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(TMZ)   Thanks to an ironclad prenup, Ruben Studdard only has to give his ex-wife $12,000 and a 2006 BMW. Bonus: no alimony, and he gets the engagement ring back   (tmz.com) divider line 129
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2012-04-08 09:24:51 AM
Was he in Good Burger or something?

...oh American Idol. Whatever.
 
2012-04-08 10:14:30 AM
That's what I call a smart man. Would have been smarter if he just avoided marriage all together....
 
2012-04-08 10:17:37 AM
Ruben should do a re-make of the old country song, and call it "I Got The Goldmine, She Got The Shaft".

Celebrate, Ruben!! (new window)
 
2012-04-08 11:43:14 AM
Very smart on his part. He realized his post-AI career wouldn't be worth a damn, so he had to hold on to as much money as humanly possible so he wasn't completely homeless in the event of a divorce. Well played, sir.
 
2012-04-08 11:55:25 AM
Whar is hero tag. WHAAARRR?

You might be a washed up c-lister, but damn, I applaud you for being smart.
 
2012-04-08 11:59:24 AM
Unfortunately, since he is in debt to a record company, that represents all his current assets.
 
2012-04-08 12:02:28 PM
she's got the whole SJP horse thing goin on
 
2012-04-08 12:03:17 PM
LOL a 2006 BMW that still isn't paid off?
 
2012-04-08 12:05:51 PM
I see he got the Massey prenup.
 
2012-04-08 12:08:42 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: Zuri tried to get the judge in their divorce case to nullify the prenup, claiming Ruben blindsided her with the documents just days before the wedding, unfairly pressuring her into signing them.

Honey, if you don't want to adhere to a prenup, then don't marry a man who wants you to sign one. Duh.


Yep. If she had adequate opportunity to get counsel and the prenup included full and clear financial disclosures, then it doesn't matter if he pressured her or said he wouldn't marry her if she didn't sign. Hell, if you get counsel there, you can sign them minutes before the wedding and they're valid.

The one thing that will kill a prenup every time, however, is hiding assets.
 
2012-04-08 12:10:06 PM
Good work, Ruben - nice to hear some guys do not get hosed in a divorce settlement.
 
2012-04-08 12:15:18 PM
"Boo-hoo judge, I signed this pre-nup because the Bible says divorce is a sin, and I never thought it would happen to me. Love is eternal, right? Now we're divorcing and I don't want to adhere to this legally binding document. I should get something, a lot of something, for contributing nothing to this marriage. Please nullify this pre-nup and I will blow you".
/Fun fact.....your partner striking at rich, whether male or female, does not entitle you to squat
//unless you can prove you played an integral role in acquiring said wealth
///never married, never will be married
////my girlfriend is perfectly fine with that
 
2012-04-08 12:17:31 PM

Loucifer: I see he got the Massey prenup.


Came in here to make that reference.
 
2012-04-08 12:17:42 PM

moralpanic: LOL a 2006 BMW that still isn't paid off?


Normality is hilarious.
 
2012-04-08 12:19:02 PM
After 30 years my mom just recently decided to leave my dad. She got half his shiat and is a happy camper, while he's on the brink of suicide.
She never made shiat for money... her income was essentially pocket cash compared to him, but she still gets half.
fark you, women who steal out of a sense of entitlement.
 
2012-04-08 12:20:55 PM

" According to the final ruling, Ruben was not ordered to pay any spousal support or alimony and gets to keep their home plus all his belongings-jewelry, pensions, royalties, clothing, and all his cash."


I know I can Google about spousal support or alimony, but I just don't understand why a spouse has to support on a monthly basis the other spouse long after the divorce.

 
2012-04-08 12:21:41 PM

sage37: After 30 years my mom just recently decided to leave my dad. She got half his shiat and is a happy camper, while he's on the brink of suicide.
She never made shiat for money... her income was essentially pocket cash compared to him, but she still gets half.
fark you, women who steal out of a sense of entitlement.


Might I ask if you have a plan to assist your father?
 
2012-04-08 12:27:59 PM
Did I read that right? Did he make her give his name back? That would take it from meh to awesome.
 
2012-04-08 12:32:13 PM

Theaetetus: If she had adequate opportunity to get counsel and the prenup included full and clear financial disclosures, then it doesn't matter if he pressured her or said he wouldn't marry her if she didn't sign.


That's kind of the point, right?
 
2012-04-08 12:32:27 PM

skinink: I know I can Google about spousal support or alimony, but I just don't understand why a spouse has to support on a monthly basis the other spouse long after the divorce.


Originally, it's because women were typically expected to give up any opportunity of a career or higher education when they got married. They may have had jobs and gone to college, but then get married and start pumping out children in their 20s... Thirty years later, if they get divorced, they're farked, because (a) they have little to no assets or retirement funds and (b) no one's going to hire someone with a 30 year resume gap and no recent training.

