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(ABC)   Pilot: Smoke in the cockpit, request emergency landing. Air traffic controller: LOL, nah   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 130
    More: Asinine, emergency landing, control towers, Denver International Airport, hoax call, towers  
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2012-04-07 09:07:29 PM  
♫Smooooke in the cockpit,
A fire in the sky...♫
 
2012-04-07 09:14:23 PM  
Good luck, we're all counting on you.jpg
 
cjo [TotalFark]
2012-04-07 09:16:28 PM  
The cockpit? What is it?
 
2012-04-07 09:16:34 PM  
img84.imageshack.us

I say let 'em crash.

/DNRTFA
 
2012-04-07 09:16:46 PM  
If only someone could invent some kind of mechanism allowing all parties involved in a communication to authenticate themselves, thus making it impossible to hoax air traffic controllers.
 
2012-04-07 09:17:18 PM  
I guess Juan Williams should worry less about the Muslim passengers and more about the pilot/control tower shenanigans.
 
2012-04-07 09:17:53 PM  

cjo: The cockpit? What is it?


It's a little room in the front of the plane, where the pilots sit, but that's not important right now.
 
2012-04-07 09:18:14 PM  
Watch - the FAA will "investigate", the controller (their employee) will be found to have done nothing wrong and the pilot will be pilloried.

// Cynical? Naw, not me.
 
2012-04-07 09:18:32 PM  

Copper Spork: If only someone could invent some kind of mechanism allowing all parties involved in a communication to authenticate themselves, thus making it impossible to hoax air traffic controllers.


/transponder? tuned to the emergency numbers? just a guess.
 
2012-04-07 09:18:45 PM  
CSB: IFR training flight, we are picking up lots of ice in a 172 and running out of throttle - Seattle Center sez no descent to warmer altitude; instructor sez "oh yeah? watch us".
 
2012-04-07 09:21:07 PM  
They were just super baked and saw a white castle at 30,000ft.
 
2012-04-07 09:22:48 PM  

Copper Spork: If only someone could invent some kind of mechanism allowing all parties involved in a communication to authenticate themselves, thus making it impossible to hoax air traffic controllers.


Listening to the audio, it made it sound like it's scary easy to prank air traffic control.
 
2012-04-07 09:22:50 PM  
According to the photo in TFA it was a US Airways Express plane. No wonder they didn't believe him.
 
2012-04-07 09:22:52 PM  

one of Ripley's Bad Guys: CSB: IFR training flight, we are picking up lots of ice in a 172 and running out of throttle - Seattle Center sez no descent to warmer altitude; instructor sez "oh yeah? watch us".


Sounds like a choice between a controlled descent and an uncontrolled one.
 
2012-04-07 09:24:00 PM  
TFA: Aviation experts say that the pilot was wrong in initially identifying himself as only as "5912." He should have identified himself as "United Airlines 5912."

Idiot aviation "experts". This flight was not operated by United. If they had called themselves United the controller definitely would've called BS. ExpressJet's callsign is Acey.

/Better than SureJet
 
2012-04-07 09:24:04 PM  
You gotta admit, that would be one hell of a fun hoax to do to air traffic controllers.
 
2012-04-07 09:24:09 PM  
Nice try, blaming the pilot for not using his full call sign, but that gets thrown out the window pretty quick. The controller should fry. CFR 91.3 paragrapg B. In an emergency requiring immediate action, the Captain may deviate from any rule to the extent required to meet that emergency.

When there is smoke in the plane, using your full call sign gets put on the back burner.

/had smoke in the cockpit right at lift off
//not fun
 
2012-04-07 09:25:32 PM  
"Luckily the pilots landed and evacuated the plane safely, without help from the control tower."

Luckily, it always works that way.
 
2012-04-07 09:25:50 PM  
FTFA, "Prank calls to control towers are not that uncommon" um... why ?
 
2012-04-07 09:25:54 PM  

iron de havilland: [img84.imageshack.us image 500x293]

I say let 'em crash.

