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Indubitably		2012-04-06 10:35:31 PM

Egalitarian: I am willing to bet that women with no children are still paid less than men in equivalent positions with equivalent experience.

Assertive men get paid more, assertive women are just biatches, that's pretty much the way it goes.

I am willing to bet Wisconsic is full of drunks and cheese-eaters...

Heh.

I a funny, no?

Apologies.

;)

smeegle		2012-04-06 10:37:57 PM

WhyteRaven74: cmb53208: , and some were "outed" to their employers,

If I was a lawyer in Wisconsin I would be looking forward to my imminent retirement funded by the state's various idiots who are just making it too easy.

I suspect that the Koch Brothers do have a few Politicians in their pocket. They probably think they are untouchable and that their money is above civil retribution. And, they'll out spend you to prove it.

oroku_saki		2012-04-06 10:40:08 PM

fusillade762: Sorry Wisconsin, you voted for these assholes, this is what you get.

I didn't vote for him.

/Signed the recall petition.
//Plan on voting his ass out.

smeegle		2012-04-06 10:41:01 PM

Belias: steveGswine: Governors legislate now?

Shh! Don't let reality get in the way of subtard's tirade.

The reality is he did not legislate, he signed a Bill that repeals.

Ken VeryBigLiar		2012-04-06 10:42:54 PM

Speaking of legislation... my new favorite sign in the class of "Get a Brain, Morans" is on Cleveland Ave. in New Berlin near the county line. It's a hand doing a "This Guy" thing that says "We Killed +700 Minning Jobs your welcome". If you're going to insult your opponents, at least get your grammar correct.

/I'd take a picture if my phone didn't suck
//Hopefully didn't leave anything there for The Grammer Core.

FnkyTwn		2012-04-06 10:54:52 PM

The way we get to this point is by having endless gerrymandering on both sides to where you end up with solid Republican districts vs solid Democrat districts.

Who votes in primaries? Diehard fanatics of both parties, so you end up with ultra-Right/Left candidates and then when they get into office they govern in an 'ultra' way.

ultra-Democrats tend to do too much goody-goody social shiat, and ultra-Republicans tend to take us back to the 1950s.

Gerrymandering is the real problem here.

quoinguy		2012-04-06 10:58:22 PM

How exactly Walker the bad guy when not a single Democrat would approve an iron mine last month? Worst case scenario, according to the crybabies here, is every chick gets a demotion now. At least if the mine were opening there would be a job from which to be demoted.

WE NEED JORBS--BUT NOT ONES THAT MIGHT MAKE A LITTLE DIRT!!!

The libs in this state p*ss me off to no end.

DKinMN		2012-04-06 11:02:24 PM

cmb53208		2012-04-06 11:06:09 PM

WhyteRaven74:
If I was a lawyer in Wisconsin I would be looking forward to my imminent retirement funded by the state's various idiots who are just making it too easy.

I'm not sure that a laywer could do anything given that political beliefs aren't a protected class in Wisconsin, and we're an at-will state besides. An employer would simply tell them "Because fark you, that's why" as to why they were fired, and it would be legal. They'd be awarded unemployment benefits of course.

Mrtraveler01		2012-04-06 11:08:06 PM

quoinguy: WE NEED JORBS--BUT NOT ONES THAT MIGHT MAKE A LITTLE DIRT!!!

You know mining is much riskier than just getting dirty right?

Of course you do, you're just using a dishonest talking point.

buster_v		2012-04-06 11:21:04 PM

daemoncan: Whatta douche!

Looking at MurphyMurphy's lineup of the Koch triplets, I can't help but be amazed at the asymmetry of Scott's head. Most people have minor differences between the two halves of their faces (and you really only notice it if you hold up a mirror midline). Scotty's head looks like it's two different people straight-up. Maybe his noggin got smooshed by the forceps when his momma squirted him out.

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Bucky Katt		2012-04-06 11:34:34 PM

Walker is a true Koch sucker.

Hale-Bopp		2012-04-06 11:52:21 PM

I swear I have the worst representatives in the entire country. Plus my county is soooooooooooo boring and we have the highest unemployment rate in the state, so everyone here is depressed and broke.