Now, that's not necessarily true, which is why permanent alimony is going away. Nonetheless, in most families, one spouse makes a financial sacrifice to further the other spouse's career. For example, spouse A takes time off work to stay at home and care for children, resulting in a resume gap and loss of seniority. Or, for example, spouse A gives up a job in city A because spouse B got a really lucrative job in city B and they're moving. Or, for example, spouse A works to put spouse B through grad school, with an expectation that spouse B's increased income will benefit both of them, or that spouse B will then work to put spouse A through grad school.
Temporary alimony is the result of this. It's a temporary rehabilitation to allow the spouse that made the financial sacrifice to return to school, get training or increase skills, or otherwise regain employment and seniority that they lost in helping take care of the other spouse.

It's also gender neutral. I know a guy who received alimony for several years.
 
2012-04-08 12:34:41 PM
I wonder if that's why he isn't doing the Kia commercials anymore. I was getting quite used to thinking of Riverchase Kia as home of the Ruben-sized deals!
 
2012-04-08 12:37:38 PM

MoronLessOff: Theaetetus: If she had adequate opportunity to get counsel and the prenup included full and clear financial disclosures, then it doesn't matter if he pressured her or said he wouldn't marry her if she didn't sign.

That's kind of the point, right?


Well, yeah, but the pressure applied can get kind of unfair in many of these cases... Like, the guests have all arrived, the band is playing, and the minister is looking uncomfortably at his wristwatch.
But, like I said, full financial disclosure, and opportunity for counsel, and they'll be upheld.

/unless children are involved. Prenup agreements about custody and child support are considered mere suggestions by the courts.
 
2012-04-08 12:43:23 PM
So you're saying that she got half of everything he owns? That's not much of a pre-nup for someone as famous as him.
 
2012-04-08 12:49:26 PM
The lesson -- don't sign a prenup

No. That is not the lesson.
 
2012-04-08 12:52:47 PM
Remove all the religion, love and romance and marriage is nothing more than a business partnership. Would you get into a partnership with someone who's going to contribute 10% of the assets but would be entitled to 50% if the business goes under, even if it's your bestest bestest friend in the whole wide world?
 
2012-04-08 12:53:00 PM

skinink: " According to the final ruling, Ruben was not ordered to pay any spousal support or alimony and gets to keep their home plus all his belongings-jewelry, pensions, royalties, clothing, and all his cash."
I know I can Google about spousal support or alimony, but I just don't understand why a spouse has to support on a monthly basis the other spouse long after the divorce.


That idea is way outdated, alimony should have been done away with years ago except in extreme cases. There are still marriages where one spouse does not work at all, and if they divorced after 20 or 30 years, one of them would end up on the streets.

Marriages are supposed to be working partnerships, so even if you don't bring home the bacon, you're still thought of as having supported the household, which is usually true--you take care of the kids and everything that the other partner doesn't. If you don't think that way, and believe that every dime you bring home in a paycheck is YOURS, plus everything that you owned together is YOURS, then don't get married. Because you sound like an asshole.
 
2012-04-08 12:54:44 PM
Holy Matripowny, Batman.

/Prenups for the win.
 
2012-04-08 12:55:19 PM

Gergesa: sage37: After 30 years my mom just recently decided to leave my dad. She got half his shiat and is a happy camper, while he's on the brink of suicide.
She never made shiat for money... her income was essentially pocket cash compared to him, but she still gets half.
fark you, women who steal out of a sense of entitlement.

Might I ask if you have a plan to assist your father?


I moved in with him, switched to part-time to at least be able to cover my costs, and spend the rest of my time taking care of his parents (who live with us) and maintaining the property (repairs, cooking, cleaning, etc)
 
2012-04-08 12:56:23 PM

moralpanic: LOL a 2006 BMW that still isn't paid off?


Yeah...now that you mention it, I don't think most people finance for more than 5 years....
 
2012-04-08 12:58:05 PM

DubyaHater: "Boo-hoo judge, I signed this pre-nup because the Bible says divorce is a sin, and I never thought it would happen to me. Love is eternal, right? Now we're divorcing and I don't want to adhere to this legally binding document. I should get something, a lot of something, for contributing nothing to this marriage. Please nullify this pre-nup and I will blow you".
/Fun fact.....your partner striking at rich, whether male or female, does not entitle you to squat
//unless you can prove you played an integral role in acquiring said wealth
///never married, never will be married
////my girlfriend is perfectly fine with that


I bet she is.
Fun fact: If your partner isn't playing an integral role in your life, you made a mistake in the first place.
 
2012-04-08 01:01:52 PM
That is farking awesome, who is he?
 
