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2012-04-04 10:37:24 PM
That's because Bill Ayers has never done anything for his country except to biatch about it.
I'm sure that he feels if he keeps pointing at other people no one will realize what a coward he really is.
 
2012-04-04 10:47:21 PM
Once a douche, always a douche.
 
2012-04-04 10:56:46 PM
P.O.S.
 
2012-04-04 11:03:13 PM
Lack of RTFA is strong in this thread.
 
2012-04-04 11:03:35 PM
I don't see the point either. Really, why?
 
2012-04-04 11:12:48 PM

GAT_00: I don't see the point either. Really, why?


Useless pandering symbolism?
 
MBK [TotalFark]
2012-04-04 11:13:46 PM

GAT_00: I don't see the point either. Really, why?


Because they deserve it?
 
2012-04-04 11:16:44 PM

MBK: GAT_00: I don't see the point either. Really, why?

Because they deserve it?


He's got a point. Why do we say the military deserves special recognition yet teachers don't?
 
2012-04-04 11:27:13 PM
Traveling around all the time, living in airport USO lounges between flights because they can't really afford a motel, or there really isn't enough time to justify a motel, but ALMOST. After the 5th tour of duty in combat with all the goddamn connecting flights and they just want to get on the plane and see their families, I think us smug shiats can board second.
 
2012-04-04 11:32:25 PM

MBK: GAT_00: I don't see the point either. Really, why?

Because they deserve it?


Why? That's his whole point. We are a militaristic society that honors people for joining up to an organization who's purpose it to kill people. It's one thing to recognize the importance of such an institution, it's another thing to fetishize it.
 
MBK [TotalFark]
2012-04-04 11:37:36 PM

GAT_00: He's got a point. Why do we say the military deserves special recognition yet teachers don't?


Because teachers don't have to travel thousands of miles from home, leaving friends and family behind, to fight in warzones and risking their lives because some old rich guys wanted to go to war.
 
2012-04-04 11:38:10 PM
www.nndb.com
 
2012-04-04 11:40:40 PM

MBK: GAT_00: He's got a point. Why do we say the military deserves special recognition yet teachers don't?

Because teachers don't have to travel thousands of miles from home, leaving friends and family behind, to fight in warzones and risking their lives because some old rich guys wanted to go to war.


So? They knew what they were getting into. They chose it. It's not like they were forced into the Army.
 
MBK [TotalFark]
2012-04-04 11:42:34 PM

DamnYankees: Why? That's his whole point. We are a militaristic society that honors people for joining up to an organization who's purpose it to kill people. It's one thing to recognize the importance of such an institution, it's another thing to fetishize it.


We are giving them first access to board a plane.

We aren't allowing them to fark our virgin wives on our wedding night.

Jesus Christ, pick and choose your fights. When you pick THIS fight, you sound like whiny liberal douchebags who give other liberal douchebags (like myself) a bad name.
 
2012-04-04 11:44:46 PM

MBK: We are giving them first access to board a plane.


It's an example of a larger argument. It's not the argument itself.
 
2012-04-04 11:44:56 PM
Why does Bill Ayers hate America and the troops?
 
2012-04-04 11:45:16 PM
Because teachers don't have to travel thousands of miles from home, leaving friends and family behind, to fight in warzones and risking their lives because some old rich guys wanted to go to war.

Well you obviously didn't grow up in my neighborhood
 
2012-04-04 11:47:52 PM

cameroncrazy1984: MBK: GAT_00: He's got a point. Why do we say the military deserves special recognition yet teachers don't?

Because teachers don't have to travel thousands of miles from home, leaving friends and family behind, to fight in warzones and risking their lives because some old rich guys wanted to go to war.

So? They knew what they were getting into. They chose it. It's not like they were forced into the Army.


I guess boarding the plane first is one of their few perks.

It's not like teachers were forced in front of a chalk board.
 
2012-04-04 11:50:23 PM
It's called respect.

This is one little perk we can do for them that kinda says, "thanks for all that you do". For most troops, 90% of their tour of duty they will be in pretty shiaty conditions, the airport is the one place where maybe we can make them feel a little special...because they are.

It doesn't really cause anyone any inconvenience.

