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2012-04-07 04:21:28 AM  

jtown: digitalpirate: If I had the chance to get tattos when I was 14 my body would probably be covered with clowns and bottles of Faygo. Thank the Flying Spaghetti Monster that was not an option.

/Former Juggalo

You could have had that clown makeup permanently tattooed on your face. How awesome would that be?


Ugg, looking back, wearing that clown makeup was like starting a conversation with "Hello, I am a psychopath." then wondering why no one took me seriously.

As an adult I know I'm a psychopath and I go through great lengths to try to look normal so I can continue my antisocial hobbies.
 
2012-04-07 04:25:21 AM  
Well, at least we'll be able to spot the unemployable when they're young.

/elitist?
 
2012-04-07 04:34:09 AM  
i47.photobucket.com
 
2012-04-07 04:35:19 AM  

lukehasnoname: "Asinine"? Really? Letting parents and children make their own decisions is asinine?

Fark you, subby.


Letting irresponsible parents make irresponsible decisions? Fark you. Also, a 14 year old is not qualified to make life-altering decisions. And some "parents" are not either.
 
2012-04-07 04:48:15 AM  

Jumpin Jbot: /elitist?


Yes. Very. As someone who is perfectly reasonable and intelligent (AND EMPLOYED) who chooses to look and dress in my own unique way, I always take umbridge at snap judgements based on appearance. My parents let us do this kind of stuff young, including tattoos and piercings, and we are all employed and relatively successful. Hell, one of those "unemployable" tattooed brothers of mine is a pretty successful lawyer (not that that's something I often say with pride...), so this whole "unemployable because of ink" bullshiat is... well, bullshiat.

powhound: And some "parents" are not either.


Slippery slope there, buddy. When do you start advocating forced sterelization? Reductio ad absurdem is not always a fallacy. The decision needs to be with the parents unless they suck at it so badly that the state has to step in and take the kids away completely.
 
2012-04-07 05:10:01 AM  

batcookie: Jumpin Jbot: /elitist?

Yes. Very. As someone who is perfectly reasonable and intelligent (AND EMPLOYED) who chooses to look and dress in my own unique way, I always take umbridge at snap judgements based on appearance. My parents let us do this kind of stuff young, including tattoos and piercings, and we are all employed and relatively successful. Hell, one of those "unemployable" tattooed brothers of mine is a pretty successful lawyer (not that that's something I often say with pride...), so this whole "unemployable because of ink" bullshiat is... well, bullshiat.

powhound: And some "parents" are not either.

Slippery slope there, buddy. When do you start advocating forced sterelization? Reductio ad absurdem is not always a fallacy. The decision needs to be with the parents unless they suck at it so badly that the state has to step in and take the kids away completely.


14 year olds with parental consent? I think we all know what kind of future these kids are going to have.

While I don't have any tats, I would love to hear some feedback from those that do, if you have a 14 year old kid would YOU say "go for it?"
 
2012-04-07 05:18:35 AM  

powhound: 14 year olds with parental consent? I think we all know what kind of future these kids are going to have.


How, pray tell, do you "know" that? As I stated, my brothers and I have tattoos and I have piercings, all gotten when we were younger, and we're all pretty damned successful and doing what we love in life. As long as the kid has the psychological fortitude to resist a-holes telling him that he's never going to amount to anything because he has ink, he'll be fine.
 
2012-04-07 05:30:15 AM  

Krieghund: [media.tumblr.com image 500x343]


Came Bart's MOTH tattoo, leaving satisfied.

I remember seeing the original broadcast of that episode when I was a kid. I wasn't even 10 but I immediately realized two things:

1. Tattoos are not for me.
2. I can't wait for the next episode of this show.
 
2012-04-07 05:45:26 AM  

MrEricSir: Krieghund: [media.tumblr.com image 500x343]

Came Bart's MOTH tattoo, leaving satisfied.

I remember seeing the original broadcast of that episode when I was a kid. I wasn't even 10 but I immediately realized two things:

1. Tattoos are not for me.
2. I can't wait for the next episode of this show.


Huh... what I learned from it:
1. Tattoos are cooler when finished
2. If my brother is somewhere, poking him repeatedly in that area is HILARIOUS
 
2012-04-07 05:46:13 AM  

batcookie: MrEricSir: Krieghund: [media.tumblr.com image 500x343]

Came Bart's MOTH tattoo, leaving satisfied.

