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2012-04-05 11:21:35 PM

Girion47: MicroE: Holy HDR

Link (new window)

I doubt they'd employ him.


i think MicroE was referring to the unusually bright images of the interior. i suspect very bright flash rather than HDR tho
 
2012-04-05 11:22:14 PM
i.dailymail.co.uk
His smallest structure stands at just four feet tall at its highest point. It comes complete with a strained glass window, an empty jar serves as a second window

For some reason I can't stop laughing at this.
 
2012-04-05 11:23:35 PM
Just like a coffin - which is convenient because you are pretty likely to die in one of those things.
 
2012-04-05 11:23:45 PM
I prefer my appliance box fortress. It's eco-freindly.
 
2012-04-05 11:26:25 PM
I'd have to be able to stand up in it to make a serious attempt at living in one. Plus, where's the WC.
 
2012-04-05 11:27:40 PM
Don't you get it yet, middle class? It's COOL to live in a tiny house. That's all you need. Leave the houses where you can stand up straight for the lousy idle rich and the bankers. fark you America!
 
2012-04-05 11:29:24 PM

wildcardjack: Ideally, people would live in the uppers stories of the places they work, eliminating the need to transport the populace every day.


Given the ratio of housing area to work area, that's simply not feasible, unless the living quarters are built similar to what Foxconn built for their employees.

i.imgur.com
 
2012-04-05 11:31:53 PM
That's not even a half step up from a cardboard box. Where does one shiat, shower and shave? I'm sure the girl you bring "home" will be impressed.
 
2012-04-05 11:31:56 PM
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Look here, these walls aren't even insulated. I don't know what the inspector was even looking at. Tear it down. Tear it all down...
 
2012-04-05 11:35:56 PM

Molavian: How long would you last during a Wisconsin winter in one of those?


Friend of mine (new window) would like a word.
 
2012-04-05 11:36:56 PM
I think subby meant "$200 DYI fort".
 
2012-04-05 11:38:34 PM
See, I'd like to have a big piece of land and build a few of these on it. It would be great for hosting things like SCA events (though Realms or Nero would be less likely to complain about authenticity), Boy Scout camping trips, or maybe something like a writers' retreat for a long weekend.

Also, slap on a little insulation, and they'd make decent hunting shacks...
 
2012-04-05 11:38:54 PM
Cool sleep space, don't know about a living space. Maybe more mirrors?


ElBarto79: If you're going to house homeless there are much more efficient and sustainable ways of doing it.



i1.ytimg.com

Golf courses.
 
2012-04-05 11:48:59 PM

Ponzholio: Look here, these walls aren't even insulated. I don't know what the inspector was even looking at. Tear it down. Tear it all down...


Let me tell you some stories I've heard about old Mike Holmes renovations...before he was on TV...
 
2012-04-05 11:50:14 PM
Great till it rains, or you need to crap.
 
2012-04-05 11:51:18 PM

BigBurrito: 2wolves: Go through a North Dakota winter in one of those and then email me about your great $200 house.


Winter is not the difficulty, summer would be. In winter the transparent roof would collect quite a bit of heat from the sun, however, in summer you would cook.


That was my complaint. Yeah, you get light, but that thing will farking cook you during the day, even with open windows.

He should redesign it with interchangeable roofs and take some goddamn thermodynamics courses. Even as a replacement for a tent it would suck ass if you wanted to use it during the day. You'd be better off with a tent.
 
2012-04-06 12:01:39 AM

rmcooper4: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x423]
His smallest structure stands at just four feet tall at its highest point. It comes complete with a strained glass window, an empty jar serves as a second window

For some reason I can't stop laughing at this.


The jar doubles as a bathroom and as mood lighting!
 
2012-04-06 12:03:07 AM
That's not a house, that's a kids clubhouse. Might as well hang a sign on the door that says no girls allowed.
 
2012-04-06 12:03:49 AM
i81.photobucket.com

That place is HUGE!!
 
2012-04-06 12:04:07 AM
Basically, this is a wooden tent.
 
2012-04-06 12:08:10 AM

Mock26: I think that these would be cool as backwoods shelters along hiking trails.

As for cold environs, make them a little bit bigger, slap on a layer of insulation, and put in a small wood-burning stove. There are homeless people who spend their winters in tents up in Alaska. Surely these could very easily be made for cold weather.


