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2012-04-04 05:58:56 PM
In today's episode of inane comparison in this irrelevant battle of the catastrophically stupid culture wars, i wholeheartedly endorse mad men over game of thrones. Because cigarettes.
 
2012-04-04 06:01:03 PM
Is this where I come in and sip a latte and talk about how I don't have a television, you sad little Philistine sheep, or is that down in the Ryan Seacrest thread?
 
2012-04-04 06:01:29 PM

NeoCortex42: Yeah, this seems to be a bit of an issue. I read the first book prior to watching the first season, and am finishing up reading the second book now. A lot of the season 2 premiere seemed like it would have been confusing for anyone not familiar with the book first.


I just lent my Season 1 BluRays to a coworker who hasn't read the books. He had the same problem with the start of Season 1. There's just a lot of characters and history to introduce, and not a lot of time to do it in. He's still digging the show, though.
 
2012-04-04 06:02:23 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Fish in a Barrel: Uh oh, now some pretentious twat is going to come in here and point out that "The Walking Dead" refers to the living, and imply that you're a drooling idiot without the mental capacity to understand the brilliance that was the first half of season 2.

It could still imply that Daryl and T-Dog are robbing the living of their lunch money.

I HAVE CONTINGENCY PLANS FOR MY CONTINGENCY PLANS!


Apos: Now that would be awesome.

With special guest stars like on The New Scooby-Doo Movies!

Imagine...

Daryl and T-Dog Vs. the Walking Dead

WITH SPECIAL GUEST STARS

The Harlem Globetrotters!



Heh...Stunt casting aside,it would be a damn sight better than the tedious incarnation we're stuck with.
 
2012-04-04 06:03:47 PM
If you don't have HBO and want to watch season 2 of Game of Thrones legally, only one year to go!

/Also, Breaking Bad FTW
 
2012-04-04 06:04:37 PM

Some 'Splainin' To Do: NeoCortex42: Yeah, this seems to be a bit of an issue. I read the first book prior to watching the first season, and am finishing up reading the second book now. A lot of the season 2 premiere seemed like it would have been confusing for anyone not familiar with the book first.

I'm sure it is. Unfortunately, it's all rather necessary. The book has a huge cast of characters and the show has already done everything it can to consolidate and eliminate redundant and unnecessary characters. In spite of that, there's more left to introduce. We haven't even met the Greyjoys yet.

I'm actually impressed by how well they were able to cover a whole lot of ground in the S2 opener. It wasn't perfect, but I think that it's about as good as you can expect given the scope of the material.


It's helpful that they get an entire hour rather than 44 minutes.

I've actually tried to read the first book 4 or 5 times, and I can't get past about page 4. From what I understand, that is not unusual.
 
2012-04-04 06:05:22 PM

Tatsuma: I couldn't stomach more than the first episode of Mad Men before being bored and moving on. I started Game of Thrones yesterday and I'm watching S01E08 right now.

Then again, I also saw the long extended teaser for Game of Thrones (first 25 minutes or so) and was bored and just decided not to watch it in the first place.

So I might give Mad Men another chance at some point.


Still, I doubt Mad Men features as many beheadings.


Know how I know you're a TV snob? ;)
 
2012-04-04 06:08:11 PM

Son of Thunder: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Son of Thunder: Given the amount that HBO has cut or skimmed over, I'd say no. They need less filler and more character development. "Hi. I'm an old guy and I don't like the red priestess and I'm dead now."

Any story line would have to include the little girl and the fool. You would really introduce three characters just to give a little back story to him?!

That would have been better. Especially since Little Miss Greyscale and her pet loony are actually interesting, and more important than the dead maester.


Yeesh, that stuff was cringeworthy in the book. I know. I know. Oh, oh, oh.


You get the important part, she's a bad arse and has powers that maesters don't.