I remember seeing the original broadcast of that episode when I was a kid. I wasn't even 10 but I immediately realized two things:

1. Tattoos are not for me.
2. I can't wait for the next episode of this show.

Huh... what I learned from it:
1. Tattoos are cooler when finished
2. If my brother is somewhere, poking him repeatedly in that area is HILARIOUS


*is HURT somewhere, dammit... you can tell when I'm getting near the end of my shift.
 
2012-04-07 05:59:59 AM  

batcookie: powhound: 14 year olds with parental consent? I think we all know what kind of future these kids are going to have.

How, pray tell, do you "know" that? As I stated, my brothers and I have tattoos and I have piercings, all gotten when we were younger, and we're all pretty damned successful and doing what we love in life. As long as the kid has the psychological fortitude to resist a-holes telling him that he's never going to amount to anything because he has ink, he'll be fine.


Each to their own...provided they have the maturity to choose for themselves. 14 is not it. Hell, 16 isn't really it. I am not suggesting that a person with tats won't be successful. Don't call me an a-hole thinking that is the implication of my post. My issue is with the age of the kid and parents that are too drugged out of their minds to care about their crotchfruit. Please understand the difference.

/although, as a funny aside, when I was in the Navy one of my shipmates attempted to pierce his own penis.
//the screams could be heard around the motel courtyard
 
2012-04-07 06:13:51 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: FTA...The Webster Board of Health this week voted to allow children ages 14 to 17 to get tattoos from licensed artists if they have written consent from a parent or guardian who also accompanies them to the tattoo parlor.


I think it's stupid as well...but it's also on the parents to tell the kids no.

My son wanted a memorial tattoo for his grandfather (his mom's dad). The design he wanted was tasteful, but I still told him No Farking Way. I told him when he turns 18 he can decorate his body however he'd like so long as he can pay for it. When he turned 18, his mom bought it for him as a birthday present.
 
2012-04-07 06:26:01 AM  

powhound: batcookie: powhound: 14 year olds with parental consent? I think we all know what kind of future these kids are going to have.

How, pray tell, do you "know" that? As I stated, my brothers and I have tattoos and I have piercings, all gotten when we were younger, and we're all pretty damned successful and doing what we love in life. As long as the kid has the psychological fortitude to resist a-holes telling him that he's never going to amount to anything because he has ink, he'll be fine.

Each to their own...provided they have the maturity to choose for themselves. 14 is not it. Hell, 16 isn't really it. I am not suggesting that a person with tats won't be successful. Don't call me an a-hole thinking that is the implication of my post. My issue is with the age of the kid and parents that are too drugged out of their minds to care about their crotchfruit. Please understand the difference.

/although, as a funny aside, when I was in the Navy one of my shipmates attempted to pierce his own penis.
//the screams could be heard around the motel courtyard


I didn't take your post that way necessarily, and the a-holes to whom I was referring are the people who do look at someone with a tattoo or piercing and assume they're a worthless scumbag. I just think you're straying dangerously close to that mindset by judging their future by the decisions they make at 14. Short of homicide or suicide, the decisions you make at that age do not have to impact the rest of your life all that severely, it's dependent on how you handle the aftermath of your decisions. If a kid gets a tattoo at 14 of a flaming skull, there's a good chance people are going to pre-judge him by his appearance. What matters is whether he goes the self-fulfilling prophecy route or says "I don't care what you think about my looks, I try to be the best person I can be and I'm going to put my best foot forward in everything I do."
 
2012-04-07 07:34:52 AM  
The average 14-year-old in Webster already has a couple of prison tattoos. This is no big deal.
 
2012-04-07 07:38:45 AM  

violentsalvation: I heard this on the radio, they have to have written permission from the guardian, and the guardian must accompany them to the licensed tattoo shop. I don't really like the idea of kids getting tattoos, but the idea behind it is to keep them from getting them from unlicensed tattoo artists where the risk of hiv, hep-c, etc is much worse.

So, let's see if this helps any.


