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2012-04-07 01:44:09 AM
And this is why all businesses and local governments should request money from political campaigns in advance.

/though the police are probably legally mandated to provide extra security for campaign events.
 
2012-04-07 06:34:00 AM
Todd is the author of "Dispatches From Bitter America." His book has been endorsed by Sarah Palin and Mark Levin. Click here to get your copy.

I'm sure that guarantees that Todd Starnes is being completely unbiased in his reporting this story, dontcha think?
 
2012-04-07 08:54:15 AM
It looks like there was a similar situation with a fundraiser Bush did in AZ. Link (new window)

I don't think we want to go down this road as a nation. Protecting presidents and former presidents is something we should do gladly.

Bathia_Mapes: Todd is the author of "Dispatches From Bitter America." His book has been endorsed by Sarah Palin and Mark Levin. Click here to get your copy.

I'm sure that guarantees that Todd Starnes is being completely unbiased in his reporting this story, dontcha think?


The man is obviously a patriot. How you can question his service to this nation as he digs up cases of Obama's disgusting abuse of power and reports the truth is beyond me. You should move to China. Or Kenya. Or something.

I'm not very good at this, am I?
 
2012-04-07 11:19:57 AM
Vermont has cops?
 
2012-04-07 11:43:22 AM
Why is Obma going to Vermont? It aint no swing state so why the fark should he care?
 
2012-04-07 11:44:18 AM

Aarontology: Vermont has cops?


All right meow, lets not say anything silly.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-04-07 12:03:15 PM
Isn't "bitter America" Fox's target audience.
 
2012-04-07 12:44:47 PM

cman: Why is Obma going to Vermont? It aint no swing state so why the fark should he care?


I don't know, what is Rick Perry doing in Texas? He doesn't plan on effectively governing the state
 
2012-04-07 01:17:51 PM

fta: Trevor Whipple

Putting the squeeze on Obama's campaign?

1.bp.blogspot.com

Approves.


/Hot like a thing noted for it's hotness.
 
2012-04-07 01:22:38 PM

Aarontology: Vermont has cops?


Super Troopers, in fact.
 
2012-04-07 01:23:01 PM
Article makes no mention of when the events were held or why they were considered 'fundraising' events "in the police chiefs' minds".

It does mention that "here we are in April" and still awaiting payment. How freaking long ago were these events?

/thanks for mentioning the unrelated DC fundraiser, though, asswriter
 
2012-04-07 01:23:52 PM
I bet he didn't leave a tip either.
 
2012-04-07 01:24:03 PM

thamike: Aarontology: Vermont has cops?

Super Troopers, in fact.


Shenanigans.
 
2012-04-07 01:24:55 PM
overtime is socialism
 
2012-04-07 01:25:44 PM
The police chiefs of both cities said it's been more than a week and they still haven't heard from the campaign.

Gee, maybe it might take more than a week to process a bill payment through the bureaucracy of THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!
 
2012-04-07 01:27:20 PM

themindiswatching: And this is why all businesses and local governments should request money from political campaigns in advance.


This.

themindiswatching: /though the police are probably legally mandated to provide extra security for campaign events.


Doubtful. There are a lot of events in our area requiring "extra" police support...for instance, every Sunday, the huge churches have major traffic problems. Events like rodeos like to have uniformed officers on the property. Guess what? They have the option to contact the sheriff's office in our county, and pay a set fee per man hour to have off duty officers come out and work extra-duty details.

But yeah...work that shiat out in advance. Don't just provide the manpower for the hell of it, and then after the fact say "Oh, by the way, pay me." And since the article doesn't specify it WAS worked out in advance...I'm going to go ahead and assume it wasn't. I'd think if they had a signed agreement, they'd whip that out and say so.....
 
2012-04-07 01:29:42 PM

Lost Thought 00: The police chiefs of both cities said it's been more than a week and they still haven't heard from the campaign.

Gee, maybe it might take more than a week to process a bill payment through the bureaucracy of THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!


No. That answer makes too much sense for it to be true.
 
2012-04-07 01:31:52 PM
I doubt a visit to Vermont was a campaign event. Why the fark would Obama campaign in the most liberal state in the union??
 
2012-04-07 01:32:16 PM
Ah. It was a speech. Not a fundraiser:

Link (new window)

Freaking seriously?
 
2012-04-07 01:33:22 PM
I bet they weren't crying about the extra security when it was announced that the Obamas were coming to town. Probably just drooling over all the money they'd make by people coming to their po-dunk town to see them.

Wow, It's a been a week? Obviously, they need to storm the White House and take the money by force.
 