2012-04-08 01:02:41 PM

sage37: After 30 years my mom just recently decided to leave my dad. She got half his shiat and is a happy camper, while he's on the brink of suicide.
She never made shiat for money... her income was essentially pocket cash compared to him, but she still gets half.
fark you, women who steal out of a sense of entitlement.


Look, I understand your sentiment, but for 30 years she was a loving companion and helped him build his career, finances, etc - she didn't have to directly make money, but her support work enabled him to make that money. She deserves half of everything they built during that 30 years. My wife and I are that kind of couple - she doesn't make beans for money, but without her I could not have excelled at my career. If we ever split, her half was well and fairly earned and she deserves it.

Now, if you want to say she has no claim on specific assets because they predate her, then sure. If you want to argue that one of those California-style gold digger marriages are BS, I'm there with you. But a 30-year relationship - well, fark that, she's not a damn lackey or hired help.
 
2012-04-08 01:04:51 PM

cryinoutloud: skinink: " According to the final ruling, Ruben was not ordered to pay any spousal support or alimony and gets to keep their home plus all his belongings-jewelry, pensions, royalties, clothing, and all his cash."
I know I can Google about spousal support or alimony, but I just don't understand why a spouse has to support on a monthly basis the other spouse long after the divorce.

That idea is way outdated, alimony should have been done away with years ago except in extreme cases. There are still marriages where one spouse does not work at all, and if they divorced after 20 or 30 years, one of them would end up on the streets.

Marriages are supposed to be working partnerships, so even if you don't bring home the bacon, you're still thought of as having supported the household, which is usually true--you take care of the kids and everything that the other partner doesn't. If you don't think that way, and believe that every dime you bring home in a paycheck is YOURS, plus everything that you owned together is YOURS, then don't get married. Because you sound like an asshole.


And you taking things too personally doesn't make you sound like a bowl of roses either. Always amusing how Farkers try to make a point by name calling. Why did you even bother, you should have just called me an asshole and save yourself the time?
 
2012-04-08 01:04:56 PM

sage37: After 30 years my mom just recently decided to leave my dad. She got half his shiat and is a happy camper, while he's on the brink of suicide.
She never made shiat for money... her income was essentially pocket cash compared to him, but she still gets half.
fark you, women who steal out of a sense of entitlement.


After 30 years together, half seems fair to me. She might not have been contributing equally in a monetary sense but as cryinoutloud said above, "Marriages are supposed to be working partnerships, so even if you don't bring home the bacon, you're still thought of as having supported the household, which is usually true--you take care of the kids and everything that the other partner doesn't."

Of course, since you are part of family, you are best able to say if she DID contribute in other ways. For all I know she was a piece of shiat parent and your father should have divorced her when you were still a kid.
 
2012-04-08 01:06:06 PM

Theaetetus: skinink: I know I can Google about spousal support or alimony, but I just don't understand why a spouse has to support on a monthly basis the other spouse long after the divorce.

Originally, it's because women were typically expected to give up any opportunity of a career or higher education when they got married. They may have had jobs and gone to college, but then get married and start pumping out children in their 20s... Thirty years later, if they get divorced, they're farked, because (a) they have little to no assets or retirement funds and (b) no one's going to hire someone with a 30 year resume gap and no recent training.

Now, that's not necessarily true, which is why permanent alimony is going away. Nonetheless, in most families, one spouse makes a financial sacrifice to further the other spouse's career. For example, spouse A takes time off work to stay at home and care for children, resulting in a resume gap and loss of seniority. Or, for example, spouse A gives up a job in city A because spouse B got a really lucrative job in city B and they're moving. Or, for example, spouse A works to put spouse B through grad school, with an expectation that spouse B's increased income will benefit both of them, or that spouse B will then work to put spouse A through grad school.
Temporary alimony is the result of this. It's a temporary rehabilitation to allow the spouse that made the financial sacrifice to return to school, get training or increase skills, or otherwise regain employment and seniority that they lost in helping take care of the other spouse.

It's also gender neutral. I know a guy who received alimony for several years.


You didn't mention the disparity among the sexes when it comes to "marriagability". Historically part of the reason women received financial support from the ex-husband is because after a certain age their chances of getting remarried were slim. It's a lot easier for a 20yo woman to land a desirable husband than it is for a 40yo, but a divorced man's marketability doesn't suffer nearly as much. Alimony was meant to ensure men didn't dump their aging wives on the rest of society in order to chase some younger tail.
 
2012-04-08 01:08:42 PM

zenobia: DubyaHater: "Boo-hoo judge, I signed this pre-nup because the Bible says divorce is a sin, and I never thought it would happen to me. Love is eternal, right? Now we're divorcing and I don't want to adhere to this legally binding document. I should get something, a lot of something, for contributing nothing to this marriage. Please nullify this pre-nup and I will blow you".
/Fun fact.....your partner striking at rich, whether male or female, does not entitle you to squat
//unless you can prove you played an integral role in acquiring said wealth
///never married, never will be married
////my girlfriend is perfectly fine with that

I bet she is.
Fun fact: If your partner isn't playing an integral role in your life, you made a mistake in the first place.


