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2012-04-05 11:38:28 PM  
thank god that's settled. I got worried there for a min.
 
2012-04-05 11:40:54 PM  
You mean it's not the state's responsibility to tell kids 'no' because shiatty parents can't?

Imagine that.
 
2012-04-05 11:41:06 PM  
Thank goodness for a little bit of sanity. Last I checked kids of an age to be attracted to happy meal toys don't have their own money, so it doesn't matter if the toys make kids want to eat junkfood - the parents just need to learn restraint and that McDonald's isn't an every day type of food.
 
2012-04-05 11:42:57 PM  
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2012-04-05 11:44:52 PM  

LordJiro: You mean it's not the state's responsibility to tell kids 'no' because shiatty parents can't?

Imagine that.


According to over 4,000 responses to the poll question at the bottom of TFA, it should be.
Just over 60k felt the same way as the judge did, so there's still hope for humanity, even in CA
 
2012-04-05 11:48:52 PM  
Hey mom, how about you don't take the kid to Mickey D's at all? Try to remember that you are the adult and he's the kid.
 
2012-04-05 11:48:55 PM  
highheelsandfamilymeals.com

/oblig

I can still remember one of the last times I was in a McDonalds (I've since sworn them off) I heard a mother say this to her child: "C'mon honey, finish your hamburger, it's good for you".
 
2012-04-05 11:50:31 PM  
If you are a good parent you can tell your kid no.
 
2012-04-05 11:51:00 PM  
McDonald's always gives me the runs an hour after eating there.

The only other chain that can do that on a consistent basis is Jack in the Box, but they don't cook their hamburgers fully, so it's expected.

McDonald's is poisoning our kids and luring them with toys. I'm not saying government should get involved in stopping this practice, but they shouldn't be allowed to do it.
 
2012-04-05 11:52:08 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: the parents just need to learn restraint and that McDonald's isn't an every day type of food.


this

 
2012-04-05 11:52:54 PM  
C'mon, TFA is about the judge allowing toys with Happy Meals. If a kid can eat that toy, he can get more nutrition than he would have by just eating the Happy Meal itself.
 
2012-04-05 11:53:02 PM  
A society in which it is impossible to make bad choices is not a free society. I'm not willing to see the concept of personal autonomy destroyed for the sake of saving lives. What would be the point of living if the logic behind this lawsuit was applied to everything that's harmless in moderation but abused by people who fail to take any responsibility for their own or their children's actions.
 
2012-04-05 11:53:32 PM  
While I agree with the decision, the McDonald's spokesperson claiming some sort of victory for nutrition can rot in hell. McDonald's serves some of the nastiest slop around, hence the need to bribe kids with toys to get them to eat it. She knows this, and she can DIAF.
 
2012-04-05 11:59:35 PM  
I can really relate because although I don't eat fast food, I have very good friends who own companies that produce insulin and coffins.
 
2012-04-06 12:00:03 AM  

Shenanigans!: While I agree with the decision, the McDonald's spokesperson claiming some sort of victory for nutrition can rot in hell. McDonald's serves some of the nastiest slop around, hence the need to bribe kids with toys to get them to eat it. She knows this, and she can DIAF.


But she is proud!
 
2012-04-06 12:00:16 AM  
Does that mean Joe Camel can come back now, too?
 
2012-04-06 12:01:01 AM  

Shenanigans!: While I agree with the decision, the McDonald's spokesperson claiming some sort of victory for nutrition can rot in hell. McDonald's serves some of the nastiest slop around, hence the need to bribe kids with toys to get them to eat it. She knows this, and she can DIAF.


I don't see the spokesperson's quotes in the article making any nutritional claim about McDonald's food. They say the lawsuit is a distraction from the important issue of health and nutrition, but that is cited in the abstract. Specifically, they defend their food only in the context of "providing a fun experience".
 
2012-04-06 12:01:02 AM  
If God had a car I bet he'd eat at McDonald's. I'm not saying everyday, but sometimes. And, I have a hunch he would have cool Tom Waits sounds coming from his rides tape player.


/if he smoked it would properly be unfiltered camels
 
2012-04-06 12:03:21 AM  
Public health weeps
 
2012-04-06 12:03:27 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: McDonald's always gives me the runs an hour after eating there.

The only other chain that can do that on a consistent basis is Jack in the Box, but they don't cook their hamburgers fully, so it's expected.

McDonald's is poisoning our kids and luring them with toys. I'm not saying government should get involved in stopping this practice, but they shouldn't be allowed to do it.


