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(The New York Times)   Middle-class writer lives like a billionaire for a day, but says: I'll go back to my normal life. TYVM   (dealbook.nytimes.com) divider line 41
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2012-04-05 03:42:42 AM
4 votes:
"Somebody's got to live this life," he says, gesturing to the pristine view from his penthouse villa. "God decided it should be me."

you arrogant f*ck.
2012-04-05 02:25:31 AM
4 votes:
Middle-class writer lives likebecomes a billionaire's "poor friend" for a day, but says: I'll go back to my normal life. TYVM then writes about how rich people have it hard too because he wants a paycheck.

FTFY.

Let me put it this way, right now I have 5 (minor) chronic health issues that I can define/know about and have yet to see a doctor about any of them. This is because I cannot afford (in time or money) to go get these things looked at. There's a (very slim) chance one of them in cancer, but I can't afford to check and if it is I'm dead whether I know it's coming or not. I haven't been on a date in a year because dating is expensive. I will be in more pain and live less time on this earth because I am not rich. My diet is poorer specifically because cheaper food is less healthy. I have never driven a car younger than a decade old, and if I lose my job tomorrow? I am out on the street along with the unemployed people I am supporting.

And I am, as far as I can tell with the poorly-defined and vague metrics that are used, middle class.

Yeah, it's true. Rich people can be miserable just like poor people. But while a rich person can go to therapy and anti-depressants and learn to find joy in life a poor person with the exact same problem can't afford the therapy or the drugs. Of course they can probably afford METH, which has a similar effect (except for the whole, "rotting your body and having no chance of getting you off the drugs later") so I guess we are all the same. Kumbaya, let me share, oh wait you don't share your caviar. Nevermind sir.
2012-04-05 01:42:17 AM
4 votes:
www.gatveder.hu
2012-04-05 01:04:48 AM
4 votes:
FTA: "In the era of the Occupy Wall Street movement, when the global financial elite has been accused of immoral and injurious conduct, we are still obsessed with the lives of the ultrarich. We watch them on television shows, follow their exploits in magazines and parse their books and public addresses for advice. "

No. We don't.

They are splattered all over the media not because we want to know about them. They are there because you continue to shove them down our throats and perpetuate the LIE that the more money, you have, the more worthy of Life that you are.

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Sorry, but see the likes of Lee Raymond and Lloyd Blankfein and I see no reason to admire or want to emulate such horrid creatures, despite all the billions that they flaunt around.

In fact, we would really appreciate it very much if you jackoffs in the media would stop deifiying these sleazebags and stop tormenting us about how they live much better, far more undeserved lives than the rest of us.
2012-04-05 12:44:08 AM
3 votes:
I love the way Subby suggests that maybe the guy had a choice in the matter.
2012-04-05 10:12:19 AM
2 votes:

generallyso: FTA: "Somebody's got to live this life," he says, gesturing to the pristine view from his penthouse villa. "God decided it should be me."

The Divine Right of Kings coming from a Wall Street asshole. I wish I could say I was surprised.


I guess they know sh*t about history. Look how many kings, rulers, emperors, dictators, and despots have ended with violent death at the hands of the ordinary people.

F*ck. That.
2012-04-05 10:07:37 AM
2 votes:
FTA: "Somebody's got to live this life," he says, gesturing to the pristine view from his penthouse villa. "God decided it should be me."

The Divine Right of Kings coming from a Wall Street asshole. I wish I could say I was surprised.
2012-04-05 09:30:04 AM
2 votes:
Twice in my life, I've traveled on business and the people at the hotel got the mistaken impression (I suspect I was being pranked) that I was some kind of VIP. Not billionaire-class VIP by any means. But enough to follow me around like puppies, constantly kissing my ass. It taught me that I hate it when people try to kiss my ass.

I would love to be financially secure and not have to "work" any more, so that I could devote myself to avocations instead of playing the corporate propaganda game. But I have no desire at all to be a billionaire.
2012-04-05 08:51:37 AM
2 votes:
"Somebody's got to live this life," he says, gesturing to the pristine view from his penthouse villa. "God decided it should be me."

Aaaaaaaaand.... this is where you'll be first upon the wall, my good Sir Republican one percenter.
2012-04-05 07:59:08 AM
2 votes:
If I were given a million dollars tomorrow -- I'd quit my job, spend more time with my wife and kids, and create things with my mind and hands. I'd also sign up for a bunch of college classes for no other reason than I like learning. This is why I'll never be rich. I have no desire to make cut-throat decisions where someone has to lose in order for me to win. I have no desire to work until I drop. I have no desire to treat money like a scoreboard.