/Old Soldier
 
2012-04-04 11:53:23 PM
What a C*NT
 
MBK [TotalFark]
2012-04-04 11:54:29 PM

cameroncrazy1984: So? They knew what they were getting into. They chose it. It's not like they were forced into the Army.


So are teachers. Listen, teaching is a great profession. I have many friends who are teachers. I work in a school. I know teachers.

But...this whole idea that they are amazing individuals who teach every kid to read and write is bullshiat. Think back to your youth. Was every one of your teachers a "hero"? Was everyone of them burning the midnight oil to grade your papers or make a lesson plan? No, you had your fair share of shiatty teachers.

And no one forced them into teaching. They picked that major in college. They decided to stick with it. And then they decided to get a job teaching. This isn't The Giver, you aren't assigned jobs once you reach a certain age.

The perks of the military person gets does NOT outweigh the risks they take. We are seeing it every day with PTST and other issues like that. WE aren't giving them the healthcare they deserve or should get. We shouldn't worship them, but then again, we shouldn't give them the cold shoulder. SO they get first boarding priorities. And they get free meals on certain days of the year. Is that really a bad thing?

I really don't give a rat's ass about the special treatment they get from airports or restaurants. I care more about the treatment they get from the government. Or rather, the lack of care.
 
2012-04-05 12:01:32 AM
For Christ's sake, we live in a world of instant gratification where we haven't been asked to sacrifice a SINGLE F*CKING ounce of our precious time or money to fight multiple wars in hellholes on the other side of the planet, and now we have people biatching and pissing and moaning because of one of the few, TINY-ass perks offered to people serving their country, and fighting the wars that we, as a society, asked them to fight.

Is this really the kind of thing that keeps you awake at night?

/turboliberal.
//opposed both wars.
 
2012-04-05 12:04:01 AM

Beerguy: It's called respect.... we can make them feel a little special...because they are.


I can't decide on:

1) I think most people know why they go on first, they're more questioning why they are special at all. There is nothing particularly honourable about military service in this day and age, no more than any other uniformed work anyways.

or,

2) *yawn*

I think for brevity's sake i'll just go with option 2.
 
2012-04-05 12:20:19 AM
i.imgur.com

What the fark is this ad on the sidebar about?
 
2012-04-05 12:25:44 AM

kronicfeld: Lack of RTFA is strong in this thread.


THIS

That said, I'm no fan of Ayers or Dohrn
 
2012-04-05 12:27:08 AM
I didn't sit things out, I actually served after high school.

After withstanding the grueling hours, the longing for home, the longing for friends and family. The long nights at sea on a flight deck with goggles that made it hard to see and a cranial that made it hard to hear and have situational awareness, this while aircraft turned and threatened to suck me into the intakes or spit me off the ship in their exhaust. After six month deployments where I had constant 12 hour shifts with no days off and very few days of liberty in port. After meeting people that would bend over backwards to help me out or run into a conflagration to pull me out. All of this knowing that death could be at every turn in quick order.

I will give uniformed military a chance to get on board a plane first.
 
2012-04-05 12:28:48 AM
You don't like it? Take it up with the airlines.

Also, I was around in the post-Vietnam 70's and the 1980's where Stripes was considered good press for the military. I'm okay with them being given some respect.
 
2012-04-05 12:51:42 AM
I flew home for Christmas. A uniformed soldier sat next to me at the gate. I shook his hand and thanked him for his service.

We got to talking.

Out of nowhere, a group of high school kids gave him a Christmas card. Then, reps from the airline upgraded him to first class.

He was flabbergasted! He didn't expect it. He just wanted to go home.

I'll never forget it ...
 
2012-04-05 12:53:45 AM
FTFA: "In a declining empire, which, you know, the United States is, lets agree, the United States is a declining economic and political power even while its a veralent and expanding military power, a very dangerous combination.

This is not a new observation. Neoliberal scholars and analysts (new window) have been arguing this for decades now. And I see that they are still trying to smear President Obama by association too. Jolly well good now.
 
2012-04-05 12:54:35 AM

cameroncrazy1984: MBK: GAT_00: He's got a point. Why do we say the military deserves special recognition yet teachers don't?

Because teachers don't have to travel thousands of miles from home, leaving friends and family behind, to fight in warzones and risking their lives because some old rich guys wanted to go to war.

So? They knew what they were getting into. They chose it. It's not like they were forced into the Army.


