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(Some Guy)   Out of two organic lumps of Wolverine, what decides which one would regenerate to full Wolverine?   (scifi.stackexchange.com ) divider line
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2012-04-06 01:31:37 PM  
I don't know. Conservation of plot?
 
2012-04-06 01:51:17 PM  
So you'd have Wolverine and biatch Wolverine?
 
2012-04-06 01:56:49 PM  
If his healing factor works like his buddy Deadpool's, nothing.

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2012-04-06 02:14:46 PM  
Anyone read "Old Man Logan". It was awesome. The hulk eats Wolverine, and wolverine regenerates inside the hulk then slices his way out. Awesome.
 
2012-04-06 03:10:22 PM  
They'd fuse back together and be really pissed off.
 
2012-04-06 03:34:52 PM  
The half that's closest to a beer.
 
2012-04-06 03:45:52 PM  

SilentStrider: They'd fuse back together and be really pissed off.


I'm going to go with this one.
 
2012-04-06 03:47:06 PM  
The length of the authors arm, the quality of his latex glove, and the aperture of his anus.
 
2012-04-06 03:50:18 PM  
I can handwave everything except how he regenerates from a single cell WITH an adamantium skeleton. The adamantium skeleton is an aftermarket product, it doesn't come standard with every Wolverine.
 
2012-04-06 03:55:03 PM  
That is easy. Wolverine does not really regenerate, he just shifts the damaged body to an alternate dimension and grabs the undamaged body from that dimension in it's place. That is his real power, not regeneration. Given an infinite number of dimensions he has an infinite number of bodies to work with.
 
2012-04-06 03:56:28 PM  
"The lump that regenerates is whichever lump contains Wolverine's Luz bone" apparently.
 
2012-04-06 03:56:36 PM  
When did he regen from a single cell? The skeleton happened, but I remember nothing of a single cell or even from just a limb.
 
2012-04-06 04:02:50 PM  
Well, at least Heroes had the magic "spot" that controlled regeneration. If it's the same kind of thing for Wolverine, I'd guess whichever half had the regeneration spot thing.
 
2012-04-06 04:06:13 PM  
also, what was that story where it revealed that every time wolverine died he had a spiritual duel with Azreal the Archangel, and if he won he was allowed to regenerate back to life? I know it was fairly recent...
 
2012-04-06 04:11:18 PM  
Whichever one has more cells.

If cell count is identical, whichever one has more atoms

If atom count is identical, whichever one has the highest energy level.

If cells = 2 and energy = same, then quantum mechanics/Heisenberg/whatever takes over.
 
2012-04-06 04:11:19 PM  

scottydoesntknow: I can handwave everything except how he regenerates from a single cell WITH an adamantium skeleton. The adamantium skeleton is an aftermarket product, it doesn't come standard with every Wolverine.


Yeah. And the rustproofing is extra too.
 
2012-04-06 04:20:53 PM  
Whichever part is attached to his brain, obviously.
 
2012-04-06 04:30:04 PM  
I believe the two halves would find each other. Didn't this happen once? Wasn't he ripped in half by Hulk in the very first comic issue that introduced him?
 
2012-04-06 04:58:24 PM  

revvoice: When did he regen from a single cell? The skeleton happened, but I remember nothing of a single cell or even from just a limb.


When he had no adamantium in him (after Magneto ripped it out) his healing factor was amped up quite a bit, and I do recall there was a point during this time when he was obliterated by something (don't remember what) and came back from being a blob of goo, with a caption saying something about him being so powerful now that if even a single cell remains, he can heal.

Of course, the bigger implication of this is that his memories can continue to exist even within a single cell, as he was his old self once he regenerated.
 
2012-04-06 05:02:01 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: That is easy. Wolverine does not really regenerate, he just shifts the damaged body to an alternate dimension and grabs the undamaged body from that dimension in it's place. That is his real power, not regeneration. Given an infinite number of dimensions he has an infinite number of bodies to work with.


You mean Wolvie is actually part of the MiracleMarvelman family?
 
2012-04-06 05:04:25 PM  
"Ordinary people seem not to realize that those who really apply themselves in the right way to philosophy are directly and of their own accord preparing themselves for dying and death, bub"
 
2012-04-06 05:23:24 PM  

scottydoesntknow: I can handwave everything except how he regenerates from a single cell WITH an adamantium skeleton. The adamantium skeleton is an aftermarket product, it doesn't come standard with every Wolverine.