To me, it's not money that's important -- it's the lack of money that's important.
2012-04-05 04:30:48 AM
2 votes:
A raft of studies, including one in 2010 by Princeton researchers Daniel Kahneman and Angus Deaton, has underscored the fact that the rich are no happier than the merely comfortable, and are often burdened by the same problems: health and work issues, family concerns and worries about making ends meet.

Sorry, but maybe the guy in the better neighborhood with a $500,000 house and $600,000 in debt that we may call 'rich' worries about ends meeting, but a farking BILLIONAIRE does not worry about this. Proof of that can be seen with 3rd generation trust fund kids that squander company fortunes over a series of years.

There's a good TED talk where the speaker has done this over the course of months. Trying out all the high-end shiat. Bughatti = worth it. The rest, meh.

Also on the $50,000 breakfast club, there is so much money to be made if you can find a business that caters to the rich. Simply making something more expensive can make it appear better to anyone.
2012-04-05 02:49:14 AM
2 votes:

rynthetyn: Greymalkin: I could very comfortably retire today on 5 mil and even my fantasy list of stuff I would like to own and do with money as no object barely scratches the 100 mil mark. Which means if somehow a billion dollars legally landed in my bank account 900 mil of it would be wasted on me.

I think that once you have that much money, you start finding ways to spend it, and then everything becomes more expensive.

Though, on the other hand, I don't know how much I'd really end up spending because other than cars, my biggest ticket if money was no object would be travel, but other than flying first class or private plane and spending more on shopping I don't know if I'd change my travel methods that much. I wouldn't want to stay in luxury hotels because they're all basically the same everywhere in the world. Plus, most of the experiences that you pay megabucks for as part of luxury travel packages can also be done for dirt cheap with more actual experience. And, if I'm paying for drivers and cars to ferry me around, how am I ever going to achieve my goal of getting lost in all of the world's major cities?


If i was a billionaire I would build things. There would be hospitals, schools, and libraries named after me all over town. Great for the ego and great for the community! Make yourself immortal! I guess that's what Hearst did. Seems like every in Berkeley has his name on it.
2012-04-05 02:24:58 AM
2 votes:
FTFA:
"The experiment illuminates a paradox. In the era of the Occupy Wall Street movement, when the global financial elite has been accused of immoral and injurious conduct, we are still obsessed with the lives of the ultrarich. We watch them on television shows, follow their exploits in magazines and parse their books and public addresses for advice. In addition to the long-running list by Forbes, Bloomberg now maintains a list of billionaires with rankings that update every day."

NO
No,
I do not watch them on TV.
No, I do not read about them in magazines or books.
No, I do not read rich lists.
Perhaps by osmosis some of these things reach me but I do not seek it out.
The ultra rich, great for them. Wish I had the dollars they did. But I am not even remotely interested in them. Not in the slightest. And I am tired of the media thinking that I am.
STOP IT NOW.
2012-04-05 01:55:17 AM
2 votes:
Writer - I did it for part of day and was stressed. Thrown into unfamiliar environs I felt uneasy. CONCLUSION: Feel sorry for billionaires. F-U.
2012-04-05 01:40:17 AM
2 votes:
If I had a billion dollars, I'd probably live much the same way I do now, just with a nicer couch. And more porn.
2012-04-05 01:33:59 AM
2 votes:
50,000 initiation fee? 15K per year membership? for a farking breakfast club?

Those people don't give a crap about breakfast, they just want to be seen by other rich people.

I don't give a crap about being seen, being popular, being known, or even cared about or appreciated. I'm happy doing my own thing in obscurity. I'd rather be the man behind the curtain pulling the strings than some center stage rich jack off.
2012-04-05 01:28:56 AM
2 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: This article either leaves out that billionaires are responsible for making decisions that impact the lives of thousands, or it underscores that billionaires live a luxurious life without making any important decisions besides whether to order the spinach omelette or the cobb salad.

Some are born into the billionaire world, but many work their way into it. Those that worked their way up would scoff at this guy's day because not once did he do anything important and impactful.


I think some people are driven workaholics who aren't satisfied unless they are continually increasing their position in life and their net worth. Others are happy to have enough to sustain whatever lifetsyle they consider sufficient. I'm guessing (as I've never been in the first group) that both long a little for what the other has: The extremely wealthy wish for a little more spare time, the 'work to live not live to work' crowd wishes for some extra cash in the bank.

Personally, I have no desire to be high profile enough to ever require a bodyguard. I'd love to have enough money that I could just leave it in investments and live extravagantly off of the interest though. I do get a little bit stir crazy towards the end of a week of vacation time, but part of that is because I don't want to spend so much while on vacation that I burn up all of my vacation pay.