You make this sound like it is an on-going thing. If you know the results are bad for you, stop going to these places to eat.
Or do you have Happy Meal toys in the attic?
 
2012-04-06 12:05:15 AM  

Driver: AverageAmericanGuy: McDonald's always gives me the runs an hour after eating there.

The only other chain that can do that on a consistent basis is Jack in the Box, but they don't cook their hamburgers fully, so it's expected.

McDonald's is poisoning our kids and luring them with toys. I'm not saying government should get involved in stopping this practice, but they shouldn't be allowed to do it.

You make this sound like it is an on-going thing. If you know the results are bad for you, stop going to these places to eat.
Or do you have Happy Meal toys in the attic?


I am addicted to the food. As bad as I know it is for me, the cravings gnaw at me until I give in.
 
2012-04-06 12:05:28 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: McDonald's is poisoning our kids and luring them with toys. I'm not saying government should get involved in stopping this practice, but they shouldn't be allowed to do it.


Yeah, they shouldn't be allowed to give my daughter a free toy to play with for after she finishes her 4 chicken nuggets, apple slices and milk.

Oh, wait. I go there because it's the most convenient restaurant on earth and I can have a McChicken with a chocolate milk for about two bucks. I don't care if the meal comes with a toy; it doesn't affect my purchasing decision.
 
2012-04-06 12:06:27 AM  
Not if I'm cooking!
 
2012-04-06 12:07:51 AM  

buzzcut73: LordJiro: You mean it's not the state's responsibility to tell kids 'no' because shiatty parents can't?

Imagine that.

According to over 4,000 responses to the poll question at the bottom of TFA, it should be.
Just over 60k felt the same way as the judge did, so there's still hope for humanity, even in CA


I really get tired of those damn Rethuglicans always trying to dictate behavior to people

/oh wait...
 
2012-04-06 12:08:32 AM  

fusillade762: [highheelsandfamilymeals.com image 375x262]

/oblig

I can still remember one of the last times I was in a McDonalds (I've since sworn them off) I heard a mother say this to her child: "C'mon honey, finish your hamburger, it's good for you".


In the mother's defense, she's on welfare and it's the only food the kid gets all week.
 
2012-04-06 12:08:38 AM  
We've been working on pointing out to our kids that the toys are actually pretty lame with little replay potential. Which is true.

Seems to be working - our eldest would rather go to Subway instead since he likes their food better. And that's saying something, b/c Subway has unquestionably the lamest "toy" imaginable w/ their kids' meals - a cheap little reusable bag they put your food in. It's like they're trying to make kids sad.

Also, we don't take them there frequently, or every time they ask. So there's that.
 
2012-04-06 12:09:13 AM  
I don't get it, but the dollar cheeseburgers there kill my insides way harder than any other food, even the greasiest of Mexican food. I can put back 3 burritos and a pound of refried beans, nothing. I eat 2 McDouble's, I'm spending 40 minutes on the crapper. And I have multiple friends that experience the exact same thing. I've even tried to research this and apparently their cleaning habits for the grill suck, they never get rinsed right, and I'm eating grill cleaning product with ever bite, causing the shiats. But that doesn't really make sense since their Angus burgers I'm fine.

Anyone else ever exprience this?
 
2012-04-06 12:12:55 AM  
It's not the toys but the indoor playgrounds that draw the kids to McD's in my neck of the woods. We break down and bring the kids once a month or so, especially in the wintertime when there are precious few other diversions. They generally eat half a McNugget, three fries, and then go play for half an hour.

I still don't like it [especially since I'm the one shiatting out that quarter-pounder meal for the rest of the day (I'm weak)], and it seems like there ought to be a market for a healthier chain to offer indoor playgrounds.
 
2012-04-06 12:13:34 AM  

rhiannon: fusillade762: [highheelsandfamilymeals.com image 375x262]

/oblig

I can still remember one of the last times I was in a McDonalds (I've since sworn them off) I heard a mother say this to her child: "C'mon honey, finish your hamburger, it's good for you".

In the mother's defense, she's on welfare and it's the only food the kid gets all week.


Are there no soup kitchens? Are there no school lunches?
 
2012-04-06 12:13:42 AM  

Nem Wan: A society in which it is impossible to make bad choices is not a free society. I'm not willing to see the concept of personal autonomy destroyed for the sake of saving lives. What would be the point of living if the logic behind this lawsuit was applied to everything that's harmless in moderation but abused by people who fail to take any responsibility for their own or their children's actions.


