It's wrong to point out this all spiraled out of control and happened under the previous administration (the budget for the 2010 party was submitted in 2008) because.... it's true?

I just wonder how far this "Oh sure, blame BUSH) false argument carries. Are we to pretend the past just doesn't exist?

I don't personally blame Bush. But it was his inspector general choice that missed this for years.

Who's to blame for a 2010 government "conference" in Las Vegas that was basically a taxpayer-funded fark party?

The rain, as per the ruling of The People V. Milli Vanilli.

MisterTweak: Eddie Adams from Torrance: It's farking 2012. When are you libtards going to stop blaming Bush for the failures of his administration?

Same answer you'd give to a child who keeps leaving dirty laundry in their room: "When I stop finding it".

All fine and dandy, except you kicked the child out of the house two years ago.

/maybe those are someone else's panties?

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Who's to blame for a 2010 government "conference" in Las Vegas that was basically a taxpayer-funded fark party?

The rain, as per the ruling of The People V. Milli Vanilli.

Well actually, in the case of Jamie Foxx v. Nevada, that previous ruling was overturned. We must blame it on the alcohol.

I Have The Touch of a Shocked Monkey: Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Who's to blame for a 2010 government "conference" in Las Vegas that was basically a taxpayer-funded fark party?

The rain, as per the ruling of The People V. Milli Vanilli.

Well actually, in the case of Jamie Foxx v. Nevada, that previous ruling was overturned. We must blame it on the alcohol.

If the case of The People v. Eydie Gormé is accepted as the law of the land, it is a moral imperative to blame it on the bossa nova.

The fact that they had an awful rap parody basically admitting they were wasting money and would never be caught, everyone should be mad. Every attendee who didn't report the largesse should be fired.

Cataholic: MisterTweak: Eddie Adams from Torrance: It's farking 2012. When are you libtards going to stop blaming Bush for the failures of his administration?

Same answer you'd give to a child who keeps leaving dirty laundry in their room: "When I stop finding it".

All fine and dandy, except you kicked the child out of the house two years ago.

/maybe those are someone else's panties?

Yeah, but he left a pile of underwear spread across this and two foreign countries, that cost over one trillion dollars to accumulate and soil. Before he left he gave the washing machine away to the rich neighbors and left us with a cardboard box and he wrote "Werl Pool" on it.

Obama knew, but did not do*!


*anything about it


/don't care.

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: I Have The Touch of a Shocked Monkey: Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Who's to blame for a 2010 government "conference" in Las Vegas that was basically a taxpayer-funded fark party?

The rain, as per the ruling of The People V. Milli Vanilli.

Well actually, in the case of Jamie Foxx v. Nevada, that previous ruling was overturned. We must blame it on the alcohol.

If the case of The People v. Eydie Gormé is accepted as the law of the land, it is a moral imperative to blame it on the bossa nova.

We all know what the cause of all this trouble is. . .

Don't worry, guys. Darrell Issa is on the job, looking out for all of us.

So long as it makes the Democrat look bad.

In the lyrics, the employee sings: "Donate my vacation, love to the nation, I'll never be under OIG investigation."

Word.

I can't get that outraged until I'm convinced there's a material difference between wasting tax dollars directly on government employee shenanigans, and setting government policies that force Americans to spend more to get what should be non-profit government services from for-profit contractors whose only customer is the government and who are free to throw all the parties they want for their employees and executives.

Note to the current administration: Two wrongs don't make a right.

Blaming Bush for the Economy melting down is based in fact.

But it was Obama's Administration directly responsible for the government oversight that lapsed here. Blaming Bush for that is lame.

Especially after 3 years of a farked global economy where basic government services are being cut, to have some clueless bureaucrat think an $800,000 convention is by any means acceptable shows one person who truly did not get the message. But that message is set by and sent by Obama.

Bush was almost 100% responsible for the economy melting down, but Obama is the person to look at here.

That said, how quickly do we blow through $800,000 in Afghanistan?

I'd like to see stopping that waste of funds be given a much higher priority than this idiocy.

Okay, it was a 2010 conference and not a 2012 conference.

That still means a Trumanesque Obama would take the blame.

But if there were Bush holdovers in the department, then I'd say fark them with a stick.

Eddie Adams from Torrance: It's farking 2012. When are you libtards going to stop blaming Bush for the failures of his administration?


Blaming this particular nonsense on the Bush Administration is silly, because it's not as though this makes POTUS' radar, and it's silly to make it seem like it does, whomever is in office.

But here's the thing.

The Bush administration screwed things up colossally, epically. The fact is that it will take the rest of the Obama administration, assuming the next four years, and probably the Presidency after that to unwind the mess.

They piled trillions of dollars into unfunded wars, and cut taxes at the same time. Banks were allowed to create a situation where the financial system became little more than a shell-game, whilst concurrently concentrating more and more into the hands of fewer and fewer. (The financial system issues were not all Bush's fault, certainly). All at the same time as the Baby Boomers - history's most selfish generation - began to edge their way towards retirement.

The more responsible Presidents that follow him won't have the option of fixing the mess in the same reckless way that it was created. They will need to thoughtfully and deliberately find their way back. It will take many, many years.

Get used to people blaming Bush, and give them a break...it is, after all, his fault.

Now is not the time to play the blame game.
But here are some likely suspects: Rio, The rain, The Bossa Nova, Canada, and The Alcohol.

800k but for what? I've been part of conferences that costs more to put on and many that barely broke 6 figures.