It looks to have a stove.

i.dailymail.co.uk
careful, it's hot
 
2012-04-06 12:09:59 AM
So...where do I take a shiat?

There's also the issue of insulation. I live in a pretty temperate area but those plastic roofs just wouldn't cut it. I don't know that one would be able to safely generate enough BTUs to keep the place livable when it gets below 40 degrees at night. A home isn't just a flat place to lay down. It has to protect one from the elements and provide for basic needs. The stuff this guy is building isn't alternative housing. It's the kind of forts my friends and I built when we were kids. On a nice night, the 'rents might let us sleep in the fort and we might even get to run an extension cord out there to have light and a radio but they're not fit for living. While I can understand the appeal of microhomes, these aren't them.

I'd be far more impressed if he was designing/building minimalist structures that meet building codes and can actually be lived in.
 
2012-04-06 12:14:22 AM
Google "teardrop trailer" if this is relevant to your interests
www.roamingtimes.com
tinyhouseblog.com
www.cozycruiser.com
 
2012-04-06 12:17:49 AM
www.edb.utexas.edu
People did a better job during the last Depression.
 
2012-04-06 12:20:25 AM
depts.washington.edu
Here are some more from the last Depression - the camps were called Hoovervilles (after Herbert Hoover - I suppose we should call ours Cheney Camps or Bushburgs)
 
2012-04-06 12:21:37 AM

jaytkay: Google "teardrop trailer" if this is relevant to your interests
[www.roamingtimes.com image 430x289]
[tinyhouseblog.com image 430x323]
[www.cozycruiser.com image 430x323]


My cuz in Cali refurbished one of those.
Him and his wife drive it all over.
I saw it in NJ at a Family reunion.
Rocks balls.
Them things are the silver deer turds of the highways.
/Rock on.
//Jimmy Dean.
///Rock on.
 
2012-04-06 12:26:22 AM

Trolljegeren: [depts.washington.edu image 399x325]
Here are some more from the last Depression - the camps were called Hoovervilles (after Herbert Hoover - I suppose we should call ours Cheney Camps or Bushburgs)


Just call them "presidential estates" because you're sorely mistaken if you think all that nonsense is just Bush and Cheney's faults.
 
2012-04-06 12:26:35 AM
Some modern pallet-based shacks in Fresno California.
 
2012-04-06 12:28:44 AM
If you looked at this with a bit wider look, think of cluster housing - say you have something like this - oh, a bit bigger and with some amenities like insulation and weather proof roof and doors, regular height ceilings... Maybe 80 to 100 SF? Then you build 'em in clusters around central toilet/bath and kitchen/community space. Does this require us to shift our paradigm of what housing is? Yep, sure does. Would it be more sustainable? likely. Would also be good for a vacation camp.

If ya did not insist on shower, 100 SF could have a half bath so you don't have to trek to the can in the middle of the night. Heck, I could put a shower in 100SF if I used a wet bath.

If you needed heat, you could even run a hydronic loop around the clusters and tap that - each unit could be a zone.

Small housing need not be uncomfortable or feel cramped.
 
2012-04-06 12:28:50 AM

rickycal78: Trolljegeren: [depts.washington.edu image 399x325]
Here are some more from the last Depression - the camps were called Hoovervilles (after Herbert Hoover - I suppose we should call ours Cheney Camps or Bushburgs)

Just call them "presidential estates" because you're sorely mistaken if you think all that nonsense is just Bush and Cheney's faults.


If you can come up with Nixon, Carter, Ford, Reagan, Clinton, and Obama based -burg/-town/-whatever names, this is the place to post them.
 
2012-04-06 12:31:15 AM
Bet this douchebag has it all figured out.
 
2012-04-06 12:32:52 AM

Trolljegeren: rickycal78: Trolljegeren: [depts.washington.edu image 399x325]
Here are some more from the last Depression - the camps were called Hoovervilles (after Herbert Hoover - I suppose we should call ours Cheney Camps or Bushburgs)

Just call them "presidential estates" because you're sorely mistaken if you think all that nonsense is just Bush and Cheney's faults.

If you can come up with Nixon, Carter, Ford, Reagan, Clinton, and Obama based -burg/-town/-whatever names, this is the place to post them.


I still like "Presidential estates", it covers all the bases without having to get all partisan, and it has that note of satire to it.

