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(Talking Points Memo)   Rep. Steve King wants to bring back "Don't Ask, Don't Tell". For private employers   (tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 240
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2012-04-04 05:45:09 PM
"If you don't know anybody's sexuality you can't discriminate against them," King said in a discussion about sexual orientation in the workplace. Private businesses need the freedom to operate, King said. "I would think that, unless somebody makes their sexuality public it's nobody's business. Neither is it our business to tell an employer who to hire," he added.

I hear this place is restricted, Wang, so don't tell 'em you're Jewish, okay?
 
2012-04-04 05:48:44 PM
So heterosexual people should be allowed to flaunt their sexuality by having photos of their SOs on their desks while gay people should be fired if they do the same?
 
2012-04-04 05:50:19 PM
"I would think that, unless somebody makes their sexuality public it's nobody's business. Neither is it our business to tell an employer who to hire," he added.

I hear this guy is kind of racist, so try not to look black.
 
2012-04-04 05:54:28 PM
Just what kind of a clown is Steve King?
blog.timesunion.com
 
2012-04-04 05:54:29 PM

themindiswatching: So heterosexual people should be allowed to flaunt their sexuality by having photos of their SOs on their desks while gay people should be fired if they do the same?


Nonsense. Gay people are free to put up photos of the opposite sex.
 
2012-04-04 05:55:20 PM
First republican to understand "equal protection" gets a cookie.
 
2012-04-04 06:00:27 PM

themindiswatching: So heterosexual people should be allowed to flaunt their sexuality by having photos of their SOs on their desks while gay people should be fired if they do the same?


Hilariously, that is exactly what some people believe. I had an argument with a Marine regarding DADT. He was arguing how gays shouldn't be flaunting their sexual orientation.

Marine: Gay people don't need to flaunt their sexual orientation and throw it in everyone's face.

Me: Flaunting? Okay, so let me present this situation: in the army let's say we have soldier A and soldier B. Soldier A says "I can't wait to get back and see my girlfriend Terri." Soldier B says "I can't wait to get back and see my boyfriend Terry." Soldier A is fine, but Soldier B is throwing it in everyone's face?

Marine: Yes.

He was serious.
 
2012-04-04 06:03:14 PM
Republicans: proudly leading the race to the bottom.
 
2012-04-04 06:03:31 PM
Oh wait, scratch that. I found the email chain.

Marine
Let me ask you this. why do homosexuals feel the need to broadcast their sexual preference for all to know? Gays have been serving in the military for sometime under Clinton's don't ask, don't tell and from the beginning of our country most likely. Most of the issues that have arisen from a point of discrimination has come from individuals seeking to use their homosexuality as leverage against their command for various reasons when no one had even an inkling of their true orientation.

Me
Here's a hypothetical example and you will need to tell me the result:
Soldier 1: Man my girlfriend is almost due and demands we get married as soon as my deployment is over.
Soldier 2: Yeah, my boyfriend worries a lot about that kind of thing too.

Sounds like both of them are "broadcasting."

Marine
The difference is Soldier 1 may feel discomfort in this situation you posit. You have just introduced another dynamic with unforseen consequences into a combat environment. I'm glad people feel comfortable being armchair quarterbacks for people in foxholes.
 
2012-04-04 06:04:35 PM
Private businesses need the freedom to operate

Yes, and that has FARK ALL to do with any employee's sexuality.
 
2012-04-04 06:07:58 PM

Quasar: Marine: Gay people don't need to flaunt their sexual orientation and throw it in everyone's face.


Someone sounds jealous of all the fabulousness.
 
2012-04-04 06:13:06 PM
Since he's Republican I think we can assume that this is only regarding Escort services.

He doesn't want any of his gay escorts to be self acknowledging.

t4toby.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-04-04 06:14:07 PM

themindiswatching: Quasar: Marine: Gay people don't need to flaunt their sexual orientation and throw it in everyone's face.

Someone sounds jealous of all the fabulousness.


I had a lot of political arguments with him (before he got pissy, called me names, and removed me from the email chains he'd send out to our mutual friends thank god). I really enjoyed proving his assertions wrong using the very sources he was citing (when he cited anything at all - he was fond of the "obama hasn't done it yet but you know he wants to" style of argument).
 
2012-04-04 06:16:28 PM
Fine. I didn't ask how farking stupid you are, so don't goddam tell me, asshole.
 