This is the same reasoning the the RC Church used when "the pill" was introduced. They were all "Fine, it should be legal and available, we don't want to legislate morality." Ahh the good old days.
Also the precedent for such a ruling could be far reaching. No Cracker Jack prize! No cereal box enticements. What about fun shaped candies? Gummy worms, candy necklace etc. Anything that's not "good for you" could hardly be advertised at all - Especially if you market to children.
 
2012-04-06 12:14:17 AM  
Good on the judge. Don't want your kids to eat crap? Don't buy them happy meals. Done and done.
 
2012-04-06 12:15:02 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I'm not saying government should get involved in stopping this practice, but they shouldn't be allowed to do it.


It would seem that the AverageAmericanGuy cannot make coherent, non-contradictory statements.
 
2012-04-06 12:15:23 AM  

unicron702: I don't get it, but the dollar cheeseburgers there kill my insides way harder than any other food, even the greasiest of Mexican food. I can put back 3 burritos and a pound of refried beans, nothing. I eat 2 McDouble's, I'm spending 40 minutes on the crapper. And I have multiple friends that experience the exact same thing. I've even tried to research this and apparently their cleaning habits for the grill suck, they never get rinsed right, and I'm eating grill cleaning product with ever bite, causing the shiats. But that doesn't really make sense since their Angus burgers I'm fine.

Anyone else ever exprience this?


Pink slime?
 
2012-04-06 12:17:53 AM  
Now that the judge taught the parents the concept of 'No', maybe the parents can use this same concept when kids ask to go to McDonalds.
 
2012-04-06 12:18:29 AM  

Jerkwater: It's not the toys but the indoor playgrounds that draw the kids to McD's in my neck of the woods. We break down and bring the kids once a month or so, especially in the wintertime when there are precious few other diversions. They generally eat half a McNugget, three fries, and then go play for half an hour.

I still don't like it [especially since I'm the one shiatting out that quarter-pounder meal for the rest of the day (I'm weak)], and it seems like there ought to be a market for a healthier chain to offer indoor playgrounds.


Or a decent pub with an indoor playground. Am I right?
 
2012-04-06 12:19:46 AM  

fusillade762: unicron702: I don't get it, but the dollar cheeseburgers there kill my insides way harder than any other food, even the greasiest of Mexican food. I can put back 3 burritos and a pound of refried beans, nothing. I eat 2 McDouble's, I'm spending 40 minutes on the crapper. And I have multiple friends that experience the exact same thing. I've even tried to research this and apparently their cleaning habits for the grill suck, they never get rinsed right, and I'm eating grill cleaning product with ever bite, causing the shiats. But that doesn't really make sense since their Angus burgers I'm fine.

Anyone else ever exprience this?

Pink slime?


Nah, they quit using that. Plus it only happens on the dollar menu burgers, not 1/4 pounders or Angus beef.
 
2012-04-06 12:21:22 AM  
fark me. If you're feeding your kids Happy Meals on a regular basis, get ready to care for an obese adolescent loser until you die.
 
2012-04-06 12:31:31 AM  
My biggest gripe about happy meals? They didn't have 'em when I was a kid.

Yeah, I bought them as a treat for my kids occasionally when they were little, but we ate healthfully otherwise.

They're both a healthy weight and pretty much avoid fast food.

/no I'm not fat.
 
2012-04-06 12:32:26 AM  
I have no problem with this... so long as the toys are also available for sale separately at a reasonable price, so if your kid won't shut up about the damned thing every other kid in school is collecting, you can get it without buying the unwanted garbage food along with it.

It's not quite vertical product tying, because the toy does change and hence could be classified as a "limited free item", but the fact is a toy is always present, so it's certainly very close to being product tying ethically, even if it might not be legally. (IANAL).

/my kid isn't school-age yet, and seldom gets fast-food, but I can see this is going to happen in the future
//of course it's beside the point, because big business owns government now, and government no longer cares about protecting consumers except in cases with extreme media attention, where it might bite during an election. Otherwise, it's open season for anticompetitive behavior.
 
2012-04-06 12:33:31 AM  
If they called them Sad Meals, no one would buy them
 
2012-04-06 12:33:40 AM  

Nem Wan: Shenanigans!: While I agree with the decision, the McDonald's spokesperson claiming some sort of victory for nutrition can rot in hell. McDonald's serves some of the nastiest slop around, hence the need to bribe kids with toys to get them to eat it. She knows this, and she can DIAF.