Hard to judge without context.

Eddie Adams from Torrance: It's farking 2012. When are you libtards going to stop blaming Bush for the failures of his administration?

Oh my.

/Spent the day stripping furniture.

RoyBatty:
Bush was almost 100% responsible for the economy melting down,

Not so much.

I know a lot of folks are in major denial about it, but the biggest reason the economy melted down was the massive effort by Congressional Democrats to get poor people to buy homes (that they couldn't afford), magnified by another huge effort to protect their biggest donors when they realized just how badly they screwed up.

Ryker's Peninsula: Now is not the time to play the blame game.
But here are some likely suspects: Rio, The rain, The Bossa Nova, Canada, and The Alcohol.

If all else fails you can blame it on me. (popzmuzik)

/Yellow tape version.

cirby: RoyBatty:
Bush was almost 100% responsible for the economy melting down,

Not so much.

I know a lot of folks are in major denial about it, but the biggest reason the economy melted down was the massive effort by Congressional Democrats to get poor people to buy homes (that they couldn't afford), magnified by another huge effort to protect their biggest donors when they realized just how badly they screwed up.

Thank you, I'll except the correction.

Bush was 99.99999999% responsible for the economy melting down, Bush being a complete farktard along with his supporters.

gameshowhost: cirby: RoyBatty:
Bush was almost 100% responsible for the economy melting down,

Not so much.

I know a lot of folks are in major denial about it, but the biggest reason the economy melted down was the massive effort by Congressional Democrats to get poor people to buy homes (that they couldn't afford), magnified by another huge effort to protect their biggest donors when they realized just how badly they screwed up.

Look! A debunked talking point!

I don't know,... everytime I drove by a McMansion it always had a shopping cart full of cans parked out front. That talking point might be legit.

Who's to blame when parties really get out of hand?
Who's to blame when they get poorly planned?
Whoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoooo-ooooooooo?

The administration also argued Friday night that the cost of the Western Regional Conference increased sharply under the Bush White House -- from $93,000 in 2004 to $323,855 in 2006 to $655,025 in 2008, then $840,616 in 2010, or just 28 percent under Obama.


So a 142% increase compared to 28%. Even if it was 0% under Obama, you farks would still complain.

downpaymentblues: It's wrong to point out this all spiraled out of control and happened under the previous administration (the budget for the 2010 party was submitted in 2008) because.... it's true?

I just wonder how far this "Oh sure, blame BUSH) false argument carries. Are we to pretend the past just doesn't exist?

I don't personally blame Bush. But it was his inspector general choice that missed this for years.

It's also worth noting that even Fox couldn't manage to twist a quote enough to make it sound like someone was blaming Bush; just that the Obama admin released the numbers, and the numbers indicate that Bush is to blame, so therefore Obama is blaming bush.

You know what they say; reality has a liberal bias.

Every one knows that Obama was given a daily briefing with the headline: "GSA determined to waste taxpayers money in the US." ]
You can't explain that.

gameshowhost: cirby: RoyBatty:
Bush was almost 100% responsible for the economy melting down,

Not so much.

I know a lot of folks are in major denial about it, but the biggest reason the economy melted down was the massive effort by Congressional Democrats to get poor people to buy homes (that they couldn't afford), magnified by another huge effort to protect their biggest donors when they realized just how badly they screwed up.

Look! A debunked talking point!

Interesting. Got a link or something to it being debunked? Because federal encouragement or loosening of restrictions on housing is usually a big component in housing boom/bust cycles, and the Dems were as involved as anyone or more during the deregulation and encouragement of the '90s.

cirby: RoyBatty:
Bush was almost 100% responsible for the economy melting down,

Not so much.

I know a lot of folks are in major denial about it, but the biggest reason the economy melted down was the massive effort by Congressional Democrats to get poor people to buy homes (that they couldn't afford), magnified by another huge effort to protect their biggest donors when they realized just how badly they screwed up.

There's plenty of blame to go around, glass-stegall, dodd-frank... rafts of banking deregulation, pushing of lower interest rates than there should have been, and ya, congressional democrats played a role too, there's no denying that. But anyone who says "the biggest reason the economy melted down was" and then blames one group is full of shiat. From speculation markets to improper bundling of mortgages into securities and SIVs to out and out fraud by borrowers and frequently by agents of lenders, there were literally millions of hands trying to steal the cookies from the jar... trying to single out just a few of them as the reason the jar broke is just dishonest. I don't blame Bush for the economy his administration had to struggle through (though I do blame him for the inefficacy of his feed the rich tax cuts), and I would hope you don't actually buy into the idea that you're espousing here, that we've somehow identified one small group of people as being mostly responsible for the failure. It wasn't millionaires who made the collapse, it wasn't poor people, it wasn't unions, and frankly, there just isn't some easy bogeyman to pin this crap to... we have greedy people in a mostly unregulated market, a failing infrastructure, a failing education system, a manufacturing system that puts our laborers in price competition with slave laborers, and so many other problems that the pillars of our economy are most certainly unsound. Spending our time looking for imaginary gremlins upon which we hope to cast blame is not nearly as productive a use of our time as discussing what regulations are needed, whether the implementation of current regulations is being done effectively, whether our tariff system and participation in the WTO are accomplishing their desired goals, and whether or not we can hope to lead the world tomorrow despite having a mentality that spoils today at its expense.

Jim_Callahan: Interesting. Got a link or something to it being debunked?

Got a link or something to it being anything other than bullshiat?