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(RI Tag)   From the state that brought us "The Prayer Banner" comes "this mural is totally inappropriate because the man and woman standing together 'may not represent the live experience of all students'"   (www2.turnto10.com) divider line 106
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2012-04-06 08:50:15 AM  
They're saying marriage is bad? Marriage between a man and a woman?

It's a freaking fundie flame war fuel factory.
 
2012-04-06 09:07:04 AM  
I really think if the parents and administrators and such just shut up and stayed out of this stuff, the kids would all be OK with it.

Is that how my life evolved as a gay dude? Nope. My life is one possible progression. She's showing another. It's not a value judgement. It's a choice. She can't portray every freaking possible outcome.

So ridiculous.
 
2012-04-06 09:17:15 AM  

edmo: They're saying marriage is bad? Marriage between a man and a woman?

It's a freaking fundie flame war fuel factory.


Seriously that is what is baffling to me here. Is it the "traditional marriage" thing or is it about single parents?
 
2012-04-06 09:21:22 AM  
I like how it's a school in Rhode Island and the woman at the end is dressed like Lois Griffin.
 
2012-04-06 09:21:48 AM  

TeddyBallGame: edmo: They're saying marriage is bad? Marriage between a man and a woman?

It's a freaking fundie flame war fuel factory.

Seriously that is what is baffling to me here. Is it the "traditional marriage" thing or is it about single parents?


I only read it and didn't watch the vid. My assumption is that we can't depict any marriage (since the last stage was to be omitted) because hetero marriage shouldn't be portrayed as a traditional or "normal" outcome.
 
2012-04-06 09:31:55 AM  
I don't understand any of this story. Basically my head is full of f*ck.
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2012-04-06 09:36:11 AM  

Diogenes: TeddyBallGame: edmo: They're saying marriage is bad? Marriage between a man and a woman?

It's a freaking fundie flame war fuel factory.

Seriously that is what is baffling to me here. Is it the "traditional marriage" thing or is it about single parents?

I only read it and didn't watch the vid. My assumption is that we can't depict any marriage (since the last stage was to be omitted) because hetero marriage shouldn't be portrayed as a traditional or "normal" outcome.


I didn't watch the video either but that's a good point. I just don't get why they even bother making anything of this crap.
 
2012-04-06 09:40:10 AM  

TeddyBallGame: I just don't get why they even bother making anything of this crap.


The message it sends to kids is worse than the message they're trying to prevent sending those same kids.
 
2012-04-06 11:59:38 AM  
Some libby lib decided that traditional marriage excludes LGBTQ people, so the complaint goes up and the mural gets a nice coat of paint.

This is Fahrenheit 451 happening right in front of us.
 
2012-04-06 12:00:27 PM  
I can't watch the video at work, so is this overt political correctness or fundie trolling?
 
2012-04-06 12:00:33 PM  
False flag op! False flag op! The administrative staff is deliberately trying to start a fire here, I bet.
 
2012-04-06 12:02:55 PM  

Disposable Rob: so is this overt political correctness or fundie trolling?


political correctness. Its a heterosexual couple. although the dude in the painting looks gay, so he might be a republican.
 
2012-04-06 12:03:01 PM  
Why don't they paint over everything but the first picture, since the kid may switch sexes as a child? Why don't they paint over everything, since it's a boy instead of a girl, so it's not every child's experience?
 
2012-04-06 12:03:33 PM  

Disposable Rob: is this overt political correctness...


Yes.
 
2012-04-06 12:04:11 PM  

Diogenes: TeddyBallGame: edmo: They're saying marriage is bad? Marriage between a man and a woman?

It's a freaking fundie flame war fuel factory.

Seriously that is what is baffling to me here. Is it the "traditional marriage" thing or is it about single parents?

I only read it and didn't watch the vid. My assumption is that we can't depict any marriage (since the last stage was to be omitted) because hetero marriage shouldn't be portrayed as a traditional or "normal" outcome.