If I had enough money that I make more per hour in interest than I generally spend, I'd like to think I could let that go and just live jet-setting from place to place soaking the experience of life in without a care in the world.
2012-04-05 12:50:24 AM
2 votes:
This article either leaves out that billionaires are responsible for making decisions that impact the lives of thousands, or it underscores that billionaires live a luxurious life without making any important decisions besides whether to order the spinach omelette or the cobb salad.

Some are born into the billionaire world, but many work their way into it. Those that worked their way up would scoff at this guy's day because not once did he do anything important and impactful.
2012-04-05 12:44:47 AM
2 votes:
Actually, I'm not sure I'd be really happy if I had to live that kind of highly structured, carefully monitored life. If I've got so much money and influence that I have to have a bodyguard and a personal assistant with me 24/7 and can't just be by myself...hell, I don't like being with people I LIKE half the time--I couldn't live with someone I didn't really want to be there.

Of course, because of that, I'll never have that kind of money, so I guess it all works out.
2012-04-05 09:05:54 PM
1 votes:
from TFA:

A raft of studies, including one in 2010 by Princeton researchers Daniel Kahneman and Angus Deaton, has underscored the fact that the rich are no happier than the merely comfortable, and are often burdened by the same problems: health and work issues, family concerns and worries about making ends meet.

And that's where I stopped reading.

BULL
FARKING
SHIAT

The only ends they need to worry about meeting are their head end meeting their ass end when I have to fold them in half and run them through a wood chipper in order to make ground meat for food.
2012-04-05 01:05:59 PM
1 votes:
Reading some of these comments I don't think people understand how much a billion dollars is.

If you make a 100,00 dollars a day it would take you 27.4 years to make a billion dollars.

If you make 500,000 a year it would take you 2000 years to make a billion dollars.

A billionaire doesn't have to work unless they want to. About 30% of billionaires inherited their money and the vast majority of "Self made" ones came from families with a net worth of over 100 million.
2012-04-05 09:26:54 AM
1 votes:

sharkbeagle: If you ever claim to have met a poor Marxist, you're lying


If you ever insinuate that Marxism appeals entirely to the middle class and higher, you're a parochial ignoramus with no knowledge of history.
2012-04-05 09:00:09 AM
1 votes:
If you're a billionaire, no one forces you to own a Rolls Royce and a private jet and live a hectic lifestyle. That's the point: Money buys options. If you want to buy a simple house, and then hang out and do nothing in it for the rest of your life, then you can do that just as easily.
2012-04-05 07:52:20 AM
1 votes:
If I had a billion dollars I would try to rid the world of at least one disease.
2012-04-05 07:39:25 AM
1 votes:
FTFA: """Somebody's got to live this life," he says, gesturing to the pristine view from his penthouse villa. "God decided it should be me.""

I'm pretty sure if all billionaires gave up 90% of their money, so they *only* had 100 million, god would be ok with it.
2012-04-05 06:50:56 AM
1 votes:
What an incredibly boring and uninsightful article.
2012-04-05 06:39:05 AM
1 votes:
Lots of billionaires don't really bother with body guards most of the time. Its pretty common to just walk down the street alone.

But sometimes you do see the armored limos and dudes with machine guns. But its pretty rare.


I second Branson's life as the model I would like to use should I ever get that rich (which is impossible)
2012-04-05 04:40:14 AM
1 votes:
I think of billions of dollars as "fark you" money, not "everybody look how rich I am" money. The latter seems like a much more stressful and less enjoyable life.
2012-04-05 03:35:01 AM
1 votes:
I don't know why, but if I were a billionaire, I'd build a pyramid out of stone that was twice the size of the ones in Egypt.



/I bet a shrink would have a field day with that one.
2012-04-05 03:08:09 AM
1 votes:

Scopa: rynthetyn: Greymalkin: I could very comfortably retire today on 5 mil and even my fantasy list of stuff I would like to own and do with money as no object barely scratches the 100 mil mark. Which means if somehow a billion dollars legally landed in my bank account 900 mil of it would be wasted on me.

I think that once you have that much money, you start finding ways to spend it, and then everything becomes more expensive.

Though, on the other hand, I don't know how much I'd really end up spending because other than cars, my biggest ticket if money was no object would be travel, but other than flying first class or private plane and spending more on shopping I don't know if I'd change my travel methods that much. I wouldn't want to stay in luxury hotels because they're all basically the same everywhere in the world. Plus, most of the experiences that you pay megabucks for as part of luxury travel packages can also be done for dirt cheap with more actual experience. And, if I'm paying for drivers and cars to ferry me around, how am I ever going to achieve my goal of getting lost in all of the world's major cities?

