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2012-04-06 09:53:16 AM  
I was wondering why the Evo prices had dropped so fast.
 
2012-04-06 10:11:08 AM  
HTC makes great hardware. But I just switched from the EVO to the Galaxy Nexus and it is a superior phone (plus, Verizon's 4GLTE is way more reliable and faster than Sprint's here in Chicago).
 
2012-04-06 10:24:54 AM  
And here y'all had me thinking, "Is & a letter?"

jkovach.net
/old guy
 
2012-04-06 11:10:09 AM  
It's almost like they are in a........ competitive market. Quick, don't let the "free marketers" know this is how things are supposed to work.
 
2012-04-06 11:13:40 AM  
I liked my Desire a lot when I first got it, but the shine wore off pretty quickly. This being my first smartphone, I'm not sure what brand/model to try next...any suggestions?
 
2012-04-06 11:31:49 AM  
HTC makes chintzy phones. They feel cheap because they are. Had the Incredible for 2 years and I wont buy anothe HTC product.
 
2012-04-06 11:40:24 AM  
The wife and I had evo shifts, one year and they were falling apart. She an htc mogul three years ago and it looked like it was help together with gum. Never again, I know I can upgrade after a year, doesn't mean I want to
 
2012-04-06 11:42:59 AM  
I've got a myTouch 4G that like quite a bit. It's a pretty solid phone. While 2011 was pretty much a crapshoot for HTC phones, the One series does look like a solid lineup for this year and I'm considering a One S.
 
2012-04-06 11:59:32 AM  
I bought an HTC Aria two years ago, and it's been a solid little gem, performing way out of its weight class. Last month I was phone shopping and gave HTC the benefit of that experience and checked out their recent offerings. Disappointing was the word of the day. They felt cheap and flimsy and plastic.
 
2012-04-06 12:15:43 PM  
HTC's handsets just seem cheap. Like they have that plastic feel that it seems like someone needed to tighten the screws to hold the 2 molded pieces together more snugly.

For build quality, I dont think you can get any better than moto's DROID offerings. I've had my Droid X for almost 2 years, and the thing is just as solid as the day I bought it. Durable as all hell, and the same case design is used in the RAZR, which I will be upgrading to shortly. Metal, functional, solid, and fits in the hand very well for portrait, landscape, AND held to the ear (yknow, like a phone.) HTC and samsung phones I've always had trouble with comfort holding them to the ear, always feels like I'm holding one of these things all over again:

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-04-06 12:30:03 PM  
Writing this from my Desire, so I'm really getting a kick etc...

Love it. Have been eligible for a free upgrade for a while now but haven't bothered, the Desire does everything I want and is still a sweet phone. Have been looking at the Galaxy, the Incredible and the Razr, but I'm likely to stick with HTC. They give a 2 year guarantee as well.
 
2012-04-06 12:37:44 PM  
Why when ever these types of threads get a green light does it seem that paid corporate shills flock to them and hype the product being discussed?
 
2012-04-06 12:42:02 PM  
Remember, if you get a Google Phone you upgrade the software on it by purchasing a newer Google Phone.
An iPhone can be upgraded for free for many years.

Just an FYI.

http://theunderstatement.com/post/11982112928/android-orphans-visuali z ing-a-sad-history-of-support
 
2012-04-06 01:07:42 PM  
Stop making the next big thing 4 weeks later with just a spec bump
Titan and Titan2
 
2012-04-06 01:24:24 PM  
This thread really emphasizes the frustrating situation we lovers of the "THEN WHO WAS PHONE??" meme face.

It's there, but it's so hard to fit it into even somewhat relevant topics.
 
2012-04-06 01:35:10 PM  
Got an evo shift, piece of crap... Battery barely lasts me 8 hours with normal use... And htc's lineup is so big they dont really put any effort in pushing the newer versions of android to their older device. If you want your htc phone to be better, you need to mod it... Thank god for cyanogenmod...and even then, its still a crapshot.

/doesnt qualify for upgrade till december, considering samsung or iphone...
 
2012-04-06 01:39:28 PM  
Well since HTC makes crap hardware thats insanely slow and uses about as much power as a small city it's no shock to see them suffer misfortune.
 
2012-04-06 01:51:47 PM  
I think it's amazing how quickly they became a household name with cell phones. Even as a company they are fairly young.
 
Zel [TotalFark]
2012-04-06 02:43:55 PM  
Severeal of you are complaining about how flimsy a phone is, and in the same sentence claiming to have used it successfully for 2-3 years...

On the other hand, I'll do the same. This droid2 got dust inside the screen in the first week and Verizon told me to suck it up. Its horrible in sunlight to have not only a dim screen but a thousand flecks of white in your view.
 