Paul Ryan is my state rep. while Walker is my governor. FML.

peaceout		2012-04-07 12:02:42 AM

fusillade762: Sorry Wisconsin, you voted for these assholes, this is what you get.

Not I! Fark that guy and his Koch agenda.

Ken VeryBigLiar		2012-04-07 12:07:19 AM

fusillade762: Sorry Wisconsin, you voted for these assholes, this is what you get.

Then would you care to have given us a Democrat who knew his ass from his elbow in 2010? Or better yet, in 2002 when we though Jim Doyle wasn't going to burn every bridge he'd made over the years in Madison and Milwaukee thus crippling whoever ran in 2010. The last gubernatorial race in state was truly a Turd Sandwich vs. Giant Douche example if ever there was.

STRYPERSWINE		2012-04-07 12:39:25 AM

Koch Koch Koch! Boogity Boogity!

After all the shenanigans of the Democrat flee-baggers, this guy could kick a puppy and I would still applaud it. Eff them.

Mrtraveler01		2012-04-07 01:23:43 AM

STRYPERSWINE: After all the shenanigans of the Democrat flee-baggers

Man you guys really are desperate to make that stick huh?

I can sense your butthurt all the way here in MO and it pleases me.

Breathe Laugh Twitch		2012-04-07 01:25:38 AM

Peter von Nostrand: StanTheMan: "Women earn 77 cents for every dollar that men make. In Wisconsin, it's 75 cents, according to the Wisconsin Alliance for Women's Health."

OMG, this debunked "77 cents" canard is still being quoted? Yes, women make less. Because they work less hours, and take jobs that pay less to spend more time being moms and wives. But if you adjust for those things, they make exactly the same as men. Women are much more likely to be pediatricians, GP's, and dermatologists than surgeons because the hours are better. But they pay less.

If women really worked for 77% of what men made, who in their right minds would hire men when there is that cheap labor out there?

But thank you for reminding me to donate to Walker's re-election campaign. Can't wait to see these farkhead public employees lose again.

You realize that women make less when doing the same jobs, right? Of course you don't but please go back to blaming public employees

Right. So, why would anyone hire a man, ever?

Businesses are happy to run a 10% profit margin. And labor is usually the largest expense category. A 23% reduction in labor costs is ENORMOUS for the bottom line. It could easily double profits, putting a business into the "cash cow" category.

Businessmen are greedy money-grubbing bastards, right?

Or is there something less valuable about a woman in the workforce, that offsets their bargain wage level?

Could it be: more likely to get married and quit? Less passionate about career development? Less able to solve certain classes of problem? Mmmmm?

Nah. It must be that greedy money grubbing businessmen are leaving a 23% reduction in labor costs on the table.

FuturePastNow		2012-04-07 01:26:26 AM

Indubitably: Any Pie Left: I'm really at heart a centrist, get-along kind of guy. But I feel the far right and republican party are driving us towards a situation where the only rational response left is a scorched-earth, drive-them-before-you-and-hear-the lamentations-of-the-women, completely zero-sum partisan thunderdome of an election.

It certainly is the publicly declared strategy of the Far Right.

So be it. War they shall have, and we will play the Toque a Degüello.

And so it is...

Scorched Earth.

;)

Governor Walker's last day in office:

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bunner		2012-04-07 02:30:33 AM

quoinguy: How exactly Walker the bad guy when not a single Democrat would approve an iron mine last month? Worst case scenario, according to the crybabies here, is every chick gets a demotion now. At least if the mine were opening there would be a job from which to be demoted.

WE NEED JORBS--BUT NOT ONES THAT MIGHT MAKE A LITTLE DIRT!!!

The libs in this state p*ss me off to no end.

You know that whole "I call everybody a crybaby so I'm a BIG MAN! An AMERICAN!" pose that was so popular in the 00's? Yeah., about that. So, you hiring?