/DNRTFA


"They bought the tickets, they knew the risks"

Sounds like they are trying to pin some of the blame on the pilot as well, "Pilot did not announce himself properly" doesn't the radar show the aircraft and a unique id number they could cross reference?
 
2012-04-07 09:25:57 PM  

SkyPig: Watch - the FAA will "investigate", the controller (their employee) will be found to have done nothing wrong and the pilot will be pilloried.

// Cynical? Naw, not me.


Wing falls off

FAA/NTSB: the pilot failed to maintain directional control of the aircraft
 
2012-04-07 09:26:50 PM  

Copper Spork: If only someone could invent some kind of mechanism allowing all parties involved in a communication to authenticate themselves, thus making it impossible to hoax air traffic controllers.


Like a secret handshake?
 
2012-04-07 09:28:12 PM  

cman: You gotta admit, that would be one hell of a fun hoax to do to air traffic controllers.


Then send them a pizza?
 
2012-04-07 09:28:52 PM  
assets.fundoofun.com

♫WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAA!!!! Fire in the cockpit he did f-f-f-f-fly, C-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-Crambone! ♫

 
2012-04-07 09:29:59 PM  

MKaprocki: Idiot aviation "experts". This flight was not operated by United. If they had called themselves United the controller definitely would've called BS. ExpressJet's callsign is Acey.


Beat me to it.
 
Skr
2012-04-07 09:30:03 PM  
Major Tom: Help!
Ground Control: You're Farked.


/someone needs a firing, or at least better eyes on their own field.
 
2012-04-07 09:31:58 PM  

flucto: According to the photo in TFA it was a US Airways Express plane. No wonder they didn't believe him.


Yes, because pictures of every single aircraft taking off and landing are kept on file in case a news story is made.
 
2012-04-07 09:36:18 PM  

LessO2: Yes, because pictures of every single aircraft taking off and landing are kept on file in case a news story is made.


By that logic let's just chuck a Qantas super in the photo.
 
2012-04-07 09:36:19 PM  

edmo: "Luckily the pilots landed and evacuated the plane safely, without help from the control tower."

Luckily, it always works that way.


Meaning without assistance in knowing which runway to land on, whether other flights may collide with them, etc.
 
2012-04-07 09:37:57 PM  

flucto: By that logic let's just chuck a Qantas super in the photo.


No kidding. Especially when an engine falls off.
 
cjo [TotalFark]
2012-04-07 09:39:16 PM  
This is Ghostrider, requesting a flyby.
 
2012-04-07 09:39:23 PM  

LessO2: No kidding. Especially when an engine falls off.


They don't fall off. They explode.
 
2012-04-07 09:42:21 PM  
Just-released surveillance camera shot from the cockpit...

img215.imageshack.us
 
2012-04-07 09:42:33 PM  

flucto: LessO2: No kidding. Especially when an engine falls off.

They don't fall off. They explode.


Even better.
 
2012-04-07 09:42:52 PM  

flucto: They don't fall off. They explode.


img.dailymail.co.uk
 
2012-04-07 09:42:53 PM  
iron de havilland: [img84.imageshack.us image 500x293]

I say let 'em crash.

/DNRTFA


I've been beaten to Counterpoint guy... Shirley you can't be serious
 
2012-04-07 09:44:16 PM  

Chariset: edmo: "Luckily the pilots landed and evacuated the plane safely, without help from the control tower."

Luckily, it always works that way.

Meaning without assistance in knowing which runway to land on, whether other flights may collide with them, etc.


I'm pretty sure they had been already cleared for landing.
 
2012-04-07 09:47:57 PM  

manitobamadman: FTFA, "Prank calls to control towers are not that uncommon" um... why ?


Yeah, about that....

"Ha ha, let's call the tower and tell them the plane's been hijacked! Won't that be a riot!"
or
"Hey I know! Let's pretend the plane's on fire and get everyone out to the runway, and then when we land we'll go AHA! PUNKED!"

I just don't see it.
 