This

Next up: Legal pole dancing for tips by 12 year olds, so long as the parent gives written permission and accompanies the kid to the club. Hey they gotta earn those tats.

/Oh, is that my seat? cool.
 
2012-04-07 07:42:46 AM  
I am in Webster every day. It's the type of place where 15-year-olds all meet at 11am with their strollers and babies to smoke cigarettes outside the Dunkin Donuts. There are NO responsible parents in Webster. However, Waterfront Mary's ROCKS.
 
2012-04-07 07:51:50 AM  
images.topix.com

Webstah's got three-deckahs. Sometimes they get hit by wicked fyahs.
 
2012-04-07 09:12:53 AM  
My white-trashy cousin talked me into her giving me a prison tattoo when I was 13. It was a cross with 4 stars, which a friend later told me is a KKK symbol.

Whether it is or not, I got a fox tattoo to cover it up.
 
2012-04-07 09:59:59 AM  
Whatever happened to babyink.com?
 
2012-04-07 10:04:06 AM  
Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't tattooo parlors illegal in Mass about 10 years ago?
 
2012-04-07 10:24:57 AM  

batcookie: powhound: batcookie: powhound: 14 year olds with parental consent? I think we all know what kind of future these kids are going to have.

How, pray tell, do you "know" that? As I stated, my brothers and I have tattoos and I have piercings, all gotten when we were younger, and we're all pretty damned successful and doing what we love in life. As long as the kid has the psychological fortitude to resist a-holes telling him that he's never going to amount to anything because he has ink, he'll be fine.

Each to their own...provided they have the maturity to choose for themselves. 14 is not it. Hell, 16 isn't really it. I am not suggesting that a person with tats won't be successful. Don't call me an a-hole thinking that is the implication of my post. My issue is with the age of the kid and parents that are too drugged out of their minds to care about their crotchfruit. Please understand the difference.

/although, as a funny aside, when I was in the Navy one of my shipmates attempted to pierce his own penis.
//the screams could be heard around the motel courtyard

I didn't take your post that way necessarily, and the a-holes to whom I was referring are the people who do look at someone with a tattoo or piercing and assume they're a worthless scumbag. I just think you're straying dangerously close to that mindset by judging their future by the decisions they make at 14. Short of homicide or suicide, the decisions you make at that age do not have to impact the rest of your life all that severely, it's dependent on how you handle the aftermath of your decisions. If a kid gets a tattoo at 14 of a flaming skull, there's a good chance people are going to pre-judge him by his appearance. What matters is whether he goes the self-fulfilling prophecy route or says "I don't care what you think about my looks, I try to be the best person I can be and I'm going to put my best foot forward in everything I do."


As a teacher I learned fairly early on in my career to not judge a student on first appearances, and let their actions speak for themselves. This kind of law is bad news (as I mentioned earlier) solely due to irresponsible parents giving in to what their kids want.
 
2012-04-07 10:39:26 AM  
If someone asks you to permanently mutilate, disfigure, or discolor them, you should say,"No". If you don't say, "No" to a person when they want be tattooed, you are a bad person.
 
2012-04-07 10:39:51 AM  
If I were young again, I'd go to med school and specialize in tattoo removal.

/being a slightly bitter old lawyer better suits my disposition, however
 
2012-04-07 10:43:39 AM  
Great, now kids from all over are going to flock to Webster to get their shiatty Red Sox/Patriots/Celtics/Dropkick Murphys tattoos.
 
2012-04-07 10:51:05 AM  
You know who else was a fan of inking up kids. . .
 
2012-04-07 10:52:22 AM  

RabbitoGarcia: Great, now kids from all over are going to flock to Webster to get their shiatty Red Sox/Patriots/Celtics/Dropkick Murphys tattoos.


Fark yeah!:

i249.photobucket.com
 
2012-04-07 11:13:43 AM  
They should have added in that to remain licensed all tattoo artists must pass yearly spelling tests and know the difference between you're and your. I'm not trying to play Johnny Big Government here and say they have to use correct spelling and grammar, but dammit they need to know.

i.imgur.com

/til has one l
 
2012-04-07 11:34:41 AM  

jtown: Mine says, "Welcome to Jamaica, mon! Have a nice day."