What is important is that she is gaining a dangerous amount of influence over Stannis, to the degree that those around him are scared. So scared, in fact, that the maester who basically raised Stannis and saw him as the son he never had was willing to lay down his life to stop her. But how do we know the deep connection between him and Stannis? Was there any clue of it on screen? We've seen Stannis the uncharismatic hardnosed legalist, but have we seen that there are also some who are utterly devoted to him? But hey, forget about human personalities and relationships and motivation, all that matters is that she's a bad arse... and freeing up more space for gratuitous boobs, of course.


My wife hasn't read the book but figured it out that the wizened only dude was probably some long serving devoted household retainer and adviser. So yeah, I'd say they demonstrated the point. Stannis a rigid hard ass who has attracted only a few devoted followers and one of them is Davos who tells the old maester that he was willing to give up his gods because he's a loyal man to the king. So I'd say they made that point too. Did you actually watch the episode?
 
2012-04-04 06:10:18 PM

Apos: Heh...Stunt casting aside,it would be a damn sight better than the tedious incarnation we're stuck with.


*snert*

Ain't that the truth?

Hopefully, the gang'll stumble across Walter White's house before too long.

(In the Walking Dead-verse, you can get to Arizona from Georgia with wormholes.)
 
2012-04-04 06:11:37 PM
While I can appreciate Mad Men for what it is, I really have no interest in the setting or any of the characters. GoT on the other hand I read all the available books and just watched season 1 last week and I enjoyed it. To each their own.
 
2012-04-04 06:26:35 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Bluemookie: Naturally.

It's amazing how much The Walking Dead is dragged down by Lori.

She has to be one of the most nonsensical characters on TV today. I mean, it's bold of the staff to allow her character to be written by brain-damaged jellyfish, but c'mon...


Catelyn Stark.
 
2012-04-04 06:29:50 PM

Doogled: Catelyn Stark.


I hate her so much. Pretty much all the shiat that goes down in Westeros can be traced to her seizing Tyrion due to her presumption of his guilt.
 
2012-04-04 06:35:25 PM

Son of Thunder: That would have been better. Especially since Little Miss Greyscale and her pet loony are actually interesting, and more important than the dead maester.


The daughter does absolutely nunthing in second book. The only other time she is even mentioned is in like book 4 and only because some of the wildings don't like her. She doesn't do anything but befriend a certain boy. And the only reason the boy is around is to show that the Onion Knight has a code of honor that he will not allow Stannis to cross! And the fool?? Does even less! HE'S WORTHLESS I KNOW I KNOW I KNOW!



Just because I have a group of people who actually read the book. I got a question: Did I completely miss the love affair between Loras Tyrell and Renly Baratheon? Is it in the book?
 
2012-04-04 06:37:42 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: vampishlypale: I have two of my own. Why should I care about ones on a screen?

ah-hum
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Holy crap. Is that:
img337.imageshack.us

this self-absorbed coont from yesterday:
i.dailymail.co.uk

/she is a self-described blogger, so having had a pic like that shot at some point is plausible
 
2012-04-04 06:39:34 PM

Carth: Evil Kirk vs Bad Ash: Neither of them are Breaking Bad so why does it matter?

Breaking Bad is what you watch while Mad Men is on break. The acting is great, the plots are absurd, and it doesn't require you to pay much attention.


This implies that Mad Men is the better show, when it is not.
 
2012-04-04 06:44:23 PM
I've yet to see one episode of GoT,but from what I can tell, there are enough incestuous couplings to put Jerry Springer's entire show run to shame. WTF is up with that?!
 
2012-04-04 06:47:10 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Just because I have a group of people who actually read the book. I got a question: Did I completely miss the love affair between Loras Tyrell and Renly Baratheon? Is it in the book?


I don't remember an actual relationship being implied, but I recall Loras was really upset about Renly's death.
 
2012-04-04 06:48:26 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Just because I have a group of people who actually read the book. I got a question: Did I completely miss the love affair between Loras Tyrell and Renly Baratheon? Is it in the book?


In the books you get dozens and dozens of subtle hints They're definitely lovers, you just aren't explicitly told (at least in the first three, I haven't read past that).
 
2012-04-04 06:49:43 PM
That's because the characters on Mad Men know where whores go.
 
