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(Lincoln Journal Star)   Nebraska likely to force telephone company to keep payphone in business despite pulling in a whopping $19.58 in coins to offset $1,469 cost to maintain it   (journalstar.com) divider line 186
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2012-04-07 09:05:53 PM
I remember in the mid 90s, COCOTs were the big thing. (Customer-Owned Coin-Op Telephones). There were late-night commercials about how to make a killing in the COCOT business, and most of them usually charged horrible rates for long-distance. Glad to see them go. Good riddance.
 
2012-04-07 09:20:33 PM
Ya know, if you are gonna continue to insist to continue massive government regulation of business, at least have them make some sort of sense.
 
2012-04-07 09:32:12 PM

cman: Ya know, if you are gonna continue to insist to continue massive government regulation of business, at least have them make some sort of sense.


I would ask the same of your grammar.
 
2012-04-07 10:50:17 PM
I Probably a good idea, keeping a last resort avenue of communication for those unfortunate enough to find themselves phoneless in the middle of nowhere.

It's also awesome to watch you political idiots try to figure out where this fits into your agenda.
 
2012-04-07 10:55:24 PM
$19.58? No pay phone takes pennies. And they never have.
 
2012-04-07 11:04:54 PM

tin_man: I Probably a good idea, keeping a last resort avenue of communication for those unfortunate enough to find themselves phoneless in the middle of nowhere.


Especially if there isn't any reliable cell reception in those areas.
 
2012-04-07 11:16:06 PM

quickdraw: tin_man: I Probably a good idea, keeping a last resort avenue of communication for those unfortunate enough to find themselves phoneless in the middle of nowhere.
Especially if there isn't any reliable cell reception in those areas.



If the citizens of Bugtussle want that 'last resort', then they should pay for it. Not the private phone company.

Isn't Nebraska a solid 'keep your government regulations of my business' bootstrappity red state?
 
2012-04-07 11:37:00 PM

toddalmighty: $19.58? No pay phone takes pennies. And they never have.


I don't remember if pay phones steal your pennies or if they roll them right back out but it could be:

"The two pay phones generated a total of $19.58 in 2011, with less than half of that coming in as quarters and dimes for local calls. Long-distance carriers paid the rest."
 
2012-04-08 12:06:43 AM

cman: Ya know, if you are gonna continue to insist to continue massive government regulation of business, at least have them make some sort of sense.


Regulations that made sense in 1950 don't always necessarily make sense in 2012
 
2012-04-08 12:33:24 AM

tin_man: I Probably a good idea, keeping a last resort avenue of communication for those unfortunate enough to find themselves phoneless in the middle of nowhere.

It's also awesome to watch you political idiots try to figure out where this fits into your agenda.


so charge $10 a call and dont maintain it ...
TADA problem solved

HOW the fark can they MAKE you maintain it??
we sent someone out last week. we will send him out again ...
 
2012-04-08 12:39:30 AM
Are people zinging pennies into that thing? Why the strange total?
 
HBK
2012-04-08 12:41:37 AM
What about all of the poor migrant workers who need payphones to use their calling cards to call home? What about them?
 
2012-04-08 12:42:14 AM

violentsalvation: toddalmighty: $19.58? No pay phone takes pennies. And they never have.

I don't remember if pay phones steal your pennies or if they roll them right back out but it could be:

"The two pay phones generated a total of $19.58 in 2011, with less than half of that coming in as quarters and dimes for local calls. Long-distance carriers paid the rest."


Also some take credit and bank cards.
 
2012-04-08 12:43:47 AM
Otherwise known as the Superman Tax.

/God I hope the younger gen gets the reference.
 
2012-04-08 12:43:54 AM
There are pinko socialist liberal communists in Nebraska?
 
2012-04-08 12:44:58 AM

HBK: What about all of the poor migrant workers who need payphones to use their calling cards to call home? What about them?


That's what pay-as-you-go cell phones are made for. That and for non-traceable drug transactions.
 
2012-04-08 12:45:12 AM
What if you are smart and old enough to realize that everyone having to walk around with cell phones actually sucks?

Answer: Your employer will provide one to you free of charge if you refuse to buy one and its plan for yourself.

/ha
//ha!

///I turn it on when I have to and put it in my car. NEVER in my pocket.
 
2012-04-08 12:46:19 AM

Duskwuffie: Are people zinging pennies into that thing? Why the strange total?




RTFA
 
2012-04-08 12:46:34 AM

dave1y: quickdraw: tin_man: I Probably a good idea, keeping a last resort avenue of communication for those unfortunate enough to find themselves phoneless in the middle of nowhere.
Especially if there isn't any reliable cell reception in those areas.


If the citizens of Bugtussle want that 'last resort', then they should pay for it. Not the private phone company.

Isn't Nebraska a solid 'keep your government regulations of my business' bootstrappity red state?