RelativeEase		2012-04-07 02:45:20 AM

Has anyone pointed out that the law in question allows a person to sue in state court another person who "discriminates in employment, unfair honesty testing, or unfair genetic testing to pay compensatory and punitive damages.";

and that even after the repeal such discrimination suits can still be filed in fed court?

When a dem congressman accused the republicans of repealing a law that ensured equal pay, Politifact determined that statement to be "Mostly False."
Link

oh well. Koch, Koch, Koch. The Koch brothers want to deny woman birth control and keep them in the kitchen all day. Agggggggggggggggggggh! Lets burn this mother down!

profplump		2012-04-07 02:59:20 AM

Egalitarian: I am willing to bet that women with no children are still paid less than men in equivalent positions with equivalent experience.

There is some difference between men and women-without-children. But even according to biased sources like NOW it's about 10%, so the real number is probably closer to ~5%.

It's still something worth fixing, but it's quite small compared to say, the pay gap for race. Heck, even comparing all white women (including those with children) to black men, women come out ahead.

In short, the gender pay gap, at least for women-without-children, is not high on the list of economic injustice in our society.

PunGent		2012-04-07 03:41:20 AM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: dr_blasto: That's a bit much. I expect to see shenanigans, sure, but we'll not see any legitimate violence. Those clowns are bad, but I don't think they're that bad.

They just recently fire-bombed a Planned Parenthood.

Scratch a pro-lifer, find a terrorist.

itsdan		2012-04-07 07:58:45 AM

King Something: And besides, the "debunked canard" says that the pay difference is for the same work -- comparing the average pay for men in any given job to the average pay for women in THE EXACT SAME JOB. Of course a pediatrician or a dermatologist would make less than an open-heart surgeon, just like the girl running the fry machine at McDonald's makes less than the head chef at a five-star restaurant, and the old crone driving the school bus makes less than Dale Jr. or Sebastian Vettel. They didn't compare female skin docs to male heart docs to come up with this figure.

The 77 cents figure comes from the department of labor and is only comparing average annual pay, it does NOT compare equal jobs. Studies that compare similar jobs put the number in the mid to high 80's, so still a gap just a smaller one. Even the White House report on the status of women indicated that among young women even the average gap was closer to 90%, it also indicated that women on average (not in that particular age group, so it's not apples-to-apples) work around 90% of the hours men work. 90% of the pay for 90% of the hours worked, weird. It doesn't mean there's no discrimination, there's tons of it, but when it was suggested that the 7x% figure is more about marketing the issue than an actual comparison he wasn't wrong.

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke		2012-04-07 09:59:14 AM

Holfax: DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: I would consider voting for any Democrat that legally changed their first and middle names to 'Lesser Evil', just as a reward for the honesty. Even President Lesser Evil Obama would get a vote. Otherwise, their bad is 'pretend we are 'progressives' while mucking up healthcare reform and extending tax cuts' bad. No thanks.

I place those in the "weak and feckless" category. Both were caused mainly by attempts to appease Republicans so they wouldn't have to fight for what they really want.

After the 2008 election, remember the conservative planning sessions. Apparently, at those meetings, they decided to turn the derp up to 11 and keep it there, no matter what. Screw the last election, as far as they were concerned, any 'mandate' for Obama was meaningless to them. No compromise, no working with Obama, either move the country right or fall and start over. It worked for the 2010 elections and It might take the Senate this year. The only upside of the Democrats is that it might further clean out the Blue Dogs.

'Weak and feckless', in the face of this ideologically motivated program is the equivalent of 'evil and useless'.

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke		2012-04-07 10:08:10 AM

Injuneer: DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke
/both sides are bad
//so don't vote for either of them
///write-in vote against all of them
Thanks to morans like you, we got a mildly retarded president who started a war for fun, and let OBL get away.
We need people to vote, by throwing away your vote, rather than giving your candidate an earful, you let the evil men win.
When these evil men win, they stack the Supreme court with corporate lackeys. You have taken part in handing over tremendous
amounts of money, and power, to the rich. Turn in your US citizen card, or give it to a man who will stand up for what he believes in.
By voting for ghosts, you run away from the problem. Keep running. Or take a stand for once.