2012-04-04 06:50:13 PM

Apos: I've yet to see one episode of GoT,but from what I can tell, there are enough incestuous couplings to put Jerry Springer's entire show run to shame. WTF is up with that?!


There's only one such active relationship (Cersi/Jamie). The Targaryens used to frequently intermarry incestuously, but that's in the past, and there's not enough of them left for that anymore.
 
2012-04-04 06:50:48 PM
Haven't watched madmen, though I can guess there is a massive lack of boobs. I've red the books for GoT (on 5 right now) and am enjoying the show. just finished the first season, looking forward to whats coming up
 
2012-04-04 06:53:57 PM

Jobbers: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Just because I have a group of people who actually read the book. I got a question: Did I completely miss the love affair between Loras Tyrell and Renly Baratheon? Is it in the book?

In the books you get dozens and dozens of subtle hints They're definitely lovers, you just aren't explicitly told (at least in the first three, I haven't read past that).


Now that I think about it more... yeah, there's no doubt. And it occurs to me that Brienne of Tarth should be showing up very soon.
 
2012-04-04 06:56:33 PM

tricycleracer: "Dragons are fantasy. If there's magical talismans or a magic sword or wizards or farking crazy not-real animals.... all these basic things that break laws of reality: that shiat's all fantasy. I'm into hard sci-fi. Fantasy is bullshiat."


Laughter LOL. I f*cking love that scene.
 
2012-04-04 07:17:21 PM

Unoriginal_Username: Haven't watched madmen, though I can guess there is a massive lack of boobs.


FTFY. You obviously don't come here often.

unrealitymag.com
 
2012-04-04 07:19:31 PM
^^That chick would be hot if she got back down to her Firefly weight.

Right not she is about 4 or 5 weight classes above that.
 
2012-04-04 07:26:17 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: vampishlypale: I may have to give Game of Thrones another shot, but watching the first few episodes left me with a general feeling of meh at best. I understand that it's taking from the books, but having around half each episode consisting of sex scenes just felt like a blatant ploy by the makers to draw in as many viewers as possible. In other words, shock for the sake of shock, or in this case boobs for the sake of boobs. It's pandering in the worst form, and I have a hard time taking any program seriously that uses it as its base.

You could still easily accomplish the portrayal of all the sex scenes by trimming them down to be what they should be: plot devices that help illustrate a society or individuals. It's my opinion that it should never be the prime focus unless you are going for erotica, because when you do, it just comes across as show makers that can't figure out anything better to do than jiggle a few breasts around on the screen for a while. Hell, it's what drove me away from Stargate Universe until they finally cut that shiat out, but by then, the damage was done.

So Farkers, does it actually start getting better in having episodes predominately focused on story line, or do the first few episodes pretty well sum up what else to expect?



Well truth be told if you take out the descriptions of the food and outfits from the books they go from a thousand pages to around 200. Cut out the descriptions of wounds from war scenes and you're down to about 50. You need some filler. And talk about some tasty filler:

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I don't care who you are, that's hot


That's a significant over-statement.
 
2012-04-04 07:26:56 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Just because I have a group of people who actually read the book. I got a question: Did I completely miss the love affair between Loras Tyrell and Renly Baratheon? Is it in the book?


Yes you did, and yes it is.
 
2012-04-04 07:33:15 PM

Fish in a Barrel: I don't remember an actual relationship being implied, but I recall Loras was really upset about Renly's death.


So was everyone. Dude had charisma like no bodies business. That was his key to the throne! The Maid, Loras and his wife were all messed up.

Looking forward to Renly's wife in the show tho. Hot and crazy power hungry?! yes now! Looks like she is going to get more screen time than the part gets in the second book. I really think that's what peaks my interests more then the women of Mad Men. These women have great bodies too, but they have fire! Drive! Something going on other than "Oh I hope so-and-so thinks I'm pretty"

Jobbers: In the books you get dozens and dozens of subtle hints They're definitely lovers, you just aren't explicitly told (at least in the first three, I haven't read past that).