Of course I could be biased.
 
2012-04-06 12:34:41 AM
Might work in the dry, warm places but I'm not seeing any rain screen or weatherproofing on this unit
 
2012-04-06 12:39:21 AM
Trustfund Hippy ...Yea !

/Rant On

Bet the moran has not spent more then 4 hours in his "houses"

As someone pointed out there is no weather stripping or insulation or proper ventilation, given a month his "house" would be bug infested moldy and damp , destroying any of the occupants food and possessions and slowly becoming a coffin on wheels. He is not only a retard , he is a dangerous retard because the right wing would look at these pieces of crap and think that the poor and the homeless are just not boot-strappy enough to solve their own problems and loopy leftys would think they are "helping" by employing themselves in giving talks and "designing" and advocating this garbage and think they would be helping the homeless or anyone by pushing this crap ..
Cardboard box would be better . He should be raped by hobos for being the tard that he is

/ was homeless for a number of years
// Rant off
 
2012-04-06 12:45:48 AM
There are all kinds of tiny houses that are designed as complete living spaces. Some of them are quite nice. In fact, I find most homes too large for my taste.
This guys point seems to be concerning the use of available resources and not small space living.
 
2012-04-06 12:47:50 AM

rickycal78: Trolljegeren: rickycal78: Trolljegeren: [depts.washington.edu image 399x325]
Here are some more from the last Depression - the camps were called Hoovervilles (after Herbert Hoover - I suppose we should call ours Cheney Camps or Bushburgs)

Just call them "presidential estates" because you're sorely mistaken if you think all that nonsense is just Bush and Cheney's faults.

If you can come up with Nixon, Carter, Ford, Reagan, Clinton, and Obama based -burg/-town/-whatever names, this is the place to post them.

I still like "Presidential estates", it covers all the bases without having to get all partisan, and it has that note of satire to it.

Of course I could be biased.


I'm thinking FEMA Camps.
 
2012-04-06 12:50:12 AM
Put five feet of snow on it and get back to me. 60 bucks buys you a woodstove that's
a one foot cylinder twol feet tall at a local surplus store. insulation, well, that's another thing.
the pioneers in our area used a double wall filled with sawdust , this kept ice from
melting till midsummer when a buyer could be found for the ice. I suspect that this
would work well until it caught on fire... at this second i'm barbecuing in 28 degree
weather waiting for the sesame ginger chicken to finish up...

Don't forget food mountain for the kitties...
 
2012-04-06 12:59:32 AM
If you own the land, wouldn't it be better to build an underground Hobbit hole?
/with a skylight of course
 
2012-04-06 01:06:43 AM

Molavian: How long would you last during a Wisconsin winter in one of those?


Let's send one to that guy from Bon Iver and find out.
 
2012-04-06 01:08:36 AM

Lsherm: BigBurrito: 2wolves: Go through a North Dakota winter in one of those and then email me about your great $200 house.


Winter is not the difficulty, summer would be. In winter the transparent roof would collect quite a bit of heat from the sun, however, in summer you would cook.

That was my complaint. Yeah, you get light, but that thing will farking cook you during the day, even with open windows.

He should redesign it with interchangeable roofs and take some goddamn thermodynamics courses. Even as a replacement for a tent it would suck ass if you wanted to use it during the day. You'd be better off with a tent.


Just drag your house into the shade of a tree. That will stop the solar cooking.
 
2012-04-06 01:13:54 AM

Mock26: Lsherm: BigBurrito: 2wolves: Go through a North Dakota winter in one of those and then email me about your great $200 house.


Winter is not the difficulty, summer would be. In winter the transparent roof would collect quite a bit of heat from the sun, however, in summer you would cook.

That was my complaint. Yeah, you get light, but that thing will farking cook you during the day, even with open windows.

He should redesign it with interchangeable roofs and take some goddamn thermodynamics courses. Even as a replacement for a tent it would suck ass if you wanted to use it during the day. You'd be better off with a tent.

Just drag your house into the shade of a tree. That will stop the solar cooking.


No, it won't.

You knew that, didn't you?
 
2012-04-06 01:15:18 AM
Letsee... small live-in shacks made out of discarded junk worth at best a few hundred bucks? I think I've seen whole communities of this in Manila, Rio and South African townships. I believe they are called squatter settlements.

Or a more general term of use... "slums".