2012-04-04 06:22:40 PM

themindiswatching: So heterosexual people should be allowed to flaunt their sexuality by having photos of their SOs on their desks while gay people should be fired if they do the same?


I think people like King think only them queers have sexual orientations.

I'm not sure what the rest of us have. Normalcy, I guess. Who knows.
 
2012-04-04 06:23:50 PM

Quasar: themindiswatching: So heterosexual people should be allowed to flaunt their sexuality by having photos of their SOs on their desks while gay people should be fired if they do the same?

Hilariously, that is exactly what some people believe. I had an argument with a Marine regarding DADT. He was arguing how gays shouldn't be flaunting their sexual orientation.

Marine: Gay people don't need to flaunt their sexual orientation and throw it in everyone's face.

Me: Flaunting? Okay, so let me present this situation: in the army let's say we have soldier A and soldier B. Soldier A says "I can't wait to get back and see my girlfriend Terri." Soldier B says "I can't wait to get back and see my boyfriend Terry." Soldier A is fine, but Soldier B is throwing it in everyone's face?

Marine: Yes.

He was serious.


I had almost the exactly same conversation with a class mate two weeks ago. Only we're both MSW students who have had diversity shoved up our noses for the past year. Oh and he's African-American with a gay sister. I don't get some people.
 
2012-04-04 06:37:41 PM

Quasar: The difference is Soldier 1 may feel discomfort in this situation you posit. You have just introduced another dynamic with unforseen consequences into a combat environment. I'm glad people feel comfortable being armchair quarterbacks for people in foxholes.


My favorite part is how I am now imaging Blackadder in a WWI trench, sitting at his desk, with a picture of some unnamed man sitting on it, while tiresomely lecturing Baldrick, who, for his part, is totally ignoring what Blackadder has to say and, instead, is staring quizzically at the picture.
 
2012-04-04 06:41:06 PM
Steve King gay sex 'scandal' in 5...4...
 
2012-04-04 06:43:23 PM
"How do you know somebody's sexual orientation?"

Well let's see, a lot of heterosexual employees have pictures of their spouse and families on their desk. That would seem to indicate their sexuality.

That is the most back door display of homophobia I have ever read.
 
2012-04-04 06:45:41 PM

GAT_00: Republicans: proudly leading the race to the bottom.


I know, they are just all over the map women, the middle class, gays. Good grief it's like they are just begging to dig their own political grave
 
2012-04-04 06:45:55 PM

smeegle: That is the most back door display of homophobia I have ever read.


Heh.
 
2012-04-04 06:49:43 PM
Imagine that you're at work. Some loudmouthed guy starts going on about how he "completely destroyed some chick over the weekend, tearing her in half like a phone book as he ravaged her whore body for everything it was worth, haha sluts". He says this right in front of a group of women at the water cooler. One of them goes and complains to the boss about it becoming a hostile work environment in which they feel uncomfortable. The correct course of action is to punish the guy, right?

Why should it be any different if he's homosexual? Keep your sex life out of the office. No one wants to hear that shiat.

That being said, you shouldn't have to hide that you're gay. I think hiding your significant other's picture or refusing to bring them along to a company picnic is an affront to what it means to be American. You shouldn't be discriminated against because you are gay.
 
2012-04-04 06:50:15 PM

Quasar: Oh wait, scratch that. I found the email chain.

Marine
Let me ask you this. why do homosexuals feel the need to broadcast their sexual preference for all to know? Gays have been serving in the military for sometime under Clinton's don't ask, don't tell and from the beginning of our country most likely. Most of the issues that have arisen from a point of discrimination has come from individuals seeking to use their homosexuality as leverage against their command for various reasons when no one had even an inkling of their true orientation.

Me
Here's a hypothetical example and you will need to tell me the result:
Soldier 1: Man my girlfriend is almost due and demands we get married as soon as my deployment is over.
Soldier 2: Yeah, my boyfriend worries a lot about that kind of thing too.

Sounds like both of them are "broadcasting."

Marine
The difference is Soldier 1 may feel discomfort in this situation you posit. You have just introduced another dynamic with unforseen consequences into a combat environment. I'm glad people feel comfortable being armchair quarterbacks for people in foxholes.


But of course Soldier 2 wouldn't feel uncomfortable being in a conversation about relationships but unable to talk about his own, right? Or that discomfort and feeling of distance from one's comrades just doesn't matter, because he's gay?
 