2012-04-07 01:33:31 PM

Edsel: I doubt a visit to Vermont was a campaign event. Why the fark would Obama campaign in the most liberal state in the union??


For Ice cream?
 
2012-04-07 01:34:16 PM

ginandbacon: It looks like there was a similar situation with a fundraiser Bush did in AZ. Link (new window)

I don't think we want to go down this road as a nation. Protecting presidents and former presidents is something we should do gladly.

Bathia_Mapes: Todd is the author of "Dispatches From Bitter America." His book has been endorsed by Sarah Palin and Mark Levin. Click here to get your copy.

I'm sure that guarantees that Todd Starnes is being completely unbiased in his reporting this story, dontcha think?

The man is obviously a patriot. How you can question his service to this nation as he digs up cases of Obama's disgusting abuse of power and reports the truth is beyond me. You should move to China. Or Kenya. Or something.

I'm not very good at this, am I?


Heh! You're improving. :-D
 
2012-04-07 01:41:03 PM
It's not the only thing he won't spend money on.

Link (new window)

Meh...it's only black kids and their parents getting shafted so carry on...
 
2012-04-07 01:42:44 PM
Link in question...

Link (new window)
 
2012-04-07 01:43:00 PM

Salt Lick Steady: Ah. It was a speech. Not a fundraiser:

Link (new window)

Freaking seriously?


Do you even read what you link to?

General admission tickets for the sold-out event started at $100 per person, with $44 student tickets available.

Obama spoke earlier in the day to a more intimate crowd of 100 at a private luncheon at the Sheraton Burlington, where tickets started at $7,500 a pop.


Besides the speech itself was a campaign speech.
 
2012-04-07 01:43:58 PM
Wow, the author did some pretty serious gymnastics to avoid stating whether its common practice for sitting presidents to pay for local police at fundraising events. Sitting presidents do tons of fundraisers. There must be a standard practice, either to pay or not to pay, and the standard practice would be one of the most important pieces to a genuine exploration of the story. In fact, if it were the standard practice for the campaign NOT to pay, then it would undermine the newsworthiness of the story all together.

Its the dog that doesn't bark.
 
2012-04-07 01:44:20 PM

Salt Lick Steady: Ah. It was a speech. Not a fundraiser: Link (new window) Freaking seriously?


==

1) At least as its reported in the story you linked, it clearly was a fundraiser "General admission tickets for the sold-out event started at $100 per person, with $44 student tickets available."

2) I'm of the opinion that local police and services should be reimbursed anytime they are asked to take on additional burdens--whether as fundraising event or in official capacity. But I'm probably in the minority on this.
 
2012-04-07 01:44:55 PM
$4,200? A mere pittance. How could you even bother us over such an insignificant amount. Do you realize what sized numbers the president has to deal with on a daily basis?

/wouldn't even cover half a bet
 
2012-04-07 01:45:48 PM

Somacandra: Salt Lick Steady: Ah. It was a speech. Not a fundraiser: Link (new window) Freaking seriously?

==

1) At least as its reported in the story you linked, it clearly was a fundraiser "General admission tickets for the sold-out event started at $100 per person, with $44 student tickets available."

2) I'm of the opinion that local police and services should be reimbursed anytime they are asked to take on additional burdens--whether as fundraising event or in official capacity. But I'm probably in the minority on this.



If they can charge for a 911 call they can charge for overtime due to a public nuisance.
 
2012-04-07 01:45:57 PM
images.sodahead.com
Four thousand dollars? Can't they just skip a lunch to make up for it?
 
2012-04-07 01:46:24 PM

salvador.hardin: Sitting presidents do tons of fundraisers. There must be a standard practice, either to pay or not to pay, and the standard practice would be one of the most important pieces to a genuine exploration of the story


That is indeed an excellent point. That information should be readily available and is decisive so the reader has the historical context for the story.
 
2012-04-07 01:48:02 PM

Rich Cream: If they can charge for a 911 call they can charge for overtime due to a public nuisance.


Governments can charge people for calling emergency numbers now? When did this happen?
 
2012-04-07 01:49:19 PM

Shaggy_C: [images.sodahead.com image 259x350]
Four thousand dollars? Can't they just skip a lunch to make up for it?


HHUUURRRRRR DERP DERP DERP!
 
2012-04-07 01:49:45 PM

Somacandra: Rich Cream: If they can charge for a 911 call they can charge for overtime due to a public nuisance.

Governments can charge people for calling emergency numbers now? When did this happen?


I am wondering if he/she is referring to e911 taxes
 
2012-04-07 01:50:33 PM

Somacandra: Rich Cream: If they can charge for a 911 call they can charge for overtime due to a public nuisance.