We get it. You're upset because people aren't spitting on them like they used to back in the day.

ps...for most of these guys, a teacher's salary would be a nice raise.
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2012-04-05 12:56:38 AM
Unless it's Southwest, why would you want to be among the first to board? So you can spend more time in a cramped seat with someone's yardmonster screaming in your ear? If you want to give someone special treatment, let them board last.
 
2012-04-05 01:02:52 AM

ThunderPelvis: For Christ's sake, we live in a world of instant gratification where we haven't been asked to sacrifice a SINGLE F*CKING ounce of our precious time or money to fight multiple wars in hellholes on the other side of the planet, and now we have people biatching and pissing and moaning because of one of the few, TINY-ass perks offered to people serving their country, and fighting the wars that we, as a society, asked them to fight.

Is this really the kind of thing that keeps you awake at night?

/turboliberal.
//opposed both wars.


Imma steal that. Turboliberal. Now it's in me dictionary.
But I think I shall give credit, because it will allow me to also say 'I got that from a Farker named Thunder Pelvis.'
Then, they'll think I've been watching some f-ed up partisan porn.
Also, this Turboliberal says this to this post by a Turboliberal.

/turboliberal
 
2012-04-05 01:04:07 AM

Beerguy: It's called respect.

This is one little perk we can do for them that kinda says, "thanks for all that you do". For most troops, 90% of their tour of duty they will be in pretty shiaty conditions, the airport is the one place where maybe we can make them feel a little special...because they are.

It doesn't really cause anyone any inconvenience.

/Old Soldier


The USO lounge could do with more booze and tits

/Old Squid
 
2012-04-05 01:06:23 AM

eyehate: I didn't sit things out, I actually served after high school.

After withstanding the grueling hours, the longing for home, the longing for friends and family. The long nights at sea on a flight deck with goggles that made it hard to see and a cranial that made it hard to hear and have situational awareness, this while aircraft turned and threatened to suck me into the intakes or spit me off the ship in their exhaust. After six month deployments where I had constant 12 hour shifts with no days off and very few days of liberty in port. After meeting people that would bend over backwards to help me out or run into a conflagration to pull me out. All of this knowing that death could be at every turn in quick order.

I will give uniformed military a chance to get on board a plane first.



You only pulled 12 hour shifts on the flight deck? What a puss

\\\\ Former V2 green shirt
 
2012-04-05 01:08:30 AM
The "Ryan Budget" would cut billions from spending on veterans (gotta fund those tax cuts for millionaires!), but let's focus on some fringe extremists' ideas on who should board airplanes when.

They are right about one thing: America is on the decline.
 
2012-04-05 01:43:39 AM

El_Frijole_Blanco: You only pulled 12 hour shifts on the flight deck? What a puss

\\\\ Former V2 green shirt


As rule. But if GQ was called away, that could bump up to a fourteen or fifteen hour day.

Former V3 blue shirt. I was TAD to V1 for a WestPac, my chief forgot he sent me, and then damage control in my home division for the remainder of my service.

Just glad I wasn't a grape.
 
2012-04-05 01:47:34 AM
I think they should be allowed to board first. In fact, I think they should also be allowed to stay in our homes in peacetime and we should have to feed them.
 
2012-04-05 01:48:45 AM
Complaining about letting soldiers board first is idiotic but not as much as claiming to support them while putting them in harm's way for unjust purposes, paying them crap and cutting benefits every chance you get.
 
2012-04-05 01:53:37 AM

eyehate: As rule. But if GQ was called away, that could bump up to a fourteen or fifteen hour day.

Former V3 blue shirt. I was TAD to V1 for a WestPac, my chief forgot he sent me, and then damage control in my home division for the remainder of my service.

Just glad I wasn't a grape.


V2 didn't have shifts if birds are in the air V2 is working and then maintenance after recovery
 
2012-04-05 01:58:01 AM
Seriously?

For most enlisted yes
 
2012-04-05 02:58:56 AM
Yeah, I never got preferred boarding when I flew in uniform. Fark 'em. Probably some yeoman flying back to Mississippi for their family reunion/dating ritual.
 
2012-04-05 03:08:27 AM

kronicfeld: Lack of RTFA is strong in this thread.


I HATE BUSH.
I HATE the stupid wars we have fought.
I HATE the GOP and the jingoistic fascists that they have become.