2012-04-06 03:00:59 PM  

Dinobot: Got an evo shift, piece of crap... Battery barely lasts me 8 hours with normal use... And htc's lineup is so big they dont really put any effort in pushing the newer versions of android to their older device. If you want your htc phone to be better, you need to mod it... Thank god for cyanogenmod...and even then, its still a crapshot.

/doesnt qualify for upgrade till december, considering samsung or iphone...


We went with iPhones, my wife has the worst luck with phones so I got lifeproof cases (waterproof, impact resistant, slim). I like the phones, no issues with them at all and great battery life. Her best friend has the newest Samsung and loves it. I will never go with HTC again. iPhone, Samsung, Motorola seem to have the best reviews and any of them will prolly be solid
 
2012-04-06 03:36:48 PM  

ongbok: Why when ever these types of threads get a green light does it seem that paid corporate shills flock to them and hype the product being discussed?


Which post particularly were you referring to? Because they seem a mixed bag so far, certainly no one saying "OMG" HTC are the best!!!!"

Or do you think that people saying they like their iPhone is natural but anyone saying they like their HTC can only be a paid shill?
 
2012-04-06 03:38:17 PM  

farker99: Remember, if you get a Google Phone you upgrade the software on it by purchasing a newer Google Phone.
An iPhone can be upgraded for free for many years.

Just an FYI.

http://theunderstatement.com/post/11982112928/android-orphans-visuali z ing-a-sad-history-of-support


I have a two year old HTC Desire. What would I gain by upgrading the OS?
 
2012-04-06 03:41:19 PM  

Flint Ironstag: farker99: Remember, if you get a Google Phone you upgrade the software on it by purchasing a newer Google Phone.
An iPhone can be upgraded for free for many years.

Just an FYI.

http://theunderstatement.com/post/11982112928/android-orphans-visuali z ing-a-sad-history-of-support

I have a two year old HTC Desire. What would I gain by upgrading the OS?


Or, to look at it another way, many people had the original Siri app on their iPhone 3GS or 4 until Apple disabled it and launched the 4S with Siri that will only work on the 4S. If you want Siri you have to buy a 4S.
Great support there....
 
2012-04-06 04:46:32 PM  

farker99: Remember, if you get a Google Phone you upgrade the software on it by purchasing a newer Google Phone.
An iPhone can be upgraded for free for many years.

Just an FYI.

http://theunderstatement.com/post/11982112928/android-orphans-visuali z ing-a-sad-history-of-support


This is nothing new in the cell phone world. RIM, Nokia, WinMo and Android sets all have the same problem in this regard. I don't think it is Google not releasing the upgrade as much as it is the carriers and the handset manufacturers not wanting to upgrade the software on existing phones. I know that when we were mostly a blackberry shop, RIM would release new OS patches, some that we required. Many older devices had the RIM software out there for it, but the carrier, mostly ATT, would not 'approve' of the release on their network or some such crap. IMO, it is likely some sort of collusion between the handset manufacturers and the carriers to get you to needless buy new hardware.

I have to give Apple credit in breaking this mold. I don't know how they convinced ATT of all to break this model.

While not what a typical end user would do, at least with Android you can play around fairly easily with the custom ROMS. Cynogen has made my EVO a very nice phone. All the Sprint bloatware is nice to be rid of.
 
2012-04-06 04:56:16 PM  

wingnut396: farker99: Remember, if you get a Google Phone you upgrade the software on it by purchasing a newer Google Phone.
An iPhone can be upgraded for free for many years.

Just an FYI.

http://theunderstatement.com/post/11982112928/android-orphans-visuali z ing-a-sad-history-of-support

This is nothing new in the cell phone world. RIM, Nokia, WinMo and Android sets all have the same problem in this regard. I don't think it is Google not releasing the upgrade as much as it is the carriers and the handset manufacturers not wanting to upgrade the software on existing phones. I know that when we were mostly a blackberry shop, RIM would release new OS patches, some that we required. Many older devices had the RIM software out there for it, but the carrier, mostly ATT, would not 'approve' of the release on their network or some such crap. IMO, it is likely some sort of collusion between the handset manufacturers and the carriers to get you to needless buy new hardware.

I have to give Apple credit in breaking this mold. I don't know how they convinced ATT of all to break this model.

While not what a typical end user would do, at least with Android you can play around fairly easily with the custom ROMS. Cynogen has made my EVO a very nice phone. All the Sprint bloatware is nice to be rid of.


In the UK the trick is to buy your phone from Carphone Warehouse. They can sign you up to all the carriers, and do upgrades, but they have their own stock of standard phones without any of the carrier crap. I got mine direct from Orange and it has a few apps I wouldn't want, but they're just hidden away in the apps list and don't really bother me. But if I do upgrade I will get one from CPW.