Well if you read the first three closely you know that their aint gonna be no relationship in the 4th! There are certain factors that highly limit that from happening. Like Renly being dead! Don't yell at me for spoilers! It's already been said in this thread.

I saw in the first season they were together but that was before I read the books and really understood who they were.


Yes he kills them off almost as fast as he brings them in! I swear I just want to get a hold of the author and say "My dear man, don't take it too hard. Your work is ingenious. It's quality work. And there are simply too many names, that's all. Just cut a few and it will be perfect."
 
2012-04-04 07:34:26 PM

Persnickety: Unoriginal_Username: Haven't watched madmen, though I can guess there is a massive lack of boobs.

FTFY. You obviously don't come here often.

[unrealitymag.com image 594x458]


huh, i just noticed her lazy eye.

hell i just noticed she has eyes.
 
2012-04-04 07:36:36 PM
Mad Men actually happened.
 
2012-04-04 07:48:20 PM

MeinRS6: I would add that Alex Moaba would be perfect for playing a woman on MadMen, if GoT is too complicated for him to follow.


Really: "Game of Thrones" is ambitious in its scale, and with its gigantic web of characters and clans -- Lannisters, Starks, Baratheons, Night Watchmen, dragon-people -- I feel like I need a weekly infographic to follow along.

Too bad the old SNL skit, "Short Attention Span Theatre" isn't still around. It'd be the perfect show for him.
 
2012-04-04 07:56:21 PM

The Banana Thug: Carth: Evil Kirk vs Bad Ash: Neither of them are Breaking Bad so why does it matter?

Breaking Bad is what you watch while Mad Men is on break. The acting is great, the plots are absurd, and it doesn't require you to pay much attention.

This implies that Mad Men is the better show, when it is not.


"Better" is so subjective. Lets just agree that Mad Men is more critically acclaimed, more watched, and gets more headlines.
 
2012-04-04 08:05:58 PM

nopokerface: Wayne 985: Never seen either show.

Thanks for stopping by.


I do my part.
 
2012-04-04 08:09:42 PM
As someone who DOES own a TV, and a very fine set at that, though who has never seen a single second of either show, i prefer Mad Men, if those are my 2 choices.
 
2012-04-04 08:11:06 PM

vampishlypale: but having around half each episode consisting of sex scenes just felt like a blatant ploy by the makers to draw in as many viewers as possible.


There are MANY sex scenes in the book... most of them far more graphic then you see in the TV show. They do taper off though as the books progress, though Season 2 being based on book 2 should still have quite a bit.

My wife and i are getting through the shows because ive recently read all the books (within the last year) and am basically just talking constantly explaining to her who everyone is and how they relate to everyone else. I'm not sure how people who haven't read the books have any idea what's going on.

I'm disappointed that the wolves are playing a far lesser role in the show than they did in the books as well.
 
2012-04-04 08:12:35 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Don't blame me.

I came here to say how Breaking Bad whoops the utter and complete stuffin' out of both of them.


True. But surely we all have to agree that every one of these modern television shows are pitiful compared to the life-affirming experience that was Mr. Belvedere.
 
2012-04-04 08:14:30 PM

Ecliptic:
I'm disappointed that the wolves are playing a far lesser role in the show than they did in the books as well.


I don't think they've got the effects down quite yet on the direwolves. Season 1 they could get away with normal size dogs, but now they're big enough to require effects. The scene from the first episode of this season with Robb's direwolf looked just a notch above Sci-Fi Channel monster effects.
 
2012-04-04 08:16:18 PM
What does he put quotations around all the show titles?
 
2012-04-04 08:19:49 PM

Ecliptic: I'm not sure how people who haven't read the books have any idea what's going on.


Maybe we're smarter than your wife? I keed, I keed.
 
2012-04-04 08:29:57 PM
Uh, Mad Men is way better than Game of Thrones. Interesting that lots of people posting here disagree.

Mad Men, Breaking Bad, Homeland, and Boss are all definitely better. HBO's dramas have been kind of mediocre as of late, but The Newsroom will likely change all that.
 