2012-04-04 06:50:20 PM

smeegle: GAT_00: Republicans: proudly leading the race to the bottom.

I know, they are just all over the map women, the middle class, gays. Good grief it's like they are just begging to dig their own political grave


And yet there are millions of white men who will vote for them because they are afraid a middle class gay woman threatening their manhood and what they believe in.
 
2012-04-04 06:53:38 PM
here we go again, Dims making homosexuality an issue... why can't you guys just focus on the real issues!

but i digress... it's been scientifically proven that Libs are incapable of open mindedness.
 
2012-04-04 06:54:20 PM
 
2012-04-04 06:55:29 PM
If you've ever hired anybody you know asking them about their sexuality gets you a lawsuit.

Fire someone for being gay and you're lawsuited.

Sex has no place in the workplace unless it's between a male boss and his semi-consenting female secretary.

(Or you work at a brothel, strip club, porn shop, Vivid Video or are an altar boy.)
 
2012-04-04 06:55:43 PM
This is the joke of the religious... they want to have the ability to fire me because I'm gay, but in the business that I own, they claim religious protection so I can't fire them for being bigoted farks. Just like with marriage and everything else, religious people continually demand "special rights" for themselves.
 
2012-04-04 06:55:48 PM
This is why we need a limit to the number of laws we can have on the books and a the number of articles each law may have.

In America today, you have 1000s of legislators whose job is to make laws on top of what we have already. Laws on laws on laws.

If we instead put a cap on 'em and make it so if they want to put up a anti-homosexual law for debate, they have to take one off the books, too. That would kill all the stupid laws pretty quickly.
 
2012-04-04 06:56:44 PM

Cletus C.: If you've ever hired anybody you know asking them about their sexuality gets you a lawsuit.

Fire someone for being gay and you're lawsuited.

Sex has no place in the workplace unless it's between a male boss and his semi-consenting female secretary.

(Or you work at a brothel, strip club, porn shop, Vivid Video or are an altar boy.)


It depends on where you live. Many states still don't have discrimination protections for sexual orientation.
 
2012-04-04 06:56:55 PM
How about you not give a flying f*ck about someone else's personal life?
 
2012-04-04 06:57:00 PM

Shaggy_C: Why should it be any different if he's homosexual? Keep your sex life out of the office. No one wants to hear that shiat.


Wow, you're so right. "I have a boyfriend" is exactly the same thing as "I totally banged this hot chick ten different ways."

You say a lot of stupid things but this might be your masterpiece.
 
2012-04-04 06:57:01 PM

doglover: This is why we need a limit to the number of laws we can have on the books and a the number of articles each law may have.

In America today, you have 1000s of legislators whose job is to make laws on top of what we have already. Laws on laws on laws.

If we instead put a cap on 'em and make it so if they want to put up a anti-homosexual law for debate, they have to take one off the books, too. That would kill all the stupid laws pretty quickly.


I'm really looking forward to trading Social Security for DOMA 2. Look how stupid you are.
 
2012-04-04 06:57:14 PM
All this red meat they've been throwing their base seems to be filled with pink slime.
 
2012-04-04 06:57:58 PM
If, and ONLY if, every heterosexual employee is immediately fired whenever they give the least hint of their orientation, I'm good with this.

Flirting? That's a firin'.

Dating? That's a firin'.

Claiming a member of the opposite sex as a dependent spouse on insurance? O HELLS YEAH THAT'S A FIRIN'!!

f*ck king.
 
2012-04-04 06:58:20 PM

Rincewind53: Steve King flaunts his sexual orientation on his website
Steve King flaunts his sexual orientation while talking about Iraq
Steve King flaunts his sexual orientation while discussing the Health Care bill
Steve King flaunts his sexual orientation while discussing shooting a raccoon

/I could keep going....


Methinks he doth protest too much
 
2012-04-04 07:01:42 PM

Rincewind53: Steve King flaunts his sexual orientation on his website
Steve King flaunts his sexual orientation while talking about Iraq
Steve King flaunts his sexual orientation while discussing the Health Care bill
Steve King flaunts his sexual orientation while discussing shooting a raccoon

/I could keep going....


He flaunts it everywhere he goes, he even has special jewelry just to tell everyone else, at first glance, that he has found his opposite sex mate.
 