That's pretty much it...

Yeah, talk about ridiculous, now the crazy stick in the Gay Marriage Wars is swinging the other way. Not for long though, I'm sure. The Right will find a way to fark up again and regain the spotlight, possibly by the end of the day.
 
2012-04-06 12:04:32 PM  
Could the controversy be about the bastard child depicted in the wedding part of the mural?
/premarital sex is naughty
 
2012-04-06 12:05:55 PM  

microlith: False flag op! False flag op! The administrative staff is deliberately trying to start a fire here, I bet.


Well then let them!rewardslink.info
 
2012-04-06 12:06:42 PM  
So my question is; this chick retarded? I mean, I don't see anything objectionable beside that it looks like it was drawn by a 8 year old girl.
 
2012-04-06 12:07:09 PM  
Technically the picture of the kid graduating 'may not represent the life experience of all students.'
 
2012-04-06 12:07:29 PM  
I am the most anti religious person you will ever meet, and I cannot fathom why anyone would be offended by the fact that some people choose to get married and have nuclear families. Hell, several atheists I know have done so.
 
2012-04-06 12:08:24 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Some libby lib decided that traditional marriage excludes LGBTQ people, so the complaint goes up and the mural gets a nice coat of paint.

This is Fahrenheit 451 happening right in front of us.


Actually no one complained outside of a decision made at the school level by an admin. Don't let facts stop you, or your side from continuing your world of censorship though, Fireman.
 
2012-04-06 12:08:43 PM  
What I can't figure out is why they commissioned the mural at all? That kid can't draw for shiat.
 
2012-04-06 12:08:55 PM  
She should just add one more image depicting the divorce when he turns 36. It would be him with his 22 year old blonde girlfriend with huge jugs.
 
2012-04-06 12:09:28 PM  
Tommy Moo: I am the most anti religious person you will ever meet, and I cannot fathom why anyone would be offended by the fact that some people choose to get married and have nuclear families. Hell, several atheists I know have done so.

Because they're attempting to manufacture controversy.

/The Prayer Banner was actually unconstitutional.
 
2012-04-06 12:10:41 PM  

rudemix: AverageAmericanGuy: Some libby lib decided that traditional marriage excludes LGBTQ people, so the complaint goes up and the mural gets a nice coat of paint.

This is Fahrenheit 451 happening right in front of us.

Actually no one complained outside of a decision made at the school level by an admin. Don't let facts stop you, or your side from continuing your world of censorship though, Fireman.


That's what I said. Are you disagreeing to be disagreeable? Because you're agreeing and being disagreeable.

It's an odd combination.
 
2012-04-06 12:10:46 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Some libby lib decided that traditional marriage excludes LGBTQ people, so the complaint goes up and the mural gets a nice coat of paint.

This is Fahrenheit 451 happening right in front of us.


Ok, I got the LGBT..... What's "Q"?
 
2012-04-06 12:10:55 PM  

Forgot_my_password_again: Disposable Rob: so is this overt political correctness or fundie trolling?

political correctness. Its a heterosexual couple. although the dude in the painting looks gay, so he might be a republican.


So are you trying to insult gays or republicans?

Either way, you're not helping in the conversation.
 
2012-04-06 12:11:23 PM  

kendelrio: AverageAmericanGuy: Some libby lib decided that traditional marriage excludes LGBTQ people, so the complaint goes up and the mural gets a nice coat of paint.

This is Fahrenheit 451 happening right in front of us.

Ok, I got the LGBT..... What's "Q"?


"Queer". They're taking it back.
 
2012-04-06 12:12:47 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Either way, you're not helping in the conversation.


who said I was trying to?

/its an internet forum, social issues don't get solved on fark
 
2012-04-06 12:13:57 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: kendelrio: AverageAmericanGuy: Some libby lib decided that traditional marriage excludes LGBTQ people, so the complaint goes up and the mural gets a nice coat of paint.