.
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Stop crying comrade.
 
2012-04-08 12:47:39 AM

HBK: What about all of the poor migrant workers who need payphones to use their calling cards to call home? What about them?


The ones I know have cell phones that make international calls.
 
2012-04-08 12:48:11 AM

SN1987a goes boom: Otherwise known as the Superman Tax.

/God I hope the younger gen gets the reference.


I thought he broke his neck and died a few years later.
 
2012-04-08 12:48:32 AM

dave1y: If the citizens of Bugtussle want that 'last resort', then they should pay for it. Not the private phone company.


I guarantee you the money to maintain that payphone gets charged to the company's other customers.

You can make the argument that payphones are obsolete (I'd probably agree), but requiring a company to provide a public service as a condition of the privileges granted by the government (if nothing else, their phone lines are probably running through public spaces) is hardly unprecendented.
 
2012-04-08 12:48:33 AM

SN1987a goes boom: Otherwise known as the Superman Tax.

/God I hope the younger gen gets the reference.


It doesn't quite work, since the photo in TFA doesn't show a phone booth.
 
2012-04-08 12:48:42 AM
...so, to recap: Ohio is pushing to allow phone companies to pull out of maintaining vital landlines, while Nebraska is pushing to force phone companies to maintain useless pay phones.
 
2012-04-08 12:48:53 AM

weave: I remember in the mid 90s, COCOTs were the big thing. (Customer-Owned Coin-Op Telephones). There were late-night commercials about how to make a killing in the COCOT business, and most of them usually charged horrible rates for long-distance. Glad to see them go. Good riddance.


I remember those guys. They were all seeking financing to acquire each other at valuations of $2,000 per phone. They'd pay property owners $300 or more upfront and cut them in for a piece of the revenues and thought they were geniuses for installing a phone for that cheap.

The only ones that didn't go bankrupt were the ones who specialized in prison phones, which is a whole separate scam.
 
HBK
2012-04-08 12:49:24 AM

Tergiversada: HBK: What about all of the poor migrant workers who need payphones to use their calling cards to call home? What about them?

The ones I know have cell phones that make international calls.


Do they still use the calling cards? Because that was making somebody a lot of money.
 
2012-04-08 12:50:51 AM

tin_man: I Probably a good idea, keeping a last resort avenue of communication for those unfortunate enough to find themselves phoneless in the middle of nowhere.

It's also awesome to watch you political idiots try to figure out where this fits into your agenda.


Hey! I am NOT political...
 
2012-04-08 12:50:57 AM

tin_man: I Probably a good idea, keeping a last resort avenue of communication for those unfortunate enough to find themselves phoneless in the middle of nowhere.

It's also awesome to watch you political idiots try to figure out where this fits into your agenda.


Agreed, I think it is a good idea to keep some payphones around.

either way I would probably tell the telephone company, as long as they keep charging over a nickel for a text message they can keep maintaining pay phones.
 
2012-04-08 12:51:34 AM
Phone companies have been the beneficiaries of deregulation for years.

If there's a regulation left that can screw 'em, I'm all for it.
 
2012-04-08 12:52:17 AM
I'm old enough to have lived in a time where pay phones were a necessity. What a pain in the ass that was.
 
2012-04-08 12:52:36 AM

cyberspacedout: SN1987a goes boom: Otherwise known as the Superman Tax.

/God I hope the younger gen gets the reference.

It doesn't quite work, since the photo in TFA doesn't show a phone booth.


www.byrnerobotics.com
 
2012-04-08 12:52:39 AM

HBK: Tergiversada: HBK: What about all of the poor migrant workers who need payphones to use their calling cards to call home? What about them?

The ones I know have cell phones that make international calls.

Do they still use the calling cards? Because that was making somebody a lot of money.


Now it's pay-as-you-go wireless with no cards needed, just a per-minute fee.
 
2012-04-08 12:53:46 AM

Bucky Katt: There are pinko socialist liberal communists in Nebraska?


That's why it's called a flyover state.

/WD line/
 
2012-04-08 12:56:03 AM

The water was cold: Duskwuffie: Are people zinging pennies into that thing? Why the strange total?



RTFA


The headline does say "$19.58 in coins"
 
2012-04-08 12:56:09 AM
It's called a value added service. Not everything a business does neccessarily makes money, but the absence of certain services may certainly cause business loss.
 
2012-04-08 12:59:00 AM
I have to admit that I sort of miss the days when you could talk with someone on the phone without any breakups, delays, or echos.
 
2012-04-08 12:59:28 AM
This is Obama's Nebraska.
 
2012-04-08 01:00:14 AM

dave1y: If the citizens of Bugtussle want that 'last resort', then they should pay for it. Not the private phone company.


Am I supposed to feel bad for the phone company being forced to spend 0.01% of their revenue on maintaining this phone in case of emergencies?

