Don't worry, submitter. Manson will never be released. For starters, he's made it abundantly clear that he will return to his life of crime if ever release. Then there's the fact that he doesn't really want to be released from prison. He's said that more than once.

He won't leave prison until he dies.

Bathia_Mapes: Don't worry, submitter. Manson will never be released. For starters, he's made it abundantly clear that he will return to his life of crime if ever release. Then there's the fact that he doesn't really want to be released from prison. He's said that more than once.

He won't leave prison until he dies.

And maybe not even then

/just toss him on the compost pile

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Bathia_Mapes: Don't worry, submitter. Manson will never be released. For starters, he's made it abundantly clear that he will return to his life of crime if ever release. Then there's the fact that he doesn't really want to be released from prison. He's said that more than once.

He won't leave prison until he dies.

And maybe not even then

/just toss him on the compost pile

Heh!

Charlie isn't going anywhere.

2wolves: Charlie isn't going anywhere.

And especially not surfing

I'm just waiting for all the folks who bleat about criminal law around here to come in and say how he's served his debt to society and looks like a broken man and so on.

If i believed in hell, I'd tell him to burn in it.

He has served his debt to society. He looks like a broken old man. So on.

GAT_00: doglover: GAT_00: Bathia_Mapes: Don't worry, submitter. Manson will never be released. For starters, he's made it abundantly clear that he will return to his life of crime if ever release. Then there's the fact that he doesn't really want to be released from prison. He's said that more than once.

He won't leave prison until he dies.

I don't think you can actually choose to stay in jail.

That's because you're uncreative and myopic.

On one hand, you can't choose to stay in jail just by saying "I choose to stay in jail."

On the other hand, tell a judge something like "I can't wait to get out of here. I've always wanted to tie a baby to a goat so I could rape both of them at the same time before I take my (weapon) to (politician)'s house and cause some serious damage." and you'll stay.

If your sentence is up, your sentence is up.

Unless, of course, you commit another crime while in the clink, in which case you get extra innings.

In Manson's case, he;s serving life upon life upon life, so parole is the only way. He knows what to say to get denied.

GAT_00: Benevolent Misanthrope: Unless, of course, you commit another crime while in the clink, in which case you get extra innings.

There is that. But is he even in gen pop so he could stab someone?

Doubtful. I imagine they keep him away from the rest of the inmates. But, as I said - he's serving so many life sentences that parole is his only way out now. And I don't think there's a chance of it - either they will flat-out deny him because he's CHARLES FARKING MANSON, or he'll make damn sure they do by essentially being Charles Farking Manson.

He was taken out of Gen Pop after some guy doused him in paint thinner and set him on fire.

No one on the parole board will ever let Charlie out on their watch.

GAT_00: Bathia_Mapes: Don't worry, submitter. Manson will never be released. For starters, he's made it abundantly clear that he will return to his life of crime if ever release. Then there's the fact that he doesn't really want to be released from prison. He's said that more than once.

He won't leave prison until he dies.

I don't think you can actually choose to stay in jail.

Oh, I'm pretty sure he'd find a way to commit a crime in order to stay in prison. Manson is uber-manipulative.

He's currently incarcerated in California State Prison, Cocoran, but he's not in general population.

He's in what's called "Security Housing Units", which Wikipedia describes as follows:

Security Housing Units, "the most secure area[s] within a Level IV prison designed to provide maximum coverage." Among these units is the Protective Housing Unit which holds up to 47 prisoners who require "extraordinary protection from other prisoners." The Protective Housing Unit has been described as "strikingly calm" because inmates "don't want to be moved somewhere less guarded." One violent incident occurred in March 1999 when three inmates attacked inmate Juan Corona, inflicting minor injuries, and smashed Charles Manson's guitar. Three other Protective Housing Unit inmates suffered minor injuries.