This is Fahrenheit 451 happening right in front of us.

Ok, I got the LGBT..... What's "Q"?

"Queer". They're taking it back.


I thought "Queer" was the rainbow cloud that encompassed "LGBT"... How many letters do you people need?


/wait for it.......
 
2012-04-06 12:15:26 PM  
The "traditional marriage" depiction is not the problem. It's that she shows a pair of wedding rings over their heads, which I guess is exclusive to christianity, and THAT'S the problem, as it's a public school.
 
2012-04-06 12:15:29 PM  
FTFA: showing a man with a woman and child and wedding rings over their heads.

Now there's your problem. Someone has been divorced or is a slut. Most likely the latter.
 
2012-04-06 12:15:32 PM  
T

TeddyBallGame: Diogenes: TeddyBallGame: edmo: They're saying marriage is bad? Marriage between a man and a woman?

It's a freaking fundie flame war fuel factory.

Seriously that is what is baffling to me here. Is it the "traditional marriage" thing or is it about single parents?

I only read it and didn't watch the vid. My assumption is that we can't depict any marriage (since the last stage was to be omitted) because hetero marriage shouldn't be portrayed as a traditional or "normal" outcome.

I didn't watch the video either but that's a good point. I just don't get why they even bother making anything of this crap.


In this case it's an overreaction on the part of the school administration. The fundies of course have jumped all over it, because it's a stupid overreaction and the mural is fine since it has no overt religious message. Heterosexual, non-religious couples do get married and have children, and I don't think the LGBT community would have kittens over a picture of two people happily standing together at the apex of a mans development as depicted by a high school student. It's as bad as if it were a homosexual couple being painted over, academically at least; traditionally heterosexual couples haven't really had to worry about things like being tied to a pickup with a length of rope and dragged along a Texas back road until they were dead because they enjoyed monogamous, heterosexual lifestyle. Or because they were white. Dunno if I mixed that up. In either case it applies both ways, and the end result is that this is, at least ideologically, unnecessarily punitive.

The comparison to the Cranston prayer banner made there is equally stupid and over the top, because that was an overt religious endorsement.

/wall of text crits you for 2d12 dmg
 
2012-04-06 12:16:23 PM  

Walker: Why don't they paint over everything but the first picture, since the kid may switch sexes as a child? Why don't they paint over everything, since it's a boy instead of a girl, so it's not every child's experience?


Hey! Not every child gets to experience being painted over! Goddamn exclusionist.
 
2012-04-06 12:16:33 PM  
If they're concerned about accuracy, they should change the last picture to the guy weighing 300 pounds and riding a scooter around Walmart.
 
2012-04-06 12:17:55 PM  
Again, the problem is the religious element, not the traditionalist element. If you're going to flame, do so in the right context.
 
2012-04-06 12:18:26 PM  
I'm far from offended, but what I really don't get is why you would need the last panel at a school anyways? I mean what the fark does high school have to do with you getting married?



Also, the ring over the head does seem kind of an odd choice
 
2012-04-06 12:18:33 PM  

KazamaSmokers: The "traditional marriage" depiction is not the problem. It's that she shows a pair of wedding rings over their heads, which I guess is exclusive to christianity, and THAT'S the problem, as it's a public school.


Uh oh. I guess my atheist wife and I should stop wearing our wedding bands. I didn't realize I was infringing on someone else's religious traditions.
 
2012-04-06 12:19:21 PM  

kendelrio: AverageAmericanGuy: kendelrio: AverageAmericanGuy: Some libby lib decided that traditional marriage excludes LGBTQ people, so the complaint goes up and the mural gets a nice coat of paint.

This is Fahrenheit 451 happening right in front of us.

Ok, I got the LGBT..... What's "Q"?

"Queer". They're taking it back.

I thought "Queer" was the rainbow cloud that encompassed "LGBT"... How many letters do you people need?