I don't see the spokesperson's quotes in the article making any nutritional claim about McDonald's food. They say the lawsuit is a distraction from the important issue of health and nutrition, but that is cited in the abstract. Specifically, they defend their food only in the context of "providing a fun experience".


Exactly. They *imply* the food to be healthy, without actually saying it. McDonald's are pure sleaze, almost on the same level as Disney.
 
2012-04-06 12:34:17 AM  
I'm frankly surprised anyone still eats at McDonalds. Health factors aside, the food isn't good. If I were to eat fast food, it would probably be one of the last places I went. And with everyone posting how it constantly gives them the runs, it only confirms my belief in how bad that place is. Why the hell would you guys keep eating something that gives you the runs? I will usually give places a two strike rule. Give me the runs once and I'll let it go because you never know which thing you ate throughout the day was the cause or if there's something else going on in your body (unless it's my first time there in which case I'll never go back). If it happens a second time, I'll never go back there. I guess I'm weird like that :P.
 
2012-04-06 12:38:33 AM  

LordJiro: You mean it's not the state's responsibility to tell kids 'no' because shiatty parents can't?

Imagine that.


You know, getting your kids McDonalds on occasion does not make one a shiatty parent.
 
2012-04-06 12:39:21 AM  
My parents love to take my nieces and nephews to McDonalds, I've already had several discussions with them explaining they will not be taking my children should I have any. That crap is just that... crap. If they really want to get them a cheap toy with their meal go to a farking dollar tree after making something that's at least halfway decent for them at home.
 
2012-04-06 12:39:28 AM  

cig-mkr: Hey mom, how about you don't take the kid to Mickey D's at all? Try to remember that you are the adult and he's the kid.


How about you eat your tofu and let other people live their lives?
 
2012-04-06 12:39:39 AM  

PillsHere: I'm frankly surprised anyone still eats at McDonalds. Health factors aside, the food isn't good. If I were to eat fast food, it would probably be one of the last places I went. And with everyone posting how it constantly gives them the runs, it only confirms my belief in how bad that place is. Why the hell would you guys keep eating something that gives you the runs? I will usually give places a two strike rule. Give me the runs once and I'll let it go because you never know which thing you ate throughout the day was the cause or if there's something else going on in your body (unless it's my first time there in which case I'll never go back). If it happens a second time, I'll never go back there. I guess I'm weird like that :P.


Availability. That's about all there is to it: McDonald's is where you get food quickly.

I hate my road job for this reason.

/I've forgotten what real food is. Fast food ruins your taste for everything.
 
2012-04-06 12:40:31 AM  

OhLuverly: My parents love to take my nieces and nephews to McDonalds, I've already had several discussions with them explaining they will not be taking my children should I have any. That crap is just that... crap. If they really want to get them a cheap toy with their meal go to a farking dollar tree after making something that's at least halfway decent for them at home.


You will never have kids. Nobody could put up with you.
 
2012-04-06 12:41:43 AM  

unicron702: I don't get it, but the dollar cheeseburgers there kill my insides way harder than any other food, even the greasiest of Mexican food. I can put back 3 burritos and a pound of refried beans, nothing. I eat 2 McDouble's, I'm spending 40 minutes on the crapper. And I have multiple friends that experience the exact same thing. I've even tried to research this and apparently their cleaning habits for the grill suck, they never get rinsed right, and I'm eating grill cleaning product with ever bite, causing the shiats. But that doesn't really make sense since their Angus burgers I'm fine.

Anyone else ever exprience this?


I don't because I don't eat there. Probably been fifteen years or more since I set foot in one.
The only fast food joint I'll eat in is in-n-out. The burgers are "all that" but everything is fresh and the menu is simple. If you don't want a decent burger, fries, or a killer shake, go somewhere else.
 
2012-04-06 12:42:25 AM  
feed them McD. feed them 'Lunchables' and hot pockets. feed them yogurt that is stuffed with stir-in fun candies and sprinkles. morans.

children need fresh fruits and vegetables, whole unprocessed foods and healthy balanced meals. if you can't or won't supply that i pity your children.
 
2012-04-06 12:42:44 AM  

Shenanigans!: While I agree with the decision, the McDonald's spokesperson claiming some sort of victory for nutrition can rot in hell. McDonald's serves some of the nastiest slop around, hence the need to bribe kids with toys to get them to eat it. She knows this, and she can DIAF.


This is true as well. McDonalds does have nutrients. It isn't the best source of nutrients, not even close.

/Still, any parent that never gets their kid McDonalds really needs to just go ahead and...not have kids.
 
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