Oh, so your girlfriend is NOT named Wendy?
 
2012-04-07 11:49:28 AM  

DON.MAC: stamp


If there's no grass on the field, check for advertising on the back fence
 
2012-04-07 01:31:36 PM  

jtown: Mine says, "Welcome to Jamaica, mon! Have a nice day."


Not funny. My wife's name is Wendy.
 
2012-04-07 02:34:11 PM  

jtown: Mine says, "Welcome to Jamaica, mon! Have a nice day."


Huh, I just thought you had a girlfriend named Wendy.
 
2012-04-07 02:37:59 PM  
Hmm, I keep forgetting to look at page 2 before replying. Oh well, yay for redundancy.
 
2012-04-07 03:53:24 PM  
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2012-04-07 09:20:02 PM  

batcookie: Nogale: I'm confused. I though minors could already get tattoos if they had a parent or guardian's permission.

As far as I know, it varies from state to state. I'm not sure what the Mass. laws were before this though, I'm kinda curious...

Kids are not smart enough to decide to get lifelong lasting tattoos (case in point: mtbhucker's post above), but it's like with pot - if you are not going to stop it, why not make it safer for all involved? It's not inherently harmful or anything, so just try to get kids to make good decisions about HOW they're going to go about making questionable decisions...


Tattooing in Massachusetts was completely illegal until 2000 or 2001 when a judge threw out the decades old ban. The law now is that tattooing is regulated through the local board of health. So like getting a License To Carry it depends on which city/town you live in. And it can change if the local administration changes. From what I understand "liberal" Cambridge is the most difficult city to get a tattooing license in.
 
2012-04-07 09:39:47 PM  

Callous: Tattooing in Massachusetts was completely illegal until 2000 or 2001 when a judge threw out the decades old ban. The law now is that tattooing is regulated through the local board of health. So like getting a License To Carry it depends on which city/town you live in. And it can change if the local administration changes. From what I understand "liberal" Cambridge is the most difficult city to get a tattooing license in.


That's kinda nuts, I didn't realize Mass. was so strict about tattooing.

powhound: As a teacher I learned fairly early on in my career to not judge a student on first appearances, and let their actions speak for themselves. This kind of law is bad news (as I mentioned earlier) solely due to irresponsible parents giving in to what their kids want.


But again, there will always be irresponsible parents that do all sorts of things, from renting inappropriate movies and letting their kids watch them to keeping guns out in the open to sleeping with their kids' classmates. There are some terrible parents out there. The laws shouldn't be governed by them, though, but by the typical reasonable person who would listen to their 14 year old say they want to tattoo their new boyfriend's name on them and say "No." Catering to the most unreasonable people makes the laws themselves unreasonable for the rest of us.
 
2012-04-07 10:27:38 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: Personally I'm opposed to the idea of minors getting tattoos since they are pretty much lifelong decision unless you spend a nice chunk of money getting them remove.

However, if you're going to pass a law allowing it, this town did a pretty good job of covering the bases.

FTA...The Webster Board of Health this week voted to allow children ages 14 to 17 to get tattoos from licensed artists if they have written consent from a parent or guardian who also accompanies them to the tattoo parlor.


I just don't know. I mean, the law itself is fine as far as it goes. If rational parents are sure that their 14-18 year old is being reasonable and responsible in their tattoo plans, they should have a safe and sanitary place to go.

I'm just not sure about some of the parents that would allow their child to get a tat at 14. Also, since I assume most parents won't give permission, the kids will still be going to the unlicensed, unsanitary, amateur dude who will do a free hand version of what they want for much less than a professional.

There's nothing that I can think of that was important enough to me to get tattooed on my body when I was 14 that was still important enough to me to get tattooed on my body by the time I turned 20.

Full disclosure:
I got a "tattoo" when I was 13 or so. Fortunately neither my friend nor I knew what the hell we were doing* and it had mostly faded by my the time I was 18 and even the scar was completely gone by my thirties.

I didn't let any of my children (daughters or son) get pierced ears until they were at least 13.

I bought my two youngest daughters their first tattoos† when they turned 18 as birthday presents.


* we carved the outline into our skin and ran threads soaked in ink through the cuts.
†after a whole lot of discussion about what and where.
 
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