/wait for it.......


...NTTAWWT
 
2012-04-06 12:19:22 PM  
I don't have a problem with the mural but I wonder if everyone here who is outraged about attempts to censor it would be equally upset if another student drew one that ended with two male (or female) adults and their children also pictured under wedding rings and it was censored too. That mural wouldn't bother me either.
 
2012-04-06 12:19:44 PM  
Wow. That is some Grade-A Derp.
 
2012-04-06 12:19:47 PM  
She should have extended the mural to include his eventual divorce, remarriage, second divorce, and the following down-spiraling years of loneliness, depression and alcoholism where he eventually dies in a car crash.
 
2012-04-06 12:20:25 PM  

KazamaSmokers: Again, the problem is the religious element, not the traditionalist element. If you're going to flame, do so in the right context.


So what is this religious element?
 
2012-04-06 12:20:52 PM  

KazamaSmokers: The "traditional marriage" depiction is not the problem. It's that she shows a pair of wedding rings over their heads, which I guess is exclusive to christianity, and THAT'S the problem, as it's a public school.


Since when are wedding rings exclusive to christianity?
 
2012-04-06 12:24:24 PM  

KazamaSmokers: The "traditional marriage" depiction is not the problem. It's that she shows a pair of wedding rings over their heads, which I guess is exclusive to christianity, and THAT'S the problem, as it's a public school.


.
.
I don't know what it is, but something is telling me that you have never been anywhere close to being married. Or close to a female.
 
2012-04-06 12:24:42 PM  

KazamaSmokers: Again, the problem is the religious element, not the traditionalist element. If you're going to flame, do so in the right context.


Wedding bands are as religious as Christmas. It's about maintaining a happy fantasy for as long as possible, until the grim, dark shadow of reality gnaws away at that childlike innocence and asserts itself. The part they actually painted over was the next step in that evolutionary process, where the man was in his mid 30's with the preggo belly, wearing a wife beater stained with jello and gravy, clubbing the sobbing, emaciated wife with a partially gnawed roll of pepperoni while the children cowered behind the broken, four-foot tall lava lamp that constitutes their fathers only achievement in life: second place in the county bowling championship.
 
2012-04-06 12:25:17 PM  

KazamaSmokers: The "traditional marriage" depiction is not the problem. It's that she shows a pair of wedding rings over their heads, which I guess is exclusive to christianity, and THAT'S the problem, as it's a public school.


That takes me back to my wedding day, when we levitated giant wedding rings over our heads.

Perhaps you're thinking of the Sims instead of Christianity.

/And then we consumed mass quantities
 
2012-04-06 12:26:52 PM  
Anyone else think that is a horrible mural?

It is stupid, first off.

It is ugly.

And I am not even sure it has a point. Is it supposed to be inspriational?

Haters Gon Hate!
 
2012-04-06 12:27:27 PM  

Mock26: KazamaSmokers: The "traditional marriage" depiction is not the problem. It's that she shows a pair of wedding rings over their heads, which I guess is exclusive to christianity, and THAT'S the problem, as it's a public school.

Since when are wedding rings exclusive to christianity?


To be honest, I wasn't aware that wedding rings had any connection to religion, Christianity or otherwise. I've had atheist friends and friends of other faiths still exchange rings as part of their wedding ceremony.
 
2012-04-06 12:30:03 PM  

kid_icarus: Mock26: KazamaSmokers: The "traditional marriage" depiction is not the problem. It's that she shows a pair of wedding rings over their heads, which I guess is exclusive to christianity, and THAT'S the problem, as it's a public school.

Since when are wedding rings exclusive to christianity?

To be honest, I wasn't aware that wedding rings had any connection to religion, Christianity or otherwise. I've had atheist friends and friends of other faiths still exchange rings as part of their wedding ceremony.


Yeah, I am a dirty godless atheist and I am wearing a wedding ring as we speak.
 
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