2012-04-07 09:49:43 PM  
The smoke was caused by a paper bag of dog poop that somebody set in fire outside the cockpit door.
 
2012-04-07 10:00:34 PM  
There's no reason to become alarmed, and we hope you'll enjoy the rest of your flight. By the way, is there anyone on board who knows how to fly a plane?

And all those people evacuating the plane. I haven't seen anything like this since the Anita Bryant concert.
 
2012-04-07 10:01:14 PM  
Charter flight doesn't want to get diverted from a busy airport where they have favourable facilities pricing. Said airport is really busy that day so they divert some of the aircraft to other airports.

This means more landing fees in places where you don't necessarily have deals.

Pilot tells the tower that he smells smoke. Tower says "Okay. Land." The mysterious smell of smoke is never found and blamed on dust getting caught in a fan motor or something.

No, this has never been done before.
 
2012-04-07 10:02:05 PM  

flucto: LessO2: Yes, because pictures of every single aircraft taking off and landing are kept on file in case a news story is made.

By that logic let's just chuck a Qantas super in the photo.


...you are aware of present editorial "standards", right?
 
2012-04-07 10:03:37 PM  

cman: You gotta admit, that would be one hell of a fun hoax to do to air traffic controllers.


As a pilot, not at all. Pilots (and controllers) have to be able to believe each other. Where I learned to fly (KATW) we had excellent controllers. Part of the reason is that they worked hard with the students (who mess up radio calls, among the simple mistakes) along with the CFI's. If we couldn't trust each other, it would've been chaos.

Pranking controllers is dumb. Their job is hard enough without idiots jerking their chain. By the same token, controllers shouldn't prank pilots.
 
2012-04-07 10:04:37 PM  

Oldiron_79: iron de havilland: [img84.imageshack.us image 500x293]

I say let 'em crash.

/DNRTFA

I've been beaten to Counterpoint guy... Shirley you can't be serious


Roger Roger.
 
2012-04-07 10:04:49 PM  

gaslight: Charter flight doesn't want to get diverted from a busy airport where they have favourable facilities pricing. Said airport is really busy that day so they divert some of the aircraft to other airports.

This means more landing fees in places where you don't necessarily have deals.

Pilot tells the tower that he smells smoke. Tower says "Okay. Land." The mysterious smell of smoke is never found and blamed on dust getting caught in a fan motor or something.

No, this has never been done before.


Then, let's address the problem in a different way than allowing controllers to decide "Meh, just a hoax" shall we? I'd rather err on the side of letting commuter jets get diverted than wait till a genuine emergency crashes because some controller figured the screams of terror were just really good actors on the radio.
 
2012-04-07 10:05:55 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-04-07 10:06:29 PM  

flucto: LessO2: No kidding. Especially when an engine falls off.

They don't fall off. They explode.


farm8.staticflickr.com
 
2012-04-07 10:07:44 PM  

LessO2: Yes, because pictures of every single aircraft taking off and landing are kept on file in case a news story is made.


Haven't been able to find the registration number of the plane involved yet, but I'd almost bet money that this site has at least a few photos of that specfic aircraft.
 
2012-04-07 10:20:29 PM  

cgremlin:
Haven't been able to find the registration number of the plane involved yet, but I'd almost bet money that this site has at least a few photos of that specfic aircraft.


N27152 (new window)
 
2012-04-07 10:30:42 PM  

Gyrfalcon: manitobamadman: FTFA, "Prank calls to control towers are not that uncommon" um... why ?

Yeah, about that....

"Ha ha, let's call the tower and tell them the plane's been hijacked! Won't that be a riot!"
or
"Hey I know! Let's pretend the plane's on fire and get everyone out to the runway, and then when we land we'll go AHA! PUNKED!"

I just don't see it.


You're either A) a teenager, in which case it is incredibly, INCREDIBLY stupid, but you may somehow be so immature as to actual think it's funny or B) an actual adult trolling air traffic control, in which case you should be drawn, quartered, burned at the stake, and have all your ashes shot from a canon.
 
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