$1,500 is a rounding error for telecoms.
 
2012-04-08 01:00:26 AM

HBK: What about all of the poor migrant workers who need payphones to use their calling cards to call home? What about them?


They're probably as old as the payphone, so when they die in a few more years,they can take it with them.
 
2012-04-08 01:00:48 AM
Are they also going to require motels to have a bible in every room?

/ Payphones, like religion, are obsolete
// Operator? Please connect me with the buggy whip store
 
2012-04-08 01:01:17 AM

Wolf_Blitzer: dave1y: If the citizens of Bugtussle want that 'last resort', then they should pay for it. Not the private phone company.

I guarantee you the money to maintain that payphone gets charged to the company's other customers.

You can make the argument that payphones are obsolete (I'd probably agree), but requiring a company to provide a public service as a condition of the privileges granted by the government (if nothing else, their phone lines are probably running through public spaces) is hardly unprecendented.


Actually, the cost is probably being charged to you. Even before cellphones were ubiquitous, and when people were getting second landlines for internet and teenagers, most of these rural phone companies only survived because of massive subsidies from Uncle Sam in the form of universal service fees.
 
2012-04-08 01:02:30 AM
Highway 20 is a beautiful drive out through the sand hills. stop in valentine and get rocky mountain oysters.

no, there are no people. there is no cell phone service. the pay-phones need to stay.
 
2012-04-08 01:03:33 AM
Used to maintain about 200 pay phones between orick. Ca. and Waldport, Or. this was before cell
phones became a reality. I'd typicall y bank six or seven hudred dollars (all in coins) twice a week.

The best paying pay phone ever was in Coos Bay, Oregoin. it was one of three that we had
at a big resort there. It had a misaligned coin mechanisn so that if you put your quarter in there it
just fell into the payphone casing. when I finally got it open, it was filled two thirds with quarters. it
added up to oh, 90 bucks or so. the ones that actualy made calls panned out at about 40 bucks
a week.

mixed bag on the job- it paid minimum wage plus a car and all related expenses- tires and everything.
it paid for my rogue river riverside house (325/mo) and the utilities and food. it didn't pay for
everything else, and the girlfriend moved south. whichis why i'm back in socal and have very few
complaints about life now. awesome job for cruising up and down the pacific coast, but the
weather and the schedule (no motel pay) made it dangerous to get back to gold beach after driving
the northern 2/3 of the territory.
another fun one was going out to Klamath falls to replace a phone which had been literally blown
up with a pipe bomb. interesting how many shards a phone will turn into when subjected to
black powder... that was the day that princess diana died in her crash,

So Have fun and hope there's a pay phone within range when you're accosted by killer tomatoes
and rapists and need a hand and your cell phone's battery is dead... have fun indeed...
 
2012-04-08 01:05:47 AM

dave1y: Isn't Nebraska a solid 'keep your government regulations of my business' bootstrappity red state?


More like a "Keep your government regulations off of my farm subsidies and my Ma's medicare" bootstrappity red state.
 
2012-04-08 01:07:39 AM

gameshowhost: I would ask the same of your grammar


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2012-04-08 01:09:28 AM
Oops, my phone fell into the toilet/was stolen/exploded.

Not to worry, there's always a trusty payphone nearby I can always try and convince a stranger that he/she should trust me with his/her phone in my time of need, even though I am clearly bleeding from the nose due the assault I just received.
 
2012-04-08 01:09:55 AM

pciszek: dave1y: Isn't Nebraska a solid 'keep your government regulations of my business' bootstrappity red state?

More like a "Keep your government regulations off of my farm subsidies and my Ma's medicare" bootstrappity red state.


it went from a very progressive state (ballot initiative, recall, unicameral legislature) to the land of derp over the past 25 years or so.

bring back ernie chambers! we want ernie!
 
2012-04-08 01:10:09 AM

skiinstructor: The best paying pay phone ever was in Coos Bay, Oregoin


Im trying to sell my land in Coos Bay Oregoin [sic] so I can buy elsewhere, so I'm getting a kick...
 
2012-04-08 01:10:10 AM
We need a place where people feel secure enough in their "anonymity" to call the cops and confess to stupid shiat. Do you know how many serial killers have done that over the years? And been caught as a result? Not all, obviously, Zodiac managed to do it without getting caught, but in this day and age with the cameras everywhere and what not? We should be encouraging more pay phones! I mean it's not like the cops are going to do their jobs and investigate shiat, it's much easier when they call and confess.
 
2012-04-08 01:11:32 AM

pciszek: dave1y: Isn't Nebraska a solid 'keep your government regulations of my business' bootstrappity red state?

More like a "Keep your government regulations off of my farm subsidies and my Ma's medicare" bootstrappity red state.


I think that pretty much describes all of the bootstrappity red states.
 
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