BUT I totally have no problem with military boarding first. FFS.
Some of them will die for MY country.
I have infinite respect for that.
Some of my best friends, a recent ex-gf, all serve in one branch or another.
These are the best. (and yes, some military are the worst of the worst, but we are not talking about them)

The people on the far left are just as farking stupid as the people on the far right.
sigh
 
2012-04-05 03:11:08 AM

CommieTaoist: Complaining about letting soldiers board first is idiotic but not as much as claiming to support them while putting them in harm's way for unjust purposes, paying them crap and cutting benefits every chance you get.


this this and this

why are we fighting wars half-assed?
why are we not drafting?
why dont our wars have clear objectives and goals before we start shooting?

we should draft and have no deferments.
none at all
you dont want to use a gun? no problem, kitchen duty.
you have religious problems with war? no problem. chapel duty.
we need grunts to clean as much as shoot.

/sigh
 
2012-04-05 03:35:53 AM
I know that I like spending as much time as possible in the cabin of an airplane. It's why I impersonate a Captain in the Salvation Army.
 
2012-04-05 03:36:36 AM
Those in first and business class as well as small children and parents of those small children should be boarding first.

The plane is taking off when everyone's aboard. You're not getting home faster because you boarded first.

Sit back and wait until your row is called.
 
2012-04-05 03:36:50 AM
Because someday China will get all hot and bothered over something, or North Korea will finally lose the last shred of sanity, or Russia will finally get tired of being "the country that used to be strong," or someone completely off the radar right now will attack the United States, and that guy in that uniform is the guy who will put himself in between you and the people that want to hurt you, even while you're asking stupid questions like that.

That's why
 
2012-04-05 03:40:20 AM

MBK: So are teachers. Listen, teaching is a great profession. I have many friends who are teachers. I work in a school. I know teachers.

But...this whole idea that they are amazing individuals who teach every kid to read and write is bullshiat. Think back to your youth. Was every one of your teachers a "hero"? Was everyone of them burning the midnight oil to grade your papers or make a lesson plan? No, you had your fair share of shiatty teachers.

And no one forced them into teaching. They picked that major in college. They decided to stick with it. And then they decided to get a job teaching. This isn't The Giver, you aren't assigned jobs once you reach a certain age.


I have a lot of respect for teachers (the ones who actually care about the profession, anyway), but if someone told me that I could either go to war or teach a class of kindergarteners, I'd politely ask them to pass me my Kevlar and some ammo. :)

/I love the smell of cordite in the morning
//no, really, I do
///that and the smell of CLP make me feel warm and fuzzy
 
2012-04-05 03:42:17 AM

pickle65: Because someday China will get all hot and bothered over something, or North Korea will finally lose the last shred of sanity, or Russia will finally get tired of being "the country that used to be strong," or someone completely off the radar right now will attack the United States, and that guy in that uniform is the guy who will put himself in between you and the people that want to hurt you, even while you're asking stupid questions like that.

That's why


Cus only people in uniform can be heroic.
 
2012-04-05 03:43:18 AM
"In a declining empire, which, you know, the United States is, lets agree, the United States is a declining economic and political power even while its a veralent and expanding military power, a very dangerous combination. But in that, I just want to suggest that I think that what looks very strong is often very weak. It is very weak. Even though, this military force, the United States is Sparta. Yes, in many ways, national security ... its all The United States seems to have to offer. It isn't jobs or healthcare or public education or public parks or public libraries, it's security, security, security. We don't want that kind of a future, Occupy doesn't want that kind of a future."

You know how they encourage you to "don't edit yourself"?
In your case, I disagree. Edit. Your sentences are ablated by their own chaff.

"you know" is a low-class discourse marker. It's asserting others must believe this because it's reasonable, and you know, you're reasonable, so surely we're seeing the same thing. It's pointless. How others view your statement will not improve with such an insistence.

Also, I refute your assessment that the United States is "veralent". That's... not even a real word, BTW.
 
2012-04-05 03:44:26 AM
My daughter is in the US Air Force and she told me they cannot fly in uniform unless it is under official orders. Even then, if they are offered a free upgrade to first class or even an extra bag of pretzels they have to turn it down. The AF doesn't want people complaining that the government is paying for first class.

/even if they announce on the intercom that it is a free upgrade, they have to turn it down
 
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