2012-04-04 07:02:33 PM

ImpendingCynic: Wow, you're so right. "I have a boyfriend" is exactly the same thing as "I totally banged this hot chick ten different ways."


I'm agreeing with him only on the point that sex has no place in the office. Aside from that, I think the notion of discriminating against someone for whom they choose to spend their free time with is absurd. It should absolutely be illegal for an employer to fire someone on the basis of sexual orientation.
 
2012-04-04 07:03:15 PM

Shaggy_C: Imagine that you're at work. Some loudmouthed guy starts going on about how he "completely destroyed some chick over the weekend, tearing her in half like a phone book as he ravaged her whore body for everything it was worth, haha sluts". He says this right in front of a group of women at the water cooler. One of them goes and complains to the boss about it becoming a hostile work environment in which they feel uncomfortable. The correct course of action is to punish the guy, right?

Why should it be any different if he's homosexual? Keep your sex life out of the office. No one wants to hear that shiat.

That being said, you shouldn't have to hide that you're gay. I think hiding your significant other's picture or refusing to bring them along to a company picnic is an affront to what it means to be American. You shouldn't be discriminated against because you are gay.


I'm not sure what your first two paragraphs have to do with the third, or the conversation at all.
 
2012-04-04 07:03:32 PM

Shaggy_C: Why should it be any different if he's homosexual? Keep your sex life out of the office. No one wants to hear that shiat.


It shouldn't be. That is just about civil behavior. Lot of gays in my office, myself included, we don't do that crap. We do however display pictures of our partners and feel comfortable enough to bring them to company events where they are warmly welcomed.

Ain't life grand:)
 
2012-04-04 07:03:41 PM

firefly212: Rincewind53: Steve King flaunts his sexual orientation on his website
Steve King flaunts his sexual orientation while talking about Iraq
Steve King flaunts his sexual orientation while discussing the Health Care bill
Steve King flaunts his sexual orientation while discussing shooting a raccoon

/I could keep going....

He flaunts it everywhere he goes, he even has special jewelry just to tell everyone else, at first glance, that he has found his opposite sex mate.


He's such a slore.
 
2012-04-04 07:04:03 PM

Cletus C.: If you've ever hired anybody you know asking them about their sexuality gets you a lawsuit.

Fire someone for being gay and you're lawsuited.

Sex has no place in the workplace unless it's between a male boss and his semi-consenting female secretary.

(Or you work at a brothel, strip club, porn shop, Vivid Video or are an altar boy.)


Or a male boss and several desperate, yet ambitious copy boys.
 
2012-04-04 07:04:18 PM
Thank you, 2010 census, for reapportionment no longer having this douchenozzle represent me
 
2012-04-04 07:04:27 PM

Isitoveryet: here we go again, Dims making homosexuality an issue... why can't you guys just focus on the real issues!

but i digress... it's been scientifically proven that Libs are incapable of open mindedness.


i303.photobucket.com
 
2012-04-04 07:04:49 PM

Isitoveryet: it's been scientifically proven that Libs are incapable of open mindedness.


sarcasm or stupidity?
 
2012-04-04 07:05:11 PM

Shaggy_C: ImpendingCynic: Wow, you're so right. "I have a boyfriend" is exactly the same thing as "I totally banged this hot chick ten different ways."

I'm agreeing with him only on the point that sex has no place in the office. Aside from that, I think the notion of discriminating against someone for whom they choose to spend their free time with is absurd. It should absolutely be illegal for an employer to fire someone on the basis of sexual orientation.


Your asinine comment underlies the fact that you appear to believe in the idea that being gay has anything to do with sex. Why else would you start by talking about how inappropriate it is to discuss sex in a rude way?

Being gay is not about sex. It's about love and attraction.
 
2012-04-04 07:07:11 PM
Should an employer (lets say a Christian bookstore owner) be forced to hire someone who is openly gay?
 
2012-04-04 07:07:55 PM
I just felt that there needed to be some Conservative representation here, even if it was faked.
 
2012-04-04 07:08:55 PM
Should an employer (lets say a Christian bookstore owner) be forced to hire someone who is brazenly wearing a mixed blend of wool and linen?
 
2012-04-04 07:09:08 PM

Burning_Monk: Should an employer (lets say a Christian bookstore owner) be forced to hire someone who is openly gay?


yes. for the lulz
 
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