at ECCC and that's a family friendly convention.

The article said that there were lots of complaints.

Huh.

At PAX Prime I had a search up in Tweetdeck for such things last year. There's a number of attendees who make it their mission to complain about such things.

One complained that the skimpily dressed models were "pandering". An odd complaint from a person who, odds are, isn't exactly one to be complaining about the female attention levels he gets on a regular basis.

When they did the survey on the forums, they basically only got the opinions of the people who, y'know, read the Penny Arcade PAX forum. That's a pretty small sample size, and in the ensuing thread there were plenty of folks who argued that it was a stupid policy.

Part of me thinks that Kara and Brenna had something to do with getting the tip of the spear in on this one, frankly, and then their, social-justice-wanky female staffers that they tend to hire (sorry, the "strong women" they tend to hire) have probably reinforced the issue. It seems like Gabe and Tycho tend to be fairly passive and submissive around women that they engage in real life from what I've read.

cretinbob: Grables'Daughter: The article said that there were lots of complaints

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//how many is "lots"?

I wonder if Lots was not referring to absolute quantit y but was referring to a quantity of dog packs

Grables'Daughter: The article said that there were lots of complaints.

Huh.

probably just people who were jealous.


/partially kidding, partially not.

Grables'Daughter: cretinbob: Grables'Daughter: The article said that there were lots of complaints

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//how many is "lots"?

So, if I am understanding you guys correctly, you are saying that there were only a couple of people that complained about this poor girl. The people that complained weren't in the majority at all, but the people that ran the convention ran her off because of a handful of sticks in the mud.

welcome to the dark side of cosplay.

Weaver95: Grables'Daughter: cretinbob: Grables'Daughter: The article said that there were lots of complaints

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//how many is "lots"?

So, if I am understanding you guys correctly, you are saying that there were only a couple of people that complained about this poor girl. The people that complained weren't in the majority at all, but the people that ran the convention ran her off because of a handful of sticks in the mud.

welcome to the dark side of cosplay.

Cosplay is incredibly catty competitive in some genres (read: anime), so there's that dark side.

In this case, though, I think it's more the fact that PAX has a weird population of gamers who simply are super uncomfortable with sexuality in general, and since they can't sanitize the whole Con, they focused it on the exhibitor cosplayers instead, under the guise of it somehow being "beneath" the atmosphere of a Gaming Convention For Gamers by Gamers.