Sadly, I held my nose and voted Democrat in every election up to 2008, so I guess I was a man up to that point?

Throwing away your vote on people and parties whose principles and objectives don't meet your minimum standards is worse than not voting at all. Choose who and what to support and take a stand for once.

Protricity		2012-04-07 11:02:31 AM

FnkyTwn:
ultra-Democrats tend to do too much goody-goody social shiat, and ultra-Republicans tend to take us back to the 1950s.

Was that one of those weird false equivalence claims?

I'd like an explanation!

FlashHarry		2012-04-07 12:23:40 PM

STRYPERSWINE: this guy could kick a puppy and I would still applaud it.

i'm guessing you'd probably

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sethstorm		2012-04-07 01:33:15 PM

ambercat: I'm honestly surprised no one has taken a baseball bat to this guy's balls yet.

You're too generous.

JBangworthy		2012-04-07 01:42:36 PM

Wolf_Cub: JBangworthy: Has anyone actually bothered to read the law? I realize that 99.99% or more evaluate the substance of a law by its title. The legislature knows this too, so they can write a law declaring the homeless be fed to bears as long as they title it "The Helping Poor People Not Be Poor Anymore" Act of 2012. I realize that Walker's the ultimate racist/mysoginist/neo-Nazi, but it's still possible this is just a poorly designed law, and repealling it won't have any effect at all.

Just out of curiousity, did you actually read the article? It clearly stated that this legislation REPEALED existing legislation that was passed in 2009.

Yes, I understand that. I thought the context of the discussion would easily imply that I was referring to the 2009 law which was repealled. I'll be sure to spell things out way more simply in the future.

sethstorm		2012-04-07 01:43:44 PM

STRYPERSWINE: After all the shenanigans of the Democrat flee-baggers, this guy could kick a puppy and I would still applaud it. Eff them.

What's wrong with a jurisdictional version of the filibuster? You're just miffed that Walker couldn't ram the bill down even faster, and with no debate whatsoever.

Also, why did the measure have to be ramrodded through despite having to violate two laws (open meetings law, and the quorum), while having a friendly judge (Prosser) provide judicial cover? Walker and his friends pushed through the ALEC-written measure as if it was Obamacare.

Your guy might survive, but his legacy will be of a big-government individual that created a budget deficit, paid down the imaginary deficit with stimulus money, and ends up having his measures reversed permanently.

quoinguy		2012-04-08 04:55:56 PM

Walker will win again. This whole recall is a complete waste of time. If anything, it has galvanized his supporters even more.

Don't Troll Me Bro!		2012-04-08 10:11:39 PM

Hey Ladies,

DTMB just sending you a friendly reminder that April 8th is the recall primary elections, and June 5th is the recall election. As you know, you are under attack by the GOP. Here is just one more clearcut example of how the WI GOP in particular is actively taking actions to hurt you. Luckily there is something you can do. Get to the polls and vote. Make sure you have an up-to-date state ID, just in case one of their other voter suppression attempts comes back into play before the election. You don't want to be turned away at the polls.

Sincerely,
DTMB

P.S. You've got two options. Get your ass to the polls, or get your ass back in the kitchen. If these people remain in power you may only have one option next time around.

Raoul Eaton		2012-04-09 02:32:57 PM

Wadded Beef: GAT_00: But really, there is no GOP war on women and there's no evidence that they are waging one.

The GOP knows women can vote now, right?

I believe that problem is next on their list.

Eponymous		2012-04-10 12:24:31 AM

sethstorm: What's wrong with a jurisdictional version of the filibuster?

Let's pretend for a moment that you weren't in self-imposed isolation in your mom's basement and you actually had a paying job. Do you think you're boss would be cool if you just took off for a couple of weeks because you didn't agree with your co-workers? Would you expect to be paid and then cry to anyone who'd listen that your mean coworkers threaten to hold your paycheck in the office until you physically show up back at the office?

If that sounds slightly childish, there's your answer on your "jurisdictional filibuster"? If it still makes sense to you, take your EBT buy as much heroin as possible and shoot it up all at once.....it's dumbasses like you who are a boat anchor on society.