2012-04-04 08:31:28 PM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: True. But surely we all have to agree that every one of these modern television shows are pitiful compared to the life-affirming experience that was Mr. Belvedere.


Very true, thanks to the gift that is Bob Uecker.

Or It's a Living, for that matter.

Kinda goes without saying at this point.
 
2012-04-04 08:32:37 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener:

Hopefully, the gang'll stumble across Walter White's house before too long.

(In the Walking Dead-verse, you can get to Arizona from Georgia with wormholes.)




Zombies vs. a sack full of fulmunate (sp?) of mercury chips. discuss.
 
2012-04-04 08:34:18 PM

elvisaintdead: Zombies vs. a sack full of fulmunate (sp?) of mercury chips. discuss.


Zombies vs. Danny Trejo's head on a tortoise?

No contest.
 
2012-04-04 08:35:28 PM

NeoCortex42: Ecliptic:
I'm disappointed that the wolves are playing a far lesser role in the show than they did in the books as well.

I don't think they've got the effects down quite yet on the direwolves. Season 1 they could get away with normal size dogs, but now they're big enough to require effects. The scene from the first episode of this season with Robb's direwolf looked just a notch above Sci-Fi Channel monster effects.


Ghost in episode two (on your favourite torrent site right now) looked a lot better.
 
2012-04-04 08:39:03 PM

Son of Thunder: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Well truth be told if you take out the descriptions of the food and outfits from the books they go from a thousand pages to around 200. Cut out the descriptions of wounds from war scenes and you're down to about 50. You need some filler.

Given the amount that HBO has cut or skimmed over, I'd say no. They need less filler and more character development. "Hi. I'm an old guy and I don't like the red priestess and I'm dead now."


that was pretty much his role in the book too. He was a redshirt. The guy who gets killed 5 minutes into the episode to prove how badass the villian is.
 
2012-04-04 08:42:44 PM

Fish in a Barrel: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Just because I have a group of people who actually read the book. I got a question: Did I completely miss the love affair between Loras Tyrell and Renly Baratheon? Is it in the book?

I don't remember an actual relationship being implied, but I recall Loras was really upset about Renly's death.


you never actually catch them farking but it is shown about as clearly as the relationship of the prince in Braveheart and his young male companion.
 
2012-04-04 08:44:32 PM
Bah. it's Episode 2 where the win starts to happen... you guys think you're confused now? Wait for House Greyjoy to show up!

/and you'll just outright give up when House Martell makes their entrance
 
2012-04-04 08:52:41 PM

wippit: Bah. it's Episode 2 where the win starts to happen... you guys think you're confused now? Wait for House Greyjoy to show up!

/and you'll just outright give up when House Martell makes their entrance


I really hope the show runners just skip the entire Martell story line. That went absolutely nowhere.
 
2012-04-04 08:56:31 PM

Digitalstrange: Son of Thunder: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Well truth be told if you take out the descriptions of the food and outfits from the books they go from a thousand pages to around 200. Cut out the descriptions of wounds from war scenes and you're down to about 50. You need some filler.

Given the amount that HBO has cut or skimmed over, I'd say no. They need less filler and more character development. "Hi. I'm an old guy and I don't like the red priestess and I'm dead now."

that was pretty much his role in the book too. He was a redshirt. The guy who gets killed 5 minutes into the episode to prove how badass the villian is.


True that.

There are a dozen other characters that have been developed far better than Maester Cressen for a reason. Do you really want to watch a hundred year old man with a bad hip toil up and down the stairs of Dragonstone for any amount of time?

The old guy died. Move on.
 
2012-04-04 09:01:45 PM

carnifex2005: wippit: Bah. it's Episode 2 where the win starts to happen... you guys think you're confused now? Wait for House Greyjoy to show up!

/and you'll just outright give up when House Martell makes their entrance

I really hope the show runners just skip the entire Martell story line. That went absolutely nowhere.


they can't skip it entirely, Margaery and the Red Viper are important to the story
 
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