I believe the only reason he was able to regenerate from a single cell was because his blood splattered on some magic crystal that inferred godlike powers via touch. Given said godlike powers why couldn't he just will himself an adamantium skeleton?

Heh, the comic this came from is one of the few X-men comics I bought when I was a kid. Pretty sure I still have it in a box somewhere.
 
2012-04-06 05:30:39 PM  

ZeroCorpse: Of course, the bigger implication of this is that his memories can continue to exist even within a single cell, as he was his old self once he regenerated.


Well, since loads of x-gene types end up as energy beings or just arbitrary patterns imposed on the universe, it seems reasonable that he's more like a pattern that reassembles itself from surrounding materials when damaged than an organism that "re-grows" via the usual process of eating and cell division.

That would cover why he can grow back arms and such without obviously eating an equivalent mass of digestible food, he's just condensing a bunch of arbitrary surrounding matter, sunlight, heat etc into the mold of the old structure. Might count as a retcon for why his power's speed and thoroughness varies from writer to writer, sometimes there's not quite as much ambient energy that's appropriately 'free' and sometimes there's interference that farks with the delicate stuff like memory.
 
2012-04-06 05:36:32 PM  

gopher321: The half that's closest to a beer.

 
2012-04-06 05:37:03 PM  
Goddamn, that character has gotten hokey.
 
2012-04-06 05:55:53 PM  
Link 2: Can Wolverine survive without oxygen?

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2012-04-06 06:09:09 PM  
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Wolverine has a female clone named X23. My question is this: Will X23's hymen regenerate when broken or is it made of adamantium and therefore unbreakable?
 
2012-04-06 06:51:40 PM  

null: Whichever one has more cells.

If cell count is identical, whichever one has more atoms

If atom count is identical, whichever one has the highest energy level.

If cells = 2 and energy = same, then quantum mechanics/Heisenberg/whatever takes over.


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2012-04-06 07:08:08 PM  

swahnhennessy: Goddamn, that character has gotten hokey.


Ditto. I know he's a comic book character and therefore a little silly by nature, but at least when I was a kid, he was somewhat grounded.

Magneto pulled the adamantium from his body and Wolverine was nearly killed, then spent years away from the X-Men.

Then I'm surfing online recently and see the dumb sequence in a recent book where he's literally reduced to a skeleton, then fully regenerates in five seconds. Plus, he's a "lupine" now (evolved from canines) and not even a human.
 
2012-04-06 07:14:24 PM  

MessyDwarf: [images.wikia.com image 541x800]

Wolverine has a female clone named X23. My question is this: Will X23's hymen regenerate when broken or is it made of adamantium and therefore unbreakable?


Nobody will ever find out.

/and live, anyway
 
2012-04-06 07:22:53 PM  
They all regenerate. No matter how many times you kill her, she keeps coming back!
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Wait, what?

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2012-04-06 07:31:30 PM  

null: Whichever one has more cells.

If cell count is identical, whichever one has more atoms

If atom count is identical, whichever one has the highest energy level.

If cells = 2 and energy = same, then quantum mechanics/Heisenberg/whatever takes over.



what does "observing subatomic particles change either the location or direction of the particle thus one can only know where it was or what direction it is goine" have to do with cells? if they are not sub atomic?
 
2012-04-06 07:51:35 PM  

madgordy: null: Whichever one has more cells.

If cell count is identical, whichever one has more atoms

If atom count is identical, whichever one has the highest energy level.

If cells = 2 and energy = same, then quantum mechanics/Heisenberg/whatever takes over.


what does "observing subatomic particles change either the location or direction of the particle thus one can only know where it was or what direction it is goine" have to do with cells? if they are not sub atomic?


If the bad guy looks at one cell, he alters it, and the other cell grows into Wolverine and stabs the bad guy in the back.
 
2012-04-06 08:02:59 PM  
Of course, there's another question on the table: How is Wolverine able to do all of the following, seemingly at the same time:

1. Travel with the New Avengers, as a team member.
2. Travel solo to Japan all the time to investigate his past.
3. Travel with his team of X-Men, as a team member.
4. Fulfill duties at the Jean Grey School as its headmaster, which has included trips into deep space.
5. Run wetwork missions with X-Force.