Granted this is nicer. But yeah, this is basically a white American middle-class version of a third world hell hole squatter hut.
 
2012-04-06 01:21:10 AM
Yea I've seen those there called cubby houses
 
2012-04-06 01:22:23 AM

jaylectricity: That's not shelter, it's art.


I think a few around a big warehouse apartment would be cool. Maybe a little bigger, no doors but decked out like these...would make nice little places to relax.
 
2012-04-06 01:23:17 AM
images.t-nation.com

"Where's yah shiattah?"
 
2012-04-06 01:40:13 AM
Burt Munro laughs at your crappy little shed you can't even fit a proper motorbike in...

encrypted-tbn0.google.com
 
2012-04-06 01:58:19 AM

Lsherm: Mock26: Lsherm: BigBurrito: 2wolves: Go through a North Dakota winter in one of those and then email me about your great $200 house.


Winter is not the difficulty, summer would be. In winter the transparent roof would collect quite a bit of heat from the sun, however, in summer you would cook.

That was my complaint. Yeah, you get light, but that thing will farking cook you during the day, even with open windows.

He should redesign it with interchangeable roofs and take some goddamn thermodynamics courses. Even as a replacement for a tent it would suck ass if you wanted to use it during the day. You'd be better off with a tent.

Just drag your house into the shade of a tree. That will stop the solar cooking.

No, it won't.

You knew that, didn't you?


Have you ever been standing in the sun on a really hot day and then moved into the shade? It was cooler in the shade, right? Every parked your car out in the open under the sun on a hot day and then gotten inside? Ever done parked your car in the shade on a hot day and then gotten inside? Which was cooler? I will give you a hint: It was not the car that had been sitting in the sun all day.

Direct sunlight, kind of funny that way, eh?
 
2012-04-06 02:06:42 AM

Mock26: Lsherm: Mock26: Lsherm: BigBurrito: 2wolves: Go through a North Dakota winter in one of those and then email me about your great $200 house.


Winter is not the difficulty, summer would be. In winter the transparent roof would collect quite a bit of heat from the sun, however, in summer you would cook.

That was my complaint. Yeah, you get light, but that thing will farking cook you during the day, even with open windows.

He should redesign it with interchangeable roofs and take some goddamn thermodynamics courses. Even as a replacement for a tent it would suck ass if you wanted to use it during the day. You'd be better off with a tent.

Just drag your house into the shade of a tree. That will stop the solar cooking.

No, it won't.

You knew that, didn't you?

Have you ever been standing in the sun on a really hot day and then moved into the shade? It was cooler in the shade, right? Every parked your car out in the open under the sun on a hot day and then gotten inside? Ever done parked your car in the shade on a hot day and then gotten inside? Which was cooler? I will give you a hint: It was not the car that had been sitting in the sun all day.

Direct sunlight, kind of funny that way, eh?


*sigh*

I guess you didn't.
 
2012-04-06 02:14:06 AM
If there's no place to shiat, it's not a house.

Electricity would also be nice, mind you.
 
2012-04-06 02:29:09 AM

Lsherm: Mock26: Lsherm: Mock26: Lsherm: BigBurrito: 2wolves: Go through a North Dakota winter in one of those and then email me about your great $200 house.


Winter is not the difficulty, summer would be. In winter the transparent roof would collect quite a bit of heat from the sun, however, in summer you would cook.

That was my complaint. Yeah, you get light, but that thing will farking cook you during the day, even with open windows.

He should redesign it with interchangeable roofs and take some goddamn thermodynamics courses. Even as a replacement for a tent it would suck ass if you wanted to use it during the day. You'd be better off with a tent.

Just drag your house into the shade of a tree. That will stop the solar cooking.

No, it won't.

You knew that, didn't you?

Have you ever been standing in the sun on a really hot day and then moved into the shade? It was cooler in the shade, right? Every parked your car out in the open under the sun on a hot day and then gotten inside? Ever done parked your car in the shade on a hot day and then gotten inside? Which was cooler? I will give you a hint: It was not the car that had been sitting in the sun all day.

Direct sunlight, kind of funny that way, eh?

*sigh*

I guess you didn't.


The assertion was that the transparent roof would collect too much heat and turn the hut into an oven during the summer. So what is the difference between putting on a non-transparent roof and moving it into the shade? Go ahead, enlighten me.
 
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