Governments can charge people for calling emergency numbers now? When did this happen?


When 911 dispatchers became sexy?
 
2012-04-07 01:50:52 PM
At what point in that story does it state that the local police were asked to provide extra security?

At what point does the fact the President was at a $40000 per person event become relevant to this story?

At what point will people realize that Fox News is only fair and balanced if you already buy into their viewpoint?
 
2012-04-07 01:51:07 PM

cabal08: It's not the only thing he won't spend money on.

Link (new window)

Meh...it's only black kids and their parents getting shafted so carry on...


Since when did small government conservatives like the Republicans believe in subsidizing schools?

Oh I see, they only want to subsidize the ones they agree with, particularly Catholic and Charter schools. Carry on.
 
2012-04-07 01:51:21 PM

Bathia_Mapes: ginandbacon: It looks like there was a similar situation with a fundraiser Bush did in AZ. Link (new window)

I don't think we want to go down this road as a nation. Protecting presidents and former presidents is something we should do gladly.

Bathia_Mapes: Todd is the author of "Dispatches From Bitter America." His book has been endorsed by Sarah Palin and Mark Levin. Click here to get your copy.

I'm sure that guarantees that Todd Starnes is being completely unbiased in his reporting this story, dontcha think?

The man is obviously a patriot. How you can question his service to this nation as he digs up cases of Obama's disgusting abuse of power and reports the truth is beyond me. You should move to China. Or Kenya. Or something.

I'm not very good at this, am I?

Heh! You're improving. :-D


Thank you ;) I'm doing my best.
 
2012-04-07 01:52:22 PM

Somacandra: Rich Cream: If they can charge for a 911 call they can charge for overtime due to a public nuisance.

Governments can charge people for calling emergency numbers now? When did this happen?


Maybe I should have said tried to. Although I do recall that some fire departments charge, and other rescue services, etc.

4/2 (new window)
 
2012-04-07 01:53:59 PM

mat catastrophe: fair and balanced


Fair and balanced is exactly the problem with Fox News, which is neither, but the entire mission statement is a canard. Nothing is fair and balanced when it comes to fact. "Fair and Balanced" was pushed precisely for the purposes of being able to say "terrorist fist-jab" and wonder what everybody's all pissed about.
 
2012-04-07 01:55:31 PM
Is is usual for a President to pay the local police overtime for protection and crowd control?
 
2012-04-07 01:58:45 PM
Upon further research I see that it emergency services that charge for 911 calls. Not police.

/I was called out for being sarcastic on Fark. What a day.
 
2012-04-07 02:06:16 PM

Mrbogey: I bet he didn't leave a tip either.


Given Vermont's proximity to Canada, I'm sure they're used to that.

/What's the difference between a Canadian and a canoe?
 
2012-04-07 02:09:37 PM
A Fox article with vague sourcing and a headline that happens to reflect badly on Obama?

www.stevenhumour.com
 
2012-04-07 02:13:35 PM

Edsel: I doubt a visit to Vermont was a campaign event. Why the fark would Obama campaign in the most liberal state in the union??


To see if he would be the only black dude in Vermont?
 
2012-04-07 02:18:07 PM

FreetardoRivera: overtime is socialism


May I add that not only is it socialism, it is unfairly forced upon job-creating business owners by union thugs.
 
2012-04-07 02:22:22 PM

BMulligan: Mrbogey: I bet he didn't leave a tip either.

Given Vermont's proximity to Canada, I'm sure they're used to that.

/What's the difference between a Canadian and a canoe?


A canoe will tip?

*rimshot*

You know... that does seem especially weird when you consider how Canadian tourists should have a little extra dough to tip with.

I mean... considering they are already saving money over American ones by not having to buy little Canadian flag patches to sew onto their stuff.

^_^

/Canadian.
//In the service industry many moons ago.
///Tip 15-20% based on service quality.
 
2012-04-07 02:27:24 PM
I am surprised the story did not list this as $200 Million per day. Link (new window)
 
2012-04-07 02:29:26 PM

cman: Why is Obma going to Vermont? It aint no swing state so why the fark should he care?


I hear he's trying to secure GenCorp as a corporate backer.

...too obscure?
 
2012-04-07 02:32:38 PM
Sure, say it has nothing to do with politics but then start making distinctions about the purpose of his visit. Would they ask for reimbursement if he was vacationing there and needed extra security around his accommodations? Would they consider a rally to support a particular piece of legislation an official visit? You need to provide security because he's the president of the United States and he's in your jurisdiction. End of story.
 
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