And the lack of upgrades is down to the huge range of phones available. Apple have one line, that's it. For them it is easy to issue a new version of the OS and make sure it works on their older phones, because they only have three. With Android there are hundreds to chose from, from a dozen different manufacturers, many with their own front end as well. It is a far more complicated task.

As I said before, why is that a big deal? The only thing that I have seen on the latest phones that I would like is the camera that takes pictures instantly, rather than the usual second wait like most digital cameras.

Otherwise, where am I losing out? My phone works and does everything I want. What would I gain by having the latest OS?
 
2012-04-06 05:07:19 PM  

Flint Ironstag: Otherwise, where am I losing out? My phone works and does everything I want. What would I gain by having the latest OS?


In my case, althought it is alledged supported, Android 2.3 was not updating on my Evo. You need 2.3 or better for Google music and I think now the Play store and the actual useful Google+ features (like uploading pics to your private gallery in the google cloud).

But yeah, I understand what you are saying. Often the updates are not a huge deal. Sometimes they are. The main problem in the US seems to be the carrier blocking access to 'approved' updates so they can push you into a new phone with a new contract. I suspect if the US were not so tied into the subsidized phone model, it would not such a problem.
 
2012-04-06 05:37:30 PM  

Slackfumasta: HTC makes chintzy phones. They feel cheap because they are. Had the Incredible for 2 years and I wont buy anothe HTC product.


I love my HTC Incredible, on the other hand, way more than my wife's Droid2 Global with Motoblur. It's rootable, and the right size for me (I don't need a 4.5" screen).
 
2012-04-06 06:47:33 PM  

wingnut396: Flint Ironstag: Otherwise, where am I losing out? My phone works and does everything I want. What would I gain by having the latest OS?

In my case, althought it is alledged supported, Android 2.3 was not updating on my Evo. You need 2.3 or better for Google music and I think now the Play store and the actual useful Google+ features (like uploading pics to your private gallery in the google cloud).

But yeah, I understand what you are saying. Often the updates are not a huge deal. Sometimes they are. The main problem in the US seems to be the carrier blocking access to 'approved' updates so they can push you into a new phone with a new contract. I suspect if the US were not so tied into the subsidized phone model, it would not such a problem.


Ahh, I try to use Google cloud, mail, etc as little as possible. I have a POP3 mail account on my own domain and don't use the music player much.
But my point was my phone still does everything it did when I bought it, which is a lot, and have never seen anything that has made me thing "I want that". I have been looking at a new phone because a bigger screen would be nice, even though the desire is already bigger than the iPhone. But just haven't got around to upgrading. I tend to keep phones for years, I had an old Motorola for about five years and my Razr V3 for three years, even though free upgrades were available.
 
2012-04-06 07:03:56 PM  
Windows Phone. Seriously. Unless you're just too deeply invested in the Apple or Android ecosystems, at this point.

/looking at Nokia Lumia 900
 
2012-04-07 12:22:12 AM  
First smartphone I got was the HTC Legend about a year and a half ago. About a month after getting it, the thing would randomly reboot during phone calls. Sent it in under warranty and about a month later it comes back claiming nothing was wrong with it. Even a complaint to the BBB didn't solve anything. With the update to Android 2.2 this stopped though.

The thing finally died on me though about a week ago. Despite having it nearly 2 years and spending about $100 per month on its plan, Bell wouldn't offer me a free upgrade. Bought a Samsung Galaxy Gio pay as you go and switched out the SIM card. On the bright side, when my contract expires next summer it is just one more reason for me to tell Bell to fark off so I can go with Wind or Mobilicity.

/moral of the story: fark HTC and fark Bell
 
2012-04-07 01:02:42 AM  

Bagelox-99: And here y'all had me thinking, "Is & a letter?"

jkovach.net
/old guy


Whoa... I had forgotten Western Electric was part of AT&T.
/also old guy, with bad memory
 
2012-04-07 02:22:39 PM  
Perhaps if HTC knew how to make a phone without excessive curves, they might have more customers. The Diamond series and HD2 were quite reasonable in this department, since they weren't overly curvy.

dbirchall: Whoa... I had forgotten Western Electric was part of AT&T.
/also old guy, with bad memory


So was NCR. They merged with AT&T as a well-favored company, and were spun off as something that was barely recognizable to the people that knew NCR for a long while.

Flying Code Monkey: /looking at Nokia Lumia 900


If you think they're the same Nokia that made legendary phones like the N9 (which outsells the WP devices despite its fetters), you are going to be very mistaken. Even the salespeople know the whorephones are a dud.

/Fark AT&T
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