...But at least he is no longer a member of the main Avengers team. He and Spidey were both dropped from Cap's Avengers and are now only members of the New Avengers (which is really just Avengers Team B).

The guy is everywhere at once. It's ridiculous.
 
2012-04-06 08:33:23 PM  
Given that Wolverine can seemingly regenerate from almost nothing without consuming any apparent mass or energy, the only thing that makes sense is that what is going on is some sort of quantum teleportation.

When he is walking around, he might be casting a large net that entagles the particles that makes up his body with other particles around him. Then when the entangled particle in his body is destroyed, the information is transfered to the entangled partcle and then moved to a central locus - which is probably whatever the largest original mass of entangled particles that still remains.

This would also explain how he regains his memories after head regeneration. The quantum information about the particles that makes up his brain is merely just transfered and then reassembled.

Interestingly enough, this might actually expose a hidden weakness of his - he may have a definite range where he can entangle particles and if he was in a complete void when destroyed, might not be able to reform at all, even if particles were later introduced into the range of his field.

Anyway, could use some work, but I think that's appropriately "Sciency" for a mutant. Much better than the magic alternate dimension crap anyway.
 
2012-04-06 08:49:20 PM  

ZeroCorpse: Of course, there's another question on the table: How is Wolverine able to do all of the following, seemingly at the same time:

1. Travel with the New Avengers, as a team member.
2. Travel solo to Japan all the time to investigate his past.
3. Travel with his team of X-Men, as a team member.
4. Fulfill duties at the Jean Grey School as its headmaster, which has included trips into deep space.
5. Run wetwork missions with X-Force.

...But at least he is no longer a member of the main Avengers team. He and Spidey were both dropped from Cap's Avengers and are now only members of the New Avengers (which is really just Avengers Team B).

The guy is everywhere at once. It's ridiculous.


Actually the same question. When he gets cut in half you get two Wolverines.

There are now more Wolverines out there than Dillingers.
 
2012-04-06 08:55:03 PM  
I've always wondered. I reasoned that it would be the lump with the central nervous system
 
2012-04-06 09:03:55 PM  

TwistedFark: Given that Wolverine can seemingly regenerate from almost nothing without consuming any apparent mass or energy, the only thing that makes sense is that what is going on is some sort of quantum teleportation.

When he is walking around, he might be casting a large net that entagles the particles that makes up his body with other particles around him. Then when the entangled particle in his body is destroyed, the information is transfered to the entangled partcle and then moved to a central locus - which is probably whatever the largest original mass of entangled particles that still remains.

This would also explain how he regains his memories after head regeneration. The quantum information about the particles that makes up his brain is merely just transfered and then reassembled.

Interestingly enough, this might actually expose a hidden weakness of his - he may have a definite range where he can entangle particles and if he was in a complete void when destroyed, might not be able to reform at all, even if particles were later introduced into the range of his field.

Anyway, could use some work, but I think that's appropriately "Sciency" for a mutant. Much better than the magic alternate dimension crap anyway.


I like this one.

No other explanation describes how a wolverine particle would know that it was the largest, and therefore the one that was supposed to regenerate.
 
2012-04-06 09:38:14 PM  

ZeroCorpse: Of course, there's another question on the table: How is Wolverine able to do all of the following, seemingly at the same time:

1. Travel with the New Avengers, as a team member.
2. Travel solo to Japan all the time to investigate his past.
3. Travel with his team of X-Men, as a team member.
4. Fulfill duties at the Jean Grey School as its headmaster, which has included trips into deep space.
5. Run wetwork missions with X-Force.

...But at least he is no longer a member of the main Avengers team. He and Spidey were both dropped from Cap's Avengers and are now only members of the New Avengers (which is really just Avengers Team B).

The guy is everywhere at once. It's ridiculous.


He has access to supersonic jets and mutants with teleportation powers.
 
2012-04-06 09:52:31 PM  
Pardon me a moment while I go full nerd here.