If i was a billionaire I would build things. There would be hospitals, schools, and libraries named after me all over town. Great for the ego and great for the community! Make yourself immortal! I guess that's what Hearst did. Seems like every in Berkeley has his name on it.


He also kinda threw gas on the fires of marijuana prohibition, which usually farks over poor people and minorities. Fark WRH. He was an asshole.

/hopes him and Anslinger are being waterboarded with six month-old bongwater in hell
2012-04-05 02:56:15 AM
1 votes:
That article didn't capture the seething hatred behind the eyes of people sucking the teat of popular culture.

"Oh, you have money? You must be a scum sucking asshole who would sell his own mother for a dime."
2012-04-05 02:37:54 AM
1 votes:
How very pedestrian of a billionaire day.

Give me a Sir Richard Branson billionaire sort of day:
Start off the morning Jet skiing in the fountain of the Bellagio (new window)
www.vegasnews.com

Then fly in my spaceship (new window) to the edge of the atmosphere. Maybe set a few world records for something daring, like flying around the world, or taking the fastest boat across the ocean.

Then finish off the day parasailing with nude supermodels (new window, semi-nsfw) at my private island. Then while nude myself, save a hollywood starlet from a fire. (new window)

That's how I would roll as a billionaire.
2012-04-05 02:34:24 AM
1 votes:
I didn't finish the article...Apparently I care about these people even less than I thought.

Even the spinach omlette sounded boring. Add some feta and sun dried tomatos and we can talk.
2012-04-05 02:21:08 AM
1 votes:

Scopa: accelerus: 50,000 initiation fee? 15K per year membership? for a farking breakfast club?

Those people don't give a crap about breakfast, they just want to be seen by other rich people.

I don't give a crap about being seen, being popular, being known, or even cared about or appreciated. I'm happy doing my own thing in obscurity. I'd rather be the man behind the curtain pulling the strings than some center stage rich jack off.

Just a little perspective. $50,000 to a billionaire is the equivalent of $0.50 to someone with $100,000 in the bank.


You probably need to put that into a bit more perspective for him.

It's like $0.00005 to someone with $10 in the bank.
2012-04-05 01:50:58 AM
1 votes:

Omahawg: a middle-class writer isn't a real writer. a real writer freaks out waiting for the postman every day in hopes that there will be a fat check instead of more disconnect notices.


In the immortal words of Bill Clinton, I feel your pain ; )
2012-04-05 01:43:45 AM
1 votes:

accelerus: 50,000 initiation fee? 15K per year membership? for a farking breakfast club?

Those people don't give a crap about breakfast, they just want to be seen by other rich people.

I don't give a crap about being seen, being popular, being known, or even cared about or appreciated. I'm happy doing my own thing in obscurity. I'd rather be the man behind the curtain pulling the strings than some center stage rich jack off.


Actually a large part of that is specifically for the privilege of shmoozing with decision makers at other companies. The emotional aspect of business is buoyed by these exclusive clubs, and many major decisions are made over racquetball games in these clubs instead of in the board room.

How an executive behaves reflects on the company and the decision whether Company A will do business with Company B is determined based on whether the executives of each company like and respect each other. Being rich is like being in a clique, and in the end, whether you're in or you're out will determine how much business you will eventually do.
2012-04-05 01:26:42 AM
1 votes:
a middle-class writer isn't a real writer. a real writer freaks out waiting for the postman every day in hopes that there will be a fat check instead of more disconnect notices.
2012-04-05 01:10:45 AM
1 votes:
Feh . . . I spend four months a year living like a billionaire.

/ asleep
2012-04-05 01:05:17 AM
1 votes:
From the Article:

Still, two hours later, when the billionaire and I touch down in Sea Island, Ga., it's hard to see the similarities. As we deplane, a classic Mercedes convertible is waiting. We jump in, and he ferries me around the resort, with its multimillion-dollar villas and perfectly manicured golf courses.

Everywhere he goes, he gets four-star service. Doors are opened, luggage is carried away wordlessly, and at one point, warm chocolate chip cookies magically appear. When his brakes sputter and his convertible starts spewing smoke, he picks up another Mercedes.

"Somebody's got to live this life," he says, gesturing to the pristine view from his penthouse villa. "God decided it should be me."



My Head Asplode
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2012-04-05 12:44:19 AM
1 votes:
I get nervous when going out for fast food and a worker clears my table. I could never handle being a billionaire.
2012-04-04 11:57:23 PM
1 votes:
And he didn't even have one person killed.
 
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