Hence, why people have pre-nups and why divorces tend to get ugly. People change, relationships change, priorities change.
People enter relationships and get married for several reasons, sometimes for the wrong reasons. Hindsight is always 20/20. I don't quite understand why you made your comment, other than in an attempt to be snarky. Good job, I guess.
 
2012-04-08 01:09:04 PM

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: moralpanic: LOL a 2006 BMW that still isn't paid off?

Yeah...now that you mention it, I don't think most people finance for more than 5 years....


He could have bought it used...
 
2012-04-08 01:10:35 PM
Why was this Man named after a speech impediment?
 
2012-04-08 01:21:20 PM

Dinobot: Whar is hero tag. WHAAARRR?

You might be a washed up c-lister, but damn, I applaud you for being smart.


+1 on this. Finally, a divorce leaves the wife broke and close to despair.
 
2012-04-08 01:30:56 PM

jjwars1: moralpanic: LOL a 2006 BMW that still isn't paid off?

Normality is hilarious.


Thank you for not saying "normalcy".
 
2012-04-08 01:40:19 PM
Know how I know I'm not married...?
 
2012-04-08 01:42:09 PM
She had to fark that fat pig for next to nothing?
 
2012-04-08 01:47:27 PM

skinink: And you taking things too personally doesn't make you sound like a bowl of roses either. Always amusing how Farkers try to make a point by name calling. Why did you even bother, you should have just called me an asshole and save yourself the time?


I wasn't talking about YOU, skinink. I like you just fine. I was using generic "you," like referring to everyone in the world. And some of them are assholes.

I always think it's obvious in the way people post, but apparently it isn't. My apologies.
 
2012-04-08 01:47:31 PM

Theaetetus: skinink:

It's also gender neutral. I know a guy who received alimony for several years.


its only gender neutral if you do not consider hypergamy.
 
2012-04-08 01:52:27 PM

lazyguineapig33: hypergamy.


You're a dumbass if you think that's a thing that happens.
 
2012-04-08 01:54:33 PM

sage37: Gergesa: sage37: After 30 years my mom just recently decided to leave my dad. She got half his shiat and is a happy camper, while he's on the brink of suicide.
She never made shiat for money... her income was essentially pocket cash compared to him, but she still gets half.
fark you, women who steal out of a sense of entitlement.

Might I ask if you have a plan to assist your father?

I moved in with him, switched to part-time to at least be able to cover my costs, and spend the rest of my time taking care of his parents (who live with us) and maintaining the property (repairs, cooking, cleaning, etc)


So you are basically taking over the "wife" spot for him. It takes a lot of work doesn't it? And maybe she never "made shiat for money" because she was raising children, running a household, and essentially single-parenting the family while your dad was out earning a living.


/came from a two parent family. dad was the good guy, the one you asked for favors when mom said no, handing out allowances, and sitting at the head of the table at meal time. mom was the one who dealt with everything else and was the biggest influence on my life. true she farked my self-esteem, but I got better after I got out of the house.
 
2012-04-08 02:00:27 PM

charity: sage37: After 30 years my mom just recently decided to leave my dad. She got half his shiat and is a happy camper, while he's on the brink of suicide.
She never made shiat for money... her income was essentially pocket cash compared to him, but she still gets half.
fark you, women who steal out of a sense of entitlement.

After 30 years together, half seems fair to me. She might not have been contributing equally in a monetary sense but as cryinoutloud said above, "Marriages are supposed to be working partnerships, so even if you don't bring home the bacon, you're still thought of as having supported the household, which is usually true--you take care of the kids and everything that the other partner doesn't."


But she's the one that wanted out of the relationship, why does she still deserve the financial support it brings?
 
2012-04-08 02:00:57 PM

sage37: Gergesa: sage37: After 30 years my mom just recently decided to leave my dad. She got half his shiat and is a happy camper, while he's on the brink of suicide.
She never made shiat for money... her income was essentially pocket cash compared to him, but she still gets half.
fark you, women who steal out of a sense of entitlement.
J
Might I ask if you have a plan to assist your father?

I moved in with him, switched to part-time to at least be able to cover my costs, and spend the rest of my time taking care of his parents (who live with us) and maintaining the property (repairs, cooking, cleaning, etc)


Good job.
 
2012-04-08 02:13:35 PM

SPna15: lazyguineapig33: hypergamy.

You're a dumbass if you think that's a thing that happens.

You're a dumbass if you think it isn't. Most women are not money-grubbing whores, just as most men aren't abusive drunks, but then there are the exceptions.
 
2012-04-08 02:29:43 PM
Ruben, you are the man.
 
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