The moment the severing of whatever is being severed occurs to regeneration begins so his body pretty knows where to commit the new goods. Essentially the part that falls off has to die and even if you were to slice him in half there would be a dominant side that would kick in before the slice completed. The chemical reaction wouldn't make it to the other half.

Ta daaa.
 
2012-04-06 10:07:00 PM  
He gets to pick his respawn point.

// enemies are near, respawn in 5 seconds .. 4 .. 3 ..
 
2012-04-06 10:13:52 PM  
Wolverine 'is a loner.' Thus he's secretly been regenerating whole selfs after every gory fight on an off-panel delay. This is obviously how's he's a member of every team and guest star of every book, yet simultaneously there's one original Alpha Wolverine somewhere alone, drinking in a bar where nobody knows his name, being a 'loner.' One day the Marvel Universe will stumble into him and someone will recognize him and he'll be all 'Buh? What? All I do is lumberjack all day and drink at night, bub. I don't do any heroing!'

This also conveniently explains why Wolverine seems to forget everything that happens since his last cross-over. It was another Wolverine!
 
2012-04-06 10:20:16 PM  

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2012-04-06 10:47:38 PM  
Terrible Old Man:
Wolverine 'is a loner.' Thus he's secretly been regenerating whole selfs after every gory fight on an off-panel delay. This is obviously how's he's a member of every team and guest star of every book, yet simultaneously there's one original Alpha Wolverine somewhere alone, drinking in a bar where nobody knows his name, being a 'loner.' One day the Marvel Universe will stumble into him and someone will recognize him and he'll be all 'Buh? What? All I do is lumberjack all day and drink at night, bub. I don't do any heroing!'

This also conveniently explains why Wolverine seems to forget everything that happens since his last cross-over. It was another Wolverine!


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2012-04-06 11:23:34 PM  
If I recall correctly, at one point Deadpool's cellular structure broke down and he melted into a puddle of goo, which Cable promptly ingested, then vomited out. Deadpool was able to reform, and Cable was able to reverse the process of the techno organic virus.

I'd imagine Wolvie is the same way, only with shinier bones.

Also, isn't Iceman able to be atomized and still reform?
 
2012-04-06 11:34:16 PM  

Serial: If I recall correctly, at one point Deadpool's cellular structure broke down and he melted into a puddle of goo, which Cable promptly ingested, then vomited out. Deadpool was able to reform, and Cable was able to reverse the process of the techno organic virus.

I'd imagine Wolvie is the same way, only with shinier bones.

Also, isn't Iceman able to be atomized and still reform?


Dungeons and Dragons I believe has the original regeneration schtick.....which means if you chop Wolverine into five pieces you get 5 Wolverines and you can only stop the process with fire....

Also who the fark put that archer guy in the Avengers Movie?

"Ha Ha!, My weapon was invented a thousand years ago and has a top impact power of dozens of foot pounds!!!! I can hit any target within about a hundred yards and I run out of ammo after about twenty shots.....or if I trip and spill my quiver."

Yeah, he can beat that big flying robot dragon thing from the Trailer......somehow I doubt it is missing a scale over its heart.
 
2012-04-07 12:15:26 AM  
The real question everyone is forgetting about is where do Wolverines claws go when they retract? They're as long as his forearm and what with muscle and bone in there, there's just no room for them. Also, what anchors them in his hands so they don't rip right out through his skin when they are popped and extended at full range.
 
2012-04-07 12:29:40 AM  

MessyDwarf: [images.wikia.com image 541x800]

Wolverine has a female clone named X23. My question is this: Will X23's hymen regenerate when broken or is it made of adamantium and therefore unbreakable?


Given that you apparently think the hymen is a bone, you don't know that adamantium was bonded to his skeleton (as opposed to being made out of it) and that you bothered to post this drivel tells us all we need to know about your level of experience with women, Wolverine and humor.
 
2012-04-07 12:43:12 AM  

Wolf892: The real question everyone is forgetting about is where do Wolverines claws go when they retract? They're as long as his forearm and what with muscle and bone in there, there's just no room for them. Also, what anchors them in his hands so they don't rip right out through his skin when they are popped and extended at full range.


The same place Batman keeps his grapple gun pouch,
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2012-04-07 01:49:19 AM  
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So, are you thinking they have access to hammerspace? Cause, that would be an awesome power...
 
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