Still that doesn't stop him from being manipulative and using outside sources to get what he wants. In 2009 he got caught with a cell phone. He contacted people in California, New Jersey, Florida and British Columbia, but it's unknown whether these calls were for criminal purposes. He also got caught with a homemade weapon in his cell this past October. He's considered a problem prisoner. Being in secure housing unit also lessens escape attempts by either Manson directly, or his followers on the outside.

Bathia_Mapes: or his followers on the outside.

Shudder. You think they would have caught on by now that he's a nutter. But I guess they are nutty, too.

doglover: You know, we should just give problem prisoners 24 hour uninterrupted internet access ...

Prisoners should be forced to remotely man machine gun nests along the U.S. Mexican border.

/1 month off their sentence for every illegal they bag

Spoon over Marin: Bathia_Mapes: or his followers on the outside.

Shudder. You think they would have caught on by now that he's a nutter. But I guess they are nutty, too.

Years ago there were a group of teens on a talk show that were Manson followers, the oldest being around 16. And these kids weren't even born when Manson and his followers committed their atrocities. They looked up to Manson as though he was their personal god.

Bathia_Mapes: GAT_00: Bathia_Mapes: Don't worry, submitter. Manson will never be released. For starters, he's made it abundantly clear that he will return to his life of crime if ever release. Then there's the fact that he doesn't really want to be released from prison. He's said that more than once.

He won't leave prison until he dies.

I don't think you can actually choose to stay in jail.

Oh, I'm pretty sure he'd find a way to commit a crime in order to stay in prison. Manson is uber-manipulative.

He's currently incarcerated in California State Prison, Cocoran, but he's not in general population.

He's in what's called "Security Housing Units", which Wikipedia describes as follows:

Security Housing Units, "the most secure area[s] within a Level IV prison designed to provide maximum coverage." Among these units is the Protective Housing Unit which holds up to 47 prisoners who require "extraordinary protection from other prisoners." The Protective Housing Unit has been described as "strikingly calm" because inmates "don't want to be moved somewhere less guarded." One violent incident occurred in March 1999 when three inmates attacked inmate Juan Corona, inflicting minor injuries, and smashed Charles Manson's guitar. Three other Protective Housing Unit inmates suffered minor injuries.

Still that doesn't stop him from being manipulative and using outside sources to get what he wants. In 2009 he got caught with a cell phone. He contacted people in California, New Jersey, Florida and British Columbia, but it's unknown whether these calls were for criminal purposes. He also got caught with a homemade weapon in his cell this past October. He's considered a problem prisoner. Being in secure housing unit also lessens escape attempts by either Manson directly, or his followers on the outside.

I'm not sure how many followers he has left

/hell, the only reason Lynette Fromme is still "Squeaky" is rust

The odd thing is - he didn't kill anyone. It's not even like a mob boss where he ordered an underling to kill, on the implicit thread that the underling would be killed if s/he disobeyed. I think he just acts crazy in prison to ease the boredom.

syrynxx: The odd thing is - he didn't kill anyone.

Helter skelter.

Manson may as well stay in prison. He'll be dead within 24 hours of hitting the street, and probably not very pleasantly, I'd think. Not that anyone would care, but it's not like he's got anyone waiting to take care of him out in the world. He's an old man, probably not in the best of health, and if my tax dollars have to take care of him, I'd just as soon it was in prison as in a nursing home.

Anyone who is sending him fan mail will have the illusion abruptly shattered when they meet him in real life.

He was good at manipulating people before, but now he's not fooling anyone.

He shows his level of intelligence in that he hasn't attended one of his parole hearings since '97. He is clearly insane, but he knows he is never leaving.

doglover: Brilliant idea. Let's put murderers and trouble makers in charge of the DEFENSE of our country and let's give them access to machine guns. No problems could POSSIBLY arise.



However injecting them with microscopic explosives would probably be considered unethical.

TheMysteriousStranger: Why is he in jail? He can't possibly be a scary man. He is not even wearing a hoodie.

He'd wear one if he was out, though. You can just tell.